[GoldHeart]

Nathan got rejected to his face , BP basically said " nope we're going in our own single beds" . The more I see these 2 silly fruit loops...the more disingenuous & unnatural they seem together. Looking in from the outside,it feels more like Nathan is forcing the showmance ,and BP is awkwardly going along...but is getting bored of it.

These 2 have as much chemistry as a doughnut covered in seafood,they don't go together....they don't fit .

BP let slip she prefers a dad bod aka closer to Marcello's body. She hesitated & fumbled her words when asked
about Nathan's body . Nathan is as far away as a dad bod...as you could get.

The more I see these 2, the cracks show up to how fake this whole showmance is ...the more exposed it is .

[Mrluvaluva]

BP isn't as invested in their relationship as Nathan would like to think. Nathan, I will admit, came across to me as a bit creepy in that conversation. You do things when you are both comfortable with the whole thing. BP obviously wasn't. She basically said that. Yet he still pushed it. I wasn't comfortable with it. She was adamant to sleep in separate beds. Respect that Nathan!

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

BP isn't as invested in their relationship as Nathan would like to think. Nathan, I will admit, came across to me as a bit creepy in that conversation. You do things when you are both comfortable with the whole thing. BP obviously wasn't. She basically said that. Yet he still pushed it. I wasn't comfortable with it. She was adamant to sleep in separate beds. Respect that Nathan!

Yeah i found that pushy and weird aswell , BP shut him down straight away. Can tell he is NOT her type whatsoever. Nathan is desperate for a showmance.

But also the more i think about it , i'm now wondering... if Martha's comment is making her paranoid now? . When Martha went grovelling around her....... she used the excuse of "Nathan" in the mix , it was all garbled of course (as we know Martha is talking absolute sh1t), and the way she said to BP aswell "don't get too much in your head" .

I think it's put BP on a back footing , and she's perhaps worried how she's being perceived now with Nathan and this showmance cringefest. That's partly my theory anyway... but before all that it was always contrived & fake
anyway between them .

[Maru]

I see it as her approaching the relationship with more sincerity in that she's leaving some things for the outside and not trying to make a show of it. That's more sincere than the direction he wants to go which is to have his way in front of the cameras. He's probably wanting max camera time as a couple. I don't think of Nathan as the most genuine of people in there and so I think even if she declined him, it potentially makes him look more authentic than he really is (his gameplan imo) towards her and the relationship. There's no real reason they need to share a bed so early on. I thought she was being pressured to prove her feelings too soon by sharing a bed and she should be allowed some modesty before the public. That is a major red flag. But, a good portion of me thinks they'll be sharing beds in a couple of days anyway because this type of manipulation used to work on BB in the past... I'm still hoping she sticks to her guns.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah i found that pushy and weird aswell , BP shut him down straight away. Can tell he is NOT her type whatsoever. Nathan is desperate for a showmance.

But also the more i think about it , i'm now wondering... if Martha's comment is making her paranoid now? . When Martha went grovelling around her....... she used the excuse of "Nathan" in the mix , it was all garbled of course (as we know Martha is talking absolute sh1t), and the way she said to BP aswell "don't get too much in your head" .

I think it's put BP on a back footing , and she's perhaps worried how she's being perceived now with Nathan and this showmance cringefest. That's partly my theory anyway... but before all that it was always contrived & fake
anyway between them .

That's an interesting comment. I'm going to have to think about that.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Maru

I see it as her approaching the relationship with more sincerity in that she's leaving some things for the outside and not trying to make a show of it. That's more sincere than the direction he wants to go which is to have his way in front of the cameras. He's probably wanting max camera time as a couple. I don't think of Nathan as the most genuine of people in there and so I think even if she declined him, it potentially makes him look more authentic than he really is (his gameplan imo) towards her and the relationship. There's no real reason they need to share a bed so early on. I thought she was being pressured to prove her feelings too soon by sharing a bed and she should be allowed some modesty before the public. That is a major red flag. But, a good portion of me thinks they'll be sharing beds in a couple of days anyway because this type of manipulation used to work on BB in the past... I'm still hoping she sticks to her guns.

I definitely agree nobody should be pressured to share a bed , but I'm sure she was already laying beside him on occasions....but I think that was just in the single bed.
And I guess the issue is she doesn't want to share a double bed with him. Yeah Nathan will likely push this again / manipulation tactics.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Maru

I see it as her approaching the relationship with more sincerity in that she's leaving some things for the outside and not trying to make a show of it. That's more sincere than the direction he wants to go which is to have his way in front of the cameras. He's probably wanting max camera time as a couple. I don't think of Nathan as the most genuine of people in there and so I think even if she declined him, it potentially makes him look more authentic than he really is (his gameplan imo) towards her and the relationship. There's no real reason they need to share a bed so early on. I thought she was being pressured to prove her feelings too soon by sharing a bed and she should be allowed some modesty before the public. That is a major red flag. But, a good portion of me thinks they'll be sharing beds in a couple of days anyway because this type of manipulation used to work on BB in the past... I'm still hoping she sticks to her guns.

Maru. You're actually quite astute sometimes. Lol. Not meaning that in a bad way. You make some great points. NOBODY should feel under any kind of pressure to do something they aren't comfortable with. NOBODY. BP doesn't want to look like she's the one to spoil the party but sometimes you just have to call it out and say I'm not comfortable with that!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I definitely agree nobody should be pressured to share a bed , but I'm sure she was already laying beside him on occasions....but I think that was just in the single bed.
And I guess the issue is she doesn't want to share a double bed with him. Yeah Nathan will likely push this again / manipulation tactics.

Nathan just made it into a whole different thing. It made BP think about things differently. It's one thing sharing a bed but it becomes different depending on the relationship perspective. If you're not on the same page it could become difficult. And it's becoming awkward.

[arista]

Yes, can you trust Rosie?

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes, can you trust Rosie?

I'm not sure about her Arista. I always have said she's a crowd pleaser. I can't actually work her out sometimes. She's totally different to people I know. I like honesty but I'm not getting that from her. That's just my point of view. I can see things in her reactions but she just needs to find her voice.

[Cherie]

Nathan forcing the issue was very she said no......personally I dont know why she said no if she is invested in him, she is 29 years old I think she could lie in bed with someone she purports to fancy without it being sexual ....there is zero chemistry there...friends yes...chemistry no

[Ammi]

…oh that was so cringy and Nathan did not look ok at all with BP’s response…and I’m so glad that she’s staying true to her own housemate experience and not giving it to a showmance casting…so often, we do see housemates saying…no, when we get out and then by the end of the show they’re already sharing a bed and two have become one etc…for me, Nathan wouldn’t/wont pursue the bed thing further and put the whole romance on hold if he’s being true…we’ll see, hmmmmmmm…..

[Beso]

The romance is all BP has to show for her time in the house so far, shes been rather dull and bitchy apart from that. Unfortunatly I've fell out of love with her.

[Gusto Brunt]

Relationship? There isn't one. 100% fake.

[Vanessa]

Why was he insisting? She said no. She doesn't want to sleep on the same bed.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

I see it as her approaching the relationship with more sincerity in that she's leaving some things for the outside and not trying to make a show of it. That's more sincere than the direction he wants to go which is to have his way in front of the cameras. He's probably wanting max camera time as a couple. I don't think of Nathan as the most genuine of people in there and so I think even if she declined him, it potentially makes him look more authentic than he really is (his gameplan imo) towards her and the relationship. There's no real reason they need to share a bed so early on. I thought she was being pressured to prove her feelings too soon by sharing a bed and she should be allowed some modesty before the public. That is a major red flag. But, a good portion of me thinks they'll be sharing beds in a couple of days anyway because this type of manipulation used to work on BB in the past... I'm still hoping she sticks to her guns.

…I agree with this, Maru…and the thing with BB romances…whether they’re real of fake or for show and airtime or whatever…?…once you go there in terms of sharing a bed and establishing your ‘couple status’ etc…?…that’s then what you’ve become, this seasons showmance…I imagine it’s such a strange environment that feelings etc can get tangled and amplifies as well because the housemates become your temporary world…so stepping back from that with a romantic aspect and putting it on hold until your world becomes ‘normal’ again is the thing that makes sense…if Nathan’s feelings are real and true, he’ll be cold with that also…if he pushes…?…it’ll definitely feel like a storyline romance for him…

[joeysteele]

This is, ( in my view), one of the really false and unfortunately distracting in a negative way things about this series.
Which has overall been a really good one so far.

I just groan when the highlights contain their more likely acting of this showmance in the hope of airtime.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Why was he insisting? She said no. She doesn't want to sleep on the same bed.

Exactly
Seems a bit creepy if you ask me .

[Niamh.]

I thought it was also weird how, on L&L, they were almost making out BP was the bad guy there for saying she wasn't comfortable with that, wtf?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Exactly
Seems a bit creepy if you ask me .

He should have accepted it. This is going to put her off him.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I agree with this, Maru…and the thing with BB romances…whether they’re real of fake or for show and airtime or whatever…?…once you go there in terms of sharing a bed and establishing your ‘couple status’ etc…?…that’s then what you’ve become, this seasons showmance…I imagine it’s such a strange environment that feelings etc can get tangled and amplifies as well because the housemates become your temporary world…so stepping back from that with a romantic aspect and putting it on hold until your world becomes ‘normal’ again is the thing that makes sense…if Nathan’s feelings are real and true, he’ll be cold with that also…if he pushes…?…it’ll definitely feel like a storyline romance for him…

Seeing Emma and some of the others push them closer also made me realize that there is more pressure than we think for showmances to form. They get peppered questions in the DR and probably become the butt of every joke. So I can see why most showmances look so messy and forced, especially in the beginning, because they don't stand a chance of forming organically.

I can see also with the house being intense if maybe having a showmance can be seen as a way to pass the time and help with being forced to live with strangers, or so they think. So people may agree to things they normally wouldn't to keep disagreements down... being in the house is complicated enough being on their own.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I thought it was also weird how, on L&L, they were almost making out BP was the bad guy there for saying she wasn't comfortable with that, wtf?

Probably because nobody is buying into the showmance,but yeah like I said nobody should feel they have to share a bed . Also the fact Nathan is also trying to ' schedule ' kisses and is pushing the bed thing ,makes it more controlling and not organic at all.

If 2 people like eachother in a romantic way ....they don't behave this way ,with or without cameras.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

Seeing Emma and some of the others push them closer also made me realize that there is more pressure than we think for showmances to form. They get peppered questions in the DR and probably become the butt of every joke. So I can see why most showmances look so messy and forced, especially in the beginning, because they don't stand a chance of forming organically.

I can see also with the house being intense if maybe having a showmance can be seen as a way to pass the time and help with being forced to live with strangers, or so they think. So people may agree to things they normally wouldn't to keep disagreements down... being in the house is complicated enough being on their own.

…I was thinking earlier as well …and I honestly can’t recall back in the day BB, whether house romances had any encouragement from BB and also on the after show, if they were championed there as something that was hoped for…whether this BB seems to really gravitate more towards wanting them…(…actually I’m specifically thinking more about the after show…)…because they’re also the Love Island people …so they love to find love in the air, love is their thing……just a thought…

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Probably because nobody is buying into the showmance,but yeah like I said nobody should feel they have to share a bed . Also the fact Nathan is also trying to ' schedule ' kisses and is pushing the bed thing ,makes it more controlling and not organic at all.

If 2 people like eachother in a romantic way ....they don't behave this way ,with or without cameras.

Yeah, he's either really trying to push this showmance for airtime or he's really into to her and is being waaaaaay too pushy. I feel like it's probably the first one but either way it's not nice to try and push that.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I thought it was also weird how, on L&L, they were almost making out BP was the bad guy there for saying she wasn't comfortable with that, wtf?

That one guy on the very right of the 3 guests was a complete tool Just saying sensational crap to make it like he was some kind of romance/relationship expert. It was very bad acting and the guilt tripping was pure cringe. I really considered turning it off and just missing out on spoilers. I might if they keep pushing the showmances too much.