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Old 21-01-2018, 03:30 PM   #1
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So we all know the combination of Nikki returning in BB7, the CBB5 race row and the abysmal production of BB8 are what led to the decline of the Channel 4 show, and arguably, the franchise as a whole, as the show hasn't been the same since then, has it?

But over the past year or so, interest and ratings seem to have sunk even lower. BB just about scraping a million viewers (sometimes even less) and CBB averaging almost half of what it was a few years back. Compare that to the earlier C5 series, where civilian BB could comfortably average 1.6m+ (almost 2m in BB14's case) and the renaissance of CBB, which saw an increase in tabloid coverage, as well as ratings above 3m for CBB13/15.

Granted, C5's performance doesn't hold a candle to C4, they were doing somewhat well a few years back. Now it's not even their highest rated show anymore.

What went wrong?

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It's just a bit rubbish
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I was actually thinking of making this thread on the plane home last night so you beat me to it

depends really, CBB5 and Bear winning destroyed the ratings

but C5 did most of the killing?
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Overkilled it with too many series
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Sheer quantity of series, ****ty production tasks and questionable casting. Ppl like bear winning. BRING BACK LIVE FEED
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We all know that the three things that 'killed' C4 BB were the combination of Nikki being able to return and be eligible to win, the CBB5 racism row and then the BB8 all female launch which was mostly filled with 'fame hungry wannabees.' This resulted in the ratings decline over the last 3 years on C4 BB and resulted in C4 axing it.

After that, you could argue that BB had already been 'killed' - but for arguments sake BB14, CBB14, CBB15 did really well in the ratings after a worrying few years and then BB17 also improved in the ratings, providing evidence the show was building itself back up after Timebomb so C5 BB was doing 'okay' by it's low standards.

Then Bear comes along, behaves despicably, bullies majority of his fellow housemates and then wins the series. People decide to switch off. Intense rumours follow for an 'All Stars' series of CBB with big former names rumoured including Katie Price, Perez Hilton and Katie Hopkins (the trio were a fixture in C5's most popular series CBB15). The 'All Stars' line up for said CBB series instead includes names such as Jasmine Waltz and Coleen Nolan. People decide to switch off this series and not watch due to the disappointing line up. THEN the next civilian run of the show BB18 features a large number of 'civilians' who are actually not civilians. Many have featured on other television shows and have large social media followings and would be able to qualify for the celebrity version of the show. Many people decide to switch off - hence the low ratings.

SO IN SHORT - the 3 things that 'killed' C5 BB were Bear winning CBB18, CBB19 having a disappointing 'All Star' line up and then BB18 being filled with people who could have qualified for the celebrity show which already has 2 runs a year.
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These were my thoughts when I made a thread in the summer!

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru....php?p=9445019
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We all know that the three things that 'killed' C4 BB were the combination of Nikki being able to return and be eligible to win, the CBB5 racism row and then the BB8 all female launch which was mostly filled with 'fame hungry wannabees.' This resulted in the ratings decline over the last 3 years on C4 BB and resulted in C4 axing it.

After that, you could argue that BB had already been 'killed' - but for arguments sake BB14, CBB14, CBB15 did really well in the ratings after a worrying few years and then BB17 also improved in the ratings, providing evidence the show was building itself back up after Timebomb so C5 BB was doing 'okay' by it's low standards.

Then Bear comes along, behaves despicably, bullies majority of his fellow housemates and then wins the series. People decide to switch off. Intense rumours follow for an 'All Stars' series of CBB with big former names rumoured including Katie Price, Perez Hilton and Katie Hopkins (the trio were a fixture in C5's most popular series CBB15). The 'All Stars' line up for said CBB series instead includes names such as Jasmine Waltz and Coleen Nolan. People decide to switch off this series and not watch due to the disappointing line up. THEN the next civilian run of the show BB18 features a large number of 'civilians' who are actually not civilians. Many have featured on other television shows and have large social media followings and would be able to qualify for the celebrity version of the show. Many people decide to switch off - hence the low ratings.

SO IN SHORT - the 3 things that 'killed' C5 BB were Bear winning CBB18, CBB19 having a disappointing 'All Star' line up and then BB18 being filled with people who could have qualified for the celebrity show which already has 2 runs a year.
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We all know that the three things that 'killed' C4 BB were the combination of Nikki being able to return and be eligible to win, the CBB5 racism row and then the BB8 all female launch which was mostly filled with 'fame hungry wannabees.' This resulted in the ratings decline over the last 3 years on C4 BB and resulted in C4 axing it.

After that, you could argue that BB had already been 'killed' - but for arguments sake BB14, CBB14, CBB15 did really well in the ratings after a worrying few years and then BB17 also improved in the ratings, providing evidence the show was building itself back up after Timebomb so C5 BB was doing 'okay' by it's low standards.

Then Bear comes along, behaves despicably, bullies majority of his fellow housemates and then wins the series. People decide to switch off. Intense rumours follow for an 'All Stars' series of CBB with big former names rumoured including Katie Price, Perez Hilton and Katie Hopkins (the trio were a fixture in C5's most popular series CBB15). The 'All Stars' line up for said CBB series instead includes names such as Jasmine Waltz and Coleen Nolan. People decide to switch off this series and not watch due to the disappointing line up. THEN the next civilian run of the show BB18 features a large number of 'civilians' who are actually not civilians. Many have featured on other television shows and have large social media followings and would be able to qualify for the celebrity version of the show. Many people decide to switch off - hence the low ratings.

SO IN SHORT - the 3 things that 'killed' C5 BB were Bear winning CBB18, CBB19 having a disappointing 'All Star' line up and then BB18 being filled with people who could have qualified for the celebrity show which already has 2 runs a year.
Agree with all of this. I also thinks the scripted reality TV shows have proved so popular without causing the controversy BB has caused over the years. They're just as cheap to make, producers have total control over what happens without the hassle
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Agree with all of this. I also thinks the scripted reality TV shows have proved so popular without causing the controversy BB has caused over the years. They're just as cheap to make, producers have total control over what happens without the hassle
But the lack of script and how **** naturally pans out is the appeal for me and quite a lot of the bb fanbase. I don’t even really like reality shows but big brother uk is a niche that I don’t think anything else is capable of filling. Obviously we’re not a large enough demographic to base their business decisions on but still
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We all know that the three things that 'killed' C4 BB were the combination of Nikki being able to return and be eligible to win, the CBB5 racism row and then the BB8 all female launch which was mostly filled with 'fame hungry wannabees.' This resulted in the ratings decline over the last 3 years on C4 BB and resulted in C4 axing it.

After that, you could argue that BB had already been 'killed' - but for arguments sake BB14, CBB14, CBB15 did really well in the ratings after a worrying few years and then BB17 also improved in the ratings, providing evidence the show was building itself back up after Timebomb so C5 BB was doing 'okay' by it's low standards.

Then Bear comes along, behaves despicably, bullies majority of his fellow housemates and then wins the series. People decide to switch off. Intense rumours follow for an 'All Stars' series of CBB with big former names rumoured including Katie Price, Perez Hilton and Katie Hopkins (the trio were a fixture in C5's most popular series CBB15). The 'All Stars' line up for said CBB series instead includes names such as Jasmine Waltz and Coleen Nolan. People decide to switch off this series and not watch due to the disappointing line up. THEN the next civilian run of the show BB18 features a large number of 'civilians' who are actually not civilians. Many have featured on other television shows and have large social media followings and would be able to qualify for the celebrity version of the show. Many people decide to switch off - hence the low ratings.

SO IN SHORT - the 3 things that 'killed' C5 BB were Bear winning CBB18, CBB19 having a disappointing 'All Star' line up and then BB18 being filled with people who could have qualified for the celebrity show which already has 2 runs a year.
This + the fact that the BB18 launch aired the same time as an episode of Corrie, making people feel not as obliged to watch having missed it from the start. Bear was definitely the main murderer of it though, since I recall thousands of people declaring they'd never watch again, even prior to him winning, and those figures say all there is to know.
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I think Helen Wood comparing Brian Belo a murderer/rapist, combined with her and Marc calling him words like 'psycho' and 'dumbass' as he tried to escape being bullied by jumping over the wall is another key factor, as there were thousands of Ofcom complaints for it.
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