*The Official BB14 Ratings Thread*

[*mazedsalv**]

It's that time of the year again to start a new ratings thread as the launch date should be released later today when the schedule is out. Here we will discuss the ratings across the entire series and make comparisons to previous years.

We won't know until later what competition it faces, but if we are to believe that it launches on the 13th June. Here are the overnight ratings of the last two regular series:
BB12- 2.6m
BB13- 2.7m

I reckon it could reach 3m with the new presenter, ad campaign and changes. Let's not forget that CBB11 finished with 3.61m officially. How do you think it will rate? Up or down on BB12-BB13? Down on CBB11 launch?

[Jarrod]

I think we could just about get a 3 Million rating for the launch... just.

[DigitalSid]

Couldn't this have waited till the schedules are out later? We can't predict anything with any accuracy without knowing what it's up against, so the first two pages are just going to be the usual tedious blind guesses based on nothing.

[Headie]

Well considering it's only competition of the night is the premiere of Britain & Ireland's Next Top Model, it should get high ratings. I doubt that the majority of BB fans are also B&INTM fans too (although I am a fan of both) so it should get a strong viewing figure for Launch Night.

[*mazedsalv**]

Couldn't this have waited till the schedules are out later? We can't predict anything with any accuracy without knowing what it's up against, so the first two pages are just going to be the usual tedious blind guesses based on nothing.

I don't have time later to make the thread. I wanted to get the thread the closest it could be to the schedule being released.

[Jack_]

Woo it's that time of year again :D

[DigitalSid]

I don't have time later to make the thread. I wanted to get the thread the closest it could be to the schedule being released.

It's no big deal, just makes finding post-schedule predictions (with everyone making two, three if the schedule changes) and the first set of ratings later in the series a pain in the arse.

[Sawyer]

Salv, don't spose you could recap all the c5 official ratings in the op, do ya? Lol.. The last Cbb was the highest rated c5 series wasn't it?

[JohnnyBB]

If Channel 4 Dares puts a movie against it :devil:

[Jack_]

I'm thinking 2.8m.

[Drew.]

3.2m

[DigitalSid]

Salv, don't spose you could recap all the c5 official ratings in the op, do ya? Lol.. The last Cbb was the highest rated c5 series wasn't it?

Launch:
CBB8 - 5.1m
BB12 - 2.77m
CBB9 - 3.6m
BB13 - 2.93m
CBB10 - 2.96m
CBB11 - 3.83m

Averages:
CBB8 - 2.8m
BB12 - 1.6m
CBB9 - 2.6m
BB13 - 1.8m
CBB10 - 2.2m
CBB11 - 2.81m

[*mazedsalv**]

Salv, don't spose you could recap all the c5 official ratings in the op, do ya? Lol.. The last Cbb was the highest rated c5 series wasn't it?

CBB8- 2.8m
BB12- 1.6m
CBB9- 2.6m
BB13- 1.8m
CBB10- 2.3m
CBB11- 2.8m
BB14- ?? (if it gets a 3m launch, I predict around 1.9-2.1m official).

Basically CBB11 was the best rated on Ch5 even though CBB8 also got 2.8m, BUT the launch figure for CBB8 bumped the average. So in terms of officials excl launch, CBB11 was the most popular. Good sign for BB14?

[Sawyer]

CBB8- 2.8m
BB12- 1.6m
CBB9- 2.6m
BB13- 1.8m
CBB10- 2.3m
CBB11- 2.8m
BB14- ?? (if it gets a 3m launch, I predict around 1.9-2.1m official).

Basically CBB11 was the best rated on Ch5 even though CBB8 also got 2.8m, BUT the launch figure for CBB8 bumped the average. So in terms of officials excl launch, CBB11 was the most popular. Good sign for BB14?

Quite impressive ratings tbf, hopefully bb14 will improve slightly on bb13. If it can do that then we will have another likely renewal the end of next year.

[DigitalSid]

Quite impressive ratings tbf, hopefully bb14 will improve slightly on bb13. If it can do that then we will have another likely renewal the end of next year.

CBB's have, BB's have been much lower than it could be getting.

[Sawyer]

CBB's have, BB's have been much lower than it could be getting.

If they promoted bb in the same was as Cbb, they could get alot more.

[DigitalSid]

If they promoted bb in the same was as Cbb, they could get alot more.

I don't think the promotion is the full story, but it's a part of it.

[Sawyer]

I don't think the promotion is the full story, but it's a part of it.

I genuinely think have a competent host will help things too.

[DigitalSid]

I genuinely think have a competent host will help things too.

Emma should be a draw, she trended every eviction night.

[Sawyer]

Emma should be a draw, she trended every eviction night.

Can't wait to see her in action.

Make of that what you will haha.

[DigitalSid]

Can't wait to see her in action.

Make of that what you will haha.

Same :laugh:.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Awww my favourite thread.

Its like Christmas lol

[DigitalSid]

14th June confirmed, 9pm Launch, 10:30pm BOTS, 11:30pm 30 minutes live streaming. Current competition:

BBC 1 -
9:00pm - Miranda
10:00pm - BBC News
10:25pm - Regional News
10:30pm - Weather
10:35pm - The Graham Norton Show
11:25pm - Dinner for Schmucks

BBC 2 -
9:00pm - The Time Traveller's Guide to Elizabethan England
10:00pm - QI
10:30pm - Newsnight
11:00pm - Weather
11:05pm - The Breakfast Club

itv -
9:00pm - Britain's Secret Homes
10:00pm - ITV News at Ten and Weather
10:35pm - Inland Empire

Channel 4 -
9:00pm - To be Announced
11:00pm - Random Acts
11:05pm - To be Announced
12:05am - 10 O'Clock Live

itv2 -
9:00pm - American Pie: The Wedding
9:55pm - FYI Daily
10:00pm - American Pie: The Wedding
11:00pm - Celebrity Juice
11:45pm - Celebrity Juice

BBC 3 -
9:00pm - Russell Howard's Good News Extra
9:45pm - Sweat the Small Stuff
10:30pm - EastEnders
11:00pm - Family Guy
11:22pm - Family Guy
11:45pm - American Dad!

E4 -
9:00pm - To be Announced
11:00pm - The Big Bang Theory
11:30pm - The Big Bang Theory

[Jack_]

Miranda could be disastrous for the launch :o is it a repeat?

[Black Dagger]

If that is a repeat for Miranda then meh. But eeek if it's a new episode.

[DigitalSid]

Miranda could be disastrous for the launch :o is it a repeat?

Both Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys are repeats. Not sure how they rate for repeats, don't pay attention to shows I don't watch.

[Jack_]

I hope they make the live feed an hour too. BOTS has finished at 00:15 and 00:30 before (and so have other shows, or even later) pushing the start of SuperCasino further back, so it'd be nice if they could extend the streaming and start SuperCasino at 00:30, or even better...01:00.

I'm happy we've at least got some on launch night though.

[Jack_]

Both Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys are repeat. Not sure how they rate for repeats, don't pay attention to shows I don't watch.

Hm, repeats might be a bit safer but I'm like you, I'm not really sure how the repeats rate although I've heard they can pull in a solid and respectable number. I don't know, might not be a risk worth taking.

[DigitalSid]

Should point out these are only the provisional schedules, finalised ones aren't decided till tomorrow lunch time. If C5 deem Friday unsafe they'll probably move it to Thursday, which has much ****ter competition, with only Russell Howard's Good News being new and for a similar audience.

[Jack_]

What's scheduled for Thursday at the moment?

[DigitalSid]

What's scheduled for Thursday at the moment?

BBC 1 -
9:00pm - Life Savers
10:00pm - BBC News
10:25pm - Regional News
10:30pm - Weather
10:35pm - Question Time
11:35pm - This Week

BBC 2 -
9:00pm - Horizon
10:00pm - Mock the Week
10:30pm - Newsnight
11:20pm - The Tudors

C4 -
9:00pm - To be Announced
10:00pm - To be Announced
11:00pm - Random Acts
11:05pm - 24 Hours in A and E

itv2 -
9:00pm - Uncle Buck
10:00pm - Lemon La Vida Loca
10:50pm - Celebrity Juice
11:35pm - Fake Reaction

BBC 3 -
9:00pm - Sun, Sex and Suspicious Parents
10:00pm - Russell Howard's Good News
10:30pm - EastEnders
11:00pm - Family Guy
11:22pm - Family Guy
11:45pm - American Dad!

E4 -
9:00pm - To be Announced
9:30pm - 2 Broke Girls
10:00pm - To be Announced
11:00pm - Fresh Meat
11:45pm - The Big Bang Theory

[Headie]

Out of curiosity... what shows are scheduled for Friday now that we know BB will probably launch then???

[DigitalSid]

Out of curiosity... what shows are scheduled for Friday now that we know BB will probably launch then???

See a few posts back.

[Headie]

See a few posts back.

Ah, sorry. I didn't see that before.

Doesn't look like much competition for BB then.

[DigitalSid]

Ah, sorry. I didn't see that before.

Doesn't look like much competition for BB then.

Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys might be a problem (though repeats), if they don't move it to the 13th in the finalised schedule out tomorrow.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They are nuts to launch on a Friday.

Really stupid decision.

There is literally no competition on Thursday they could have big numbers tuning in.

[Samm]

Friday and Thursday or safe I think Miranda and Mrs brown boys are repeats they don't get a lot of ratings and people will watch big brother this year I think CBB11 did well on the finale and If they do a lot of advertising these next two weeks they could get a lot of ratings and I am not worried about C4 there ratings have fallen since BB.

Also C5 big brother ratings have improved every year

[jackc1806]

I think they'll move it to the 13th, they could be trying to bluff C4 into putting nothing on Thursday then switch last minute?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Its the fact that the first highlights will be shown on Saturday which is BB's lowest rated night which makes this a dumb decision.

[*mazedsalv**]

Its the fact that the first highlights will be shown on Saturday which is BB's lowest rated night which makes this a dumb decision.

I agree. Thursday will be a much better decision.

[SSL2012]

C4 playing it rather cunningly I see...

[DigitalSid]

I think they'll move it to the 13th, they could be trying to bluff C4 into putting nothing on Thursday then switch last minute?

It's happened before, we'll find out tomorrow lunch time.

[ruiphillips]

Friday and Thursday or safe I think Miranda and Mrs brown boys are repeats they don't get a lot of ratings and people will watch big brother this year I think CBB11 did well on the finale and If they do a lot of advertising these next two weeks they could get a lot of ratings and I am not worried about C4 there ratings have fallen since BB.

Also C5 big brother ratings have improved every year

Mrs brown boys usually gets over 4 million for repeats :cloud:

[DigitalSid]

Finalised schedules officially confirm a two part launch split between Thursday the 13th and Friday the 14th of June 9-10:30pm. Full schedule and details here:
http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb14/news/0529/big-brother-2013-secrets-and-lies-launch-date-confirmed

[Jack_]

Will be interesting to see if Friday's launch can build on Thursday's, if the twist or whatever is enough to bring viewers back the next night.

[*mazedsalv**]

Random prediction...

3.2m for Thursday. 2.5m for Friday (tougher competition). What do you think?

[DigitalSid]

Random prediction...

3.2m for Thursday. 2.5m for Friday (tougher competition). What do you think?

I'm going to be cautious and predict 3m for the first show, but with such crap competition, 3.2m wouldn't surprise me.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm going to be cautious and predict 3m for the first show, but with such crap competition, 3.2m wouldn't surprise me.

Yes, hopefully it can hit that 3m. Would be a great start anyway, 300-400k above BB12-BB13 launches.

[Sawyer]

About time this got stickied!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

About time this got stickied!

I know!

I said this last year and got so much abuse saying it would clutter the forum :rolleyes: its an important part of BB and is discussed everyday for 3 months.

Anyway I think the launch will reach 3 million, part 2 will be around 2.3.

Hoping for a series average of 2.1 but thinking its going to be around the 1.9 mark.

[*mazedsalv**]

Just saw an advert 2 mins ago (after Neighbours) and it's good to see now they already say the date, and not just "Coming soon".

[DigitalSid]

Just saw an advert 2 mins ago (after Neighbours) and it's good to see now they already say the date, and not just "Coming soon".

Don't they always update it pretty quickly after the date comes out? Btw, they promoting both dates or just the 13th, not important I know as the second will be mentioned during the first, just wondering.

[Jarrod]

Don't they always update it pretty quickly after the date comes out? Btw, they promoting both dates or just the 13th, not important I know as the second will be mentioned during the first, just wondering.

Usually it takes them a few days.

[*mazedsalv**]

Don't they always update it pretty quickly after the date comes out? Btw, they promoting both dates or just the 13th, not important I know as the second will be mentioned during the first, just wondering.

They said just the Thursday, but if they don;t advertise Friday on ads, I am pretty sure they will on billboards and if not, it's clear it will be mentioned lots of times by Emma during the first launch.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So is part 2 up against The Voice live shows which is also being filmed in the George Lucas studios just to the side of the BB house? lol

PS mods

STICKY THIS THREAD FFS!

[Mrmattybeck]

i really think bb could hit 3m with hardly any competition its got a very good chance

[@bbuk_fans]

I think it'll rate pretty well tbh,I think it will definitely will be the top rated show in it's slot. Bugger all on other channels!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No promo really though.

Dunno.

CBB11 did shockingly well so.

Fingers crossed it hits 3 million.

Anything below 2.5 would be disasterous for a launch.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ps.

Sticky this thread ffs.

[@bbuk_fans]

No promo really though.

Dunno.

CBB11 did shockingly well so.

Fingers crossed it hits 3 million.

Anything below 2.5 would be disasterous for a launch.

True, but the scheduling will run in it's favour, with people channel flicking, then sticking around on channel 5, as they realise there is nothing major on other channels

I think, like last launch, it will be the most watched show for 16-34 demographic

[*mazedsalv**]

I predict 3.1m.

[Headie]

So is part 2 up against The Voice live shows which is also being filmed in the George Lucas studios just to the side of the BB house? lol

PS mods

STICKY THIS THREAD FFS!

I don't think The Voice live shows are on every Friday. They return back to Saturday next week. They're only doing it on this Friday because of the BGT final on Saturday.

The only competition for Part 2 is The Million Pound Drop launch on the Friday.

[Sawyer]

Can this be stickied please?

[Me. I Am Salman]

3.52 for the launch
1.9 for the series average
And 2.6 for the final :spin:

[Patrick]

You know it's Summer when Salv makes this thread. :lovedup:

[Patrick]

I don't think The Voice live shows are on every Friday. They return back to Saturday next week. They're only doing it on this Friday because of the BGT final on Saturday.

The only competition for Part 2 is The Million Pound Drop launch on the Friday.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

3.52 for the launch
1.9 for the series average
And 2.6 for the final :spin:

With such high launch and finale figures I cant see how you could work an average of 1.9?

PLEASE STICKY THIS THREAD

[Pronshi]

Launch: 2.7-3.3 Million. Don't see it getting higher than 3 million.
Average: 1.6-1.8 million. High at start then falls towards end.
Final: 1.9-2.4 Million. Peaking at 10:05pm.

[DigitalSid]

Launch: 3 million (Provided we don't have some freak heatwave)
Average: 2m (Provided 'Secrets & Lies' stops the first highlights show bombing too badly on Saturday)
Finale: 2.5m (Provided the series doesn't dive off a cliff mid way through like BB7 did, it didn't effect that but BB was a bigger brand then, people would have been more willing to persevere)

[DigitalSid]

Launch: 3 million (Provided we don't have some freak heatwave)
Average: 2m (Provided 'Secrets & Lies' stops the first highlights show bombing too badly on Saturday)
Finale: 2.5m (Provided the series doesn't dive off a cliff mid way through like BB7 did, it didn't effect that but BB was a bigger brand then, people would have been more willing to persevere)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Launch: 3 million (Provided we don't have some freak heatwave)
Average: 2m (Provided 'Secrets & Lies' stops the first highlights show bombing too badly on Saturday)
Finale: 2.5m (Provided the series doesn't dive off a cliff mid way through like BB7 did, it didn't effect that but BB was a bigger brand then, people would have been more willing to persevere)

Really?

Even when the BB13 finale only got 1.76 and even CBB10 only managed 2.18?

Cant see that myself.

Hoping you're right though.

[DigitalSid]

Really?

Even when the BB13 finale only got 1.76 and even CBB10 only managed 2.18?

Cant see that myself.

Hoping you're right though.

They really did badly didn't they? That BB13 rating is less than the (official) series average, was it up against anything big? Probably being a little bit optimistic and ambitious with the finale, I'm basing on the assumption that this series will be as good as it's being built up to be and thus won't reflect the last generi-series and the 2 million average being maintained throughout, as the nightly shows tend (I think) to be few hundred k below the amount watching throughout due to some not watching some days and others not watching others. I do think it's possible, I know they're not really comparable but CBB11 ended on far higher than it's series average, but 2.3 is probably more likely.

[*mazedsalv**]

We have to keep in mind that now most have Ch5+1 and more people recording it, the overnights could be around BB13 levels, but the officials could add a fair bit (look at how CBB11 added around 400-600k every night on timeshift). So overall it should be higher than BB12/BB13 in general. Also Ch5 have been doing better in 2013. Just look at CSI nearly breaking 2m incl +1.

Overnights prediction:

Launch (1)- 3.1m
Launch (2)- 2.5m
Final- 2.2m
Average- 2.0m

[*mazedsalv**]

They really did badly didn't they? That BB13 rating is less than the (official) series average, was it up against anything big? Probably being a little bit optimistic and ambitious with the finale, I'm basing on the assumption that this series will be as good as it's being built up to be and thus won't reflect the last generi-series and the 2 million average being maintained throughout, as the nightly shows tend (I think) to be few hundred k above the amount watching throughout due to some not watching some days and others not watching others. I do think it's possible, I know they're not really comparable but CBB11 ended on far higher than it's series average, but 2.3 is probably more likely.

Momentum is the factor. BB13 was unlucky to be against the Olympics/Euro and numerous other events. The closing ceremony was on during the last HL show. The final was the day after and people may have completely forgotten about it. A HL show beat the final only a 3-4 weeks before.

I think CBB11 was a blip. It did surprisingly well, probably helped by the 2 most entertaining getting to the final 2 and the snowy weather.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Momentum is the factor. BB13 was unlucky to be against the Olympics/Euro and numerous other events. The closing ceremony was on during the last HL show. The final was the day after and people may have completely forgotten about it. A HL show beat the final only a 3-4 weeks before.

I think CBB11 was a blip. It did surprisingly well, probably helped by the 2 most entertaining getting to the final 2 and the snowy weather.

That's not very promising is it lol.

[*mazedsalv**]

That's not very promising is it lol.

Lol I know. That day was the lowest ever rating ever (even counting BBCH) because of the ceremony. I think it got like 400k or something.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I can already see it. daniel-lewis will complain about the ratings and Salv will find a way to make them look good :laugh:

[zakman440]

So is part 2 up against The Voice live shows which is also being filmed in the George Lucas studios just to the side of the BB house? lol

PS mods

STICKY THIS THREAD FFS!

THe Voice live shows aren't at Elstree this year, they're at Pinewood Studios.

[*mazedsalv**]

I can already see it. daniel-lewis will complain about the ratings and Salv will find a way to make them look good :laugh:

All I will do is compare with the regular series. I'll try not to be too positive ;)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I can already see it. daniel-lewis will complain about the ratings and Salv will find a way to make them look good :laugh:

We have a healthy relationship when it comes to the ratings thread lol.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think that new Reality style show "Happy Familys" could actually be some competition for BB.

[Samm]

I think that new Reality style show "Happy Familys" could actually be some competition for BB.

When does that air

[daniel-lewis-1985]

When does that air

Same time as BB Launch.

Thursday 13th, 9pm on ITV.

Their promotion alone has been seen by millions more people with some simple ads on a prime time channel.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think that new Reality style show "Happy Familys" could actually be some competition for BB.

Hopefully not too much. It seems like a show which would get around 3m.

[DigitalSid]

a few hundred k below the average*

Momentum is the factor. BB13 was unlucky to be against the Olympics/Euro and numerous other events. The closing ceremony was on during the last HL show. The final was the day after and people may have completely forgotten about it. A HL show beat the final only a 3-4 weeks before
Forgot about the Olympics, that said I don't think BB12's finale didn't that much better, they don't seem to rate well in general these days.
I think CBB11 was a blip. It did surprisingly well, probably helped by the 2 most entertaining getting to the final 2 and the snowy weather.
Well it wasn't the housemate selection was it :laugh:.

[*mazedsalv**]

BB12 final bounced up more than BB13. BB12 final got 2.1m overnights, sadly BB13 got 1.7m or something.

[DigitalSid]

BB12 final bounced up more than BB13. BB12 final got 2.1m overnights, sadly BB13 got 1.7m or something.

Then perhaps I wasn't as over-predicting the finale as I thought. What was the overnight average for BB12 again? 1.4mish?

[*mazedsalv**]

Then perhaps I wasn't as over-predicting the finale as I thought. What was the overnight average for BB12 again? 1.4mish?

Overnight was 1.4m or 1.5m, it only went up 100k-200k in the officials. But when you compare that to CBB11, it time shifted over 500k in officials.

I think we will see big time shift boosts for BB14.

[*mazedsalv**]

I posted this on DS, please, I hope some people agree with me. In response to someone saying that people didn't know it was back.

if people were really fans, they must know that it's back. It's been on every summer for 13 years, you would think that they aren't that slow to understand that. Doesn't take a lot to look at a TV magazine. On Ch5 it's been promoted very, very well. It's just a shame Ch5 is not the most watched channel. Twitter is buzzing at the moment surrounding it. Also Facebook. But a I said some people are very slow and quite thick. Some people asking on FB, "when does this start" just underneath a "2 days to go" video. I mean, seriously.

[Gstar]

I posted this on DS, please, I hope some people agree with me. In response to someone saying that people didn't know it was back.

if people were really fans, they must know that it's back. It's been on every summer for 13 years, you would think that they aren't that slow to understand that. Doesn't take a lot to look at a TV magazine. On Ch5 it's been promoted very, very well. It's just a shame Ch5 is not the most watched channel. Twitter is buzzing at the moment surrounding it. Also Facebook. But a I said some people are very slow and quite thick. Some people asking on FB, "when does this start" just underneath a "2 days to go" video. I mean, seriously.

lmaooooooooo, facebook has the most atrocious bb fans

[daniel-lewis-1985]

To be fair I have mates on facebook who actually ask me when BB's back on.

If they aren't on the forum and theres virtually no ad campaign how are they expected to know its back?

[*mazedsalv**]

To be fair I have mates on facebook who actually ask me when BB's back on.

If they aren't on the forum and theres virtually no ad campaign how are they expected to know its back?

Fair enough if they don't have the BB page liked, but for those who do, there shouldn't be an excuse. They upload the how many days there is to go ad, but even underneath those videos, people still ask when it's coming back!

Also Dan, if you can, can you FB chat me when the ratings come in? I will be at work and can only really check my FB because it's faster to load than here or DS.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Fair enough if they don't have the BB page liked, but for those who do, there shouldn't be an excuse. They upload the how many days there is to go ad, but even underneath those videos, people still ask when it's coming back!

Yeah that's actually ridiculous.

But the BB facebook page only has about 250k likes yeah so anyone outside that would literally be relying on word of mouth to know when the series is back.

Channel 5 have done an amazing job of the house but their promotion has been shocking.

Like I said on DS BB is back in 52 hours and not 1 advert has been advertised outside Channel 5.

This is why the summer CBB do poor aswell to be fair so you would think they would advertise the civilian one to get ratings for both.

Shocking.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Dearest mods,

Can you please sticky this thread.

Kisses XxXx

[neneu10]

3.7 m

[Benjamin]

Dearest mods,

Can you please sticky this thread.

Kisses XxXx

I've added it to the BB14 thread finder thread (that is stickied).

[Rob!]

What do we predict tonight then peeps? Is 3 million optimistic?

[Jake.]

I reckon 3.1 or so million for the launch
2.0 for the average
2.2 for the finale

[Benjamin]

2.9 for the launch.

[Samm]

3.5

[Jake.]

I'm thinking that the whole 'secrets & lies' theme and the fact she was on BBCRadio 1 might push it to around the 3 million mark

[Fingerprints101]

So how do we think it went?

I'm hoping at least 3 million but expecting 2.5...

[Drew.]

think i predicted 3.2m a while back

[Jack_]

Before the show started due to the lack of promo I was thinking and dreading around 1.8m - 2.2m

But during the show and even after it it's been trending and even Moyles was watching it (and other people I follow too, both celebrities and people I know that wouldn't usually), I think Emma's the main draw. Taking all that into account I'd love a 3m+ rating but I'm gonna be realistic and say 2.4m - 2.8m.

[Jords]

3m would be good.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Praying for 3 million but thinking it could be about 2.5 tbh.

I don't know how this 2 night launch thing is going to work.

[jyunga]

Ratings thread. 5 pages. Not a single rating :|

[DigitalSid]

Ratings thread. 5 pages. Not a single rating :|

The first one's out to subscribers at 9:30, we'll probably have it by 9:40.

[*mazedsalv**]

I hope it hits 3m! At one point, 7 related BBUK things were trending, BBUK and Emma Willis were trending still up until only a few hours ago. Also, Big Brother is STILL trending right now.

[g17m]

on mine, Big Brother, and #bbuk are still trending! 3M would be great!

[@bbuk_fans]

According to this guy on twitter, 2.13m

@CameronYardeJnr: .@TVKev 2.13m for Big Brother last night. #BBUK

Ouch.

Edit: Kevin seems unimpressed with Big Brother, he said he didn't like emma :O

[Black Dagger]

Oh dear.

[Sawyer]

This is what happens when the show doesn't get promoted.

[Gypsy]

Wow those ratings aren't too good :o Only if it had been promoted better, I thought it was one of the best launches for a few years

[DigitalSid]

According to this guy on twitter, 2.13m

@CameronYardeJnr: .@TVKev 2.13m for Big Brother last night. #BBUK

Ouch.

Edit: Kevin seems unimpressed with Big Brother, he said he didn't like emma :O

Wow that's bad, worst main series launch yet. Unless it has some amazing retention or surge of interest now, that's this series chances of averaging better than the last two's gone. This is why C5 should be focusing it's promotion budget on the main series and not the celebrity one, the celebrity series doesn't need it, the main series obviously does.

I was a little worried when I saw Horizon outrend it first the first hour, but having a different audience (or so I thought) I didn't think it would dent BB as much as it did.

[Benjamin]

Ohh, not good if those figures are true. I actually enjoyed the launch, one of the better ones over the last few years.

[Jake.]

If true, that's bloody awful

[DigitalSid]

It's true.

[Benjamin]

Oh, that's a shame. It's not a reflection on Emma or the housemates though, it's a reflection on the piss poor promotion of it.

[The_Big_Send_Off]

i guess this could be the last 'normal' series :'(

[Jake.]

What a shame... still, they only have themselves to blame

[DigitalSid]

Horizon: The Secret Life Of Cats won the slot with 4.9m. No, seriously. Thanks lolcats :laugh:. But on a more serious note, pray for a huge retention or next year is the last of the main series. Tonight's won't do any better against Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys, they're repeats but they still rate brilliantly.

[Marcus.]

fingers crossed

[Jamesy]

Do C5 do what other channels do and have a 'final' rating later on?

So this one is the 'overnight' rating and then the 'final' rating includes on demand views and those who re-watched it.

BBC do that and they always have a huge boost of numbers from the overnight to the final ratings.

[Benjamin]

It lost out to cats. Are you kidding me. Sooty I blame you for this. :nono:

[Jake.]

Them bloody cats :laugh:

[DigitalSid]

Do C5 do what other channels do and have a 'final' rating later on?

So this one is the 'overnight' rating and then the 'final' rating includes on demand views and those who re-watched it.

BBC do that and they always have a huge boost of numbers from the overnight to the final ratings.

Final ratings don't mean much to reality shows, advertising is sold on overnight viewers not catch up viewers who don't see them.

[Benjamin]

I've added this thread to the BB14 thread finder to make it easier to locate.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Unless this series builds we are fooked for the civilian edition from now on.

Enjoy it whilst you still can.

Imagine Channel 5 think its due to taking the show back to basics and go all out TOWIE style again.

[ThisIsNickkk]

Lowest ever launch figure. Such a shame, but, where was the big promo? TV and billboards?

[Jack_]

That rating is due to the lack of promotion, they have themselves to blame. Spend all the money on changing it up and don't promote it...I mean that's just foolish.

[Jake.]

Wonder how last night fared

[ruiphillips]

Wonder how last night fared

I'd say Live Launch Part 2 pulled in about 1.70-80 million viewers. It would be great if it could rise from Thursdays launch. But, I'm doubtful that it will.

[Sawyer]

@iSamHarrington: Big Brother peaked at 2.36 million yesterday with a 12.6% share. Average similar to launch part 1, slight improvement though.

[jackc1806]

@iSamHarrington: Big Brother peaked at 2.36 million yesterday with a 12.6% share. Average similar to launch part 1, slight improvement though.

Good it didn't bomb

[Samm]

@iSamHarrington: Big Brother peaked at 2.36 million yesterday with a 12.6% share. Average similar to launch part 1, slight improvement though.

Hopefully it will improve as the series goes on

[*mazedsalv**]

Want to know the average. Should be around the same as Thursday.

[*mazedsalv**]

2.11m (10.6%) for last night. Brilliant hold on to the audience from Thursday.

[RichardG]

Any news on what the 5* LF ratings were?

[Raph]

Yay that's great news, at least it still stayed above 2M.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Me interested in LF tbh

[Fingerprints101]

Was it 2.11m with or without +1?

[Jake.]

At least it held

[*mazedsalv**]

Was it 2.11m with or without +1?

With. So far then...

Launch (1)- 2.13m
Launch (2)- 2.11m

Considering it was on a Friday, which has more of the audience out and against MPD. It held much better than I thought.

BUT, it's Saturday tonight... we know the ratings will be very low.

[oathbreaker]

With. So far then...

Launch (1)- 2.13m
Launch (2)- 2.11m

Considering it was on a Friday, which has more of the audience out and against MPD. It held much better than I thought.

BUT, it's Saturday tonight... we know the ratings will be very low.

could be mind this series will just keep a stable number.
one things certain the drama of the show dropping 2 million viewers after the launch might be avoided.

I just hope the live feed has done okay..I still cant believe it was being showed online also they kept that blooming quiet!!!

[Jake.]

But yeah, tonight won't be great but I can see viewers sticking with it this time, perhaps an average of 1.7 or something

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I literally thought it was only going to get about 1.7 so pleasantly surprised.

Last night didn't seem like another launch so im not really treating it as such therefor it doesn't seem like such a bomb lol.

The good thing is the casual viewer would usually have switched off after Thursday after seeing who was going in but they either came back or BB has a stable audience of 2 million people who will allways watch.

Would be brilliant if tonight could get around 1.6 but I think it will be below the 1 million mark.

Anyone know what BOTS and live feed got?

[Samm]

I literally thought it was only going to get about 1.7 so pleasantly surprised.

Last night didn't seem like another launch so im not really treating it as such therefor it doesn't seem like such a bomb lol.

The good thing is the casual viewer would usually have switched off after Thursday after seeing who was going in but they either came back or BB has a stable audience of 2 million people who will allways watch.

Would be brilliant if tonight could get around 1.6 but I think it will be below the 1 million mark.

Anyone know what BOTS and live feed got?

I don't think it will go below the 1 million mark today BB has only gone down into the million mark 2 time's I think the first one was BB12 I think and the 2nd one was BB13 because of the Olympics opining. BB has not got alto of competition today the S*** voice is on at 7 I think

And it will be great if the series average was 2 million

[*mazedsalv**]

I think the two launches can tomeshift a massive number. The time shifts for Channel 5 are getting bigger and bigger. CBB11 was adding around 800k to some of their shows! The 2 launches could be at around 2.6m-2.7m officially.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I don't think it will go below the 1 million mark today BB has only gone down into the million mark 2 time's I think the first one was BB12 I think and the 2nd one was BB13 because of the Olympics opining. BB has not got alto of competition today the S*** voice is on at 7 I think

And it will be great if the series average was 2 million

There is no way the series will average 2 million.

For that to happen it would have to get 2 million per episode or higher seeing as launch only got 2.13.

Tonight is a Saturday which is allways the lowest rated episode and im expecting a drop off after launch so its very possible it could dip below 1 million.

[*mazedsalv**]

There is no way the series will average 2 million.

For that to happen it would have to get 2 million per episode or higher seeing as launch only got 2.13.

Tonight is a Saturday which is allways the lowest rated episode and im expecting a drop off after launch so its very possible it could dip below 1 million.

Or it could get 1.6m overnight to get 2m officially. I think 1.6m overnights could be doable if people stick to it.

[Samm]

There is no way the series will average 2 million.

For that to happen it would have to get 2 million per episode or higher seeing as launch only got 2.13.

Tonight is a Saturday which is allways the lowest rated episode and im expecting a drop off after launch so its very possible it could dip below 1 million.

Ok but It won't dip below 1 million

[Jamesy]

I highly doubt it will dip below 1 million.

Since being on C5 the show has hovered just above 1 million each night for a highlights show. So hopefully the same shall continue this year.

[DigitalSid]

Hopefully being billed as Big Brother Secrets & Lies in the sky epg (and I assume others?) will make people think tonight's is not a standard highlights show and lessen the usual Saturday drop this first week.

[Gstar]

Where's all the live feed and bots figures?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Where's all the live feed and bots figures?

That's what im wondering.

[oathbreaker]

Live feed got 70k viewers last night from 7/9pm I fully expect they will axe it.
As I tried to tell Frow that time slot was never going to work and you saw his reply that's all he was willing to give. Was never going to muster the numbers say a much later slot would get.

that being said if 70.000 people bought a season pass at 20.00 they really saying it wouldn't work online?

the promotion has been terrible I truly didn't even know it was being streamed online also.

[Jamesy]

They should do what C4 did with the final series of BB. Have 24/7 feed online. Do something at the start like 100 free 'season' passes and then charge a season pass at £10-£20 a go. Would probably work far more in their favour than putting 2 hour feed on tv does.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

what does 5* usually get in that time slot?

[Gstar]

Up against all the soaps it could have been worse

[oathbreaker]

what does 5* usually get in that time slot?

between 150k/290k

its not good but I fully expected it. when I saw the time slot they had given the feed my heart sunk because I know a later slot would be giving 5* some of its best ratings.

Okay C5 never wanted a 24hr feed but this time slot comes across more as burying the feed issue once and for all.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

**** that's bad.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So what did live feed at 11:30 get?

[oathbreaker]

**** that's bad.

in the old C4 days they threw numbers of 34k around...
that's when it all came out those numbers were taken from really early hours of the morning.

[oathbreaker]

So what did live feed at 11:30 get?

I suspect its going to be a tale of two halves

[*mazedsalv**]

I am sure the late night LF did much better. Over 200k I presume.

Also for those who wanted to know... Round 1 win goes to Emma against Davina.
Million Pound Drop returned with 1.67m.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I am sure the late night LF did much better. Over 200k I presume.

Also for those who wanted to know... Round 1 win goes to Emma against Davina.
Million Pound Drop returned with 1.67m.

That's good for million pound drop though isn't it I thought it would rate lower.

When do we get the ratings for BOTS?

[oathbreaker]

I am sure the late night LF did much better. Over 200k I presume.

Also for those who wanted to know... Round 1 win goes to Emma against Davina.
Million Pound Drop returned with 1.67m.

think the late night 30 mins will get over 350k again this is the annoying part its almost like they are scared to admit people prefer the feed to BOTS.

[JohnnyBB]

the only good news weve had is that there wasn't a massive dip last night that would have killed any chance this series had and tonight saturday i think we'll be suprised raitings could well hold to 2 mllion. fingers crossed.

[*mazedsalv**]

People on DS saying that LF later got around 400k again.

[Jack_]

These ratings just make me depressed :( that 5* figure is awful but what do they expect when there's been no ad for it or even any mention of it on the live shows (and I actually think it's deliberate so they can turn around and go 'we told you so'). I'm pretty sure it'll be axed in a couple of weeks if it continues and that will **** me off to no end, there was no promise that the two hours would be for the entire series regardless was there? So I'm sure when the next schedules come out it'll either be reduced or axed, UGH.

I'm so disappointed with the launches ratings too but again with no promo and it'll likely be saved for the millionth series of CBB what the ****ing hell do you ****ing expect? So no doubt either next years civilain series will be axed or it'll be the last and we'll be subjected to yet more z-listers being wheeled out for what is supposed to be the once a year lighthearted spinoff and is now becoming the overexposed main attraction. FFS, it makes me so angry, disappointed and upset.

[Raph]

Good stuff

[Rob!]

So technically it's the timeslot that's the problem here?

[oathbreaker]

People on DS saying that LF later got around 400k again.

not surprised

noticed RZT has said the slot average for 7/9 has been around 85k
which is a little better for the 70k BB Live pulled in.

[oathbreaker]

So technically it's the timeslot that's the problem here?

100% promise the guy was told this before the show even started
I just hope some common sense kicks in its perfect in a way late night coverage doing really well for what 24 mins of footage.

For me personally the feed would flop if even the late night offering was giving terrible numbers.

[RichardG]

These ratings just make me depressed :( that 5* figure is awful but what do they expect when there's been no ad for it or even any mention of it on the live shows (and I actually think it's deliberate so they can turn around and go 'we told you so')

I was thinking exactly that yesterday. I remember the first time they introduced live feed on 5* after evictions, Brian would always advertise it at the end of the main show. However, now, they stick it on 5* during prime time 7-9pm and make no mention of it whatsoever. If I wasn't a member of TIBB or Digital Spy I wouldn't even know the show was back on TV, let alone that there was live feed every night. So stupid. I'm convinced they want it to fail.

[Headie]

I read on another forum that someone said the average overnight audience for 5* between 7-9pm over the last few weeks (excluding BGT week) has been about 85,000 viewers. So yesterday's c70,000 for the BB live feed isn't too much lower than the slot average and a little improvement over the next few days could put it in line with the slot average.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It would have created a lot of buzz if Emma had said live feeds back every night on 5*.

[*mazedsalv**]

I know it makes no difference, but the exact rating last night for BB was 2.12m not 2.11m

1.96m on Ch5 and 158k on +1.

[Fingerprints101]

I know it's still not great but at least it held on most (basically 99%) of its audience.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I know it makes no difference, but the exact rating last night for BB was 2.12m not 2.11m

1.96m on Ch5 and 158k on +1.

That makes me feel sick.

[*mazedsalv**]

That makes me feel sick.

Lol, why?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Lol, why?

The 1.96 I mean.

[*mazedsalv**]

The 1.96 I mean.

Ahh I know. Horrible number to see. Only good thing is that those people watched 45 mins of HLs, so maybe that could keep people hooked as they got to know them a bit.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Brother's Bit on the Side took 703k (5.1%)

[*mazedsalv**]

Brother's Bit on the Side took 703k (5.1%)

Did better than I expected to be honest.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Did better than I expected to be honest.

Yeah I wonder what bit on the psych will get seeing as AJ is universally panned.

[DigitalSid]

Yeah I wonder what bit on the psych will get seeing as AJ is universally panned.

I actually really like her. She's no Emma but she's far, far better than Rylan is. Yes, she's got a strong accent but I can understand what she says fine.

[Jordan.]

Not suprised the 7-9 live feed did terrible. I don't think there's been any mention of it on the show?

[Gstar]

There hasn't, and there's clearly a substantial demand for it as it does a lot better in the late night slot

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I actually really like her. She's no Emma but she's far, far better than Rylan is. Yes, she's got a strong accent but I can understand what she says fine.

Its not her accent its the fact she completely says the wrong words lol.

She cant read autocue.

She cant read it fast enough and instead of saying the real words some how words that rhyme with whats actually on the autocue come out instead.

I don't know how to explain it.

[DigitalSid]

Its not her accent its the fact she completely says the wrong words lol.

She cant read autocue.

She cant read it fast enough and instead of saying the real words some how words that rhyme with whats actually on the autocue come out instead.

I don't know how to explain it.

She'll improve, this is her first live gig. Most her previous work was quizzing celebrities from cue cards. Hopefully tonight's psychology show will be more suited to her experience (being, I assume, interview based).

[Jake.]

1.36/6.6% last night

[jackc1806]

1.36/6.6% last night

Lets hope it picks up tonight

[Jake.]

Should be noted that it's (only just) higher than the first Saturday HL's of BB13

[Jake.]

And I'm not sure if that includes +1 btw

[jackc1806]

Why is this not stickied

[jackc1806]

And I'm not sure if that includes +1 btw

It does

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah, it's slightly higher.

[Jake.]

Could have been far worse, tonight should fare better

[Jemal]

1.36 million?

[Jake.]

Yes

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Better than I thought.

Tonight should be about 1.6.

[Jemal]

Daum.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's 160k higher than the first Saturday of BB13, so I guess that's good.

[Jake.]

You'd think with the low launches, it'd fare worse

[Sawyer]

I think this series will be a grower and will improve on bb13

[Jemal]

So will the producers/channel 5's decision on keeping bb alive depend on how different and better this series has been in terms of ratings to bb13?

[*mazedsalv**]

I reckon this series could be a grower too. It's a good sign that it's above the first Saturday of BB13 and possibly the first Sat of BB12 (what did that get?). Tonight should be 1.6-1.7m.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think this series will be a grower and will improve on bb13

Hope so.

Would be amazing if I woke up one morning to check the ratings thread (as sad as that sounds) and an episode had hit the 2 million mark.

I would cream.

[*mazedsalv**]

Just to say, the first Sunday show of BB13 got 1.48m overnights, I am pretty sure that tonight will beat that.

[Jemal]

Not really sad lmao. When i wake up in the morning and im having a lie-in the first thing i do is check my iPhone. Whether it would be forums, twitter, bb app etc etc. so your not alone:)

[oathbreaker]

I think this series will be a grower and will improve on bb13

could be some of those fans who 100% decided not to watch after the Conor farce last year will come back when they hear things are different this time around.

Think you are right about it being a Grower launch night ratings mean little because so many drift away just 2 days in always making the "slump" look more dramatic.

[*mazedsalv**]

Hope so.

Would be amazing if I woke up one morning to check the ratings thread (as sad as that sounds) and an episode had hit the 2 million mark.

I would cream.

CBB10 managed an increase after a few days, but then dropped again in the last week. Also, CBB11 increased slightly throughout the run. So, it is possible.

[Samm]

Look's like the ratings will hopefully stay above 1.30 million

[*mazedsalv**]

Look's like the ratings will hopefully stay above 1.50 million

And if the officials add around the same as CBB11 (500k on average), it would be at 2m official. That would be so good.

[Samm]

LIVE FEED ONLY GOT 70K :shocked:

[Jack_]

Two 70k figures in a row isn't bad, at least it might be consistent. I'd prefer it to be around 100k each day though so at least it's above the slot average, I am really worried they're gonna cut it back or axe it within a few weeks.

[oathbreaker]

Two 70k figures in a row isn't bad, at least it might be consistent. I'd prefer it to be around 100k each day though so at least it's above the slot average, I am really worried they're gonna cut it back or axe it within a few weeks.

wasn't even 70k by the looks of it.
Updated numbers were 56k then 8k on +1

only issue I have the live feed should just compliment the main show Ratings shouldn't be playing a part in this but sadly they are. I would me much happier if they just streamed the 2 hrs (or more) online and they can do whatever the hell they like with 5*

almost everyone agrees even the 2hrs has given this series a much needed depth if C5 are stupid enough to ignore that yet again :bawling:

[Samm]

What ratings to 5* get

[*mazedsalv**]

No, that figure was for the Friday's one, not yesterdays feed.

So to sum up:

Friday Live Feed at 7pm- 64k
Friday Live Feed at 11:30pm- 446,000 (excl +1)
Last nights show- 1.36m

We still don't know yesterdays LF for 7pm. It's for sure the slot which is letting it down, I mean if the late night half hour can almost get half a million incl +1...

[JohnnyBB]

good news that the shows up 130k on last years first saturday hopefully next week we get 2.0m that would be good hopefully, this years definatley a grower.

[Rob!]

Surely if Gina was trending worldwide on twitter last night,
The figures will pick up once word gets out about her?
Didn't figures improve in Denise Welches series when their fight happened,'through word of mouth?

[*mazedsalv**]

Surely if Gina was trending worldwide on twitter last night,
The figures will pick up once word gets out about her?
Didn't figures improve in Denise Welches series when their fight happened,'through word of mouth?

Not really, just on the night because lots watched on +1 on that day. But seeing as she trended worldwide that people want to see what the fuss was about.

[jackc1806]

What did Million Pound Drop get?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

What did Million Pound Drop get?

Without +1 both MPD and BB had 1.2

[jackc1806]

Without +1 both MPD and BB had 1.2

Strong +1 showing from BB then. What was BBs peak?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother's Bit on the Psych grabbed 613k (3.6%)

[*mazedsalv**]

For people who don't want to look through the thread...

Launch Part 1- 2.13m
Launch Part 2- 2.11m
Saturday- 1.36m

Predictions for tonight?

[jackc1806]

For people who don't want to look through the thread...

Launch Part 1- 2.13m
Launch Part 2- 2.11m
Saturday- 1.36m

Predictions for tonight?

1.6m

[Jemal]

1.6m tonight.

[Rob!]

I'm hoping when word gets out about last night's show, it might interest some more people...there's logic behind that right?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

With another argument between Gina And Sallie tonight hopefully that will keep viewers gripped.

[Samm]

1.7 peak 1.8

[Rob!]

Out of interest, if someone is recording it on Sky Plus or something, does that count?

[Jemal]

Out of interest, if someone is recording it on Sky Plus or something, does that count?

Was just thinking that.

[Valdora]

Out of interest, if someone is recording it on Sky Plus or something, does that count?

That's what I always do because I can fast forward through adds and "coming up."

[*mazedsalv**]

Damn, I forgot how strong the competition is at 9pm tonight.

The White Queen on BBC1 and The Returned on ITV have both been hugely hyped. I probably expect over 7m for BBC1 and over 5m for ITV. Damn.

[Loukas]

my prediction is just over 2m

[*mazedsalv**]

my prediction is just over 2m

That's a very high prediction.

[Marcus.]

1.2m

[daniel-lewis-1985]

**** yeah theres a lot of competition tonight.

Gonna lower my estimation to 1.2

[*mazedsalv**]

The Returned is on Ch4 so I guess it makes it better than being on ITV.

But The White Queen will do very well!

Edit- No idea The Returned started last week and it got 1.5m including +1, so I don't think it will be much competition, it will probably be 1.4m. So, hopefully if people watch The White Queen at 9pm, they can +1 BB.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Damn, I forgot how strong the competition is at 9pm tonight.

The White Queen on BBC1 and The Returned on ITV have both been hugely hyped. I probably expect over 7m for BBC1 and over 5m for ITV. Damn.

The Returned is actually on Channel 4 and only premiered to 1.2 million.

[*mazedsalv**]

The Returned is actually on Channel 4 and only premiered to 1.2 million.

Yeah, I just edited my post. It got 1.5m incl +1, so BB should beat it. It's only The White Queen that is big competition.

[Gypsy]

What did last nights 5* live feed get?

[Sawyer]

Yeah, I just edited my post. It got 1.5m incl +1, so BB should beat it. It's only The White Queen that is big competition.

alot of people, like myself, didn't realise that it was just the french series with subtitles... I thought it had been remade for the uk. I turned off halfway through because of this and I expect a lot of other people would of to. Don't think it will be much competition.

[Vanessa]

For people who don't want to look through the thread...

Launch Part 1- 2.13m
Launch Part 2- 2.11m
Saturday- 1.36m

Predictions for tonight?

That's not bad. :blush:

[*mazedsalv**]

Miss Marple is on ITV too, which gets between 4-5m all the time. And people are predicting The White Queen to get over 6m. I really hope BB can get over 1.5m with all this competition.

[Rob!]

Seeing on Digital Spy that yesterdays highlights got 1.2 million on Channel 5 and then 1.36 million on +1...so what, yesterday's highlights got 2.37? Is that right? :confused: