[Nicky91]

doesn't make me dislike this queen


to quote and rephrase that iconic song from sister act: i will follow her wherever she may go

[Livia]

She said: 'I misspoke... it was about race. I stand with the Jewish people, as I always have'

Hahaha..... **** off.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from a US talk show after saying the Holocaust involved "two groups of white people".

ABC News said Goldberg would be off-air for two weeks after her "wrong and hurtful comments".

The actress and TV personality said on ABC's The View that the Nazi genocide of the Jews was "not about race".

She apologised but then caused further offence while attempting to explain her remarks on a late-night show.

In a note to staff on Tuesday night, ABC News president Kim Godwin wrote: "Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments.

"While Whoopi has apologized, I've asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments.

"The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities."

"These decisions are never easy, but necessary," she added in the memo, reported the Hollywood Reporter.

"Just last week I noted that the culture at ABC News is one that is driven, kind, inclusive, respectful, and transparent. Whoopi's comments do not align with those values."

Earlier on Tuesday, Goldberg issued her third public apology.

"Yesterday on the show I misspoke," she said to open the talk show.

"[The Holocaust] is indeed about race, because Hitler and the Nazis considered the Jews to be an inferior race.

"Now, words matter, and mine are no exception. I regret my comments and I stand corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people."

The 66-year-old Oscar-winning actress, who has been on The View since 2007, first made the controversial comments on Monday's show while discussing a Tennessee school board's banning of a graphic novel about the Holocaust on the grounds that it showed nudity, profanity and suicide.

Amid the uproar, she released an apology hours later.

But on CBS' The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Monday night, while attempting to clarify her comments, she said the Nazis had lied and actually had issues with ethnicity not race, which caused further offence.

It is not the first time Goldberg has caused controversy.

She said in 2009 that film director Roman Polanksi - who pleaded guilty to "unlawful sex with a minor" in 1977 - was not guilty of "rape-rape".

She also defended Bill Cosby as he faced sexual assault allegations, before reversing course amid a backlash.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60225196

She's got form then clearly, I hadn't heard any of those other comments either :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

We forgive you Whoopi

You Jordon
are on your own.

It was right to Suspend her, FAST
and Suspend all his Nike and Other Contracts

[Alf]

[Cherie]

same with middle aged white woman Sharon Osborne..

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

same with middle aged white woman Sharon Osborne..

You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.

White privilege IS a thing, but you can mock it all you want.

Do you want Whoopie to be permanently banned then ?? . Whoever you are people get cancelled all the time.

Whoopie knows what it's like to be treated differently and badly because of race & gender ,so nobody will convince me she's antisemitic. I don't agree with everything she says though or the way she says it.

[Niamh.]

David Baddiels interview here about it is very good I thought

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...r7Kre5Sir1bVQg

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

David Baddiels interview here about it is very good I thought

It's lack of education and an unwillingness to believe that racism exists outside of black/white relationships

There are probably millions of americans with exactly the same views as her and the labour party is pretty much the same here

[Mystic Mock]

Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.

Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She needs cancelled.

That type of thinking needs to stop.

[Mystic Mock]

The one part that is really weird from her comments though is that most Jewish people aren't white.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

She's got form then clearly, I hadn't heard any of those other comments either :/

No admittedly I might be withdrawing my defence of her after reading about "rape-rape."

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.

The term white privilege is racist imo as it's a racial stereotype.

I understand that you're just messing around Alf, but terms like white privilege, white moment, the N word & the P word just piss me off, as it shows that in a lot of these cases people can't defend their viewpoint without referencing someone's colour of skin in a negative way.

I promise to stop posting on the thread now.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The term white privilege is racist imo as it's a racial stereotype.

I understand that you're just messing around Alf, but terms like white privilege, white moment, the N word & the P word just piss me off, as it shows that in a lot of these cases people can't defend their viewpoint without referencing someone's colour of skin in a negative way.

I promise to stop posting on the thread now.

Whether you think 'white privilege' exists or not , i've heard and seen some white people take advantage of the system, as they know they won't be treated the same way as a minority would especially in America.



In a ideal world they'd be no racism or people's skin colour mentioned in a negative way. But it happens all the time. Just like stereotyping and racial profiling keeps happening aswell.

As for Whoopi's comments about Polanski & Cosby i have no idea where she's coming from. i can't defend that as we all know they were both guilty.

But i know there's alot of hypocrisy especially in hollywood , as everyone knew Polanski was a creep yet they celebrated him not long ago at an award show.

And there's people who either don't want to believe Cosby is answerable either because they're in denial due to growing up watching him, or because of that awful mess of a court case .

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.

Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.

no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from reality

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.

You can be an atheist Jew, technically. It's an ethnicity based on Israeli genes.

Being a muslim or Christian is "just" being part of a religion, being a Jew is not.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from reality

Well that is where it gets complicated really; there were people who were both ethnically Jewish and practicing Judaism, there were people who were converts to Judaism with no Jewish ethnicity, and there were people who were ethnically Jewish but had no faith at all.

HOWEVER, the important thing to remember is that the Nazis persecuted and murdered Jewish people regardless of the above. They drew no distinction between a religious Jewish person and an atheist with Jewish parents. Which means it wasn't about ideology... It was definitely in large part about race.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.

Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.

I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".

Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Livia

I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".

Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.

Technically you're a cockney.

[Elliot]

She’s right

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Elliot

She’s right

she has already apologised for being wrong and is suspended

so....

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

She’s right

Hitler very much saw it as a race issue considering he was fighting for the Aryan Race which he thought was the "superior race". Race was very much the driving factor during the Holocaust

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Elliot

She’s right

No, she has the same ability as you at being fantastically wrong most of the time.