[Mullens123]

She's not lying though. Generally in society the view has been adopted that black people, particularly black women are aggressive without it ever really being backed up with proof. Granted Hannah and Deborah could display anger like any other individual, but the fact is they'll be demonised a lot of the time before they've even had their first argument. If you look at comments on YouTube or Facebook from the first week there were people calling them hoodrats, ghetto and even one saying "loud angry and wig wearing"... and this was at a point where the vast majority were saying they'd not even made the highlights shows. The same thing happened to Toya, Adjoa and Natalie. Undoubtedly both Natalie and Toya had big fights and blow ups, but considering their fights were against equally 'aggressive' people like Hughie and Ash, who received cheers and positive receptions off the audience shows the inequality and existing racism within modern british society. People can deny it but it's just illuminated by someone like Adjoa being a first evictee and getting such an awful response whilst male housemates who threatened women manage to make it far and receive praise. I mean I even find myself in situations where a conflict arises and I'll speak up and suddenly told I have "the attitude" as if every black person universally holds some awful aggressive side... Kieran could walk up and shove Deborah, but lord knows if she shoves him back people would be baying for her 'aggressive' race card playing blood.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mullens123

She's not lying though. Generally in society the view has been adopted that black people, particularly black women are aggressive without it ever really being backed up with proof. Granted Hannah and Deborah could display anger like any other individual, but the fact is they'll be demonised a lot of the time before they've even had their first argument. If you look at comments on YouTube or Facebook from the first week there were people calling them hoodrats, ghetto and even one saying "loud angry and wig wearing"... and this was at a point where the vast majority were saying they'd not even made the highlights shows. The same thing happened to Toya, Adjoa and Natalie. Undoubtedly both Natalie and Toya had big fights and blow ups, but considering their fights were against equally 'aggressive' people like Hughie and Ash, who received cheers and positive receptions off the audience shows the inequality and existing racism within modern british society. People can deny it but it's just illuminated by someone like Adjoa being a first evictee and getting such an awful response whilst male housemates who threatened women manage to make it far and receive praise. I mean I even find myself in situations where a conflict arises and I'll speak up and suddenly told I have "the attitude" as if every black person universally holds some awful aggressive side... Kieran could walk up and shove Deborah, but lord knows if she shoves him back people would be baying for her 'aggressive' race card playing blood.

Great post, spot on

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Still bitter that Christian didn;t get through tbh. He was my fave by a bloody mile/ I remember when Sara was put through and I was like..wtf shes rubbish compared to others who were turned down. I believe it was the first live show that she changed my mind But I was like that with Diana Vickers too...thought she was a bad pick at judges houses then the first live show she was amazing...

Christian was easily the best singer especially in the male category which was surprisingly weak (though freddy is my fave) and I have know idea how honey g and bratavio got through and he didn't!!!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Mullens123

She's not lying though. Generally in society the view has been adopted that black people, particularly black women are aggressive without it ever really being backed up with proof. Granted Hannah and Deborah could display anger like any other individual, but the fact is they'll be demonised a lot of the time before they've even had their first argument. If you look at comments on YouTube or Facebook from the first week there were people calling them hoodrats, ghetto and even one saying "loud angry and wig wearing"... and this was at a point where the vast majority were saying they'd not even made the highlights shows. The same thing happened to Toya, Adjoa and Natalie. Undoubtedly both Natalie and Toya had big fights and blow ups, but considering their fights were against equally 'aggressive' people like Hughie and Ash, who received cheers and positive receptions off the audience shows the inequality and existing racism within modern british society. People can deny it but it's just illuminated by someone like Adjoa being a first evictee and getting such an awful response whilst male housemates who threatened women manage to make it far and receive praise. I mean I even find myself in situations where a conflict arises and I'll speak up and suddenly told I have "the attitude" as if every black person universally holds some awful aggressive side... Kieran could walk up and shove Deborah, but lord knows if she shoves him back people would be baying for her 'aggressive' race card playing blood.

I think its more sexism than racism tbh. Men get away with stuff far more than women do on BB.

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Mullens123

She's not lying though. Generally in society the view has been adopted that black people, particularly black women are aggressive without it ever really being backed up with proof. Granted Hannah and Deborah could display anger like any other individual, but the fact is they'll be demonised a lot of the time before they've even had their first argument. If you look at comments on YouTube or Facebook from the first week there were people calling them hoodrats, ghetto and even one saying "loud angry and wig wearing"... and this was at a point where the vast majority were saying they'd not even made the highlights shows. The same thing happened to Toya, Adjoa and Natalie. Undoubtedly both Natalie and Toya had big fights and blow ups, but considering their fights were against equally 'aggressive' people like Hughie and Ash, who received cheers and positive receptions off the audience shows the inequality and existing racism within modern british society. People can deny it but it's just illuminated by someone like Adjoa being a first evictee and getting such an awful response whilst male housemates who threatened women manage to make it far and receive praise. I mean I even find myself in situations where a conflict arises and I'll speak up and suddenly told I have "the attitude" as if every black person universally holds some awful aggressive side... Kieran could walk up and shove Deborah, but lord knows if she shoves him back people would be baying for her 'aggressive' race card playing blood.

exactly well done!!!!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I think its more sexism than racism tbh. Men get away with stuff far more than women do on BB.

White women do get away with being labelled aggressive as much or as quickly as black women though tbf

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

White women do get away with being labelled aggressive as much or as quickly as black women though tbf

Well yes, BUT, BB have a habit of only casting stereotypical black women. Ones who do actually fit the aggressive angry person slot. **** knows why they do this. Adjoa didn't seem to fit the mould tbf, but I couldn't warm to her because of her constant pussy talks and that (and I wouldn't warm to a guy who spoke that way either)

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

White women do get away with being labelled aggressive as much or as quickly as black women though tbf

tell that to Scottish women

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

tell that to Scottish women

[caprimint]

This girl is ridiculous

[Vicky.]

Fairly certain I would be labelled aggressive if I was on the show. even when just speaking I tend to be very loud and I am horrendous when in full blown argument mode. And I swear a lot in general too. And would have no issue using the dreaded 'c word' towards someone as I use it often :S

I would be hated within minutes I reckon

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Fairly certain I would be labelled aggressive if I was on the show. even when just speaking I tend to be very loud and I am horrendous when in full blown argument mode. And I swear a lot in general too. And would have no issue using the dreaded 'c word' towards someone as I use it often :S

I would be hated within minutes I reckon

you would be draped all over Lotan in a sickening showmance

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you would be draped all over Lotan in a sickening showmance

Ew no thanks. I don't tend to like 'pretty boys'

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Samm

this thread is going to have 10 pages by midday tomorrow

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Samm

Sam is a name associated with oracles

[iRyan]

Some black people grew up in segments of society that interact differently, what is deemed "aggressive" by white people may not be deemed as such in their own community. I don't blame a black woman for refusing to be walked over or disregarded by a white man or woman.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by iRyan

Some black people grew up in segments of society that interact differently, what is deemed "aggressive" by white people may not be deemed as such in their own community. I don't blame a black woman for refusing to be walked over or disregarded by a white man or woman.

Some black people grew up in segments of society that interact differently


say what?

[Captain.Remy]

Has she watched Helen Wood in BB15?
She was mad extra and aggressive, and wasn't black (unless I missed something?)

She is full of sh!t, she knows she is dry and boring so she creates drama and tries to make herself relevant. I used to like the sisters but now they are abusing.

YES honey, you were hella extra and mad for no reason.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you would be draped all over Lotan in a sickening showmance

Are people on here still pretending that Lotan is straight?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Tozzie

anyone aggressive black or white gets voted off, no one likes aggressive people no matter what colour they are

Just seen this, skimmed the thread before. Bloody Helen won the show and was possibly the most aggressive housemate we have ever had :/

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just seen this, skimmed the thread before. Bloody Helen won the show and was possibly the most aggressive housemate we have ever had :/

Helen was just misunderstood ..... ask Brian

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Has she watched Helen Wood in BB15?
She was mad extra and aggressive, and wasn't black (unless I missed something?)

She is full of sh!t, she knows she is dry and boring so she creates drama and tries to make herself relevant. I used to like the sisters but now they are abusing.

YES honey, you were hella extra and mad for no reason.

So? the point was that it takes a lot more for white women to be labelled as aggressive than it does a black woman and Helen was a raving monster

[number37]

If " 10 million people telling me I am aggressive" are telling you that ( which I somehow doubt unless you have 10 million friends on Facebook) & while having an argument you are shouting & being aggressive then you probably are coming across as a tad aggressive ? No ? FFS !! Zero to do with skin tone..... it`s being aggressive me thinks she played the race card too early , could have saved it for later in the game.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So? the point was that it takes a lot more for white women to be labelled as aggressive than it does a black woman and Helen was a raving monster

Didn't Helen have immunity, that kind of helps you keep in the house.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by starry

Didn't Helen have immunity, that kind of helps you keep in the house.

Yeah she would have been out week 1 otherwise, shame