Doctor Who: Series 10 - Discussion Thread [13TH DOCTOR REVEALED]

[Jarrod]

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Doctor Who returns to BBC One at Christmas for a special episode - the only to air in 2016 - before returning in 2017 for its tenth series, with Peter Capaldi returning for his third and final full series as The Doctor. This series will be the first not to feature Jenna Coleman as Clara Oswald since her first appearance in Asylum Of The Daleks back in September 2012. The series will also be the final series to be overseen by Steven Moffat as showrunner.

Main Cast:
The Doctor - Peter Capaldi
Bill Potts - Pearl Mackie
Nardole - Matt Lucas

Supporting/Guest Cast:
River Song - Alex Kingston
Missy - Michelle Gomez
The Master - John Simm
The Landlord - David Suchet
The First Doctor - David Bradley

Christmas Specials:
Christmas 2015: The Husbands Of River Song
Christmas 2016: The Return of Doctor Mysterio
Christmas 2017: Twice Upon a Time

Series Ten Episode Guide
1, The Pilot
2. Smile
3. Thin Ice
4. Knock Knock
5. Oxygen
6. Extremis
7. The Pyramid At The End Of The World
8. The Lie Of The Land
9. The Empress Of Mars
10. The Eaters Of Light
11. World Enough And Time
12. The Doctor Falls



Next on TV: Christmas Day

Series 10 Episode Ratings
The Pilot - 6.68 Million [Official]
Smile - 5.98 Million [Official]
Thin Ice - 5.61 Million [Official]
Knock Knock - 5.73 Million [Official]
Oxygen - 5.27 Million [Official]
Extremis - 5.53 Million [Official]
The Pyramid At The End Of The World - 5.79 Million [Official]
The Lie Of The Land - 4.82 Million [Official]
The Empress Of Mars - 5.02 Million [Official]
The Eaters Of Light - 4.73 Million [Official]
World Enough And Time - 5.00 Million [Official]
The Doctor Falls - 5.29 Million [Official]

Series 9 Episode Ratings:

The Magician's Apprentice - 6.54 Million [Official]
The Witch's Familiar - 5.71 Million [Official]
Under The Lake - 5.63 Million [Official]
Before The Flood - 6.03 Million [Official]
The Girl Who Died - 6.56 Million Official
The Woman Who Lived - 6.11 Million Official
The Zygon Invasion - 5.76 Million Official
The Zygon Inversion - 6.03 Million Official
Sleep No More - 5.61 Million Official
Face The Raven - 6.05 Million Official
Heaven Sent - 6.19 Million Official
Hell Bent - 6.17 Million Official

SERIES AVERAGE: 6.03 Million

Series 8 Episode Ratings:

Deep Breath - 9.17 Million [Official]
Into The Dalek - 7.29 Million [Official]
Robots Of Sherwood - 7.28 Million [Official]
Listen - 7.01 Million [Official]
Time Heist - 6.99 Million [Official]
The Caretaker - 6.82 Million [Official]
Kill The Moon - 6.91 Million [Official]
Mummy On The Orient Express - 7.11 Million [Official]
Flatline - 6.71 Million [Official]
Into The Forest Of The Night - 6.92 Million [Official]
Dark Water - 7.34 Million [Official]
Death in Heaven - 7.60 Million [Official]

[Jarrod]

Trailer for tonight's episode:

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[Marsh.]

:amazed:

[Jarrod]

:amazed:

Clean slate for a new doctor :flutter: This way I can keep the OP updated with ratings and whatnot too.

[Marsh.]

Mummy on the Orient Express? :laugh: Is this another Agatha Christie episode?

[Jarrod]

Preview Clips:
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[Jarrod]

Mummy on the Orient Express? :laugh: Is this another Agatha Christie episode?

Remember the end of Series 5 with the phone call? It was mentioned then and then the episode ended... but the Christmas episode that followed it was completely different.

[armand.kay]

Next ep looks good

[Marsh.]

Remember the end of Series 5 with the phone call? It was mentioned then and then the episode ended... but the Christmas episode that followed it was completely different.

Oh yeah. :think:

[Marsh.]

I forgot about it and missed the teaser. :eek:

[Marsh.]

12 and Clara. So much better. :worship:

[armand.kay]

Can't watch tonight ep coz we have guests and they've taken up the living room. h8 dem.

[Marsh.]

Can't watch tonight ep coz we have guests and they've taken up the living room. h8 dem.

Exterminate them.

[armand.kay]

Exterminate them.

imma drag them to gallifrey and back http://i.imgur.com/8KAD4SF.gif

[Marsh.]

:joker: That gif.

[Jarrod]

Good episode, little weak in places I thought though.

[Jay.]

I thought tonight's was so much better than the opening episode! It reminded me of the series 1 episode with the Dalek and Rose :flutter:

[Jamesy]

I loved it. Far better than episode one (in my opinion). Did fall flat at points but an all round good episode.

[Scarlett.]

It's crazy how quickly Capaldi has settled in as the Doctor, it took me until S7 to actually like Matt Smith (though that was mostly because Amy basically became the star of the show, which was annoying, once she left, he was a lot better).

Tonights episode was fantastic, its so good to actually have a really really good Dalek episode again, I think this is also the first time we've seen the Daleks back at full power too.

[Marsh.]

It feels like years since I've seen a Dalek actually kill people.

I didn't think much of Matt Smith until series 7 either. I think it was The Angels Take Manhattan was the first one I really enjoyed him in (just happens to be Amy's last :hehe:).

[Shaun]

Capaldi already confirmed as the best doctor of the whole reboot tbh

[Marsh.]

:clap1:

I love his bluntness. He should've dumped Clara and took Zawe Ashton as his companion.

[Scarlett.]

That Missy character is quite interesting, I like that he beef seems to be with the Doctor, and not another "the universe is dying!" style arc.

[Firewire]

I'll need to re-watch the episode as I was distracted

[Rob!]

Good episode - enjoyed it. Tad confused though (so what's new with Moffat?)

Is there now a Dalek going around who hates all other Daleks? Not only do they not remember the Doctor, there's a Dalek that wants to exterminate all of it's species?

[Scarlett.]

Good episode - enjoyed it. Tad confused though (so what's new with Moffat?)

Is there now a Dalek going around who hates all other Daleks? Not only do they not remember the Doctor, there's a Dalek that wants to exterminate all of it's species?

They remember the Doctor now, I forget when it happened, but they regained their memory of him (might have been in the time of the doctor), I reckon we might see Rusty again, hopefully this means that there will be something of a schism for the Daleks, as they're too powerful at the moment, a Dalek civil war could be interesting.

[Rob!]

They remember the Doctor now, I forget when it happened, but they regained their memory of him (might have been in the time of the doctor), I reckon we might see Rusty again, hopefully this means that there will be something of a schism for the Daleks, as they're too powerful at the moment, a Dalek civil war could be interesting.

So they stopped forgetting the doctor...in the very next episode they appeared in? What the hell was the point?

[Jamesy]

It's interesting regarding Rusty, as in the leaked episode..
Rusty self destructs, blowing up a Dalek ship and killing itself along with it.

Although in the episode we saw last night that scene was cut out for some reason. I guess they didn't like what was in the earlier cut, or they have plans for Rusty the Dalek. Maybe Rusty will return one day.

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, I can imagine they cut that, because they wanted to leave his future undecided.

[Marsh.]

What the hell was the point?

I've been saying that since 2010. :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

Found this pretty funny/weird

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Forgot they were both in Emmerdale at the same time.

[Marsh.]

Danny Pink and Journey Blue. Both soldiers.

:think:

[Rob!]

Danny Pink and Journey Blue. Both soldiers.

:think:

Omg maybe we're going to get a gay pride army :amazed:


Oooh and there's a gay bar called Heaven.


**** you Moffat. Trying to hoodwink me :smug:

[Marsh.]

:joker:

Captain Jack returns, a married man. Jack Red.

[Marsh.]

But yeah, I think it'll turn out Danny is from outer space. :smug:

He might end up as the final "victim" to be collected by Missy towards the end of the series. :amazed: I'm dead clever me.

[Rob!]

But yeah, I think it'll turn out Danny is from outer space. :smug:

He might end up as the final "victim" to be collected by Missy towards the end of the series. :amazed: I'm dead clever me.

:clap1:

I just hope whatever it turns out to be, it's given time to breath. Some of the co complicated and convulated **** we've had for the past few years

[Marsh.]

The worst thing would be if it isn't concluded and the story spirals out of control into the christmas special/series 9 and beyond. :eek:

[Sticks]

No comment about the new titles?

A friend of mine hates them and does not believe Peter should be using his Scottish accent as RTD never allowed that from David (10th)

[Marsh.]

I think there were comments on them in the old thread. I don't mind the titles, the music is horrid.

I don't mind Capaldi using his Scottish accent as McCoy used it too (apparently) and Eccleston kept his Manchester accent. I think we've finally moved beyond the "RP" doctors. They don't have to be posh anymore. :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

The worst thing would be if it isn't concluded and the story spirals out of control into the christmas special/series 9 and beyond. :eek:

Definately, thats what was most annoying about Matt Smith's reign, the whole over arching silence thing, I mean, the way it ended was pretty good with all the "Of the Doctor" episodes, but the three years building up to it? Not so much.

[Tom4784]

I think Danny will end up being some sort of undercover UNIT agent.

[Jamesy]

I hate how with Matt Smith's final episode ALL unanswered questions were answered, even questions that the majority of viewers probably forgot about.

I hate how Moffat has to answer everything. I kinda like a mystery or two, or unanswered questions that can leave the viewer to come to their own conclusions about. It's a sc-fi show at the end of the day, we don't need to know everything or things from 4 years ago, and it's good to leave viewers to come to their own conclusions now and again.

[Jarrod]

I'm not holding up much hope for next week's episode. It looks like they've taken the remaining sets and costumes from Merlin (Which was also a BBC Wales production) and just smashed them all into a story about Robin Hood :idc:

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, it has a feeling of being one of "those episodes"

[Jarrod]

No comment about the new titles?

A friend of mine hates them and does not believe Peter should be using his Scottish accent as RTD never allowed that from David (10th)

The titles are tricky. I don't like the clockwork thing at the start, but I like the vortex/space part. As for the theme tune... they've butchered it within an inch of its life and I have no idea why. It has no bass, no... oomph. It's really boring.

[Jarrod]

Yeah, it has a feeling of being one of "those episodes"

Last night's felt a bit rushed too, like there was no story behind it really... enjoyed how we saw the inside of the Dalek though!

[Jarrod]

Last night's episode was watched by 5.2m (24.7%) at 7:30pm.

To let you know, I'll be keeping a record of the episode ratings throughout the run, and updating it when the official ratings for the episode are released.

[Jarrod]

Doctor Who Extra: Into The Dalek
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Episode Three Trailer:
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[Scarlett.]

Last night's felt a bit rushed too, like there was no story behind it really... enjoyed how we saw the inside of the Dalek though!

I didn't mind not having a proper backstory to last nights episodes, it was just Daleks doing their thing. Though I suppose that hasn't been a common thing in the new series, since the majority of those episodes hinged on having one survivor with Asylum and Into the Dalek being the exceptions.

[Jarrod]

I didn't mind not having a proper backstory to last nights episodes, it was just Daleks doing their thing. Though I suppose that hasn't been a common thing in the new series, since the majority of those episodes hinged on having one survivor with Asylum and Into the Dalek being the exceptions.

I LOVED Asylum :love: It's up there with one of my favourite episodes ever. I just didn't like last nights as much as I'd hoped.

[Pete.]

Titles and theme music remaining flawless http://i.imgur.com/4CD0G80.gif

[Scarlett.]

I quite like the theme tune, at least the start of it, with all the bell chimes and stuff, the visuals are great too.

[armand.kay]

I'm mad that the doctor didn't take the black girl with him, I really liked her and was hopping he would collect a couple of people on his adventures so he ends up with a small group traveling with him. I've always preferred it when the doctor travels with a group.

[armand.kay]

Titles and theme music remaining flawless http://i.imgur.com/4CD0G80.gif

Pls they're fugly.

[Marsh.]

I think Danny will end up being some sort of undercover UNIT agent.

Good idea, Capaldi is already echoing a lot of Pertwee's era.

[Daniel R]

45 minutes :amazed:

[Pete.]

Peter C was asked to add a flavour of William Hartnell in him because of the new regeneration timeline (well that's what a friend told me)

[armand.kay]

Messy Clara

[Scarlett.]

I loved tonights episode, it was so silly, but that's what made it so great for me, generally in Moffat's era, episodes that should be fun tended to fall flat, but this episode revelled in how silly it was, rather than trying to be serious at the same time.

[Jarrod]

"Listen" Next Time:
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Doctor Who Extra - Episode 3:
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[JTM45]

I think the new guy is a much better Doctor than that little boy with the giant chin that they had playing him last but so far (with tonight's episode being a Prime example!) the writing and storylines have been absolutely HORRENDOUS!!!!!!
As a child i spent my week days getting excited for Saturday evening's Doctor Who episode with the greatest ever Doctor (Tom Baker!) in them and that era of Doctor Who was just immense in every way!!! Davros was the scariest nemesis of the Doctor's ever. Used to scare the crap out of me.

[Rob!]

I quite enjoyed tonight - was good fun. I'm liking Capaldi more and more. :) actually finding myself liking Clara more too - at last.
Next week looks creepy as ****. I'm really hoping for a old school Moffat story. The type we used to look forward to in the RTD era. He hasn't written a stand alone story since Beast Below.

[Samm]

I liked the Dalek episode a lot, haven't watched the current episode yet tbh

The episodes are a lot better now that they are not taking over by a massive story arc like series 6 was and parts of series 7, it does feel like it's back to what it was like before Matt Smith, I like the missy mystery since it only takes up like 6 seconds just like the Bad wolf story arc did :flutter:

[Scarlett.]

I agree, it's so nice not having some convoluted plot every single episode, I mean, its been a really long time since we had a story as simple as Robots of Sherwood, hell, even Into the Dalek and Deep Breath were simple enough. Another thing that really helps this series is, its a consistent run of episodes, the last time we got a series that played out in full was 2010 with series 5.

[Jarrod]

Don't forget, I'm adding the episode ratings in the OP.

[armand.kay]

This is scurry :worry:

[Shaun]

great episode, until the last 10 minutes

tired of Moffat's eye for a good visual and atmosphere being undone at the last minute by his desperate attempts to be deep

[armand.kay]

Yeah the end was annoying.

[Glenn.]

So..

Clara took the TARDIS to Gallifrey?

[armand.kay]

Yeah basically

[Tregard]

Clara ruined the episode for me yet again by being non-human levels of quirky and being far more important than she should be. Great concept, brilliant pacing and settings, Capaldi played a blinder yet again, but man, if Clara doesn't always put a damper on things for me.

Interesting theory bouncing around that

The child Clara was talking to was The Master

[Scarlett.]

I actually loved the ending, perhaps because I thought they were just reusing the barn set, didn't expect it to actually be the same place, lol. Also, it's a lot better than revealing the monster at the end, it leaves the question, was there a monster, or was it just the Doctor's overactive imaginination.

[Tom4784]

It was an amazing episode, incredibly creepy.

I do think the creature in Rupert's room might have some significance at some point down the line since it was the only thing that couldn't be explained as simply being the Doctor's imagination. There's more to Danny and I think the creature will tie into his story somehow beyond this episode.

[Shaun]

See I thought I was confused by that as well and then I read on Wiki it was revealed it was a friend of his playing a prank :laugh: I was like 'uh...where?'

[Tom4784]

See I thought I was confused by that as well and then I read on Wiki it was revealed it was a friend of his playing a prank :laugh: I was like 'uh...where?'

I don't think anything has been said for definite. It definitely didn't look human when the blanket slid off.

[Rob!]

That was really something special. Strange thing was, it wasn't really anything to do with the Doctor or Clara (Aside from establishing that he's afraid of the dark and that Clara and Danny are now an item) but just a kind of monologue from the mind of Moffat.

Interesting thing though... What is the Army of the Time Lords?

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, I didn't think Gallifrey would have an army, seeing as they were more insular before the Time War. Then again, having an army on stand by is probably a good idea.

The creature in Rupert's bedroom was interesting, it could kinda be wrote off as just representing what they thought was behind them, rather than it being an actual creature. Interesting that we didn't get a Promised Land mention in this episode.

This series has been so much better than 5/6/7 so far, it really feels like what the show used to be before it became The Pond's show.

[armand.kay]

Clara is so much better this series I'm beginning to like her.

[JTM45]

Tonight's episode was the best one of this Series so far.....by a long way (in my opinion!).

[Jarrod]

4.81m (23.5%) watched last night's episode of Doctor Who.

[Rob!]

One little thing though: "how can he be a time lord feeling like that?" Or a line similar to that.


Isn't the doctor a time lord anyway? That's like saying "how can Clara be a human feeling like this?" Is there some sort of ceremony the time lords go through before they are considered a time lord?

[Scarlett.]

Timelord is actually a rank, Gallifreyan is the race.

[armand.kay]

ohh this episode is really good so far

[MB.]

Not the sassy black one :worry:

[Pete.]

Saibra getting her storyline cut short </3

[Pete.]

Hopefully they went to heaven with missy

[Pete.]

Doctor is the architect?

[armand.kay]

Saibra being icon this whole ep http://i.imgur.com/sFJlbJw.gif

[armand.kay]

the doctor not asking saibra to come with him but asking the likes of amy...

[Jarrod]

Loved it! :amazed:

[Ross.]

Fleur :love:

[Pete.]

Saibra being icon this whole ep http://i.imgur.com/sFJlbJw.gif
The star

[Pete.]

Fleur :love:
Wrong thread hun

[Pete.]

This series is great tbh :clap1:

[Ross.]

Wrong thread hun

Oops :hehe:

[armand.kay]

she needs to be clara's replacement x
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/384x216/p026x6ty.jpg

[Jarrod]

I didn't even like her? She didn't play a huge part in the entire story. Neither of them did. She was just there as many guest stars are when they're in a show like this.

This forum seems to have the tendency rave and shout about random so called "sassy" women that aren't even that good.. Yes, the acting was good but the character was nothing special.

[armand.kay]

I liked Saibra she was a great character and had more going than clara.
and I wouldn't say she was 'sassy' i don't remember her being sassy.

[Shaun]

that episode :love:

[Jarrod]

I liked Saibra she was a great character and had more going than clara.
and I wouldn't say she was 'sassy' i don't remember her being sassy.

I wasn't directing at you, but it has been mentioned in the thread during the episode.

[Scarlett.]

Next episode looks sooooooo good, lol. I always love when the Doctor tries to blend in.

[Scarlett.]

As a side note, did anyone else feel like this was a story written for 11? The Doctor didn't behave much like the 12th Doctor toward the end.

[armand.kay]

Next episode looks sooooooo good, lol. I always love when the Doctor tries to blend in.

Same they should have a spin off following john smith.

[Tregard]

Next episode looks like it's all about Clara, pass.

[Pete.]

Next episode looks like it's all about Clara, pass.
Legend C

[Jarrod]

4.92m (23.5%) watched last night's episode.

[Marsh.]

Oooh, that's not good. :/

[Glenn.]

I thought it was over 5m

[Jarrod]

The overnights aren't that strong - the official ratings are boosting up to around 7 Million.

[Marsh.]

"Robot of Sherwood" I really couldn't get into. :umm2:

I cringed at that spoon fighting scene more than when Martha used to try to act. :worry: I usually like the silly comedy episodes but that didn't do it for me.

Loved "Listen" even though it seemed to be a typical Moffat affair and I thought "Time Heist" was brilliant although I think the script spoiled it for me as some of the visuals I imagined to be better than a lot of what they used, like the Cardiff factory. :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

An early preview for "Kill the Moon" has been released, I can kinda see why it's got a later timeslot
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26p3hq_kill-the-moon-clip_shortfilms

[armand.kay]

Loving this ep

[Jarrod]

This episode was pretty brilliant.

[armand.kay]

Courtney a new companion?

[armand.kay]

Best episode of the series Imo

[MB.]

The rest of the series is just going to be The Thick of It without the swearing, isn't it

[armand.kay]

Next ep looks really good too!

[armand.kay]

Lol at Courtney randomly being a reoccurring character

[Scarlett.]

This weeks episode was quite good, also, made me realise they've actually built up an "Earth cast" again, like they did in S1-4. Next weeks episode looks awesome.

[Glenn.]

I didn't really rate this episode tbh. Didn't really seem like a lot was going on. I could watch it again though. Maybe there was something I liked about it.

Next weeks looks absolutely terrifying though :love:

When I see the spider thing in the next time trailer I actually hid my face. I hate spiders so ****ing much.

[Rob!]

LOVED this week.

I think my favourite aspect of it is despite the fact that The Doctor hates soldiers and therefore Danny, what's interesting is that Danny can apparently read the Doctor better than Clara ever could. He knew the Doctor knew he was there when he was invisible, he knew The Doctor was thawing to him slightly by the end and why and it was him that had to explain all this to Clara.
The monster was cool and expensive looking but ultimately a decoration in a story about how these characters are now going to interact.
What the hell is going on with Missy? I'm LOVING this series so far and next week? Space spiders? I hate spiders. :cheer:

[Sticks]

And it was a giant space spider that did for the 3rd doctor...

[Scarlett.]

One thing I loved, is Danny talked back to the Doctor, proving himself, he's a brilliant character in his own right, and Clara has really come into her own this series, its crazy looking back at how little characterisation there was last series.

[Firewire]

Episode 1: had to watch twice to understand it but loved it
Episode 2: even better than the first episode
Episode 3: a bit pointless
Episode 4: amazing episode
Episode 5: it was enjoyable but not as good as the others (minus 3)
Episode 6: fantastic episode, it was hilarious too.

[Jarrod]

4.89m (21.8%) watched last night's edition of Doctor Who.

[Scarlett.]

An alright episode tonight, wish there was more of a focus on the monsters though, you can kinda tell it was originally a story written for 11 by the pacing.

[Jarrod]

Tonight's felt a little rushed, and agreeing with you Chewy, it felt like it was made for 11.

[Firewire]

Clara this series :clap1:

[Samm]

I still want a new companion, Clara is ok.. but I want another Donna or Martha

I would say rose my fav but I don't want another love thing

[armand.kay]

this was a massive let down imo. Really wish they spent more time on the monsters I was expecting a "Impossible planet" or "waters of mars" type of episode. Maybe they should of made this two parts, with the spiders killing people part one and the whole the moon is an egg crap part two.

[Scarlett.]

Clara this series :clap1:

That was my favourite part of the episode, was nice to see her calling the Doctor out for putting people in situations like that.

[armand.kay]

Courtney was also a disappointment this episode. The writing for her character made no seance at all.

[armand.kay]

Clara this series :clap1:

yes!! I don't wan't her gone anymore lol.

[Jarrod]

I think the lack of double part episodes is showing. The stories feel a little rushed. This story and Time Heist could have made good double part stories and we'd have got more of the actual monsters too.

[LukeB]

i got so many episodes to catch up on.

[Scarlett.]

I think the lack of double part episodes is showing. The stories feel a little rushed. This story and Time Heist could have made good double part stories and we'd have got more of the actual monsters too.

I think the finale is a double episode at least.

[Shaun]

great episode, love the ones that tear away at the dark side of humanity - reminded me of the episode with the 10th doctor and the space bus and that mimicking monster with Carol from Eastenders being a superbitch.

wasn't here for the whole clara "how could you?!??!?!?!" bit at the end, though

[Scarlett.]

great episode, love the ones that tear away at the dark side of humanity - reminded me of the episode with the 10th doctor and the space bus and that mimicking monster with Carol from Eastenders being a superbitch.

wasn't here for the whole clara "how could you?!??!?!?!" bit at the end, though

I really liked the end, its been building up throughout the series, from when the Doctor first left Clara on her own in the Clockwork Droid's dungeon, I reckon it will lead to 12 eventually softening a little.

So for some reason, American fans somehow got an "anti-abortion" message from the episode... I mean, I get how it could be thought of as that, but I saw it as more of an 'anti-extinction' message.

[Firewire]

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[Firewire]

Kill the Moon got near-universal acclaim, I think I'll need to watch again as I didn't think it was that interesting...

[Scarlett.]

Kill the Moon got near-universal acclaim, I think I'll need to watch again as I didn't think it was that interesting...

/r/gallifrey and /r/doctorwho on reddit didn't seem to like it much, citing the physics were off. :joker: This is the show that had Earth stolen from orbit without any major natural disasters happening, not to mention, the Doctor dragging it back into orbit without any disasters. There was also that time that Gallifrey appeared over Earth, again, with no world ending disasters.

[Rob!]

Most people seem to be complaining about the creature laying an "egg" that is the same size as itself..
Like...what?
Why the hell not? Who cares?

For what it's worth - I didn't think Kill the moon was quite as good as the hype suggested. I found the spiders absolutely terrifying, as I knew I would, and I think it should have just been an episode focussing on bringing them down. Mind you, if these things are germs, then it's perfectly possible to bring them back. Hope so.

[Tom4784]

I thought it was pretty great, not as good as Listen but definitely the second best episode this series. Clara's going strength to strength this season so I hope the rumours of her leaving aren't true especially as they've built up some pretty good characters around her now.

[Sticks]

Does it not bother anyone that this episode plays fast and loose with science.
1) it effectively repeats the myth about seeing the Great Wall of China from the Moon. You would only be able to discern street lights from Low Earth Orbit.

2) The Moon is tidally locked and goes round the earth in about 30 days, not a few minutes as was implied by the graphic of the rotating Earth as lights go out.

3) The moon also stabilises the Earth at its 23 degrees off the vertical which gives us the seasons, so an increasing moon mass would do more than mess with the tides.

4) Episode ignores accepted theory for origin of the Moon, namely a glancing blow collision with a planetoid called Thea. This was confirmed by samples brought back by the Apollo missions, backed up by Russian samples.

[Marsh.]

Does it not bother anyone that this episode plays fast and loose with science.
1) it effectively repeats the myth about seeing the Great Wall of China from the Moon. You would only be able to discern street lights from Low Earth Orbit.

2) The Moon is tidally locked and goes round the earth in about 30 days, not a few minutes as was implied by the graphic of the rotating Earth as lights go out.

3) The moon also stabilises the Earth at its 23 degrees off the vertical which gives us the seasons, so an increasing moon mass would do more than mess with the tides.

4) Episode ignores accepted theory for origin of the Moon, namely a glancing blow collision with a planetoid called Thea. This was confirmed by samples brought back by the Apollo missions, backed up by Russian samples.

:suspect: Since when has Doctor Who stuck to scientific fact?

It's called science FICTION for a reason. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

The next episode is reminding me of that Agatha Christie episode that David Tennant had. :laugh:

[Jarrod]

4.82m (21.5%) saw Kill The Moon last night.

[Glenn.]

I wonder if next weeks will at all make reference to the eleventh doctor and the ponds unseen visit to the orient express in space. The night Amy and Rory got married?

[Rob!]

The story was begging to be a two-parter though. The spiders could have been part one and the whole moon is an egg thing in part two. Scuppered story :(

[Glenn.]

I don't think I could of handled a full episode about spiders. It was bad enough with what we got in the first place. I hate spiders so much.

[Sticks]

:suspect: Since when has Doctor Who stuck to scientific fact?

It's called science FICTION for a reason. :laugh:

I have been involved with Science fiction, especially when I was in a better position to write my Mystical Realms stories. You still make sure you get your science right!

That is why they had science advisers for the Star Trek programmes and some of the Hollywood movies such as Sunshine, which had Professor Brian Cox as a science adviser.

[Marsh.]

I have been involved with Science fiction, especially when I was in a better position to write my Mystical Realms stories. You still make sure you get your science right!

That is why they had science advisers for the Star Trek programmes and some of the Hollywood movies such as Sunshine, which had Professor Brian Cox as a science adviser.

But they've never stuck to scientific facts/principles on Doctor Who. A large part of it is as much "magic" as something like Harry Potter.

Remember when the Earth was "stolen" and nothing catastrophic happened? :laugh:

[Jarrod]

But they've never stuck to scientific facts/principles on Doctor Who. A large part of it is as much "magic" as something like Harry Potter.

Remember when the Earth was "stolen" and nothing catastrophic happened? :laugh:

Damn Daleks, my plant pot fell over :fist:

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[armand.kay]

The next episode is reminding me of that Agatha Christie episode that David Tennant had. :laugh:

it reminds me of one of the audio books with matt smith and amy.

It looks really good. :worry:

[Marsh.]

Matt Smith has audio books?

[armand.kay]

Yeah I Bought it on amazon. Its called the run away train I think.

[Marsh.]

Ahhh.

[Scarlett.]

Does it not bother anyone that this episode plays fast and loose with science.
1) it effectively repeats the myth about seeing the Great Wall of China from the Moon. You would only be able to discern street lights from Low Earth Orbit.

2) The Moon is tidally locked and goes round the earth in about 30 days, not a few minutes as was implied by the graphic of the rotating Earth as lights go out.

3) The moon also stabilises the Earth at its 23 degrees off the vertical which gives us the seasons, so an increasing moon mass would do more than mess with the tides.

4) Episode ignores accepted theory for origin of the Moon, namely a glancing blow collision with a planetoid called Thea. This was confirmed by samples brought back by the Apollo missions, backed up by Russian samples.

The show also ignores the orign of Earth too, remember The Runaway Bride? There was also that time Gallifrey appeared in the sky, without earth being royally fudged up.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100102104746/tardis/images/4/4d/Gallifrey_earth.jpg

[Jarrod]

Just on a slightly random note, has anybody else noticed that they've tweaked the theme tune? It starts differently and has a lot more bass to it now.

[armand.kay]

This ep is really good so far

[Scarlett.]

Such a great episode, a lot better than last weeks, felt like a proper Doctor Who adventure, next week looks interesting.

Also, I'm betting Missy was behind Gus.

[Shaun]

excellent episode again :clap1:

who was the voice of Gus? Sounded so familiar.

[armand.kay]

I loved the episode up until they got locked in the carriage and it turned into lab would of been better if the episode was more like "the unicorn and the wasp"

[Rob!]

That was an absolutely fantastic episode! Loved every second :)

[Rob!]

I love Capaldi's Doctor so much :love:

[Glenn.]

Great episode tonight. Can't believe we're near the end of the series already

[Jarrod]

5.08 million (22.1%) watched the episode on Saturday

[Marsh.]

who was the voice of Gus? Sounded so familiar.

This.

[Jarrod]

One of the strongest episodes this series I think. I absolutely loved Clara.

[Glenn.]

Really enjoyed this episode. Clara is going from strength to strength :love:

[Scarlett.]

Best episode in what has possibly been the best series so far, only Kill the Moon felt like a misstep, the rest of the series has been very good.

[Glenn.]

Kill The Moon is probably my favourite episode of the series now. I rewatched it the other day.

This weeks was fantastic. The monster was creepy and clever.

Next weeks looks great too.

[Samm]

I liked the episode, I always like it when they do earth stories and I kinda warmed to Clara more

I knew all of the places where they went since I live in Bristolhttp://i.imgur.com/yH16fa8.gif

bit confused by that Missy bit at the end

Next week looks like another Earth story

[armand.kay]

Loved the ep!
The start felt like it was from a classic who episode.
I love the earth episodes.

And the black guy http://i.imgur.com/BXuAjk4.gif
Should of become a new companion tbh.

[Marsh.]

Loved this one.

We're finally getting some "Straight to the point, tell a self contained story" episodes rather than the overblown/trying to be too clever stuff.

Felt weird being set on modern day Earth though. Like an RTD episode almost.

[Shaun]

Just watched it. Another excellent episode. This is now confirmed as my favourite season and favourite doctor :flutter:

[Shaun]

This.

I looked it up after, it was John Sessions

[Rob!]

Absolutely brilliant episode. This series has been amazing :love:

[Marsh.]

I looked it up after, it was John Sessions

I don't recognise him. :think:

I wonder if he's done a lot of voiceovers.

[armand.kay]

This season of who is perf tbh <3
Agreeing with marsh I'm loving the linear, straight forward story telling a massive inprovement from and last two seasons and the Christmas episode (still not over it -_-).
I'm also liking that we get to see allot more interaction with the doctor and Clara, we are seing their story develop and it feeling like we are watching their story, we haven't really seen this since rose and ten.

[Jarrod]

Finale next week!

[Tom4784]

I thought the episode was okay, interesting premise but it was let down by annoying child actors and a really pointless subplot. Looking forward to next week's though.

[Scarlett.]

The two parter finale looks awesome, I just hope hope hope it's nothing like S6's finale.

[Jarrod]

The two parter finale looks awesome, I just hope hope hope it's nothing like S6's finale.

Cringe at the thought of Series 6's finale. This one looks promising though.

[Jarrod]

5.03m (21.6%) watched In The Forest of the Night.

[Marsh.]

Great premise but not really lived up to its potential. I find Clara and Danny's relationship issues too dull.

The finale episodes look great. I'm guessing the major spoilers they've put in the trailers are just misdirection.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't recognise him. :think:

I wonder if he's done a lot of voiceovers.

he is the King of voiceovers

[Marsh.]

Good to know.

[Jamesy]

I find the whole Clara and Danny thing rather... pointless. So far it seems like he's a side story so they can let Clara leave with no hard drama.

Maybe there will be a scenario like the whole "impossible girl" arc in series 7 and we find out his whole story in the finale. So far it just seems all too familiar with the whole Amy and Rory balancing out Doctor life vs real life. This is pretty much a copycat of the same thing although we see the people on the life side that get affected by it. Not exactly compelling TV.

I didn't mind last Saturday's episode. It wasn't great, but it was a good light hearted episode before the two final episodes. Don't really get all the hate against the child actors, they're children at the end of the day and the main leading child (forgot her name) was decent enough. Sure the acting was off but it wasn't a major episode so I didn't find that much of a problem myself.

[Firewire]

I think Missy is...

Another version of Clara

[Scarlett.]

Holy ****ing ****.

[Rob!]

Please don't cremate me...Jesus that's dark. :shocked:

[Marsh.]

I was a bit letdown tbh.

The Missy stuff was ok but overall the episode seemed a bit run of the mill.

[Jamesy]

Yeah the episode seemed more of a build up so wasn't that incredible.

Good episode on the whole though. Can't say I cared much about Danny throughout it and with everything happening to him. He just doesn't stand out to me and hasn't been around long enough on screen to show the great connection him and Clara have.

I found Clara really out of character.. ...throwing the TARDIS keys away. It just seemed very off and not Clara. I felt like her character was thrown in the bin just in favour of a dramatic scene.

Regarding Missy (spoilers obviously):
The twist of her being The Master is interesting. Although I'm not going to get too hooked on the idea until next weeks episode. If she is really The Master though, why did she kiss the Doctor like that? It seemed like a forced thing Moffat does with these female characters. On the whole I felt her acting like that was pretty unnecessary and didn't add anything. If she was River that would have meant something... The Master/Mistress though? Just plain weird.

and they could have easily made Missy be...
The Rani.

They managed to introduce The Master during the RTD era, why not introduce The Rani now? Missed opportunity.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, I'm a bit sick of all the mysterious females locking lips with the Doctor. It's such a cliche now.

[Shaun]

binge-watched the last two episodes, since I missed the first one, last night

one with the forest was ****ing terrible good bye

this week's was perfect <3 <3 <3 (except for the Moffat tropes - impossibly sassy and cheery British villains, a mysterious woman who gets a bit kissy)

but idc michelle gomez > life

[Tom4784]

The last episode was amazing, totally here for the Mistress and I hope they don't kill her off at the end of next week's episode since Michelle Gomez is amazing and I want her to return eventually.

[Scarlett.]

It's crazy how well she did The Master's characteristics, when you watch it again, there's certain things she does that make you think of the John Simm's Master

[Shaun]

I've been waiting years for Michelle Gomez to be amazing in something big again after Green Wing (we don't talk about Bad Education) :flutter:

[Glenn.]

I wonder if we'll see the regeneration? I know Steven Moffat said he wanted the 'complete box set' of regenerations that's why we got to see the 8th Doctor regenerate then the War Doctor into 9 to some degree.

I think the Timelords will be back next year.

[Rob!]

All reviews saying the series finale is spectacular. :amazed:

Apparently the Cybermen have never been so scary - this is them at their absolute core. The full body horror of them is fully explored, they're not just an additional asset to the plot, they're very relevant. Which is good because the cybermen have been absolute gash since their first few appearances.

[Shaun]

Saturday's is the series finale? Already? :( I was just getting used to the idea of actually enjoying watching Dr Who :laugh:

[Marsh.]

DS forum is in a meltdown over the Master's sex change. :fan:

It's like they can believe all this sci-fi stuff, the Tardis bigger on the inside etc but a Time Lord regenerating into another gender is far too unbelievable and they get their geeky knickers in a twist. :laugh:

[Rob!]

DS forum is in a meltdown over the Master's sex change. :fan:

It's like they can believe all this sci-fi stuff, the Tardis bigger on the inside etc but a Time Lord regenerating into another gender is far too unbelievable and they get their geeky knickers in a twist. :laugh:

I know, DS get on my tits. Their BB views annoy me too.

The master being a woman is a genius move in my view - I hope Michelle Gomez keeps the role beyond what happens on Saturday. It's also the perfect answer to the Can the Doctor be a woman question. Apparently Gomez is spectacular in Death In Heaven, really encompassing everything the Master is supposed to be about.

I can't wait :amazed:

[Marsh.]

I love Gomez too. Hated John Simm as the Master, I thought he was awful.

[Jamesy]

I hope she stays as The Master. Hopefully she can appear next series again or the series after that!

[Sticks]

A number of people have complained about one of the plot lines to Off Com and the BBC (See here) (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-11-06/doctor-who-bbc-defends-afterlife-cremation-scene-in-series-finale-after-viewers-complain) to wit

Missy's accomplice Dr Chang claimingthat dead people remained conscious and could feel the pain of cremation, while those who had donated their bodies to medical science underwent similarly unpleasant experiences.

As my mother died in August, and she was cremated, I found this distressing. I do not know what the rest of our family think about it. And no I did not put in a complaint, maybe I should have done.

[Shaun]

It's obviously an uncomfortable idea but it's a work of fiction...

[Marsh.]

I don't see why people would complain.

The show wasn't making these claims in any real world sense but within the universe of the show as the "dead" were still conscious in someway.

Honestly, they even had complaints about Capaldi pulling a hair off his head in episode 1. PC brigade gone mad.

[Sticks]

But by putting the idea out there, you can put in the backs of people's minds "what if..." especially if they have unexpectedly lost someone close to them.

I also worry if this could affect the issue of organ donation.

[Marsh.]

:confused: It's Doctor Who! Not Panorama.

[Scarlett.]

But by putting the idea out there, you can put in the backs of people's minds "what if..." especially if they have unexpectedly lost someone close to them.

I also worry if this could affect the issue of organ donation.

It's fiction. It's a show about a 2000 year old time travelling alien, whose worst enemy is a dustbin with a plunger.

[Rob!]

But by putting the idea out there, you can put in the backs of people's minds "what if..." especially if they have unexpectedly lost someone close to them.

I also worry if this could affect the issue of organ donation.

:laugh2:

[Tom4784]

People have far too much time on their hands to complain over something as stupid as that.

But by putting the idea out there, you can put in the backs of people's minds "what if..." especially if they have unexpectedly lost someone close to them.

I also worry if this could affect the issue of organ donation.

Fortunately most people can tell the difference between reality and fiction.

[Glenn.]

The doctor even said its a complete con

[Rob!]

It's tonight :amazed:

I'm at work till 11 :bawling:

[Glenn.]

Really looking forward to it :amazed:

[Scarlett.]

Please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown.

[Rob!]

Please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown, please don't be a letdown.

Nearly all the spoiler free reviews I've read have said it's fantastic. Also worth noting that previewers normally get about one or two plot points that they are not even allowed to mention in their review. This episode there are seven apparently.
I'm going to have to stay off the internet till I get home.

[Jarrod]

:suspect: Well, that was a strange ending.

[Glenn.]

I'm still scratching my head tbh.

has Clara gone now?

[Tom4784]

It was definitely the best season finale since Moffat took over. There's only a couple of things that niggled at me.

(seemingly) Killing off Missy was a mistake. Michelle Gomez was brilliant in the role and I'd have liked to have seen her again as The Master.

The ending felt a bit off, if that is the end of Clara's story then it's a disappointing one. Even Martha got a more satisfying sendoff.

Aside from that though I loved it.

[Jarrod]

Jenna was confirmed a while back for the Christmas episode.

[Jarrod]

I loved the twist they put on the opening titles :amazed:

[Scarlett.]

I think Clara will definately be back in some capacity at Christmas, they can't just leave it like that, lol.

[Scarlett.]

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[Jarrod]

All the ratings added to the OP

[Rob!]

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Finn from Misfits! :amazed:

[Scarlett.]

Christmas episode is called "Last Christmas"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3Pwx9xIAAEhk_7.jpg:large

[Marsh.]

:amazed: Title





:umm2: Poster

[Rob!]

Nice title!

[Scarlett.]

Really enjoyed that episode, perhaps my favourite Christmas episode yet

That fakeout near the end though, lol

[Firewire]

Loved the episode, although my one criticism is that when the crab was coming towards Clara, why didn't she just run out the door? (I know it was a dream but even still)

[Firewire]

Glad Clara will be back for all of series 9 though, she has so much more left to give

[Scarlett.]

Loved the episode, although my one criticism is that when the crab was coming towards Clara, why didn't she just run out the door?

Nightmare logic :smug:

[Sticks]

Glad Clara will be back for all of series 9 though, she has so much more left to give

You mean Jenna-Louise Coleman?:joker:

[Samm]

Wish Clara would of just left, the old version of her was the perfect ending

[Firewire]

You mean Jenna-Louise Coleman?:joker:



?

[Sticks]

?

She plays Clara, there was talk she would be leaving but according to on report when those rumours circulated, she was unable to say anything as that might give away plots of future episodes

[Firewire]

She plays Clara, there was talk she would be leaving but according to on report when those rumours circulated, she was unable to say anything as that might give away plots of future episodes

Yes that's what I was referring to

[Marsh.]

I don't mind Clara all that much but I would have liked Capaldi to get a new companion for series 9.

If only because it still feels like he's being lumbered with Matt Smith era castoffs. I want him to have his own characters etc.

[Scarlett.]

That young girl in the episode would have made a good companion, perhaps she still will?

[Marsh.]

DS is calling for Natalie Gumede. :umm2: Can't stand her.

[Samm]

Yasss Natalie plz plz

[Jamesy]

I don't mind Clara staying alone for a little while longer tbh. Capaldi will no doubt be the longest running Nu Who Doctor so he will get some of his own companions in future.

Good episode last night too. The CGI was good quality too. Looking forward to seeing what they do next year. Although I must say even as a fan of most of Moffat's writing style, I think he needs to leave the show soon, would be nice to see someone else take over the lead writer role.

[Firewire]

I don't mind Clara staying alone for a little while longer tbh. Capaldi will no doubt be the longest running Nu Who Doctor so he will get some of his own companions in future.

Good episode last night too. The CGI was good quality too. Looking forward to seeing what they do next year. Although I must say even as a fan of most of Moffat's writing style, I think he needs to leave the show soon, would be nice to see someone else take over the lead writer role.

As long as it's not Mark Gatiss, I'd be happy. Could see Chris Chibnall becoming showrunner if Moffat left.

[Scarlett.]

The writer of Flatline/Mummy on the Orient Express seemed fit for the job IMO

[Firewire]

The writer of Flatline/Mummy on the Orient Express seemed fit for the job IMO

Jamie Mathieson would be great, I said this to myself after both of those episodes aired

[Tom4784]

Great episode, I'm glad that Clara's back for Season 9.

I don't think that they need to bring in a new companion for Capaldi, Clara was thrived as a character with Capaldi's doctor and I can see her being the defining companion of his run already. She makes it easy to forget that she was a companion to Matt Smith's Doctor first.