*** The Big Brother 16 ratings thread***

[jackc1806]

Sorry - is that +1 real? It got no viewers on +1 whatsoever? :umm2:

Well it would have done, even if that was real. Just a negligible amount of the 1000 or so who determine the TV ratings.

[ruiphillips]

Big Brother (1.06m/5.6%). (Exc +1)

[Will.]

Big Brother (1.06m/5.6%). (Exc +1)

thats low, but +1 should be high

[Ross.]

It's important to remind people 1000 people in the country determine what the ratings are with special BARB boxes. Officials are much more accurate and what C5 will be looking at

This. :laugh:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ouch just catching up on the last 2 days.

Terrible ratings.

[Jamesy]

Big Brother (1.06m/5.6%). (Exc +1)

Well it's not below 1 million I guess, still not great though

Dreading what will happen with the ratings tonight what with Eurovision. They should have not bothered with an episode tonight

[Jemal]

Hearing 1.2m overall.

[Rob!]

Well it's not below 1 million I guess, still not great though

Dreading what will happen with the ratings tonight what with Eurovision. They should have not bothered with an episode tonight

I'm gonna hazard a guess at about 500k if that. :(

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Does anyone know when we find out the officials? :shrug:
BB15's overnights averaged at about 1.2million, but the officials added another 300K. So far, this series has been averaging about 1.17 in the overnights (if my calculations are correct), so we could potentially see ratings similar to last year (nothing to boast about but hardly a crisis).

[crazycolaist]

Is 1million actually 1million people? Or is that 1million TV's tuned into BB? Because if its the later then a lot more people could be watching. (Say half of 1million are a couple etc)

[Beetlejuice]

Does anyone know when we find out the officials? :shrug:
BB15's overnights averaged at about 1.2million, but the officials added another 300K. So far, this series has been averaging about 1.17 in the overnights (if my calculations are correct), so we could potentially see ratings similar to last year (nothing to boast about but hardly a crisis).

Given how well BB14 did and the positive feedback they got for it, it's amazing to me that they didn't learn from that. It really felt like things were moving in the right direction and that they might make changes to the website and put the live coverage on there for longer than the 2 hours they were giving us. But here we are 2 years later and, apart from some positivity towards the more likable HMs, it's struggling worse than last years show. Fans are once again left disappointed.

[Will.]

Big Brother highlights attracted 594k (2.8%)

As expected

[RichardG]

That's better than I thought it would do to be honest :joker:

[ruiphillips]

Not a CSI episode rating higer :joker:

[crazycolaist]

Is that the worst rating for BB we've ever had?

[VanessaFeltz.]

I thought it was gonna get 200k

[Will.]

Excluding +1

[crazycolaist]

On the other hand, Eurovision got 6.6million

[Jamesy]

Not bad, I was expecting 200k at most haha

[crazycolaist]

Officials will be better. But heh. I imagine the guys at Viacom are abit bummed out right now.

[Jamesy]

On the other hand, Eurovision got 6.6million

Wow that's pretty bad for Eurovision

Last year it got 8.8m

[Jamesy]

I doubt Viacom or Channel 5 are that bothered about Big Brother's rating last night. It was a given Big Brother wasn't going to perform well last night

[MB.]

594k doesn't make it the lowest-rated show - the penultimate day of BB13 had 513k. Both with +1.

[RichardG]

I doubt Viacom or Channel 5 are that bothered about Big Brother's rating last night. It was a given Big Brother wasn't going to perform well last night

I'm sure it was totally expected, but it is just yet another low rating for the series. They're probably pretty frustrated.

[billy123]

Wow that's pretty bad for Eurovision

Last year it got 8.8mThe difference is they dont rely on advertising revenue though it makes no difference to the bbc they still get the same money.
C5 dont they have to deliver the numbers otherwise the people placing adverts pay less and with big brother costing £40 million a year that is a problem.

[Jamesy]

The difference is they dont rely on advertising revenue though it makes no difference to the bbc they still get the same money.
C5 dont they have to deliver the numbers otherwise the people placing adverts pay less and with big brother costing £40 million a year that is a problem.

I didn't say anything about money. Just that the Eurovision rating was worse than last years.

One night at 500k does not mean advertisers are going to move away from the Big Brother slot. Ratings this year have been pretty much on par with BB15 so advertising is unlikely to change around Big Brother. It also depends on the product placements and also the sponsors as well as the ad breaks (which again doesn't seem to be affected this year). Big Brother still made a profit last year (according to Ben Frow) so I doubt that will change much this year.

[Rob!]

Considering quite a few people thought it would be below 500k, it's not the worst possible outcome.
I can't wait for these officials to come out. I hope they change the way these ratings look because it's ****ing depressing :laugh:

[billy123]

I didn't say anything about money. Just that the Eurovision rating was worse than last years.

One night at 500k does not mean advertisers are going to move away from the Big Brother slot. Ratings this year have been pretty much on par with BB15 so advertising is unlikely to change around Big Brother. It also depends on the product placements and also the sponsors as well as the ad breaks (which again doesn't seem to be affected this year). Big Brother still made a profit last year (according to Ben Frow) so I doubt that will change much this year.I was commenting on how the ratings arent as important for the BBC as they are for C5 which is relevant to what you posted. http://www.directsmiley.com/cat/10/10_5_136.gif
No need to be so defensive.
Eurovision averages about 180 million viewers every year.

[Jamesy]

I was commenting on how the ratings arent as important for the BBC as they are for C5 which is relevant to what you posted. http://www.directsmiley.com/cat/10/10_5_136.gif
No need to be so defensive.
Eurovision averages about 180 million viewers every year.

I wasn't being defensive, just replying to you :umm2:

[Tony1111]

Haven't watched it since Thursday to be honest... :hehe:

Need to do a marathon tonight after work which means I will miss tonight's episode again. To be honest I have missed most of the past few days because of unsociable work hours from my crappy job. :fist:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ive got vids on youtube with more views.......Its that bad!.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I didn't say anything about money. Just that the Eurovision rating was worse than last years.

One night at 500k does not mean advertisers are going to move away from the Big Brother slot. Ratings this year have been pretty much on par with BB15 so advertising is unlikely to change around Big Brother. It also depends on the product placements and also the sponsors as well as the ad breaks (which again doesn't seem to be affected this year). Big Brother still made a profit last year (according to Ben Frow) so I doubt that will change much this year.

I disagree the ad breaks are very short this year. Seems like no one wants to advertise during BB. Theres like 2 ads between each break.

[Jamesy]

I disagree the ad breaks are very short this year. Seems like no one wants to advertise during BB. Theres like 2 ads between each break.
There was a 7 minute break on last nights show lol

The ad breaks have been as long as they always are

[Rob!]

849k (4.3%) :umm2:

[Will.]

849k (4.3%) :umm2:

omg lol, what is up with these ratings! Last night episode was really good.

I bet producers are planning something big now!

[jackc1806]

849k (4.3%) :umm2:

Should be back over 1m tonight- but dreadful. I think half term will help it this week (barring Friday)

[Jay.]

well most loved was on last night so no wonder it flopped

[Will.]

well most loved was on last night so no wonder it flopped

whats most loved

[Rob!]

Are officials released today?

[Will.]

Are officials released today?

yep people said it was today

[Jay.]

whats most loved

a forum game lmao

[jackc1806]

Are officials released today?

Should be, is a bank holiday though

[Will.]

a forum game lmao

oh lol

[Will.]

BGT live starts tonight but finished before BB begins

[RichardG]

the ratings this year are abysmal :umm2:

i can't complain though, i haven't watched for 5 days :laugh: hopefully they'll pick up, not sure i can see that happening though tbh.

[Jamesy]

These ratings are so bizarre :laugh:

[ruiphillips]

**** series, **** ratings.

[mrmattybeck1]

May start has really effected it so far ugh :(

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Under 1 million on a Sunday? Sunday is usually the highest rated day so god help the ratings this week could we be seeing sub 1 million all week?

I haven't watched it since Thursdsay as have been busy so recorded it all. It will be interesting to see the officials but I cant see them adding much.

Its been a very boring series thus far but like I said I haven't watched since Thursday so maybe theres been an actual argument or drama im unaware of?

Its bordering on BB4.

[Will.]

Under 1 million on a Sunday? Sunday is usually the highest rated day so god help the ratings this week could we be seeing sub 1 million all week?

I haven't watched it since Thursdsay as have been busy so recorded it all. It will be interesting to see the officials but I cant see them adding much.

Its been a very boring series thus far but like I said I haven't watched since Thursday so maybe theres been an actual argument or drama im unaware of?

Its bordering on BB4.

It really kicked off on Friday, massive row, theres been loads of arguments on Saturday and Sunday.

[Jamesy]

May start has really effected it so far ugh :(

No doubt in 2016 they will go back to a June launch

[mrmattybeck1]

Under 1 million on a Sunday? Sunday is usually the highest rated day so god help the ratings this week could we be seeing sub 1 million all week?

I haven't watched it since Thursdsay as have been busy so recorded it all. It will be interesting to see the officials but I cant see them adding much.

Its been a very boring series thus far but like I said I haven't watched since Thursday so maybe theres been an actual argument or drama im unaware of?

Its bordering on BB4.
I still prefer it to last years series I found that very hard to watch at times

[mrmattybeck1]

Lol bb16 nothing like bb4 I've heard it all :)

[mrmattybeck1]

No doubt in 2016 they will go back to a June launch
Hopefully

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Lol bb16 nothing like bb4 I've heard it all :)

I find the housemates very similar to the BB4 cast. That's just my opinion.

[Blog Rider]

BB4 actually had more ratings then this series so far.

[Beetlejuice]

BB4 actually had more ratings then this series so far.

Big Brother 4 had good ratings. 4.6 million. Only BB3 and BB5 had significantly better ratings.

[Beetlejuice]

By the way, the opening night of the first Big Brother series on Channel 5 (CBB 8) drew an audience of 5.27 million

It seems they have managed to alienate 4 million viewers since then. It is worth remembering all the things that were promised with the Channel 5 reboot of the show - in particular the return of the red button live coverage, which never happened and which is all anyone could talk about for years.

There's only so many times you can let the fans of the show down before you drive them away.

[jackc1806]

By the way, the opening night of the first Big Brother series on Channel 5 (CBB 8) drew an audience of 5.27 million

It seems they have managed to alienate 4 million viewers since then. It is worth remembering all the things that were promised with the Channel 5 reboot of the show - in particular the return of the red button live coverage, which never happened and which is all anyone could talk about for years.

There's only so many times you can let the fans of the show down before you drive them away.

More to do with the fact there was heavy promotion and a lot of casual viewers- probably tuning in to see if Charlie Sheen entered (which was promised by the Star) than the prospect of red button coverage (which was inpossible anyway because 5 don't carry a red button service)

[Jason.]

Big Brother 4 had good ratings. 4.6 million. Only BB3 and BB5 had significantly better ratings.

BB4 had good ratings. But lost the additional 1.2m that BB3 gained for being a good series.

BB5 gained about 0.5m of that back.

[Jamesy]

By the way, the opening night of the first Big Brother series on Channel 5 (CBB 8) drew an audience of 5.27 million

It seems they have managed to alienate 4 million viewers since then. It is worth remembering all the things that were promised with the Channel 5 reboot of the show - in particular the return of the red button live coverage, which never happened and which is all anyone could talk about for years.

There's only so many times you can let the fans of the show down before you drive them away.

Well they haven't exactly lost 4 million viewers.

The latest CBB in January had 3.1 million viewers on average, and that's up on the first CBB series (CBB8, that you quote above) which only got 2.8 million average.

The first ever episode on C5 was obviously going to be the highest ever on Channel 5 given the hype of Big Brother moving to another channel. The second episode lost 2 million viewers, and from there the episodes were between the 2 million - 3 million mark anyway, which is pretty much how CBB performs now.

Civilian Big Brother on the other hand seems to be doing worse this year in terms of overnight figures. But on the whole Big Brother has stayed steady with viewing figures on Channel 5, even BB15 didn't do that bad with the final series average.

[RichardG]

More to do with the fact there was heavy promotion and a lot of casual viewers- probably tuning in to see if Charlie Sheen entered (which was promised by the Star) than the prospect of red button coverage (which was inpossible anyway because 5 don't carry a red button service)

I remember the mass disappointment online when Charlie Sheen didn't enter after all the rumours, and we were promised a 'big baywatch star' or whatever and ended up with Pamela Bach Hasselhoff :laugh:

[Beetlejuice]

More to do with the fact there was heavy promotion and a lot of casual viewers- probably tuning in to see if Charlie Sheen entered (which was promised by the Star) than the prospect of red button coverage (which was inpossible anyway because 5 don't carry a red button service)

Any channel can do the red button service. Channel 5 used to do it for The Farm.

It was heavily promoted and it was the return of a show that died on Channel 4. No one is expecting them to keep 5 million viewers, but it shows the potential it had to interest viewers and maintain them if they show had ever been done right, which it never has been.

[Beetlejuice]

Well they haven't exactly lost 4 million viewers.

The latest CBB in January for 3.1 million viewers on average, and that's up on the first CBB series (CBB8, that you quote above) which only got 2.8 million average.

The first ever episode on C5 was obviously going to be the highest ever on Channel 5 given the hype of Big Brother moving to another channel. The second episode lost 2 million viewers, and from there the episodes were between the 2 million - 3 million mark anyway, which is pretty much how CBB performs now.

Civilian Big Brother on the other hand seems to be doing worse this year in terms of overnight figures. But on the whole Big Brother has stayed steady with viewing figures on Channel 5, even BB15 didn't do that bad with the final series average.


Last years show earned them such bad will in regards to the normal series, it's hardly surprising.

But what is perhaps even more surprising is the refusal of "fans" to admit how shoddy the production values of this programme are. Do people really look at the website, the twitter updates, the silly twists and stupid tasks and think this is the best they can do?

And the selection of housemates is actually awful. The girls are all more mature than most of the guys and treat them like little brothers. What sort of dynamic was that ever going to create?

[Jamesy]

I don't think anyone refuses that the production is shoddy. People have complained on here for years about C5's Big Brother production values :laugh:

[Beetlejuice]

BB4 had good ratings. But lost the additional 1.2m that BB3 gained for being a good series.

BB5 gained about 0.5m of that back.

Sure. But BB3 and BB5 were probably the 2 best ever series. BB2, BB4 and BB6 all got 4.6 million. BB7 was going to do better but went down when Nikki got evicted.

[Jake.]

BB7 averaged 4.7

[Beetlejuice]

BB7 averaged 4.7

It was up at about 4.8 until week 8 (Nikki's eviction). Then its viewing figures dropped in week 9 to 4.2 and 4.1 in week 10.

The biggest drop off in BB viewers during the show was following the removal of Emily in BB8. The first week had an average of 4.7 million viewers and then the week following Emily's removal had an average of 3.1 million. There may have been other reasons for this (I think the first ever series of Hell's Kitchen was on ITV) but I do remember people thinking Emily had been used to atone for the criticism they received during the CBB with Shilpa.

[Beetlejuice]

If they had any sense they'd do any big twists this week (which it looks like they might be doing), what with it being half term and possibly picking up viewers after BGT has finished. The ratings might improve.

They brought back the 2 hour feed from midnight for BB14 in the third or fourth week as well.

[jackc1806]

780k (4.9%)

Hopefully without +1, awful tho.

[Jamesy]

Below 1 million for the foreseeable future then by the looks of it

I'm guessing we're due officials today too so hopefully they will be an improvement on the overnights

[ruiphillips]

Dropping faster than Helen's knickers.

[RichardG]

:umm2: I dread to think how low they'll be by the end of the series

[mrmattybeck1]

There appears to be a major ratings crisis will it be pulled

[JohnnyBB]

I dont think channel 5 will pull it unless it goes under 500k then were in trouble

[*mazedsalv**]

It's literally like watching a car crash in front of us, it's so bad.

Here are the +1 for Thursday-Sunday:

Thursday- 1.01m
Friday- 1.14m
Saturday- 670,000
Sunday- 950,000

The only one that doesn't look horrific is the eviction. I'll give Saturday the benefit of the doubt, but seriously Sunday and last night!! We are waiting for last nights +1, even though it probably will be under 850k.

Officials are out later for the first 6 days. And no matter how you look at it, they will look bad, because they will need to add at least half a million to look decent, when it will probably be less than 300k.

[Jamesy]

I wonder how low Channel 5 allow the show to go before they decide to do something drastic. These are bad ratings, but I wonder what the breaking point is for C5.

These ratings are just so strange. It's not particularly an amazing series, but then it's not a car crash either (in terms of entertainment). For 2016 they really need to analyse this series and see what points need to be improved on.

[*mazedsalv**]

Last night was 872,000 with +1. So bad!

Gotham ended it's run with a series low of 729,000 with +1. Benefits Street dropped to 1.5m, down from the huge 4.5-5.0m it was doing last year. BB did beat Ch4 in the 10pm slot though.

Every channel did badly last night bar the BGT performances, even the BGT results were 1.3m down on last years first result show and got 6.9m (when you think about the fact the first 6 audition shows were averaging 11m-11.5m). People have just disappeared from TV.

[Jemal]

I just think every tv channel apart from itv is doing crap this summer.

[Rob!]

I don't get it. I really don't get it. This series deserves so much better. :(

[*mazedsalv**]

I just think every tv channel apart from itv is doing crap this summer.

And only BGT is doing good for ITV anyway, and Corrie. Lets not forget that last Weds ITV broke a record for a 9pm show. Lowest 9pm non Tuesday rating ever with 900k with +1 :laugh: Things have gone under 1m on Tuesday as it's known as the "death slot", but 900k on a Wednesday is just unbelievable.

BBC1 is even struggling which rarely happens, their dramas are dropping like rocks. The only exception is the surprise hit Peter Kay's Car Share which has been getting between 4.5-4.9m and Graham Norton Show which is still managing over 3m.

[Rob!]

What has BOTS been getting?

[mrmattybeck1]

I think its time to rest bbuk and maybe just carry on with cbb twice a year

[Will.]

There probably doing a safe house twist this week try and boost ratings.

[RichardG]

There probably doing a safe house twist this week try and boost ratings.

If they did I can imagine it being a really rushed last minute room too like the one they put together for Perez in January. :laugh:

(but seriously I'm so sick of secret rooms, they'd better not do that)

[Will.]

If they did I can imagine it being a really rushed last minute room too like the one they put together for Perez in January. :laugh:

(but seriously I'm so sick of secret rooms, they'd better not do that)

yeah thats true! Although think it will be like a proper double eviction with a proper secret house, it could be at the top of the house behind the kitchen as the task room is at the bottom.

Probably be like Gina and Dexter double fake eviction, think that was last minute decision!

[Beetlejuice]

I think its time to rest bbuk and maybe just carry on with cbb twice a year

Or maybe... just maybe... Start listening to the fans of the show and bring back the 24/7 live coverage (too late to save this years debacle), a good website, and put a bit more thought into the housemates. Why they would pick men who are younger and weaker than all of the women in there is beyond me.

I am fed up with people trying to put this down to the format of the show and it needing a rest, when the truth is they need to return to the original format, go back to basics (in a more modern form) and stop alienating the fans.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So no officials?

[jackc1806]

Tue- 2.1million
Wed- 1.38m (no +1)
Thur- 1.43m (no +1)
Fri- 1.45m (no +1)
Sat- Less than 990k, but 134k on +1
Sun- 1.37m

[Will.]

Tue- 2.1million
Wed- 1.38m (no +1)
Thur- 1.43m (no +1)
Fri- 1.45m (no +1)
Sat- Less than 990k, but 134k on +1
Sun- 1.37m

averaging 1.45 for the first week

[Jay.]

so is that the officials? is it good? i'm guessing it is but i honestly dk

[Will.]

so is that the officials? is it good? i'm guessing it is but i honestly dk

not that good but not disastrous

[Beetlejuice]

Looks dire to me. The 2.1 figure from the opening night makes it look slightly better, but the week 2 average will be less than 1.4 and week 3 will go down further.

[LukeB]

What were yesterdays ratings?

[Gstar]

axe ha

[Jake.]

3 ratings without plus 1

[Jamesy]

So far it's lower than last years average then, which was 1.6m.

[mrmattybeck1]

May launch has killed it

[Denver]

You do realise it has been a bank holiday with very nice weather? I think TV was least of everyone priorities

[Gypsy]

why do people always think of crap reasons for these **** ratings!

ohhh it was good weather :)
ohhhhhh people have exams they have to revise hehe :)
ohhhhhhhhh it was a bank holiday everyone was outside having a nice bbq :)

i am enjoying this series though

[Rob!]

So the officials have taken it up to what Power Trip was getting overnight on a good week. Jolly good :laugh:

With our first officials out, it's officially a ratings flop I think.

[iRyan]

The very beginning of this series was mediocre which may have turned some people off I think, but I think it's been ****ing A+ like the last 6 or 7 episodes and deserves much better ratings so I hope people catch on.

[Rob!]

The very beginning of this series was mediocre which may have turned some people off I think, but I think it's been ****ing A+ like the last 6 or 7 episodes and deserves much better ratings so I hope people catch on.

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Beetlejuice]

How people can think this show deserves applause is beyond me. It is the biggest shambles on television. No one knows what is going on, they say one thing and then don't follow through on it. It is an appalling series and to see people actually defending it and even praising it just makes me think "Christ, they're never going to realize how bad it has become"

[armand.kay]

deserves the low ratings the series has been trash.

[crazycolaist]

After a bit of research BARB ratings are probably way off.



How are TV viewing figures calculated?
How much of a programme do you have to watch before you are deemed to have "viewed" it?
THERE is a panel, administered by BARB, of around 4,000 UK households, each of which has a monitoring device - a "peoplemeter" - attached to the television set(s). The 13,000-odd individuals in these households are taken to represent the entire viewing population, although the importance (weight) of each panellist is varied so as to represent the general population as accurately as possible when grouped by socio-demographic criteria. You only have to watch a programme for one minute to be deemed a viewer, but if the programme is, say, 30 minutes long, then this single minute only counts for 1/30 of the programme. So the published "ratings" are actually an average for each of the minutes of the programme. I have heard of a country in South America where the people-meters are connected directly to the TV broadcasters, who can change their output in real-time to satisfy the panel.

Thats right 19,000 peoples TV's represent all those who own a tv licence (30million is a guess) So bassicly they can be totally right or totally wrong with a obvious out of date algorithm. we will never know. Sad really.

Source http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-2697,00.html

[RichardG]

Ratings have probably been calculated in the exact same way for the entirety of the shows history though. If they were accurate when they were giving Big Brother 5m+ viewers a night then they're accurate now when they give Big Brother sub-1m a night. :laugh:

I'm sure if there were any major doubts over the method of estimating viewing figures then it would've been picked up and changed by now.

[crazycolaist]

Ratings have probably been calculated in the exact same way for the entirety of the shows history though. If they were accurate when they were giving Big Brother 5m+ viewers a night then they're accurate now when they give Big Brother sub-1m a night. :laugh:

I'm sure if there were any major doubts over the method of estimating viewing figures then it would've been picked up and changed by now.



you forget that 10 or 5 years ago we didnt have on demand & sky+ only just started to become popular, legal online viewing etc etc. A lot has changed in the TV intertwine tech dynamics & Id like to see how they calculate how many people are sitting at the tv on average with just 19,000 tv's. Its really bad & is far from accurate results if thats the way its calculated in 2015. They should get with the times. I'm not saying they could be better or worse but they are inaccurate with the way they get 'official' ratings

[JohnnyBB]

All Aboard Guys.. its Time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2vvrjuc.jpg

[crazycolaist]

All Aboard Guys.. its Time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2vvrjuc.jpg

Princess Britanna as CBB plz? (The boat what saved the surviors in this sarcastic case the BB production team for atleast CBB etc) its sad because I love the show but rip

[RichardG]

you forget that 10 or 5 years ago we didnt have on demand & sky+ only just started to become popular, legal online viewing etc etc. A lot has changed in the TV intertwine tech dynamics & Id like to see how they calculate how many people are sitting at the tv on average with just 19,000 tv's. Its really bad & is far from accurate results if thats the way its calculated in 2015. They should get with the times.

I thought stuff like on demand viewing is included in the 'officials' released a few weeks later??

[crazycolaist]

I thought stuff like on demand viewing included in the 'officials' released a few weeks later??

Then why are people calling officials a disaster then? Most people use the 21st century way of watching tv & if anyone thinks otherwise then they are thinking old school. Lets wait for the official officials then where the services which are provided (on demand) is very much used (hence why companies like BT,Virgin are companing about bandwith issues because internet TV is here & very well placed in all our lives now and our internet usage has gone up so far because of this (& people who say youtube aswell are well. Youtube was created in 2005. Its on demand what has got internet providers real pee'd off because its constantly used I've been back on this forum for a month & it feels I am rolling with a load of conservatives or something? There is f all progression on this topic & with On demand & people already calling it a failure they are far from progressive types. Get real Get 2015 not directed at anyone in general but this way much negativity.

[RichardG]

Because the officials for the first few days have just been released and they're still quite low. Many use on demand services to watch tv, yes, they're just not using it to watch Big Brother. :laugh:

[crazycolaist]

Because the officials for the first few days have just been released and they're still quite low. Many use on demand services to watch tv, yes, they're just not using it to watch Big Brother. :laugh:


There are 25million tv licences lets double that to 2 tv's per licence (probably the average) they use 19,000 tvs to calculate 50million tvs & comparing 19,000 (weirdly around 3.5% of tv's as of 2014 to 10% is double & very substancial & a highly odd number with very probable wrong results by about 6.5% (the difference between the percentages of inaccurate and accurate) a 6.5% accuracy bender in the world of science would seriously be laughed at. How on earth is that acurate at such a small fraction to a small percentage 10% of viewers from BARB and you would see much better viewings) it just doesnt work out the results for a progressive & realistic person. I actually feel bad for the producers now :(

[RichardG]

I'd imagine that if there were reasonable significant doubts about the accuracy of the figures they would've been picked up long ago by the professional guys? :shrug: idk maybe you're right but this just sounds to me like we're making excuses for the poor figures, I doubt we'd be questioning the method if ratings of 2m+ were being released. :laugh: I guess we'll just have to leave it to Channel 5 (and the advertisers) to decide whether they want to believe them or not.

[Beetlejuice]

All Aboard Guys.. its Time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2vvrjuc.jpg

That needs to do the rounds on twitter.

[crazycolaist]

I'd imagine that if there were reasonable significant doubts about the accuracy of the figures they would've been picked up long ago by the professional guys? :shrug: idk maybe you're right but this just sounds to me like we're making excuses for the poor figures, I doubt we'd be questioning the method if ratings of 2m+ were being released. :laugh: I guess we'll just have to leave it to Channel 5 (and the advertisers) to decide whether they want to believe them or not.

Its just easy to say blah blah blah got one million viewers (is a viewer a tv or a person) and its just a big shiBer storm because we dont even know how accurate (or if) they are. Sad. Its not the excuses its just the unprogressive circlejerk when I have failed to see 1 person state the fact viewers are calculated & from my research BARB is pretty innacurate the way they get their viewership (live tv wise anyway) Yes BB is better back in the day but if half of the million people watching are a couple thats easily 1.5m & then youve got groups of people etc. i just dont understand any credibility from BARB when they only watch 3.5% peoples TV habits & they have changed & seem very inaccurate in 2015 (yet again they cannot say 1 episode on demand or sky recording is 1 person and its exactly that is what makes this whole bitch worthless

[Jamesy]

All Aboard Guys.. its Time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2vvrjuc.jpg
:joker:

[T*]

why do people always think of crap reasons for these **** ratings!

ohhh it was good weather :)
ohhhhhh people have exams they have to revise hehe :)
ohhhhhhhhh it was a bank holiday everyone was outside having a nice bbq :)

i am enjoying this series though


Ikr

[T*]

All Aboard Guys.. its Time.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2vvrjuc.jpg


:joker:

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother increased by 150k last night to average 1.00m incl +1. Still bad and I reckon it's too little too late. Ben Frow is not happy.

[Will.]

Big Brother increased by 150k last night to average 1.00m incl +1. Still bad and I reckon it's too little too late. Ben Frow is not happy.

LOL at Ben being annoyed, its a good series but theres ways it can be improved

[*mazedsalv**]

LOL at Ben being annoyed, its a good series but theres ways it can be improved

Yep, the Ben bit was from an email that Oathy received this morning so if Ben is unhappy, I can imagine the guys over at Ch5 are feeling a little bit worse for wear.

Interesting that I applied for an internship for Ch5 a few months back but heard nothing back, I would have been there to replay info to forums if I was a fly in the wall! :laugh:

[Jake.]

Where is this email?

[*mazedsalv**]

Where is this email?

I'll direct you to the BB16 DS Ratings Thread.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2068564&page=25

Oathy says he will let us know immediately when he gets another reply.

[jackc1806]

There are 25million tv licences lets double that to 2 tv's per licence (probably the average) they use 19,000 tvs to calculate 50million tvs & comparing 19,000 (weirdly around 3.5% of tv's as of 2014 to 10% is double & very substancial & a highly odd number with very probable wrong results by about 6.5% (the difference between the percentages of inaccurate and accurate) a 6.5% accuracy bender in the world of science would seriously be laughed at. How on earth is that acurate at such a small fraction to a small percentage 10% of viewers from BARB and you would see much better viewings) it just doesnt work out the results for a progressive & realistic person. I actually feel bad for the producers now :(

It's the same system for every show in the country. The panel is socially economically diverse ect so each demographic is represented- it's not just a random selection

[crazycolaist]

It's the same system for every show in the country. The panel is socially economically diverse ect so each demographic is represented- it's not just a random selection

You need to research. Nilsen is far ahead than BARB & you fail to mention a big reason why we are not like most countrys. The TV licence. Which affects how audiences is mesured considerably different to say the US & Canada.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings
There are also 112 MILLION Nielsen familes & 320million live in the US & around 96% own a tv (so thats what 317million) Our systems are waaay different and we only represent a pathetic 3% whilst US Nielsen ratings represents 50-80% go do your homework man because the facts tell me our rating system is not as accurate & from the way you guys moan is kinda sad because these arent atall accurate when delt with facts n key stats & comparisons. But if you still disproove this then im sad for you bro)

[ruiphillips]

That's what they get for this and last series ****ty series.

[Kai Anders]

This series is screaming for an Armageddon twist to create interest. It's never in the news, social media, youtube etc. IMO this series just lacks a general buzz. I won't go as far as to say its boring, it's just not as entertaining as we've had recently.

[Will.]

Yeah probably will do something like that, Arm.... Was good apart from Danieel being robbed of her place in the house. The best thing was Marlon going

[Beetlejuice]

Yeah probably will do something like that, Arm.... Was good apart from Danieel being robbed of her place in the house. The best thing was Marlon going

Marlon going... The first time someone was evicted without a public vote. One of the low points of last years show. Another example of the show being rigged. And that was the best part of it?

[Will.]

Marlon going... The first time someone was evicted without a public vote. One of the low points of last years show. Another example of the show being rigged. And that was the best part of it?

As long as someone annoying goes the it's good

[MB.]

This series is screaming for an Armageddon twist to create interest.

It really isn't. That's what they're trying to do at the moment and it's making the show worse.

The show needs to strip back and focus on regaining (or even retaining) viewers through methods that aren't twists to rock the house to its very core.

[Beetlejuice]

First time in Big Brother history? BB11?

Four new housemates confirmed.

[Rob!]

I can't believe they're airing this twist on the night that's it got SO much competition it's not even funny. There's no way this will rate well on Friday. Isn't even the +1 against something?

[Will.]

I can't believe they're airing this twist on the night that's it got SO much competition it's not even funny. There's no way this will rate well on Friday. Isn't even the +1 against something?

yeah! Hopefully they extend it till 11, so it can do well between 10-11

[Will.]

950k last night with +1, good share of 6.7%

Last year only got 6.0%, so this year is higher by 0.7%

[crazycolaist]

Mehh feeling like the average overnights is going to hit or miss the 1million mark

[RichardG]

950k :umm2:

not good, they're gonna need far more than 4 new entrants to boost the ratings this year (if that's even possible anymore)

[JohnnyBB]

Im feeling posative raitings will be on the rise after this weekend.

[Jamesy]

The share is good on that one.

Will be interesting to see what happens from Monday when the main competition (BGT) has ended.

[Beetlejuice]

Im feeling posative raitings will be on the rise after this weekend.

:laugh:

[jackc1806]

Nice share, but should still have more viewers

[Beetlejuice]

I think it's charming how people have become so concerned about the share

[Will.]

will the removal improves ratings?

BB14 got 1.77, around 300k above average

so maybe 1.3 tonight

[jackc1806]

will the removal improves ratings?

BB14 got 1.77, around 300k above average

so maybe 1.3 tonight

Nah it won't get that much

[Jamesy]

I think it's charming how people have become so concerned about the share

No ones concerned about it.

Generally it is a good indicator of how many people watching TV were watching Big Brother, and a good comparison for previous years.

[Beetlejuice]

No ones concerned about it.

Generally it is a good indicator of how many people watching TV were watching Big Brother, and a good comparison for previous years.

The only rating that matters is the sub-million one.

[Jamesy]

The only rating that matters is the sub-million one.

Both the rating and share work hand in hand.

[Beetlejuice]

Both the rating and share work hand in hand.

If they were concerned about the share they wouldn't be doing the drastic things they're doing.

Though still no Live feed :joker:

[Jamesy]

If they were concerned about the share they wouldn't be doing the drastic things they're doing.

Though still no Live feed :joker:

I agree there although the shares have been pretty bad since the series started. Last nights share wasn't too bad.

I doubt live feed will ever happen with these numpties in charge, but we can dream. :laugh:

If you haven't seen the news yet they've axed tomorrow nights 30 minutes live feed due to the main show being extended by 30 mins! Which is annoying since we will get no live feed tomorrow to see what these new housemates are up to.

[Beetlejuice]

I agree there although the shares have been pretty bad since the series started. Last nights share wasn't too bad.

I doubt live feed will ever happen with these numpties in charge, but we can dream. :laugh:

If you haven't seen the news yet they've axed tomorrow nights 30 minutes live feed due to the main show being extended by 30 mins! Which is annoying since we will get no live feed tomorrow to see what these new housemates are up to.

Hardly matters. The 30 minutes live usually amounted to about 20. The whole thing is a joke at this point.

The worst thing about it is they're blaming the housemates for the failure of the show that is all down to the producers. No live coverage. Awful website. Useless twitter updates. I've never seen anything so shoddy in television in my life. It's becoming fascinating to watch just because of that.

[Will.]

Maybe 1.2-3 for tonight, first time it's trended since launch

[reece(:]

Will tomorrow soar or flop?

[Rob!]

1.1m if it's lucky tbh.

[jackc1806]

Big Brother climbed a little to 1.00m (6.3%) following yesterday's drama.

[jackc1806]

welp

[Will.]

not to bad, thats without +1? The share is good though! Expected a bit higher

[Jamesy]

The share is good. Although it's rather depressing 1 million is a climb, welp.

[Will.]

1.09 with plus 1, a high share of 7.3% in total

[jackc1806]

1.1m with +1

550k for BOTS

[RichardG]

I just can't get excited about a high share when the actually figures are still so low. :laugh: I'm glad it didn't fall to below 1m though, at least that's something. I'm surprised BOTS does as well as it does too, I barely ever bother with it.

Maybe 1.1m tonight??

[Jamesy]

I'd say 1.2 tonight, maybe 1.3 if we're lucky.

[jackc1806]

I'd say 1.2 tonight, maybe 1.3 if we're lucky.

First half will be like 800k, second half might reach a million.

[uniquedude]

Last night was 872,000 with +1. So bad!

Gotham ended it's run with a series low of 729,000 with +1. Benefits Street dropped to 1.5m, down from the huge 4.5-5.0m it was doing last year. BB did beat Ch4 in the 10pm slot though.

Every channel did badly last night bar the BGT performances, even the BGT results were 1.3m down on last years first result show and got 6.9m (when you think about the fact the first 6 audition shows were averaging 11m-11.5m). People have just disappeared from TV.

Isn't it ironic considering how bad tv ratings have gotten in general that Gogglebox is c4's most popular show lol.

[reece(:]

Big Brother climbed a little to 1.00m (6.3%) following yesterday's drama.
Serving a Hollyoaks tea

[Pete.]

1.1m with +1

550k for BOTS
slayy

[Kai Anders]

So if this ratings is a flop, and rumours of it getting the chop or a smaller run time than scheduled, how does this affect the other 3 commissioned years of the show? Like surely it'd cost a hell of a lot to get out of, and perhaps this is the one series that holds a significant drop, after all Secrets and Lies attained 350K on the previous year, not too bad! Such a gamble tho!

[Beetlejuice]

Maybe they'll axe this years show and go out of their way to make next years a success (live coverage/website/good housemates/more thoughtful tasks) and if that fails axe it altogether.

I'm expecting them to axe it altogether this year though. They just will not return to that original format no matter how many fans tell them it needs to happen.

[jackc1806]

Big Brother: 1.04m (6.0%) over the two hours. (exc. +1)

Interestingly, Big Brother's Bit on the Side almost DOUBLED its usual Friday night audience, despite airing half an hour later than usual. An eyecatching 0.80m (6.1%) stuck around until midnight.

[jackc1806]

That BOTS figure is fantastic

[Will.]

Big Brother: 1.04m (6.0%) over the two hours. (exc. +1)

Interestingly, Big Brother's Bit on the Side almost DOUBLED its usual Friday night audience, despite airing half an hour later than usual. An eyecatching 0.80m (6.1%) stuck around until midnight.

thats not to bad, at least its improving, I expect big plus figures as people probably watched Corrie and BGT then switched over at 10pm

[Will.]

wow thats fantastic for bots, lol and they want to axe this series when there side show is nearly getting 1 million lmao

[Pete.]

Big Brother: 1.04m

nnn a flop - they were expecting 1.50m at least

But well done BOTS :clap1:

[Pete.]

wow thats fantastic for bots, lol and they want to axe this series when there side show is nearly getting 1 million lmao
This could mean that there is a sizeable audience for BB but most people are watching elsewhere?

I'll wait for the BARB ratings to see the catch up figures tbh

[Will.]

nnn a flop - they were expecting 1.50m at least

But well done BOTS :clap1:

it could still get 1.2-3 with plus 1, JoJo eviction got 140k on +1

[Rob!]

That's not as bad as it could have been, especially for BOTS. It's still a **** rating but considering the competition and length of the show it's not that bad. +1 should take it up to at least 1.1m.

[*mazedsalv**]

When you note that it was up against Corrie and BGT, 1.04m is actually good. I expected 800k with +1, but this looks like it will be 1.10m or something with +1. It will be interesting if we get the breakdown and see how much the show climbed in its 2nd hour when BGT finished.

That rating for BOTS is fantastic though, it's around about what BOTS got for CBB in January. 800k+ for a show that's 11pm-midnight is very rare for CH5. So, weirdly enough, that many people (despite people moaning online) still wanted to watch a 3rd hour of BB.

Also, BB beat 8 Out of 10 Cats for the first time this year, it got 930,000 excl +1, down from it's average of around 1.3-1.4m.

[Beetlejuice]

It just means people stuck around to see the 4 housemates who are no longer on the show on BOTS. Hardly a great success is it? Those 4 housemates are gone for good.

[Beetlejuice]

That rating for BOTS is fantastic though, it's around about what BOTS got for CBB in January. 800k+ for a show that's 11pm-midnight is very rare for CH5. So, weirdly enough, that many people (despite people moaning online) still wanted to watch a 3rd hour of BB.

Of course they did. They probably wanted to see if one of the 4 people evicted thumped a presenter/producer.

I love how people try to dress this up as a success.

[jackc1806]

Interested to see what effect this will have tonight, Sunday and into next week

[*mazedsalv**]

It just means people stuck around to see the 4 housemates who are no longer on the show on BOTS. Hardly a great success is it? Those 4 housemates are gone for good.

Maybe maybe not. But this is the highest BOTS of the series, so people still obviously wanted to see the aftermath. So the BOTS rating is more noteworthy than the show itself. We'll see on Sunday if it falls further, stays the same or climbs. We won't know until Sunday-Friday next week if this stunt worked.

[Ross.]

That BOTS rating though :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Of course they did. They probably wanted to see if one of the 4 people evicted thumped a presenter/producer.

I love how people try to dress this up as a success.

No matter how you see it, it IS a successful for THIS series. It was up against Corrie and especially BGT. I'm surprised it wasn't under 800k. People were predicting well under 1m for last night and I thought it'd die on its ass. But in fact the BGT results were the lowest of the week, so some would say that BB may have taken a few hundred thousand off BGT.

End of the day, producers will be happy that they received the highest excl +1 rating since the last eviction despite facing BGT and Corrie. If it was a normal eviction, it would have been down to half a million levels.

[Beetlejuice]

Maybe maybe not. But this is the highest BOTS of the series, so people still obviously wanted to see the aftermath. So the BOTS rating is more noteworthy than the show itself.

Yes but what is noteworthy about the show? The 4 housemates who got the figure up are now GONE.


We'll see on Sunday if it falls further, stays the same or climbs. We won't know until Sunday-Friday next week if this stunt worked.

I enjoy your optimism but the whole thing is a total disaster.

[Pete.]

Yes but what is noteworthy about the show? The 4 housemates who got the figure up are now GONE.




I enjoy your optimism but the whole thing is a total disaster.
Tbh

[Beetlejuice]

No matter how you see it, it IS a successful for THIS series.

No it's not.

It was up against Corrie and especially BGT. I'm surprised it wasn't under 800k. People were predicting well under 1m for last night and I thought it'd die on its ass.

I wasn't. And the second half was not up against either.

But in fact the BGT results were the lowest of the week, so some would say that BB may have taken a few hundred thousand off BGT.

End of the day, producers will be happy that they received the highest excl +1 rating since the last eviction despite facing BGT and Corrie. If it was a normal eviction, it would have been down to half a million levels.

Have you seen the negativity surrounding what happened last night? It has got so bad I wouldn't be surprised if people watch tonight out of curiosity. But that will not help this show in the long run. They have killed Big Brother and trying to salvage anything positive from the mess they have created is hilarious to me.

[*mazedsalv**]

I mean think of it this way, Eastenders also clashed with BGT and declined to 4.3m.

BGT ruins everything, when in fact BB was up against its average up against BGT. That's what I'm saying. The thing yesterday was to see how much BB would fall up against the biggest show of the year, and the answer was, it didn't fall, it actually climbed.

[jackc1806]

I thought 800k for the main show so I'm surprised

[*mazedsalv**]

No it's not.



I wasn't. And the second half was not up against either.



Have you seen the negativity surrounding what happened last night? It has got so bad I wouldn't be surprised if people watch tonight out of curiosity. But that will not help this show. They have killed Big Brother and trying to salvage anything positive from the mess they have created is hilarious to me.


A success for this series, IT WAS. THIS series, not previous series, THIS series. A success means that it got MORE than what it was previously getting. Im not comparing it to 2 years ago or whatever, I am comparing it to THIS year. THIS one, not another one. And when looking at the rating, the stunt kind of did work, because 80% of the audience followed in watching BOTS when usually it's 40%.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't a fan of the idea either, but you cannot judge how it will do until we see what happens next week.

If (but it won't happen) the series grew next week, will you still lie and say the stunt didn't work just because you hated it?

[Beetlejuice]

A success for this series, IT WAS. THIS series, not previous series, THIS series. A success means that it got MORE than what it was previously getting.

Of course it got more, it was the most desperate stunt in the history of the show. But it has killed the show stone dead and left nothing but negative feelings towards it.

Im not comparing it to 2 years ago or whatever, I am comparing it to THIS year. THIS one, not another one. And when looking at the rating, the stunt kind of did work, because 80% of the audience followed in watching BOTS when usually it's 40%.

They followed to watch the evicted housemates who are now gone for good from the show.

[*mazedsalv**]

Of course it got more, it was the most desperate stunt in the history of the show. But it has killed the show stone dead and left nothing but negative feelings towards it.



They followed to watch the evicted housemates who are now gone for good from the show.

Yes, there is a negative feeling but those people will probably want to watch if something happens.

And how do you know that they only watched to see the evicted HMs? Do you have proof of that? Just like I don't have proof that it will either succeed or fail next week, do you have proof that the 800,000 people tuned in for those evicted people? Do you? Is there a way? You won't have proof until you survey the 800k. So, no we don't know. Just like we don't know whether Live Feed would help the show by 10 viewers, 100k viewers or a million viewers.

[Jamesy]

Will be very interesting to see how the ratings pan out these next few days.

The main show didn't do too bad considering it was up against BGT and Corrie.

That BOTS rating though, wow, well done to them!

[Daniel-X]

I'll wait till tonight's highlights to comment on whether the show is getting better ratings because no doubt some will tune out if their favourites went last night but a few may tune in following what's been going on this last week.

I don't really think C5 should be expecting anything more than 1.2-1.3 million this week but we'll have to wait and see.

The BOTS rating is fantastic and the producers and executives should start taking other factors into consideration such as BGT week how everything as someone pointed out has declined in ratings this week but also look at the share I doubt for most of their shows they get over a 5% share.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'll wait till tonight's highlights to comment on whether the show is getting better ratings because no doubt some will tune out if their favourites went last night but a few may tune in following what's been going on this last week.

I don't really think C5 should be expecting anything more than 1.2-1.3 million this week but we'll have to wait and see.

The BOTS rating is fantastic and the producers and executives should start taking other factors into consideration such as BGT week how everything as someone pointed out has declined in ratings this week but also look at the share I doubt for most of their shows they get over a 5% share.

I won't be looking at tonights one because Saturdays never determine whether the previous night was a success. I mean last Sunday got 950,000 incl +1 I think, so I reckon if they get 1.1m, they will probably deem it as a success, I'd classify 1.2m next week a success, not 1.1m.

[Beetlejuice]

Yes, there is a negative feeling but those people will probably want to watch if something happens.

And how do you know that they only watched to see the evicted HMs? Do you have proof of that? Just like I don't have proof that it will either succeed or fail next week, do you have proof that the 800,000 people tuned in for those evicted people? Do you? Is there a way? You won't have proof until you survey the 800k. So, no we don't know. Just like we don't know whether Live Feed would help the show by 10 viewers, 100k viewers or a million viewers.

You're sounding like a combination of Veri and Dancc on DS. What is the point of all of this? The show has been mutilated. It's like looking for positives after being confronted with a rape victim. People hung around to see the 4 evicted housemates. What else would they have hung around for?

Let's just say this series somehow went up 1.4 million now. It would still be a disaster. The show is quite possibly the worst thing on television and you're so busy looking at the ratings you're failing to notice the sheer awfulness of it all.

[RichardG]

No ones expecting record breaking ratings this year so I guess we might as well just be happy when we see an increase. If we even find negatives in a 100k+ increase in overnight figures and huge boost to BOTS then why are we even on this forum? :laugh:

[Beetlejuice]

No ones expecting record breaking ratings this year so I guess we might as well just be happy when we see an increase.

Why would people be happy to see an increase in ratings for something so obviously crap?

[Will.]

Why would people be happy to see an increase in ratings for something so obviously crap?

omg is there anything you like about BB?

[JohnnyBB]

My only worry is alot of bb fans will now stop watching after last nights massacre, theyll be pissed off, raitings could bounce over the weekend with the casual veiwers but they could be lost by the end of next week, could leave the raitings in a worser state.

[Beetlejuice]

omg is there anything you like about BB?

At this point... No. As I said, they have mutilated the show

[Rob!]

At this point... No. As I said, they have mutilated the show

Then why the hell are you posting on a BB forum if you've got nothing positive to say? i'm so bored of reading your negative posts, I had you on ignore but people constantly quote you to argue against your constant moaning!!

[Locke.]

After all their awful twists and desperation for headlines they only drag in 1.04m lol. Should fall much lower tonight after the travesty they produced last night.

[Beetlejuice]

Then why the hell are you posting on a BB forum if you've got nothing positive to say? i'm so bored of reading your negative posts, I had you on ignore but people constantly quote you to argue against your constant moaning!!

I was once hardcore fan of BB. I am saddened by what it has become and wish to express that. Where else to do that but on a BB forum? It deserves every bit of criticism it gets.

Why are people who are fans of BB finding anything positive to say about it is the real question.

[ruiphillips]

Channel 5 must be fuming lmao

[*mazedsalv**]

After all their awful twists and desperation for headlines they only drag in 1.04m lol. Should fall much lower tonight after the travesty they produced last night.

But like I said, it was up against Corrie and most importantly BGT. To get the highest rated excl +1 figure in 7 days against the toughest competition it has had this series (yes, even including Eurovision) is quite decent.

But it's the BOTS figure which is more interesting with around 80% retention from the main show, instead of the usual 40%.

We don't know whether this will flop or help the show a bit.

Tonight will be low anyway as usual, but tomorrow is the day we should look out for.

[*mazedsalv**]

Channel 5 must be fuming lmao

To get the highest ratings in 7 days despite having the most competition all series? They will be OK with this, Sunday is the one to look out for as BB follows the BGT final. We'll see what happens.

I wasn't a big fan of the twist at all, but Marc being one of the most hated HMs may help interest,

[Beetlejuice]

But like I said, it was up against Corrie and most importantly BGT. To get the highest rated excl +1 figure in 7 days against the toughest competition it has had this series (yes, even including Eurovision) is quite decent.

But it's the BOTS figure which is more interesting with around 80% retention from the main show, instead of the usual 40%.

We don't know whether this will flop or help the show a bit.

Tonight will be low anyway as usual, but tomorrow is the day we should look out for.

If all you are interested in is the ratings then you're always going to fail to see the bigger picture.

[*mazedsalv**]

If all you are interested in is the ratings then you're always going to fail to see the bigger picture.

I'm interested in figures and quality, the producers are only interested in figures, hence the twist. If the ratings increase, they won't care if people don't like it.

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother- 1.17m incl +1 with a peak of 1.36m.

Highest rated episode since the first Friday two weeks ago.

[Rob!]

That isn't bad at all tbf. Hope it can build on that.

[TomC]

Then why the hell are you posting on a BB forum if you've got nothing positive to say? i'm so bored of reading your negative posts, I had you on ignore but people constantly quote you to argue against your constant moaning!!

So true, this FM is horrendous... Definitely the biggest moaner I've seen on here or DS and that is an acheivement.

[Pete.]

Then why the hell are you posting on a BB forum if you've got nothing positive to say? i'm so bored of reading your negative posts, I had you on ignore but people constantly quote you to argue against your constant moaning!!
He's spilling the tea about the crap production.

[Beetlejuice]

So true, this FM is horrendous... Definitely the biggest moaner I've seen on here or DS and that is an acheivement.

I'm just reflecting the horror of the show

[jonnyblack]

There's been an issue with the ratings apparently, not reflecting the updated time slots of 9-11 for BB and 11-12 for BOTS. Looks likely BOTS figure will fall considerably. The 11:30-12 rating was under 500k, way down on the currently reported average. I don't know if we'll get updated figures until the official ratings are released.

[TomC]

I'm just reflecting the horror of the show

Well no one else is complaining anywhere near as much as you tbh.

[Jake.]

Acceptable

[Beetlejuice]

Well no one else is complaining anywhere near as much as you tbh.

People settle for less these days.

[TomC]

People settle for less these days.

I don't think so... hence why there are less viewers these days?... You're quite contradictory...

[Jay.]

I don't think so... hence why there are less viewers these days?... You're quite contradictory...

was just about to say this myself :clap1:

[Beetlejuice]

I don't think so... hence why there are less viewers these days?... You're quite contradictory...

The people who defend this awful series are settling for less. Nothing contradictory. And frankly they got themselves into this position because fans of the show defended them year after year whilst they mutilated the programme.

[TomC]

The people who defend this awful series are settling for less. Nothing contradictory. And frankly they got themselves into this position because fans of the show defended them year after year whilst they mutilated the programme.

Yes but overall, people don't settle for less, hence why there are less viewers. And not everyone settles for the same standard of viewing if that makes sense.

How has the show been 'mutilated'?

As a relatively new viewer, I enjoy the show for what it is, and appreciate what the show used to be.

[Beetlejuice]

Yes but overall, people don't settle for less, hence why there are less viewers. And not everyone settles for the same standard of viewing if that makes sense.

Just about. The fact remains that many people are shining **** and calling it gold.

How has the show been 'mutilated'?

It's stumbling around like something out of the Walking Dead. How has it not been mutilated?

[Jake.]

Big Brother - 0.84m (4.4%)

[JohnnyBB]

Looks like the veiwers arnt coming back.

[*mazedsalv**]

Tbh it was the highest rated Saturday so far.

[RichardG]

Hmm... I'll try not to judge because it was a Saturday and they never do well. I guess by Tuesday we'll know if the ratings have any hope of going up or not.

Tbh it was the highest rated Saturday so far.

Didn't know this... at least that's something. :amazed:

[Pete.]

Still messy

[Jake.]

Really isn't the worst rating considering some of the week days have rated worse

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ive been so busy im only now catching up with the series just finished Thursdays episode with Aaron getting kicked out. The series is like classic BB imo theres been loads of fun and enough drama and now they go and pull some ****ty twist and boot 4 out? Why do they continue to mess with the show? It was a horrendous idea in BB11 which killed the final and im not sure whos gone yet luckily ive managed to avoid seeing but the characters up are all good housemates.

If producers thought the viewers were finding it boring then they should have given US the power to vote the most boring 4 housemates and not just unfairly kicked out good ones in an obvious attempt to boost the ratings.

What did they gain a few extra hundred thousand for 1 night? They alienated the fans of these housemates who were booted im sure and any viewers gained will be lost.

Every year they do something to **** it up....Ahem Katie Price!

[Jamesy]

Ive been so busy im only now catching up with the series just finished Thursdays episode with Aaron getting kicked out. The series is like classic BB imo theres been loads of fun and enough drama and now they go and pull some ****ty twist and boot 4 out? Why do they continue to mess with the show? It was a horrendous idea in BB11 which killed the final and im not sure whos gone yet luckily ive managed to avoid seeing but the characters up are all good housemates.

If producers thought the viewers were finding it boring then they should have given US the power to vote the most boring 4 housemates and not just unfairly kicked out good ones in an obvious attempt to boost the ratings.

What did they gain a few extra hundred thousand for 1 night? They alienated the fans of these housemates who were booted im sure and any viewers gained will be lost.

Every year they do something to **** it up....Ahem Katie Price!

:clap1: :clap1:

[*mazedsalv**]

Ive been so busy im only now catching up with the series just finished Thursdays episode with Aaron getting kicked out. The series is like classic BB imo theres been loads of fun and enough drama and now they go and pull some ****ty twist and boot 4 out? Why do they continue to mess with the show? It was a horrendous idea in BB11 which killed the final and im not sure whos gone yet luckily ive managed to avoid seeing but the characters up are all good housemates.

If producers thought the viewers were finding it boring then they should have given US the power to vote the most boring 4 housemates and not just unfairly kicked out good ones in an obvious attempt to boost the ratings.

What did they gain a few extra hundred thousand for 1 night? They alienated the fans of these housemates who were booted im sure and any viewers gained will be lost.

Every year they do something to **** it up....Ahem Katie Price!

I wasn't a fan of the twist BUT I just caught up on last nights show and it was IMO the best of the series. In the long run, this may be a good move. Everyone is going on about Marc and the way Chloe exploded for the first time in the series against a guy who has barely been in there an hour is def worth it!

Marc has brought out the personalities of Chloe and Danny.

Tonight will be the rating which will be important.

[ruiphillips]

Low rating, had no real competition last night.

[uniquedude]

Ive been so busy im only now catching up with the series just finished Thursdays episode with Aaron getting kicked out. The series is like classic BB imo theres been loads of fun and enough drama and now they go and pull some ****ty twist and boot 4 out? Why do they continue to mess with the show? It was a horrendous idea in BB11 which killed the final and im not sure whos gone yet luckily ive managed to avoid seeing but the characters up are all good housemates.

If producers thought the viewers were finding it boring then they should have given US the power to vote the most boring 4 housemates and not just unfairly kicked out good ones in an obvious attempt to boost the ratings.

What did they gain a few extra hundred thousand for 1 night? They alienated the fans of these housemates who were booted im sure and any viewers gained will be lost.

Every year they do something to **** it up....Ahem Katie Price!

c5 cant help themselves. as much as it needed a little spicing up it was refreshing to see less arguments and a more natural house.

[*mazedsalv**]

Low rating, had no real competition last night.

It doesn't matter, you should know that after 15 years of BB, that Saturdays always rate lowly.

Last nights rating is on par with the Sat ratings from BB15. I reckon tonight... 1.15m. Which would be 200k higher than the previous Sunday.

[Rob!]

Considering the first Saturday got 690k that's quite an improvement. Has this massive twist done something?

Is that with +1 by the way?

[Jamesy]

The drama was good and all last night but I personally didn't find it the best episode of the series. Marc coming across as completely fake and forcing drama didn't really do it for me.

But ah well, looking at social media people like the confrontations.

[billy123]

Considering the first Saturday got 690k that's quite an improvement. Has this massive twist done something?

Is that with +1 by the way?yes it did something alright thats for sure. It pissed off a lot of the regular viewers in exchange for 200k people that were just rubbernecking and were curious what was happening.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just finished watching it.

Nah this aint for me, I loved Sarah and Harriet was an amazing housemate who was real an actual real person who deserved to be in civilian BB.

I didn't enjoy watching the housemates who ive just spent hours getting to know and warm to being kicked out in one fouls swoop especially Sarah! It was just quite horrible to watch.

I didn't mind Kieron going he was a bore but the other 3 were good housemates and were really coming into their own. Now its like starting all over again im exhausted.

**** it im done with BB this year.....I know people say that and everyone like (Oh yes whatever you will watch) no I really wont im over the show.


SHOOOOOOOOWBIIIIIIZ just ****ing put the nail in the coffin for me with his little scripted comeback.

Ratings wise isn't this doing worse than the spin off BB Celeb Hijack which aired on e4?

Wow ive finally found theres life outside this forum and BB and got my ****ing summers back lol I shall have fond memories of past series and epic ranting on the forum but enough is enough.

RIP BB.

[Rob!]

Just finished watching it.

Nah this aint for me, I loved Sarah and Harriet was an amazing housemate who was real an actual real person who deserved to be in civilian BB.

I didn't enjoy watching the housemates who ive just spent hours getting to know and warm to being kicked out in one fouls swoop especially Sarah! It was just quite horrible to watch.

I didn't mind Kieron going he was a bore but the other 3 were good housemates and were really coming into their own. Now its like starting all over again im exhausted.

**** it im done with BB this year.....I know people say that and everyone like (Oh yes whatever you will watch) no I really wont im over the show.


SHOOOOOOOOWBIIIIIIZ just ****ing put the nail in the coffin for me with his little scripted comeback.

Ratings wise isn't this doing worse than the spin off BB Celeb Hijack which aired on e4?

Wow ive finally found theres life outside this forum and BB and got my ****ing summers back lol I shall have fond memories of past series and epic ranting on the forum but enough is enough.

RIP BB.


I've got nothing to back it up with but I'm pretty sure that hijack was getting like 600k for evictions so no this is doing a lot better :laugh:


I'm not going to stop watching - there's still some good interesting characters in there for me. If I can make it all the way through BB12 which I mostly despised then this series which I'm actually still enjoying is nothing. Apart from Sarah all my faves are still going strong so.

[Beetlejuice]

Ive been so busy im only now catching up with the series just finished Thursdays episode with Aaron getting kicked out. The series is like classic BB imo theres been loads of fun and enough drama and now they go and pull some ****ty twist and boot 4 out? Why do they continue to mess with the show?

Because it was pulling in poor viewing figures for the following reasons... The early start when young people are doing exams; it has been up against BGT; and thanks to there still being no live coverage there was no way to get to know the housemates enough to care about how their stories developed. The reason they end up relying on desperate stunts, pointless twists and loudmouthed characters is because the show has lost it's urgency and immediacy which it was given by the live coverage.


What did they gain a few extra hundred thousand for 1 night? They alienated the fans of these housemates who were booted im sure and any viewers gained will be lost!

Yep, any benefit in terms of viewing figures will soon disappear. If there is any at all.

[Beetlejuice]

yes it did something alright thats for sure. It pissed off a lot of the regular viewers in exchange for 200k people that were just rubbernecking and were curious what was happening.

It wasn't up against BGT or Eurovision. Of course it did better. It is still poor

[Beetlejuice]

I wasn't a fan of the twist BUT I just caught up on last nights show and it was IMO the best of the series.

Why wouldn't it be... 4 people get evicted and 4 new housemates come in, one of whom has clearly been given orders to causes drama. It's like the first night all over again. But things soon die down

In the long run, this may be a good move. Everyone is going on about Marc and the way Chloe exploded for the first time in the series against a guy who has barely been in there an hour is def worth it!

Actually most people are going "What is this ****". You've got it exactly the wrong way round. The figures may improve in the short term (though not much) but the show has been even further damaged than it was last year.

Marc has brought out the personalities of Chloe and Danny.

Tonight will be the rating which will be important.

Good luck to it. I suspect a lot will be watching ITV2.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Because it was pulling in poor viewing figures for the following reasons... The early start when young people are doing exams; it has been up against BGT; and thanks to there still being no live coverage there was no way to get to know the housemates enough to care about how their stories developed. The reason they end up relying on desperate stunts, pointless twists and loudmouthed characters is because the show has lost it's urgency and immediacy which it was given by the live coverage.




Yep, any benefit in terms of viewing figures will soon disappear. If there is any at all.

When has BB ever clashed with the BGT finals? Arent they on at like 8pm? BB doesn't start till 10pm.

Since when did kids start studying? lol

I agree it was brought back way to early and only now should we really start getting house pics imo it was BB overload way to soon after people to forget CBB15 going out on a whimper. Ya know what I trust Salv so i'll give last night and tonight a go but I cant see me sticking with this now. I feel really let down by production.

My beloved Sarah and Harriet went :( I really felt for the housemates they got just as stitcjhed up as us and Emma clearly said in the interview "We had to do something everyone was being to nice" Last year she was complaining there was no fun this year after a slow burner we finally got a cast that had a good mix of arguments, fun, proper debates and talking points and real friendships not all based on "the game" and they do a u turn and kick out some very good housemates in favour of some vile wannabes there to bring fake drama.

[JohnnyBB]

You know what gets me they have enough space to build a small house next door they had a weeke they could have come up with somthing, it was hard to watch them leave on friday didint care about the twins but we lost some good housemates

[aman201]

Only loss is Sarah really.

[Beetlejuice]

When has BB ever clashed with the BGT finals? Arent they on at like 8pm? BB doesn't start till 10pm.


I suspect a lot of natural BB viewers tune in to the ITV2 BGT show after the main show.

[crazycolaist]

I say 0.9-1.1m

[Jake.]

Excluding +1 channels, 1.03m (6.1%) tuned in for Sunday's highlights at the later than usual time of 10pm. It beat the finale of Britain's Got More Talent which pulled in 0.76m (4.5%) for ITV2.

[*mazedsalv**]

Despite being on an hour later than original on a Sunday, 1.03m excl +1 is 80,000 higher than last weeks 950k with +1 in the 9pm slot.

It will probably be around 1.10m incl +1 which would make it ~150,000 higher than last Sunday.

So if we compare it to Sunday-Wednesday of the last week, the twist kind of has paid of... FOR NOW.