[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Alex, let's be real, if Amanda Knox wasn't American you'd be agreeing with Livia in this topic.

If Amanda Knox wasn't American i would not be paying attention to this case at all, so you are wrong. And if Meredith wasn't british you and Livia wouldn't be talking about it either.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If Amanda Knox wasn't American i would not be paying attention to this case at all, so you are wrong. And if Meredith wasn't british you and Livia wouldn't be talking about it either.

Hmmm... I think I would, you know. A killer is a killer is a killer.

[MTVN]

Guilty as sin

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

They already found the killer. his name is Rudy Guede and he's already in jail. But that wasn't enough for the Kertchers. they wanted more flesh they wanted to hurt innocent people in their rage.

I doubt that very much. I have no doubt all they want is justice for their child

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I doubt that very much. I have no doubt all they want is justice for their child

obviously they don't, because justice has already been served by him being in jail.

There is no doubt about his guilt. or do you believe that Amanda and rafealle framed him? LOL maybe you have some other conspiracy theories i'm not aware of.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

obviously they don't, because justice has already been served by him being in jail.

There is no doubt about his guilt. or do you believe that Amanda and rafealle framed him? LOL maybe you have some other conspiracy theories i'm not aware of.

No. Justice has only been PARTLY served whilst ever Knox and her 'one-time' boyfriend remain looked upon as 'innocent'.

Rudy Guede is only one of THREE people complicit in the terrible things that happened to poor Meredith that night which culminated in her murder, and Knox and 'Rafaealle' have gotten away with murder.

If it was my little girl, I would not rest until both these murderers received their just desserts.

But what really sticks in my craw, is how 'American Money' has paid for a huge white-washing campaign - utilising websites and manipulating Social Media - successfully turning an abhorrent murderess into a victim and denigrating and defaming the genuine victim into the bargain.

Fecking disgusting.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No. Justice has only been PARTLY served whilst ever Knox and her 'one-time' boyfriend remain looked upon as 'innocent'.

Rudy Guede is only one of THREE people complicit in the terrible things that happened to poor Meredith that night which culminated in her murder, and Knox and 'Rafaealle' have gotten away with murder.

If it was my little girl, I would not rest until both these murderers received their just desserts.

But what really sticks in my craw, is how 'American Money' has paid for a huge white-washing campaign - utilising websites and manipulating Social Media - successfully turning an abhorrent murderess into a victim and denigrating and defaming the genuine victim into the bargain.

Fecking disgusting.

you are wrong. and it's evil for you to want 2 other young people to suffer an even worse fate than meredith suffered.

Meredith suffered for no more than an hour. Amanda knox and rafaelle suffered for 4 years.

Meredith was lucky comparably.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

obviously they don't, because justice has already been served by him being in jail.

There is no doubt about his guilt. or do you believe that Amanda and rafealle framed him? LOL maybe you have some other conspiracy theories i'm not aware of.

I have no theories on this case, I just think it's a ****ty thing to do to try and make the victims family out to be the bad guys

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you are wrong. and it's evil for you to want 2 other young people to suffer an even worse fate than meredith suffered.

Meredith suffered for no more than an hour. Amanda knox and rafaelle suffered for 4 years.

Meredith was lucky comparably.

Yes, being dead is so much better than being free and at home with your family.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you are wrong. and it's evil for you to want 2 other young people to suffer an even worse fate than meredith suffered.

Meredith suffered for no more than an hour. Amanda knox and rafaelle suffered for 4 years.

Meredith was lucky comparably.

That's a truly disgusting post

[kirklancaster]

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, being dead is so much better than being free and at home with your family.

From what i've seen of Meredith's family, i think she made a lucky escape. They are truly vile, trashy people.

I can't express enough how disgusted i am with the Kertchers.

the fact that the Knox's haven't attacked them in the press, is truly a testament to their class and respectability. There has been no retaliation from the Knox family at all against the Kertchers despite all of the horrible ignorant evil things they have thrown against their daughter.. I'm amazed at their restraint.

[MTVN]

Have you ever considered a role in bereavement counselling Alex

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Have you ever considered a role in bereavement counselling Alex

Maybe if the Kertchers had had some proper bereavement counseling they wouldn't be such *****. and they wouldn't be trying to destroy the lives of innocent people. instead they would be able to accept the truth about their daughters death.

She was raped and murdered by an african migrant who has a history of knife crime, and there is no sinister plot, it's just that simple. he ****ed her, stabbed her, and ran away.

Instead they need an elaborate plot about her jealous roommate who was a satanic witch. it's just stupid.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

If Amanda Knox wasn't American i would not be paying attention to this case at all, so you are wrong. And if Meredith wasn't british you and Livia wouldn't be talking about it either.

Not at all, I comment on American issues more than I do on English issues so that's a pretty dumb point to make.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Not at all, I comment on American issues more than I do on English issues so that's a pretty dumb point to make.

i don't think it's a dumb point at all. because the british press played a huge role in this whole tragedy. the same way they falsely accused the McCanns. I don't think you understand how influenced you are by your very toxic tabloid press culture in the UK.

[Iceman]

Wow just when you think you've read it all.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't think it's a dumb point at all. because the british press played a huge role in this whole tragedy. the same way they falsely accused the McCanns. I don't think you understand how influenced you are by your very toxic tabloid press culture in the UK.

You live in a dream world Alex and you've foolishly let your overwrought sense of patriotism blind you to reality. You don't know your elbow from your arse at this point and by those posts about the victim's family I'm assuming you are talking out of the latter.

Everything you post on this forum is influenced by your toxic brand of patriotism. You'd rationalise anything as long as an American is the one at fault. I've not taken a stance on this topic over than 'Italy ****ed up' because there's compelling evidence on both sides. I can view things objectively, you can only see things through the stars and stripes.

[Toy Soldier]

Like I said on the good ol' Cecil thread, I don't know if Knox was involved or not, she might be or might not be, what I do know is that there appears to be absolutely nothing in the way of hard evidence against either of them, most of it is circumstantial or has nothing to specifically link it to them... e.g. the window was smashed from the inside - OK, fine... how can you possibly them jump to the conclusion that they smashed it, and not the other guy who was unquestionably guilty, in a bungled attempt to cover his tracks?

But anyway, yeah, I'm not one of those who is entirely convinced that this is a tragedy and they were wrongly convicted, I'm just saying, guilty or not the case and the conviction was highly suspect because all of the evidence is conjecture, assumption, and basically flimsy as **** .


That said... Alex... maybe a tiiiny bit over the top with the personal attacks on the family of the victim. Either way, their daughter is still dead, and whether they're "trashy" or not, that is something no one should ever have to go through.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You live in a dream world Alex and you've foolishly let your overwrought sense of patriotism blind you to reality. You don't know your elbow from your arse at this point and by those posts about the victim's family I'm assuming you are talking out of the latter.

Everything you post on this forum is influenced by your toxic brand of patriotism. You'd rationalise anything as long as an American is the one at fault. I've not taken a stance on this topic over than 'Italy ****ed up' because there's compelling evidence on both sides. I can view things objectively, you can only see things through the stars and stripes.

everything you just said about me, is actually true about you.

I don't know how much more clearly i can tell you. but literally, you just made my entire point about your opinion on this case, but you made it about me instead of realizing that it's actually true about you.

i guess i just have to throw my hands up.

thank gawd Italy has a high court full of very smart people. I applaud Italy's high court for finally telling the truth, and admitting the horrible mistakes of their lower courts.

now hopefully Itally will do something about the smaller courts to avoid this tragedy ever happening to any other Innocent people like Amanda Knox.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

everything you just said about me, is actually true about you.

I don't know how much more clearly i can tell you. but literally, you just made my entire point about your opinion on this case, but you made it about me instead of realizing that it's actually true about you.

i guess i just have to throw my hands up.

thank gawd Italy has a high court full of very smart people. I applaud Italy's high court for finally telling the truth, and admitting the horrible mistakes of their lower courts.

now hopefully Itally will do something about the smaller courts to avoid this tragedy ever happening to any other Innocent people like Amanda Knox.

You are completely and utterly deluded. So much so that you forget that I was against a retrial for Knox in the original thread.

Everything you accuse me of is only true of yourself. I'm capable of critiquing the UK, the media (Good god, I've made so many posts about the media) and it's people. I'm not blinded by patriotism like you are. I see things objectively and that's something you'll never be able to do because you are deluded to a point that you are blaming the victim's family.

Look at yourself.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You are completely and utterly deluded. So much so that you forget that I was against a retrial for Knox in the original thread.

Everything you accuse me of is only true of yourself. I'm capable of critiquing the UK, the media (Good god, I've made so many posts about the media) and it's people. I'm not blinded by patriotism like you are. I see things objectively and that's something you'll never be able to do because you are deluded to a point that you are blaming the victim's family.

Look at yourself.

ugh, the irony is dumbfounding.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by lostalex

ugh, the irony is dumbfounding.

Yes it is but not for the reasons you think.

I'm going to encourage everyone to follow my lead and put Alex on ignore. He has nothing to add but 'MURICA' to every topic he posts in and he's a complete and utter troll.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm sure all any parent would want in that situation would be to find the actual killer.

The way you're speaking about a family who lost their child in such a terrible way is actually sickening Alex, you should be ashamed of yourself

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I have no words for some of the posts Alex has made,truly disgusting,I don't interact with him much, I now know why.