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21-03-2018, 10:42 AM | #51 | |||
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I'm sorry if I've shut you down, that wasn't my intention. But misogyny is a crime and I am not a cis woman x |
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21-03-2018, 10:43 AM | #52 | ||
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I don't agree a word will make anymore difference than every other sexual/gender identifier but I respect your fears. Last edited by Marsh.; 21-03-2018 at 10:45 AM. |
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21-03-2018, 10:48 AM | #53 | ||
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21-03-2018, 10:51 AM | #54 | ||
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I agree most, if not all, of the acts listed jn this law are criminal. I just feel labelling them all as misogynistic hate crimes kind of walks a fine line. |
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21-03-2018, 10:53 AM | #55 | |||
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21-03-2018, 10:53 AM | #56 | |||
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I DETEST that word 'cis' - or whatever it is.
Cystitis - (WC) Cisterns - Cystic Fibrosis - Cissy - Syphilis - the word has no positive connotations and needs to go back to wherever it came from. This ever-increasing need by some to 'Label' and 'Name' every single thing under the sun is banal - in my opinion.
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21-03-2018, 10:56 AM | #57 | ||
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And I will apologise to Niamh and Livia if I have at all come across aggressive or rude. I suppose the way this thread started and the sour tone stuck throughout. Maybe I got a little defensive.
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21-03-2018, 10:59 AM | #58 | |||
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OMG i am SHOOK, i like this sweet side of you Marsh
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21-03-2018, 11:00 AM | #59 | ||
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21-03-2018, 11:01 AM | #60 | |||
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No worries, I mean it's good subject, I hate when we have to close or delete stuff because we can't all just talk about the actual topic. This one in particular seems to get very emotive lately though (and I know I've kind of took it offtopic a bit as well, sorry about that but atleast we kind of understand where we're all coming from a bit more)
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21-03-2018, 11:02 AM | #61 | ||
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You aren’t the only one who gets a little defensive when they feel under attack though. And the reasons why I and others have also felt defensive are evident in the previous thread and are reflected in your most recent comment implying it is all really down to me and nothing to do with you.
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21-03-2018, 11:03 AM | #62 | ||
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21-03-2018, 11:16 AM | #63 | ||
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21-03-2018, 11:19 AM | #64 | |||
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For me it's not the word really, the word only annoys me because as I said before the only proper times I've ever seen it used has been negative and always directed at women as kind of insult. I've never seen it directed at men in that way. If I had actually seen it used in a more descriptor type way and not in the negative way maybe It wouldn't bother me at all, i'm not sure but either way it's just tainted for me now
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21-03-2018, 11:23 AM | #65 | ||
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On a more serious note - I agree completely. Good post btw. |
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21-03-2018, 11:30 AM | #66 | ||
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I can well imagine it sullying your view of it tbf. I suppose like slang and regional dialect, people take offence at all kinds of daft words or things. Reminds me of my nan always thinking my cousin was criticising her by saying "sick". He is a Scouser but that didn't stop her clicking her tongue every time he said it. |
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21-03-2018, 11:31 AM | #67 | ||
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But now this is cis thread part 2 and I blame Niamh. Last edited by Marsh.; 21-03-2018 at 11:32 AM. |
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21-03-2018, 11:34 AM | #68 | |||
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21-03-2018, 12:37 PM | #69 | |||
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Id be doing the dishes a lot more, thats for sure.
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21-03-2018, 12:48 PM | #70 | ||
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I've said before that I hate the word "cis", even though I do think there should be -A- word. Just not "cis". I have multiple reasons for that.
1) The etymology is trash. It's from a chemistry term and I can only guess that whoever thought to use it in the context of gender thought they were being really clever... but it's that sort of "omg so clever guys look what I've come up with!!" that isn't actually very clever and is a bit flimsy. 2) It's not a term that originated in actual biological science or academic psychology. It's a populist "buzz term" that sort of sprung up from the LGBT+ subculture and is trying to worm its way in as the accepted official term. I personally want a proper terminology to use, from an actual source within psychological gender theory... not a word that someone came up with in their bedroom and spread online. 3) It just is a stupid sounding word. Come on. It is. 4) It makes me think of "cif" And that ****ing annoys me anyway because it's called Jif! JIF!! Syphilis doesn't have "sis" in it Kirk... wtf... Last edited by Toy Soldier; 21-03-2018 at 12:48 PM. |
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21-03-2018, 01:00 PM | #71 | |||
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21-03-2018, 01:00 PM | #72 | ||
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21-03-2018, 01:05 PM | #73 | |||
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don't get me wrong or if it sounds nasty or rude, but serious debates well you usually have heated conversations in debates anyway, especially when it's about something what hits you emotionally
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21-03-2018, 01:06 PM | #74 | ||
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Biological works just fine for me tbh. You have biological women, transwomen, biological men and trans men.
Though tbh, the only way to actually be a man, rather than a transman, or a woman rather than a transwoman is biologically. Cis is almost always used in a sneery/negative way. It also assumes that you identify with all of the stereotypes forced onto you because of your sex. Plus, I have been told many times that I am 'just cis' when this is not actually the case at all given I do not have a 'gender' at all and do not follow that religious type thinking of gendered souls and whatnot. But when I state I am not actually cis, I am told I am wrong
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21-03-2018, 01:08 PM | #75 | |||
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