[Braden]

Originally Posted by Livia

Wow... there are some really hazy Jewish/Christian mix-ups on this thread...

If this in reference to what I have said, feel free to say what is wrong.

As I've said I'm not entirely religious so my knowledge isn't well-informed.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I used to date a crab as it goes, thing was when she wasnt giving it all that she actually just cared about herself and her mum (she had no dad)

Fact of the matter was she was a shellfish bastard

[Kizzy]

They are all a weird mish mash of each other and bits from here and there, each one believing they are right and all others wrong.

'The call of time is to send thoughts of peace and power to the world. Your thoughts travel, moving at a great speed and with considerable impact. Let the thought of peace sit in your mind,knowing that the vibes from your thoughts can radiate out and touch any person, any place.'

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Braden

If this in reference to what I have said, feel free to say what is wrong.

As I've said I'm not entirely religious so my knowledge isn't well-informed.

I think it's just that Judaism is over 5000 years old, Christianity 2000 and Islam much younger, 1300 years, something like that. People get confused between the old and new testament and it's further compounded by Jesus being Jewish and that he's recognised in Judaism and Islam as a prophet, but not as the son of God.

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into it here because it's kind of annoying the way people who don't believe the same as you pour scorn on it as exampled in Kizzy's post. Personally, I uphold the right of everyone to believe what they want without having to defend it.

Anyhoo, thanks Braden.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I used to date a crab as it goes, thing was when she wasnt giving it all that she actually just cared about herself and her mum (she had no dad)

Fact of the matter was she was a shellfish bastard

Haha.. I thought, where's he going with this.....?

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's just that Judaism is over 5000 years old, Christianity 2000 and Islam much younger, 1300 years, something like that. People get confused between the old and new testament and it's further compounded by Jesus being Jewish and that he's recognised in Judaism and Islam as a prophet, but not as the son of God.

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into it here because it's kind of annoying the way people who don't believe the same as you pour scorn on it as exampled in Kizzy's post. Personally, I uphold the right of everyone to believe what they want without having to defend it.

Anyhoo, thanks Braden.

Okay, I understand. I think primarily for me, as a gay man, people that hold such hypocrisies in regard to religion are quite frustrating. Religion (for me anyway), is such a complex and intricate subject that nowadays when people say 'I don't think gay people should get a married in a church", they're saying it not because homosexuality is (made out to be) prohibited in any religious text, but because society (even outside of religion) has raised it as taboo within culture- It's okay to get away with it because there was a time where we weren't accepted, kind of thing. Though, religion is used as a way to justify their opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's just that Judaism is over 5000 years old, Christianity 2000 and Islam much younger, 1300 years, something like that. People get confused between the old and new testament and it's further compounded by Jesus being Jewish and that he's recognised in Judaism and Islam as a prophet, but not as the son of God.

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into it here because it's kind of annoying the way people who don't believe the same as you pour scorn on it as exampled in Kizzy's post. Personally, I uphold the right of everyone to believe what they want without having to defend it.

Anyhoo, thanks Braden.

In with anger, out with love.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

A pigs a filthy animal... I don't eat filthy animals.

Can't remember what film that's from

Jules say's it in Pulp Fiction.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Jules say's it in Pulp Fiction.

I know, very overrated film that.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I know, very overrated film that.

Oh, you knew. I thought you was asking seriously, and I thought why is she asking a simple question? but I answered anyway, to try and make myself look like a film buff.

And it's a very good film, I'll have you know.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Unclean animals, innit. There are quite a lot of things I'm not supposed to eat including shellfish... which I hate anyway.

My husband for some reason says quite often that pigs are the cleanest animals, more clean than cats etc. Not sure if its true or not but he seems to think it is

[Vicky.]

I actually think its pretty much certain that Jesus was a Jew. so how does this mean a brand new religion? Would it not make more sense for his followers to be Jewish?

However, despite going to Sunday schools (until I asked about dinosaurs and was banned ) and being Christened I do not know much about any religion at all tbh

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I actually think its pretty much certain that Jesus was a Jew. so how does this mean a brand new religion? Would it not make more sense for his followers to be Jewish?

However, despite going to Sunday schools (until I asked about dinosaurs and was banned ) and being Christened I do not know much about any religion at all tbh

[thesheriff443]

We share 96 per cent dna with apes, religion was created by humans, believe what you like, I deal in facts not fiction.
We legally kill unborn babies conceived out of sexual pleasure and yet we let child killers live.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I think it's just that Judaism is over 5000 years old, Christianity 2000 and Islam much younger, 1300 years, something like that. People get confused between the old and new testament and it's further compounded by Jesus being Jewish and that he's recognised in Judaism and Islam as a prophet, but not as the son of God.

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into it here because it's kind of annoying the way people who don't believe the same as you pour scorn on it as exampled in Kizzy's post. Personally, I uphold the right of everyone to believe what they want without having to defend it.

Anyhoo, thanks Braden.

Is Judaism the oldest religion?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Is Judaism the oldest religion?

You need to watch 'The Ten Commandments' with Charlton Heston.

Brilliant film, 4 hours long.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Braden

If they're going to have this rule for gay/lesbian individuals, they need to apply it to other people such as those with tattoos, meat-eaters, literal non-religious folk etc. All those who are subject to defying the bible.

The gay community are just continuously being used as scapegoats by some people.

No they say its simple
there God says only a Man and Woman can marry
Africa also has that rule.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Alf

You need to watch 'The Ten Commandments' with Charlton Heston.

Brilliant film, 4 hours long.

Yes Alf
on 1080P BluRay
with 8.1 DTSHD sound

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

You need to watch 'The Ten Commandments' with Charlton Heston.

Brilliant film, 4 hours long.

4 hours? ugh that's a long time to watch a film about religion

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

4 hours? ugh that's a long time to watch a film about religion

That's OK
on BluRay you can stop it
have a nap
then go back to the place you left the film
all in 1080P

[Braden]

Originally Posted by arista

No they say its simple
there God says only a Man and Woman can marry
Africa also has that rule.

But my point is that there are so many other complications within religious texts. That's just one thing of an abundance of other statements, and I personally believe (although people have every right to have their opinion) that people use it as a way of justifying hate towards the gay community.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by arista

That's OK
on BluRay you can stop it
have a nap
then go back to the place you left the film
all in 1080P

There you go Niamh, problem solved.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

There you go Niamh, problem solved.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why would you want to get married

Why not?

[Kizzy]

'The Pharisees would not live up to what they taught. They were so overly concerned with the externals that they neglected the "weightier matters of the law" and the simple truths about man and God. When their own Messiah had appeared in Israel they were so blinded by their observances and the minute details that they completely missed Him.'

What a guy!
http://www.bible-history.com/pharise..._Pharisees.htm