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Old 19-12-2019, 10:46 AM #51
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The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch.
You're almost there LT. You're right that the senate will be a partisan show trial, however, serious conservative scholars agree what Trump did was illegal and an act he should be removed for.
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You're almost there LT. You're right that the senate will be a partisan show trial, however, serious conservative scholars agree what Trump did was illegal and an act he should be removed for.
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who?
You can search for republicans for the rule of law for starters.

None other than Kellyanne Conway's husband, George Conway, another conservative lawyer is also in favour. It's only the carnival barkers in the government, and the toothless MAGA serfs that are blindly loyal against their own constitution.
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I doubt this impeachment will make any difference to the status quo.
He won’t be ousted.
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Old 19-12-2019, 11:12 AM #56
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I doubt this impeachment will make any difference to the status quo.
He won’t be ousted.
You don't refuse to prosecute criminals because a jury may acquit
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Haha, You're Fired Donald

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In the Senate next month
he will be protected
and not removed


So what a waste of time and money..................
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You don't refuse to prosecute criminals because a jury may acquit
Someone doesn't face a criminal court because they maybe possibly said or did something according to a "witness" who didn't see or what they're accusing him of.
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Someone doesn't face a criminal court because they maybe possibly said or did something according to a "witness" who didn't see or what they're accusing him of.
If you phone in an anonymous tip, that the police investigate and find a whole load of witnesses that back up your tip, then the accused tries to prevent anyone from testifying, then yeah, that's exactly how investigations work.
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Intimidation of witnesses is frowned upon as a rule.
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I don't want to be that person who comes into the thread and comments despite not knowing anything, but what does this even mean?

Trump has been 'impeached' but he's still president, right?
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I don't want to be that person who comes into the thread and comments despite not knowing anything, but what does this even mean?

Trump has been 'impeached' but he's still president, right?
Impeachment happens at Congress and is essentially a delcaration that there's a case to answer, the trial for removal happens at Senate but requires a 2/3 majority vote to remove the president... and the parties tend to (as always) vote along party lines so he will not be removed. The 2/3 majority rule makes it a relatively pointless process, to be honest.

He's only the 3rd president to be impeached in US history which should say a lot, but his supporters won't care.
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Impeachment happens at Congress and is essentially a delcaration that there's a case to answer, the trial for removal happens at Senate but requires a 2/3 majority vote to remove the president... and the parties tend to (as always) vote along party lines so he will not be removed. The 2/3 majority rule makes it a relatively pointless process, to be honest.

He's only the 3rd president to be impeached in US history which should say a lot, but his supporters won't care.
You missed off the part where Trump gets to decide if he wants a trial by combat against Obama. Only fair to give Braden the full picture.
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Its political showboating at its worst and illustrates how desperate and out of touch the Democrats are (and naturally worried they will get battered in 2020)
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The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch.
By supporting him now, you voice support for everything he has done, so you are never allowed to claim faux outrage and pretend you are moralistic when you voice support for a president that openly mocked a disabled person and veterans, who attacks a 16 year old girl because a magazine gave her an award (You share that in common with Trump, actually) and has actually defrauded charity to pay for his campaign. Shall we go over everything he's done in office now?

You cannot support Trump and pretend to have any kind of morals.
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By supporting him now, you voice support for everything he has done, so you are never allowed to claim faux outrage and pretend you are moralistic when you voice support for a president that openly mocked a disabled person and veterans, who attacks a 16 year old girl because a magazine gave her an award (You share that in common with Trump, actually) and has actually defrauded charity to pay for his campaign. Shall we go over everything he's done in office now?

You cannot support Trump and pretend to have any kind of morals.

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Its political showboating at its worst and illustrates how desperate and out of touch the Democrats are (and naturally worried they will get battered in 2020)
Witness after witness turned up to say it was wrong and against the constitution. Take Sondland, who got his ambassadorship after donating $1million dollars to trump, said it was a quid pro quo. These aren't democrats.
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If someone breaks the law, they must face the consequences but the Right Wing only believe that when it benefits them, as evidenced by you. If Obama pulled this **** then you'd be screeching endlessly for his impeachment, the difference between us is that I would be too. That's what true morality is, accountability. Guilt shouldn't be dependant on allegiance but that's certainly how the right sees it.

As far as I know, not a single republican in the house voted to impeach and they won't in the senate either and that just shows how morally bankrupt they all are. If this was a normal trial, the Jury would face consequences for such corruption but because it's the republicans, you cheer it on.

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Witness after witness turned up to say it was wrong and against the constitution. Take Sondland, who got his ambassadorship after donating $1million dollars to trump, said it was a quid pro quo. These aren't democrats.
its a poor partisan, political move by the Do Nothing Democrats, fuelled by tribal animosities.

No wonder America is so divided - smh
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Nothing more than a load of lawyers wanting some extra dough..a complete waste of time and money.
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Yeah, a waste of time holding the President accountable for his ILLEGAL actions.
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Morality shouldn't be a partisan issue but the right wing will certainly do it's best to make it one.

If you disregard evidence to alleviate blame from someone just because they are alligned with you, you have no moral fibre.
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Nothing more than a load of lawyers wanting some extra dough..a complete waste of time and money.
you got it Parmy
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Yeah, a waste of time holding the President accountable for his ILLEGAL actions.
You can't hold him responsible! He stands on the white - I mean, right side of history.

I need to stop mixing up my words with these Freudian slips.
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Vladimir Putin has criticised the impeachment of Donald Trump, dismissing the charges as “absolutely made up” and saying he expected the US president to survive the historic proceedings



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