[Black Dagger]

No thanks at Johnny Mac.

[Kyurayy]

Bring back jameeeeeeeeeeeesssssss

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Kyurayy

Bring back jameeeeeeeeeeeesssssss

Which one?

James Huling
James Rhine
James Zinkand

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Which one?

James Huling
James Rhine
James Zinkand

Hopefully the mean Rhine

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by caprimint

There we go

Originally Posted by Liam-

Johnny mac was unbearable

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Kyurayy

Bring back jameeeeeeeeeeeesssssss

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Which one?

James Huling
James Rhine
James Zinkand

Originally Posted by LukeB

Hopefully the mean Rhine

Rhine would be the correct choice & Zinkand might be kinda interesting even tho pretty awful... but tbh hopefully no James at all

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Rhine would be the correct choice & Zinkand might be kinda interesting even tho pretty awful... but tbh hopefully no James at all

Another sov reunion with Janelle,James and Kaysar is what we deserve

I would like to see half new and old school players tbh it would be great to see some old school players tbh especially those who have only played once.. It would be great to see people like Eric(8),Jen(8),Keesha,Libra,Jun and Jee again.

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Another sov reunion with Janelle,James and Kaysar is what we deserve

I would like to see half new and old school players tbh it would be great to see some old school players tbh especially those who have only played once.. It would be great to see people like Eric(8),Jen(8),Keesha,Libra,Jun and Jee again.

James would turn on Janelle and Kaysar as soon as possible.

I would like to see him though. The original Veto King should return.

But AG & production probably will not allow it as James has bashed them quite ferociously over the years. Especially AG.

[Mitchell]

RBBQ are reporting that Paul is likely NOT on this season.

Please be true

[Ramsay]

Yes please, so he can lose for the third time by one vote

[Jack_]

That would really suck, Paul should definitely be on an All Stars season

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Yes please, so he can lose for the third time by one vote

To Nicole or Josh again?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

That would really suck, Paul should definitely be on an All Stars season

Said no one, ever

[Calderyon]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

RBBQ are reporting that Paul is likely NOT on this season.

Please be true

Originally Posted by Ramsay

Yes please, so he can lose for the third time by one vote

Both of these would be good.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Said no one, ever

I don’t care what anyone says, the only person to ever lose 5-4 twice should be on an All Stars season

I hate Nicole, but she’s a recent and “big name” female winner and I’d totally understand her inclusion. Don’t care for Tyler either, but he should be on the cast

If you disagree you’re lying to yourself

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don’t care what anyone says, the only person to ever lose 5-4 twice should be on an All Stars season

I hate Nicole, but she’s a recent and “big name” female winner and I’d totally understand her inclusion. Don’t care for Tyler either, but he should be on the cast

If you disagree you’re lying to yourself

The only reason he got so far on his second time was because he played in a season that was made up of paul superfans who were so Desperate for both fame and validation and cared so little about the game they were playing that they were happy to let Paul steamroll them out of the game. But he treated them like such **** and didn’t take any notice to jury management that he managed to lose in a series where the whole jury were up his ass.

So yes I disagree, and no, no lies were told.

[Morgan.]

He probably pulled out of AS2 because he knows that he stands zero chance of getting anywhere close to the finale in a game full of people who have reputations to uphold, and their own working brains.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

The only reason he got so far on his second time was because he played in a season that was made up of paul superfans who were so Desperate for both fame and validation and cared so little about the game they were playing that they were happy to let Paul steamroll them out of the game. But he treated them like such **** and didn’t take any notice to jury management that he managed to lose in a series where the whole jury were up his ass.

So yes I disagree, and no, no lies were told.

Yeah I’m not quite sure why I needed an explanation of the machinations of BB19 or why Paul lost, cause it has absolutely nothing to do with his name-value to an All Stars season, which is what we’re actually talking about here. He’s in the top 5 most recognisable players this decade, regardless of why it happened

I know people dislike him and I get why they do, and I also understand people not wanting to see him, that’s fine. I don’t want to see Nicole. But disagreeing that either of them “should” be on an All Stars season (which is what I actually said) is just really, really silly. Try being a little objective

[Braden]

I’m not a Paul fan but I think it would be weird not to include him in an All-Star season.

It could be somewhat interesting to see if he’s humbled a bit after his popularity dwindled throughout BB19. That being said if Josh, Paul and Christmas are all on the season...well...yuck.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yeah I’m not quite sure why I needed an explanation of the machinations of BB19 or why Paul lost, cause it has absolutely nothing to do with his name-value to an All Stars season, which is what we’re actually talking about here. He’s in the top 5 most recognisable players this decade, regardless of why it happened

I know people dislike him and I get why they do, and I also understand people not wanting to see him, that’s fine. I don’t want to see Nicole. But disagreeing that either of them “should” be on an All Stars season (which is what I actually said) is just really, really silly. Try being a little objective

I don’t know how being memorable makes someone an all star, there’s lots of memorable people. At the end of the day he was an average player who got on execs good side and was made to look better than he actually was.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Jack_

If you disagree you’re lying to yourself

Ahhh

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I don’t care what anyone says, the only person to ever lose 5-4 twice should be on an All Stars season

I hate Nicole, but she’s a recent and “big name” female winner and I’d totally understand her inclusion. Don’t care for Tyler either, but he should be on the cast

If you disagree you’re lying to yourself

I would be more inclined to agree if All-Stars was actually synonymous with good players or whatever, but as far as I’m concerned any criteria is thrown out the window when a winner like Lisa is left at the front door for early boots like Boogie and Kaysar, people who made the worst moves of all time like Marcellas and Howie, and Chicken George. That basically tells me that everything is out he window and All-Stars is all about who is likely to make ~good TV~, and Nicole and Paul have the reverse King Midas effect where everything they touch turns to complete **** so no thank you.

EDIT: For all the stuff about name recognition... I get it and I don’t. If there’s any reason for production to want Paul back, it’s not because he’s recognizable and will draw in viewers. It’s because he’s a performing monkey who will wear any dumb costume or read any contrived cue card line that Allison wants him to. Any name recognition he has would come with a large portion of viewers (from any sect of fandom, really) rolling their eyes and moaning and groaning about the fact that he’s coming back on their TVs again. Threepeating over the course of five seasons is literal overkill.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

I don’t know how being memorable makes someone an all star, there’s lots of memorable people. At the end of the day he was an average player who got on execs good side and was made to look better than he actually was.

...because it’s (mostly) memorable people who make up All Stars casts for reality shows? From CBS’ description of the season:

The all-star Houseguests, including winners, finalists, legends, memorable personalities, and some of the best to never win the game, will be announced closer to premiere.

If you think Paul doesn’t fit this bill, again, you are lying to yourself

And his gameplay is still irrelevant to this discussion but in BB18 he was on the block five times, saved himself from eviction three of those times but then took the wrong person to final two, else he wins the season. That’s not “average” lol, in spite of his glaringly huge endgame flaws

Basically what you’re saying here is “I don’t like Paul and don’t want to see him again”, which I get and many others will agree, but that’s very different from saying he “shouldn’t” be on an All Stars season

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I would be more inclined to agree if All-Stars was actually synonymous with good players or whatever, but as far as I’m concerned any criteria is thrown out the window when a winner like Lisa is left at the front door for early boots like Boogie and Kaysar, people who made the worst moves of all time like Marcellas and Howie, and Chicken George. That basically tells me that everything is out he window and All-Stars is all about who is likely to make ~good TV~, and Nicole and Paul have the reverse King Midas effect where everything they touch turns to complete **** so no thank you.

EDIT: For all the stuff about name recognition... I get it and I don’t. If there’s any reason for production to want Paul back, it’s not because he’s recognizable and will draw in viewers. It’s because he’s a performing monkey who will wear any dumb costume or read any contrived cue card line that Allison wants him to. Any name recognition he has would come with a large portion of viewers (from any sect of fandom, really) rolling their eyes and moaning and groaning about the fact that he’s coming back on their TVs again. Threepeating over the course of five seasons is literal overkill.

I don't think an All Stars season is ever or should entirely be full of good players, or else it'd just be a summer of gamebots. A good cast is made up of the former, fun/entertaining (and indeed polarising) TV characters, fan favourites and maybe the odd person who deserves a second chance!

Boogie only made the cast because it's not All Stars without Dr Will, they had no choice. Kaysar was a fan favourite and Howie and Marcellas I'd put under the "TV characters" umbrella. I'm guessing Chicken George was only on for BB1 rep but I haven't seen so idk if he was the best choice

Like if I was going to make a comparison to illustrate my point, I couldn't stand Jase in BB5, and I was actually kind of annoyed I had to see him again for BB7, but I totally understood why they cast him. One of the most memorable houseguests from a previous season, the definition of a "marmite" character, but the kind of thing a TV exec is looking for (and then you add in Diane for a "rivalry")

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

RBBQ are reporting that Paul is likely NOT on this season.

Please be true

Please let is be true!!!