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Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s first minister, has implied the Queen should refuse to be drawn into a future vote on Scottish independence after David Cameron admitted he asked the monarch to intervene in 2014.
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Yes, she should be impartial. If Scotland break away from England it is a political separation, the queen would still be queen of Scotland as she is now
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No! She should put her foot down with a firm hand.
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Banned
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She's retained impartiality in everything else and she should remain impartial here.
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I Love my brick
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She's probably not that flexible anymore
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Remembering Kerry
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Yes she should remain impartial.
I'm sure however she would be sad to see the break up of the United Kingdom and of course Great Britain too. |
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Yes she should stay out of it
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Yes.
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No Cameron the Sneak
lets that out tonight 9PM BBC1HD The Cameron Years. To Help Sell HIS book The Queen will no longer get involved. after this bad leak |
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Thing is she is the head of state so in some ways it would be odd for the head of state to be neutral on the issue of splitting their nation up..
I think she did exactly the right thing in the last referendum by hinting that she wanted Scotland to stay without explicitly stating anything |
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She will remain queen of Scotland. |
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I Love my brick
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Would she? She didn't remain our queen when we became a Republic
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All hail the Moyesiah
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Yeah the Scottish independence campaign always said the Queen would still be head of state. I don't think there's any issue as such with the monarchy in Scotland with most people as they always had one and it was a Scottish king who first united England and Scotland so that predates the UK as it is now
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Umm I'm afraid I don't think that's true at all. The UK is a nation - England and Scotland are only constituent countries within that nation. There is no such thing as the 'Queen of England' anymore.
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Disagree. UK is an union of nations.
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At the opening ceremony of the devolved Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh in 1999, attended by the Queen, the Presiding Officer Lord Steel said at the close of his opening address: "It is good that today, once again, we the elected representatives of the people are able to welcome your majesty, not only as Queen of the United Kingdom, but seated as you are among us, to greet you in the historic and constitutionally correct manner, with warmth and affection, as Queen of Scots." Wikipedia |
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Remembering Kerry
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I understand Her Majesty's title is.
Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and other Commonwealth Countries. I can't see her not wanting to be, still Queen of Scotland if Scotland voted for independence. I think they'd want her to be so too. |
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Nation means nationality ie english, scottish, welsh and irish
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All hail the Moyesiah
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Feel like you're kinda deliberately making a different argument here. Yeah some might like England or Scotland to be their own nations and choose to identify as English or Scottish but it's a fact of international law that the UK is the actual country, the Queen is the head of state of that country and British is the official nationality
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