[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

there is nothing new under the sun

Yeah tbf there's only a certain amount of combinations in music, surely?

[arista]

But how stupid to start singing Marvin's track Live
Merging the 2 tracks.


Once you see that
you understand
why it is in the USA court

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah tbf there's only a certain amount of combinations in music, surely?

it depends how you define it. Basic building blocks like chords that they are talking about in this case, yes, pop music generally consists of the same chords and its not possible to copyright

If you talk about a musical arrangement, where for example a violin plays a particular line and a flute plays another etc etc it is suitable for copyright

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it depends how you define it. Basic building blocks like chords that they are talking about in this case, yes, pop music generally consists of the same chords and its not possible to copyright

If you talk about a musical arrangement, where for example a violin plays a particular line and a flute plays another etc etc it is suitable for copyright

It must be really hard as a song writer to not copy a song accidentally/unconsciously as well

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It must be really hard as a song writer to not copy a song accidentally/unconsciously as well

thats why it's possible to copyright an arrangement, because 2 people couldn't just come up with exactly the same arrangement

[Soldier Boy]

Have you heard about the three-way suing over Radiohead's "Creep"?

Radiohead sued Lana Del Rey for "Get Free" ... ... but Radiohead was actually previously sued by The Hollies for copying "The Air That I Breathe"

Youtube video

Youtube video

Youtube video

[Niamh.]

Did any of them win TS?

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did any of them win TS?

IIRC both, sort of, as both settled out of court for part of the royalties. I think both are undisclosed but it seems likely that Radiohead/Del Rey one was either over or exactly 40%, since it was known that they initially rejected an offer of 40% ... so if they did later settle, either they changed their minds on that figure or were offered more. I'd guess they got 50%.

Annoyingly of course, that means it's unknown how it would have gone if it had gone to court. Could literally have been awarded 100% of royalties, a split, or nothing at all .

[arista]

Ed Sheeran tells NYC court he'll QUIT music
if he's found guilty of ripping off
Marvin Gaye's 'Let's Get it On' - as he brands
$100M copyright trial 'insulting'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ource=Connatix

Its all his Fault
He sang his song,but then went into Lets Get It On
merging the 2 tracks Live at a Concert.

[DigitalSid]

Remember that time Lily Allen tried to claim this one was just also just a coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLrCDzAp5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwC1Ctrj6Xk

[arista]

[Kathryn Townsend Griffin, the daughter of
Gaye's co-writer Ed Townsend,
is pictured outside the court on Monday]


[The 32-year-old British singer-songwriter
strummed the chords he is accused of lifting
from Marvin Gaye's 1973 hit 'Let's Get it On'
as he took the stand]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ource=Connatix

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by DigitalSid

Remember that time Lily Allen tried to claim this one was just also just a coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noLrCDzAp5M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwC1Ctrj6Xk

Who’d Have Known is the Lily Allen song that was compared to Shine by Take That

Listen to this chorus .. 59 seconds in

https://youtu.be/FbDMUijBP2U


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[Alf]

Ed Sheeran won the case

[arista]

Ed Sherran Found Not Guilty

The lucky star got off.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Lets-On.html

[bitontheslide]

Nothing lucky about it, it was never going to go any other way as I pointed out at the beginning of the thread

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

Ed Sherran Found Not Guilty

The lucky star got off.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Lets-On.html

Onto the next legal case against him


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

Ed Sherran Found Not Guilty

The lucky star got off.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Lets-On.html

Lucky Star was a popular Anime tbf.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Nothing lucky about it, it was never going to go any other way as I pointed out at the beginning of the thread

Hopefully sets precedent for future similar claims? I have a feeling that the other examples in the thread would probably have gone the same way IF anyone had been willing to let it go all the way to the courtroom. Seems like out-of-court settlements for a royalties %age have been the norm for this in the past.

[Soldier Boy]

I'm actually a huge fan of remixes, re-imaginings, covers and mash-ups in general so I genuinely want it not to be difficult for artists to draw on and use each other's work .