*** The Big Brother 16 ratings thread***

[Will.]

Thats good, it seems the twist has done right, last Sunday got like 700k

[Will.]

Its good it bit BGMT, I mean that gets promotion in front of millions of people like TOWIE and rates badly.

[*mazedsalv**]

Thats good, it seems the twist has done right, last Sunday got like 700k

Last Sunday got 950,000. Then the Monday fell to 820,000 I think!

Last nights BB took quite a chunk off BGMT. Despite BGT final got a HUGE 11.7m, the highest since 2012, BGMT was lower maybe due to BB?

[Will.]

Last Sunday got 950,000. Then the Monday fell to 820,000 I think!

Last nights BB took quite a chunk off BGMT. Despite BGT final got a HUGE 11.7m, the highest since 2012, BGMT was lower maybe due to BB?

yeah probably, Emma was promoting BGMT which is disgraceful

[Will.]

It will be interesting to see what this week and the next get as theres no reality TV competition and it's the time when BB normally launches.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.11m incl +1 (6.6%).

Didn't disgrace itself despite being on an hour later than usual. It was up 160k on last Sunday (which was on at 9pm) so as of now, the BB producers will be relatively happy.

[Will.]

1.11m incl +1 (6.6%).

Didn't disgrace itself despite being on an hour later than usual. It was up 160k on last Sunday (which was on at 9pm) so as of now, the BB producers will be relatively happy.

Decent rating overall

[Will.]

IT BEAT last years third Sunday rating which got 1.32m (6.1%)

[*mazedsalv**]

IT BEAT last years third Sunday rating which got 1.32m (6.1%)

Not in rating but in share.

[Will.]

Not in rating but in share.

yeah, if it got 1.32 last night thats probably about 7.2%

[Will.]

wow it actually got a 7% share, but still 1.11

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Interested in seeing todays officials.

I did give it a chance and watched Saturdays and last nights episodes and yeah they were pretty good but I don't want this to become the Marc show now.

[*mazedsalv**]

Interested in seeing todays officials.

I did give it a chance and watched Saturdays and last nights episodes and yeah they were pretty good but I don't want this to become the Marc show now.

They will be pretty awful, 1.3m at the most! Also, we still have three ratings missing from the first 6 days. That's the bad thing about the show being on at 10pm, 11pm on +1 never gets a high enough figure to be in the +1 Top 10.

[Pete.]

At least it's slowly rising https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/441999629820112896/mLp6tBmN_normal.jpeg

[Will.]

shock get officials any time now?

[Ross.]

At least it's slowly rising https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/441999629820112896/mLp6tBmN_normal.jpeg

It's eventually getting there https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/441999629820112896/mLp6tBmN_normal.jpeg

[Will.]

Lets hope it can reach 1.2 tonight

[Jay.]

At least it's slowly rising https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/441999629820112896/mLp6tBmN_normal.jpeg

keep your sex life to yourself http://i.imgur.com/Douxy1a.gif

[Jack.]

keep your sex life to yourself http://i.imgur.com/Douxy1a.gif

:joker:

[Jarrod]

Big Brother: Timebomb - Officials for Week Ending May 24th

Saturday - 0.79 Million
Sunday - 1.10 Million
Monday - 1.37 Million
Tuesday - 1.27 Million
Wednesday - 1.30 Million
Thursday - 1.22 Million
Friday - 1.26 Million

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/weekly-top-30?

[Rob!]

Wow. Is that the first ever offical rating under 1m?

[Will.]

So far this series is averaging 1.52 in officials, only 50k below BB15 which got 1.57

[Daniel-X]

I can't see them shortening it tbh. It's not doing that bad and I think that it will honestly continue to slowly rise I don't think the series will get anything more 1.3 or 1.4 but I can't see them axing unless it continues to get 1m or below.

I think BB17 will happen but I think BB's future is unsure after that they would only keep it going if BB17 got over 1.5 nearly every night I think.

[Will.]

If it stays like it has since Friday then theres nothing to worry about, las night got a 7% share!!

And A BB15 Sunday show got 6.1% with 1.35, so if BB16 was on when BB15 was on last night would have got like 1.5 M

[Blog Rider]

Its time to get some live coverage on Spike 12am to 3am, Could be a nice thing after BOTS :)

[Beetlejuice]

So far this series is averaging 1.52 in officials, only 50k below BB15 which got 1.57

How can a series that gets...

Saturday - 0.79 Million
Sunday - 1.10 Million
Monday - 1.37 Million
Tuesday - 1.27 Million
Wednesday - 1.30 Million
Thursday - 1.22 Million
Friday - 1.26 Million

Have an average of 1.52?

[Beetlejuice]

Lets hope it can reach 1.2 tonight

Why? It deserves 0.2

[Will.]

How can a series that gets...

Saturday - 0.79 Million
Sunday - 1.10 Million
Monday - 1.37 Million
Tuesday - 1.27 Million
Wednesday - 1.30 Million
Thursday - 1.22 Million
Friday - 1.26 Million

Have an average of 1.52?

Neatly everyone of these officials don't include +1, according to wiki, the first week averaged 1.59 and the second got 1.42

So I did 1.59 + 1.42, then divided by 2 to get 1.52 as an overall average of this series.

[Daniel-X]

Why? It deserves 0.2

Seriously can you just like stop commenting all the time on everything they do. Everything is so wrong in every way for you it seems like nothing will ever please you.

Sick of your constant moaning now tbqh

[Rob!]

Why? It deserves 0.2

Can you seriously **** off? You're really annoying people with your constant pointless and so repetitive it's not even funny jibes. Can't think why you got banned from DS.

[Beetlejuice]

Officials for week ending 17th May

Sat - 0.9 million
Sunday - 1.24 million
Monday - ?
Tuesday - 1.94 million
Wednesday - 1.38 million
Thursday - 1.43 million
Friday - 1.45 million

So the viewing figures are going down

[Will.]

but now there going up since Friday

[Daniel-X]

No they're not because the one posted before was 24th May this one is the 17th May.

Seriously just like stop trying to ruin it for everyone fair enough as I've pointed out before some people don't like everything but you basically just seem to have come on here to moan non stop and ruin this years BB for everyone else.

[Beetlejuice]

Can you seriously **** off? You're really annoying people with your constant pointless and so repetitive it's not even funny jibes. Can't think why you got banned from DS.

I find the positivity of some of you baffling. Good thing I'm here to provide some balance

[Daniel-X]

but now there going up since Friday

Yas. Beetlejuice need to stop trying to ruin the series for everyone who's enjoying it

[Rob!]

I find the positivity of some of you baffling. Good thing I'm here to provide some balance

You're a troll, nothing else tbh.

[Beetlejuice]

No they're not because the one posted before was 24th May this one is the 17th May.

Yes, and the figures up to May 17th are better than the figures up to May 24th.

Seriously just like stop trying to ruin it for everyone fair enough as I've pointed out before some people don't like everything but you basically just seem to have come on here to moan non stop and ruin this years BB for everyone else.

The only people ruining this years show are the producers and the channel. The question is why are people so keen on defending it.

[Beetlejuice]

You're a troll, nothing else tbh.

No, I'm not. I just strongly disagree with people who defend what this show has become.

[Daniel-X]

I find the positivity of some of you baffling. Good thing I'm here to provide some balance

No you're really not most people on here are quite balanced I haven't liked some things done this year but my posts aren't just directly biased to one side of the argument.

[Will.]

tbh the twist helped, we've only gone down from 1.17 to 1.12 from Friday to Sunday, theres no reality competition now and plus this week is when BB normally launched.

[Will.]

No, I'm not. I just strongly disagree with people who defend what this show has become.

Your the Helen wood on ThisIsBigBrother.com

[Daniel-X]

No, I'm not. I just strongly disagree with people who defend what this show has become.

Some people still enjoy it it wouldn't suit us all to be the same :conf: It's like me running over to DS and constantly posting things on the soaps section saying how much I hate Hollyoaks etc just to ruin the series and fun of he forum for everybody else.

[Beetlejuice]

tbh the twist helped, we've only gone down from 1.17 to 1.12 from Friday to Sunday, theres no reality competition now and plus this week is when BB normally launched.

So it's more likely the lack of competition and it being when BB usually starts that will be the cause of any rise rather than them throwing in a bellend and fiddling with the nominations again. And then again.

[Beetlejuice]

Some people still enjoy it it wouldn't suit us all to be the same :conf: It's like me running over to DS and constantly posting things on the soaps section saying how much I hate Hollyoaks etc just to ruin the series and fun of he forum for everybody else.

So everyone must be positive at all times about this show? Where do people who like the show but are fed up with what the producers are doing to it voice that displeasure? A forum for discussing BB seems the perfect place to me.

[Will.]

yes most likely, since the new HM have entered the highlights have been really good to watch, the editing is brilliant, and yes theres no BGT, Eurovision etc.

It's not about being positive its about being realistic, if it was getting 700k since Friday then yes we should be worried, but getting 1.1-1.2 with a share of 7% is decent, hardly any BB15 highlight show got 7%

[Beetlejuice]

yes most likely, since the new HM have entered the highlights have been really good to watch, the editing is brilliant.

I very much doubt this. One poster on this forum seems to believe certain conversations are now scripted

It's not about being positive its about being realistic, if it was getting 700k since Friday then yes we should be worried, but getting 1.1-1.2 with a share of 7% is decent, hardly any BB15 highlight show got 7%

You're more interested in the ratings than the quality of the show. This series has done serious damage to the programme.

[Pete.]

Wow. Is that the first ever offical rating under 1m?
Didn't BB13 get some?

[Will.]

The first week was good, but then when Adoja left it got boring, now the new HM have entered its got good, its not scripted.

[crazycolaist]

Officials for week ending 17th May

Sat - 0.9 million
Sunday - 1.24 million
Monday - ?
Tuesday - 1.94 million
Wednesday - 1.38 million
Thursday - 1.43 million
Friday - 1.45 million

So the viewing figures are going down



Close to the 2million mark

[Will.]

I very much doubt this. One poster on this forum seems to believe certain conversations are now scripted



You're more interested in the ratings than the quality of the show. This series has done serious damage to the programme.

oh bore a way

[Beetlejuice]

oh bore a way

Sorry, but some of you really do seem to think the measure of success is a 200k increase in figures. It's just unbelievable to me that people are defending this show after what it has done over the last week and what it is now doing again this week. It's like you enjoy seeing the show being ripped apart so long as it increases the figures.

[Will.]

Well I'm enjoying the series now, tonight looks great as well, I will keep enjoying with the other people who like it

[Beetlejuice]

Well I'm enjoying the series now, tonight looks great as well, I will keep enjoying with the other people who like it

Good for you. I'll keep up to date with the latest attempt to manipulate everything, make things up as they go, urinate over the format and contrive drama via the forums and fan sites and have a good laugh at how big the hole this show is digging for itself is becoming.

[Jason.]

Beetlejuice what was your name on DS?

[*mazedsalv**]

Most of those officials don't include +1, so they will be higher.

[Jarrod]

Most of those officials don't include +1, so they will be higher.

None of the ones I posted do I don't think, it was just from the BARB website for C5 only.

[RichardG]

Good to see the figures increase, hopefully there'll be no significant drop again. I hated the addition of the new housemates on Friday but actually the past two highlights episodes haven't been as bad as I was expecting, I don't mind the new people.

[Jake.]

Big Brother: 1.03m

So around 1.1 with +1

[Will.]

its good its holding steady, last night was a slow episode and tonights there lots of arguing.

[Will.]

1.13 with +1, a huge share of 7.7%

A BB15 highlight show got 7.8% with 1.4m

so TV viewership is definitely down this year.

[*mazedsalv**]

1.13 with +1, a huge share of 7.7%

A BB15 highlight show got 7.8% with 1.4m

so TV viewership is definitely down this year.

You can't add the C5 share and the C5+1 share together because it will be different times and different amounts of people are watching on different times, so the share was 6.6% on CH5 only, with +1 in total, it will be around 7%.

The show also got 1.11m not 1.13m.

[*mazedsalv**]

To compare, here are the ratings since Friday compared to week before in brackets

Friday- 1.17m (1.14m)
Saturday- 840k (653k) However it was against Eurovision so we'll leave that one.
Sunday- 1.11m (950k)
Monday- 1.11m (872k)

So far the Friday thing seems to be paying off.

[Will.]

You can't add the C5 share and the C5+1 share together because it will be different times and different amounts of people are watching on different times, so the share was 6.6% on CH5 only, with +1 in total, it will be around 7%.

The show also got 1.11m not 1.13m.

I know but got it from the BBSPY ratings table and they include+1 percent with none +1 percent

[*mazedsalv**]

I know but got it from the BBSPY ratings table and they include+1 percent with none +1 percent
Ah I seem you should tell them it's wrong :p

It's two completely different slots, for example at 10pm, 14m people could be watching TV and at 11pm, only 8m could be, so you can't add the shares together because it doesn't give a true representation on the % watching altogether. I predict it being 7.1% or something.

[Jamesy]

Seems to be doing respectably well then. Not brilliant, but any increase is better than nothing I guess.

[Beetlejuice]

Doesn't look like much of an improvement to me. And as far as I can tell people are totally disillusioned with the show (especially when you consider the lack of competition now that BGT has finished)

[Jamesy]

I can tell people are totally disillusioned with the show (especially when you consider the lack of competition now that BGT has finished)

I'm getting a bit of deja vu here...

[Jarrod]

BGT and it's follow up show are on from 9 pm to 11 pm. How is that totally different?



That was worth reading. Interesting that people applaud such an obnoxious and moronic rant.

It's because we're getting frustrated and tired of your ignorant posts that fail to see anybody's opinions apart from your own, Big Brother is NEVER going to get the ratings it did on Channel 4, and the ratings it does get are more than successful for Channel 5. You need to give this a rest and actually try to understand how some of us interpret the ratings. We aren't moronic, we are fans that try and understand how the show is doing from a realistic angle.

I've argued with you before over ratings and all you seem to care about is live feed. Nobody has the time to watch that anymore, and it will not cause the ratings to sky rocket. It would add hardly anything. Big Brother has a large online following that doesn't get taken into account by the official BARB ratings. Please, just try and see other sides instead of just stamping us all down with your negativity.

[billy123]

It's because we're getting frustrated and tired of your ignorant posts that fail to see anybody's opinions apart from your own, Big Brother is NEVER going to get the ratings it did on Channel 4, and the ratings it does get are more than successful for Channel 5. You need to give this a rest and actually try to understand how some of us interpret the ratings. We aren't moronic, we are fans that try and understand how the show is doing from a realistic angle.

I've argued with you before over ratings and all you seem to care about is live feed. Nobody has the time to watch that anymore, and it will not cause the ratings to sky rocket. It would add hardly anything. Big Brother has a large online following that doesn't get taken into account by the official BARB ratings. Please, just try and see other sides instead of just stamping us all down with your negativity.To be fair though Daniel has been posting the same type of comments for years but now gets upset about someone else doing it.
His post was out of order he needs to pull his knickers up and behave like an adult.

[Beetlejuice]

It's because we're getting frustrated and tired of your ignorant posts that fail to see anybody's opinions apart from your own

My posts are not at all ignorant. And I do see your opinions and I believe them to be utterly wrong.

Big Brother is NEVER going to get the ratings it did on Channel 4, and the ratings it does get are more than successful for Channel 5.

Who has said that BB is going to get the ratings it did on Channel 4? Certainly not me. It can't even get the ratings it got 2 years ago on Channel 5. A series that I have said was moving in the right direction (How's that for a positive opinion?).

And the ratings it has been getting on Channel 5 clearly are not successful otherwise it would not have gone through with the desperate stunts it has.

You need to give this a rest and actually try to understand how some of us interpret the ratings. We aren't moronic, we are fans that try and understand how the show is doing from a realistic angle.

So actually it is you, and not I, that can't stand to see just one person disagree with you all.

I've argued with you before over ratings and all you seem to care about is live feed. Nobody has the time to watch that anymore, and it will not cause the ratings to sky rocket.

Why would they have less time than they did before? And the show would be markedly improved by the live coverage.

It would add hardly anything.

Except for 23 hours worth of more coverage of the housemates. Allowing fans to get more involved and know them better.

Big Brother has a large online following that doesn't get taken into account by the official BARB ratings. Please, just try and see other sides instead of just stamping us all down with your negativity.

In other words, you guys can't stand anyone disgareeing with you.

[RichardG]

1.1m is still an improvement, it could be doing worse.

Let's just hope it doesn't fall any lower again

[Jamesy]

Beetlejuice you are a broken record now. We all have things to moan about although your constant jibes towards members who post anything vaguely positive is really childish.

[uniquedude]

BGT and it's follow up show are on from 7:30 pm to 11 pm. How is that totally different?



That was worth reading. Interesting that people applaud such an obnoxious and moronic rant. The same people defending the violence committed to the show no doubt.

Beetlejuice I appreciate what you're trying to do and Daniels out of order but you're not Ghandi you wont be making a change by repeating yourself daily on the forum just gonna piss peole off. Still the forum doesn't need to lower itself to personal attacks, and I think you daniel should get banned if anything.

[Beetlejuice]

Beetlejuice I appreciate what you're trying to do and Daniels out of order but you're not Ghandi you wont be making a change by repeating yourself daily on the forum just gonna piss peole off. Still the forum doesn't need to lower itself to personal attacks, and I think you daniel should get banned if anything.

No need to ban anyone.

Arguments must be made and re-made if you want them to be heard or understood. And a lot of these arguments are made in response to yet another example of manipulation by the producers. I don't just go on about the live coverage. If anything it is the blatant rigging of the show that rubs me up the wrong way much more.

[*mazedsalv**]

Last night climbed to 1.15m (7.2%) excl +1.

With +1, it will certainly be over 1.20m and be the highest rated highlights of the series and the 2nd highest overall since launch (behind the first Friday show).

[Will.]

Last night climbed to 1.15m (7.2%) excl +1.

With +1, it will certainly be over 1.20m and be the highest rated highlights of the series and the 2nd highest overall since launch (behind the first Friday show).

Very good, the shares are brilliant this year, it was good episode last night so hopefully people stick around.

[Will.]

I bet Beetle Juice will have a good moan about why its such a bad rating.

[mrmattybeck1]

I bet Beetle Juice will have a good moan about why its such a bad rating.
The same two moaning I'm guessing nothing changes

[Will.]

The same two moaning I'm guessing nothing changes


yep waiting for the moaning to start

anyway really pleased it's rising.

[RichardG]

Last night climbed to 1.15m (7.2%) excl +1.

With +1, it will certainly be over 1.20m and be the highest rated highlights of the series and the 2nd highest overall since launch (behind the first Friday show).

:clap1: good to continue seeing improvements. Personally I think the episodes have been amazing since the new housemates entered.

[Rob!]

Yes at the ratings climbing :clap1:

[crazycolaist]

Nice ;)

[VanessaFeltz.]

i think ratings are climbing because we are in june not may anymore

[Vanessa]

The show has improved and i'm really enjoying it. Some of the old housemates were taking the fun out of it. But now it's back on track and it's showing on the ratings. :love:

[Rob!]

I'm seeing that it was 2nd in the 10pm slot last night - how come the share isn't even higher?

[Will.]

I'm seeing that it was 2nd in the 10pm slot last night - how come the share isn't even higher?

the share is very high, 7.2% is like a high rating share for BB14 with +1 I think

[Beetlejuice]

The show has improved

It hasn't. Oh, look, another secret room where housemates get a 24/7 feed to spy on the others. Wow, what an original concept! A show that had improved would not have to be meddled with as much as this one continues to be.

Some of the old housemates were taking the fun out of it. But now it's back on track and it's showing on the ratings. :love:

It's as heavily manipulated as ever. What I find amusing is how critical people are of those on BOTS always talking about how great things are when they're clearly ****. What a turnaround on the forums this year.

[Jamesy]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/35a9af0f07327cc033fc039e943d7381/tumblr_npdnkoYh671tbddkyo1_500.gif

[Will.]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/14/article-0-16F1A826000005DC-321_634x464.jpg

[Beetlejuice]

i think ratings are climbing because we are in june not may anymore

It certainly isn't because of the quality of the product improving.

And the ratings remain very poor for a show that did as well as it did with BB13/BB14

[Pete.]

i think ratings are climbing because we are in june not may anymore
This. They should have launched in June smh

[Jamesy]

Yes it should have been a June launch, they were doomed with a May start

[Will.]

It certainly isn't because of the quality of the product improving.

And the ratings remain very poor for a show that did as well as it did with BB13/BB14

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/25/618x402/uktv-bb-14-day-4-gina.jpg

[Jarrod]

It certainly isn't because of the quality of the product improving.

And the ratings remain very poor for a show that did as well as it did with BB13/BB14

Just so you're aware, BB13 did no better than Big Brother 12 or Big Brother 15.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Beetlejuice I appreciate what you're trying to do and Daniels out of order but you're not Ghandi you wont be making a change by repeating yourself daily on the forum just gonna piss peole off. Still the forum doesn't need to lower itself to personal attacks, and I think you daniel should get banned if anything.

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest lol.

It had to be said any way why don't people just ignore these rants now they are ruining the thread.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Just so you're aware, BB13 did no better than Big Brother 12 or Big Brother 15.

BB13 was doing amazingly well in the ratings until The Olympics started.

BB13 did actually do better than BB15, I don't know why but wiki have changed the average to 1.6 for BB15 when it was 1.52 I think.

It was defo the lowest rated.....Well up until now.

[crazycolaist]

BB is one of those shows. You miss the first week and thats it.

- I saw no billboards at stations or busses
- They only advertised on their own channels (Viva,Comedy Central)
- Not much magazine or newspaper support except wild bull shiz
- Nothing wrong with producers theyve done a exceptionally good job as it could of been worse
- They changed their metadata on Xbox One too late (was the 2012 old logo nobody will take interest when its trending in which its normally 2nd place and CBB 1st place)
- Netflix is killing reality TV & TV channels are dying due to netflix


BB has a huge fanbase compared to most reality tv shows. Civillian needs few years break & CBB will grow with the investment from civillian BB. Thats my look of things anyway.

[Jord]

Glad to see the ratings climbing. :clap1: As much as I liked the housemates evicted last Friday, it definitely was the right move to bring in more livelier housemates and shake things up.

[Beetlejuice]

Just so you're aware, BB13 did no better than Big Brother 12 or Big Brother 15.

The running average for the first 5 weeks of BB13 was 1.94

[Beetlejuice]

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/25/618x402/uktv-bb-14-day-4-gina.jpg



http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/the-shining-jack-nicholson.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/261118526307-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/97226940-man-calling-out-with-megaphone-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=NZ8qYFQ0adQTcStRl78GQ8336AkMnXrOx4U7PSt3AkfjvJ8l zr30RL1bIw%2F7BcN0SYJu6c7LckK6qj2WHHRQ1w%3D%3D

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/9XWyLDNdS7CFHMoIzYGO_gold_bars.jpg

[Beetlejuice]

- Nothing wrong with producers theyve done a exceptionally good job as it could of been worse

An exceptionally good job at doing more of the things people wanted less of last year and none of the things they wanted more of (Hence the reason the show has its worst figures in its history) . Getting housemates to lick lollipops that taste like mould is hardly the work of creative people.


Netflix is killing reality TV & TV channels are dying due to netflix

Shows are dying because they are becoming awful.


BB has a huge fanbase compared to most reality tv shows. Civillian needs few years break

It's had a break for 5 years. What Channel 5 need to do is bring it back.

[Beetlejuice]

It had to be said any way

No, it didn't.

[crazycolaist]

An exceptionally good job at doing more of the things people wanted less of last year and none of the things they wanted more of (Hence the reason the show has its worst figures in its history) . Getting housemates to lick lollipops that taste like mould is hardly the work of creative people.




Shows are dying because they are becoming awful.




It's had a break for 5 years. What Channel 5 need to do is bring it back.
How is bb11 in 2010 c4
& bb12 in 2011 c5
5 years?

[Beetlejuice]

How is bb11 in 2010 c4
& bb12 in 2011 c5
5 years?

This is the fifth year of BB on Channel 5. They, unfortunately, turned their back on the format of the show and created their own Frankenstein's Monster version of it. One that led them into a dead end last year and which they have nevertheless tried to repeat this year to the dismay of many.

BB13 had better housemates, BB14 had memorable housemates and extra live coverage (though they fixed the noms to get Jackie Travers out) and it looked like the show was moving in the right direction. Unfortunately they undid all of that with the utter shambles that was BB15 and they have made this years show an even bigger joke.

[Will.]

1.1 last night with +1, 6.3% +1(1%)

[RichardG]

still not perfect but it's not falling below 1m anymore so that's good I guess :amazed:

[JohnnyBB]

the after effects of BB power trip has left the public wanting nothing but drama every episode.

[Beetlejuice]

the after effects of BB power trip has left the public wanting nothing but drama every episode.

The after effects of Power Trip left public not wanting much to do with the show at all.

[jackc1806]

The after effects of Power Trip left public not wanting much to do with the show at all.

maybe you should quit moaning and get a job as a producer hun x

[AProducer'sWetDream]

maybe you should quit moaning and get a job as a producer hun x

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Of course we all have a right to our opinions about the show- that's what the forum is about- but do you have to bring it up every other post in a ratings thread? Maybe you should create another thread if you want to discuss the quality of the show but I click on the thread to check the ratings and what everyone thinks about them, and it's just full of you constantly moaning about the producers. It's getting quite tiresome now tbh...

[jackc1806]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Of course we all have a right to our opinions about the show- that's what the forum is about- but do you have to bring it up every other post in a ratings thread? Maybe you should create another thread if you want to discuss the quality of the show but I click on the thread to check the ratings and what everyone thinks about them, and it's just full of you constantly moaning about the producers. It's getting quite tiresome now tbh...

I think people over simplify the meaning of the word producer as well. A producer doesn't decide what time the show airs ect.

It's boring now tbh

[uniquedude]

the after effects of BB power trip has left the public wanting nothing but drama every episode.

I found bb14 had a lot more drama in each episode than bb15, with bb15 there were a loads of really boring episodes in between overhyped episodes that weren't even that good (e.g Danielle and Helen argument) where literally nothing happened.

[Jamesy]

As long as it stays above 1 million that's a good thing really. Shows there's still a dedicated audience.

[Beetlejuice]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Of course we all have a right to our opinions about the show- that's what the forum is about- but do you have to bring it up every other post in a ratings thread? Maybe you should create another thread if you want to discuss the quality of the show but I click on the thread to check the ratings and what everyone thinks about them.

I'm giving my thoughts on them and why they are so bad.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Of course we all have a right to our opinions about the show- that's what the forum is about- but do you have to bring it up every other post in a ratings thread? Maybe you should create another thread if you want to discuss the quality of the show but I click on the thread to check the ratings and what everyone thinks about them, and it's just full of you constantly moaning about the producers. It's getting quite tiresome now tbh...

I know I love the ratings thread this user is ruining it for me.

We could all just ignore him?

Nah that was a joke in all seriousness why not just start your own thread about why you hate big brother because that's what it would be called.

[Beetlejuice]

I don't really agree with this article...

http://bigbrother247.co.uk/opinion-big-brother-timebombs-saving-grace-live-feed-poll/

But there's a poll at the bottom with interesting results...

VOTE IN OUR LIVE FEED POLL

Thank you for voting!
Yes, definitely 94.62%
No, Live Updates are enough 5.38%

[mrmattybeck1]

I don't really agree with this article...

http://bigbrother247.co.uk/opinion-big-brother-timebombs-saving-grace-live-feed-poll/

But there's a poll at the bottom with interesting results...

VOTE IN OUR LIVE FEED POLL

Thank you for voting!
Yes, definitely 94.62%
No, Live Updates are enough 5.38%
Most polls saying public want a live feed I've read

[Beetlejuice]

Most polls saying public want a live feed I've read

Indeed. I've never seen one that wasn't below 80 or even 90%

The article was a curious read. The writer notes...

With Ben Frow rumoured to be in talks to reinstate the Live Feed, this can be only a good thing for the program. The Live Feed will return the essence to the program that it is currently lacking, and Channel 5 will most certainly be applauded for it.

I've heard nothing of this, so I wonder where he's got that info.

[Beetlejuice]

Big Brother ratings for Thursday night... 930k exc+1 apparently

[Beetlejuice]

1.08m inc+1

[Rob!]

Highest +1 of the series so far (149k), people clearly didn't know about the time change. Got exactly the same as last Thursday overall, so no audience lost.

[Beetlejuice]

Highest +1 of the series so far (149k), people clearly didn't know about the time change. Got exactly the same as last Thursday overall, so no audience lost.

Wasn't last week the worst week ever?

[Gstar]

didn't watch yesterdays, couldn't be bothered to see artificial arguments caused by BB for the millionth time. Dementiaville was really good

[Rob!]

1.19m (6.4%) for last night. Not sure if that's with +1 or not.

[billy123]

1.19m (6.4%) for last night. Not sure if that's with +1 or not.Thats less than the 8 out of 10 cats spinoff on Channel Four.
8 out of ten cats does countdown got 1.28 million and doesnt cost £40 million a year.
They are in trouble.

[Will.]

Without plus 1 I think as it norms get a round 6.3% without plus 1, good rating!

[Will.]

Thats less than the 8 out of 10 cats spinoff on Channel Four.
8 out of ten cats does countdown got 1.28 million and doesnt cost £40 million a year.
They are in trouble.

it beat out of ten cats last week

[billy123]

it beat out of ten cats last week

cool.

[Will.]

cool

Was the 1.28 last this weeks figure for it

[billy123]

Was the 1.28 last this weeks figure for it
Yes.

[Will.]

Yes.

ok, could beat it though, adjoas eviction got 150k on +1, so if it get around there it would take it up to 1.35

[billy123]

ok, could beat it though, adjoas eviction got 150k on +1, so if it get around there it would take it up to 1.35I dont know if that is with or without +1 it came from the same place as the BB figure.

Its not good. I know how people like to spin the figures and the share and in the past few years brag about how its beating C4 (even though their shows cost so much less) but it isnt delivering anymore and it isnt beating C4 anymore but it is costing a hell of a lot of money to put on.

Thats why i dont post in this thread much people are desperate to stay in the bubble and believe that everything is rosy and it really isnt.

[billy123]

It will probably get up to about the 1.4 mark next week by getting a few legends in the house for 5 days but it doesnt really help it just papers over the cracks for a week.

[Will.]

its already beat BB15 fourth week eviction regardless of plus 1,

BB15 - 1.10m (4.9%) with +1

[Pete.]

The share's good

[Will.]

Last nights 1.19 is without plus 1, DS didn't include plus 1, so in total about 1.25-1.3

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The same two moaning I'm guessing nothing changes

Whos the other?

[Rob!]

Delay on ratings apparently - not that the Saturday ratings are ever anything to get excited about :laugh:

[Beetlejuice]

Delay on ratings apparently - not that the Saturday ratings are ever anything to get excited about :laugh:

Sunday's through to Friday's aren't either.

[Ross.]

Big Brother: 0.65m (3.1%)

Not sure whether it includes plus one or not.

[Blog Rider]

Anyone notice something with BBC4 and Channel 5 ratings lately?

Big Brother: 0.65m (3.1%)
1864: 0.28m (1.4%)

[Jamesy]

Crap rating but not a surprise for a Saturday.

[Will.]

rubbish but nothing not expected, they should axe Saturday now and just have a longer Sunday.

[aman201]

The CL final was on ITV too.

[Jamesy]

rubbish but nothing not expected, they should axe Saturday now and just have a longer Sunday.

Yeah they should have a 2 hour or 90 minute Sunday shown instead

[Rob!]

Urgh :umm2:

[crazycolaist]

Yeah they should have a 2 hour or 90 minute Sunday shown instead



They used to do this for a little bit or channel4 days? i cant remember but it sucked having no saturday show wether low rating or not.

Didnt we used to have a BB on the day after the final too? Cant remember.

[Jamesy]

They used to do this for a little bit or channel4 days? i cant remember but it sucked having no saturday show wether low rating or not.

Didnt we used to have a BB on the day after the final too? Cant remember.

I can't remember no Saturday show during the C4 days, may have been although nothing comes to mind

I can remember shows the day after the final though! That's one thing I missed when it was removed, it was always nice to have a full final days highlights.

[Firewire]

BB8 didn't have a Saturday show

[Pete.]

Oop how terrible - Justice 4 Eileen the ratings grabber

[Beetlejuice]

May I ask the people defending the show and these ratings just how low the ratings have to drop and how bad the show has to become before you realize you're just... Wrong.

[Jamesy]

May I ask the people who constantly moan how much you need to keep posting the same pointless views before you realize you're just... boring people.

[Beetlejuice]

May I ask the people who constantly moan how much you need to keep posting the same pointless views before you realize you're just... boring people.

I shall keep posting them until people admit I am right.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I shall keep posting them until people admit I am right.

I imagine you'll have to wait a very long time before some of us admit anything of the sort...I agree the ratings this year are bad but I honestly don't believe that it has anything to do with live feed/incompetence of producers/manipulation etc. Big Brother will never pick up the ratings it used to get in the 'golden years' again IMO as the public interest has all but disappeared. No amount of live feed can fix that.

I think cancellation is inevitable at some point so I'm just going to enjoy the show for what it is now.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I shall keep posting them until people admit I am right.

I think pretty much everyone is in agreement that the ratings this year are terrible I don't see anyone raving about them or calling the show a hit do you?

Anyway yeah terrible rating that. Shouldn't be going below 900k imoon a Saturday.

This has to be the first series ever where we will have quite a fewofficials that don't even hit 1 million?

[Pete.]

Friday's eviction will actually be a ratings disaster because it's up against TFI Friday no matter how many Nikki's they put in

[Beetlejuice]

I imagine you'll have to wait a very long time before some of us admit anything of the sort...I agree the ratings this year are bad but I honestly don't believe that it has anything to do with live feed/incompetence of producers/manipulation etc. Big Brother will never pick up the ratings it used to get in the 'golden years' again IMO as the public interest has all but disappeared. No amount of live feed can fix that.

I think cancellation is inevitable at some point so I'm just going to enjoy the show for what it is now.

No one has said it will get the viewing figures it used to get. What people want is a return to a show that was a good watch. That is all.

[Jamesy]

I shall keep posting them until people admit I am right.

How dare people have opinions, outrage!

[Jay.]

No one has said it will get the viewing figures it used to get. What people want is a return to a show that was a good watch. That is all.

...stop watching then? :laugh:

[Jarrod]

No one has said it will get the viewing figures it used to get. What people want is a return to a show that was a good watch. That is all.

:umm2: I'm enjoying this series.

[Beetlejuice]

...stop watching then? :laugh:

I think I've watched one episode since the 4IN4OUT nonsense. And I caught Eileen's interview.

I still keep up with it via the forums and some online videos though. But why is the response to legitimate criticism of something to tell that person to stop watching it?

Big Brother fans should be trying to get BB back to higher standards. Allowing the standard to drop year after year will just mean the death of the show. The Channel/Producers simply must respond to the widespread criticism of what they have done to the show. The more widespread that criticism the more likely that they will have to do something.

[Jay.]

I think I've watched one episode since the 4IN4OUT nonsense. And I caught Eileen's interview.

I still keep up with it via the forums and some online videos though. But why is the response to legitimate criticism of something to tell that person to stop watching it?

Big Brother fans should be trying to get BB back to higher standards. Allowing the standard to drop year after year will just mean the death of the show. The Channel/Producers simply must respond to the widespread criticism of what they have done to the show. The more widespread that criticism the more likely that they will have to do something.

i know, you've said multiple times.

[Jamesy]

I think I've watched one episode since the 4IN4OUT nonsense. And I caught Eileen's interview.

I still keep up with it via the forums and some online videos though. But why is the response to legitimate criticism of something to tell that person to stop watching it?

Big Brother fans should be trying to get BB back to higher standards. Allowing the standard to drop year after year will just mean the death of the show. The Channel/Producers simply must respond to the widespread criticism of what they have done to the show. The more widespread that criticism the more likely that they will have to do something.

They haven't responded to criticism for 4 years, what makes you think they'll turn around now and change things

The show is different, get used to it, grow up and move on

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Big Brother fans should be trying to get BB back to higher standards. Allowing the standard to drop year after year will just mean the death of the show. The Channel/Producers simply must respond to the widespread criticism of what they have done to the show. The more widespread that criticism the more likely that they will have to do something.

Should we? I'm not sure whether you understand that some people don't share your opinion and are actually enjoying this series, including myself.

[Brother Leon]

C4 BB would have struggled with the CL Final up against it. Should have put the show at 10.

[Rob!]

I shall keep posting them until people admit I am right.

Urgh just go away!!!! Have you got nothing better to do with your life than go onto a forum on a show you have nothing good to say about and moan about it all day? You moan that people aren't listening to your opinion, but if you didn't make it so arrogantly, maybe people would be more inclined to listen to what you have to say? ****ing troll, I don't get why you haven't been banned from here yet. SO bored of you, and as you can tell, so is everybody else!

[Josy]

Can you make a thread to post your negativity about the show frm now on please Beetlejuice.

This thread is about the ratings, yes what you are discussing is connected to the ratings in a way but people coming into this thread can't actually find the ratings posts because the thread is filled with your repetitive comments.

[Beetlejuice]

They haven't responded to criticism for 4 years, what makes you think they'll turn around now and change things

Actually they did respond to criticism during BB14 and moved in the right direction. And it was the most successful series on Channel 5 (in terms of ratings - this is a ratings thread isn't it?). Then they went off in another direction and the show has been in steep decline ever since. They need to start listening to the criticism if they want to salvage the show.

The show is different

The show is worse. Objectively worse. It is an interactive show and hardly anybody is impressed by it save for a few people here who will continue to shine **** and call it gold.

get used to it, grow up and move on

No, I will continue to be critical of it. You should grow up yourself and learn how to engage in debate.

[Beetlejuice]

Can you make a thread to post your negativity about the show frm now on please Beetlejuice.

This thread is about the ratings, yes what you are discussing is connected to the ratings in a way but people coming into this thread can't actually find the ratings posts because the thread is filled with your repetitive comments.

Actually it's filled with people responding to me, telling me to stop being critical of a show that deserves criticism. It's easy enough to find the ratings. And the discussions here revolve around the poor ratings.

[Beetlejuice]

Urgh just go away!!!! Have you got nothing better to do with your life than go onto a forum on a show you have nothing good to say about and moan about it all day? You moan that people aren't listening to your opinion, but if you didn't make it so arrogantly, maybe people would be more inclined to listen to what you have to say? ****ing troll, I don't get why you haven't been banned from here yet. SO bored of you, and as you can tell, so is everybody else!

In other words... You can't bear someone having an opinion of the show that differs from your own.

It's one thing for the BOTS audience to be saying how great the show is, but when people on forums of fan sites are actually saying it, it is truly amusing.

[crazycolaist]

Can you make a thread to post your negativity about the show frm now on please Beetlejuice.

This thread is about the ratings, yes what you are discussing is connected to the ratings in a way but people coming into this thread can't actually find the ratings posts because the thread is filled with your repetitive comments.




*Sigh* if this was reddit I woulda shadow banned him a week ago.

[mrmattybeck1]

Love island did well 970k not sure what bbuk got

[crazycolaist]

Love island did well 970k not sure what bbuk got



I hope BB consistently beats Love Island,

[mrmattybeck1]

My mistake that was love islands peak it got 433k average

[Will.]

Love island is a flop then

[Trasadkel1]

My mistake that was love islands peak it got 433k average

ITV 2 cannot be happy with that for a launch night. Mind you it sounds like it was truly dreadful from reading people's comments about it.

[mrmattybeck1]

Especially given the promotion makes bbuk numbers look good

[Beetlejuice]

Big Brother Sunday night 940k exc+1

[Trasadkel1]

Especially given the promotion makes bbuk numbers look good

In my opinion BB is still, and will always be, the best reality TV show on the TV for the drama and emotions it evokes in people. It's a shame that Channel 5 cannot utilise that. It could get so many more viewers if they were to listen to what the viewers want a bit more.

[Gstar]

phlõp

[mrmattybeck1]

In my opinion BB is still, and will always be, the best reality TV show on the TV for the drama and emotions it evokes in people. It's a shame that Channel 5 cannot utilise that. It could get so many more viewers if they were to listen to what the viewers want a bit more.
I think if channel 5 listened more bbuk is still capable of getting 1.5m every night

[Beetlejuice]

I think if channel 5 listened more bbuk is still capable of getting 1.5m every night

There's no reason why BB can't get CBB level ratings if done correctly. But I agree than Channel 5 need to listen.

[*mazedsalv**]

Weekend ratings:

Friday +1 still unknown but looks to be close to 1.30m.
Saturday- 800,000.

Last night got 1.07m which is not that bad against Love Island, I expected it sub 1m with +1.

LI didn't damage it much, only by around 40,000 from last Sunday, so all is good. LI got around half a million with +1. So I thought BB would have been hurt by it. But it wasn't. Last night BB was the closest it has been to BBC1. The BBC1 drama on at 9pm managed only 1.78m. One of the lowest BBC1 9pm ratings ever.

[Beetlejuice]

all is good.

:shocked:

[mrmattybeck1]

Weekend ratings:

Friday +1 still unknown but looks to be close to 1.30m.
Saturday- 800,000.

Last night got 1.07m which is not that bad against Love Island, I expected it sub 1m with +1.

LI didn't damage it much, only by around 40,000 from last Sunday, so all is good. LI got around half a million with +1. So I thought BB would have been hurt by it. But it wasn't. Last night BB was the closest it has been to BBC1. The BBC1 drama on at 9pm managed only 1.78m. One of the lowest BBC1 9pm ratings ever.
Under 2m for a BBC one drama wow that's bad [emoji33]

[*mazedsalv**]

:shocked:

All is OK I should have said.

The series has been very consistent since the 4 out 4 in twist. And watching everything tumble whilst BB keeps consistent (albeit low) is fine.

[mrmattybeck1]

All is OK I should have said.

The series has been very consistent since the 4 out 4 in twist. And watching everything tumble whilst BB keeps consistent (albeit low) is fine.
Agree everything is falling year on year it seems

[Beetlejuice]

All is OK I should have said.

The series has been very consistent since the 4 out 4 in twist.

They are maintaining figures which are terrible (compared to their own low standards of a couple of years ago). Good for them.

[mrmattybeck1]

They are maintaining figures which are terrible (compared to their own low standards of a couple of years ago). Good for them.
Good to see your positivity beetle juice [emoji1]you not a fan of bbuk

[Rob!]

Seems the hype from the newbies coming in has died down and we're back where we started. The old housemates going in should be interesting - I wouldn't be surprised if some of them do end up staying in an effort to boost the ratings a bit.
Love island was a complete and utter flop then. Good - it looks horrific. And if that was the launch figure, God only knows where it'll go from there.

[JohnnyBB]

im here for love island flopping!

[*mazedsalv**]

Seems the hype from the newbies coming in has died down and we're back where we started. The old housemates going in should be interesting - I wouldn't be surprised if some of them do end up staying in an effort to boost the ratings a bit.
Love island was a complete and utter flop then. Good - it looks horrific. And if that was the launch figure, God only knows where it'll go from there.

It's back to W1 figures, but it's still around 200k higher than the average figure it was getting in the week leading up to 4in4out so the newbies are still maintaining interest.

[Pete.]

Lmao at BBC1 flopping

[Rob!]

Should be getting officials today, and it's for the best rated week of the series so far so will be interesting to see how it goes. The 4 in 4 out night especially should rise a fair bit considering what it was up against that night.

[Will.]

Sat - 0.79 (no +1)
Sunday - 1.24
Monday - 1.20
Tuesday - 1.19 (no +1)
Wednesday - 1.11 (no +1)
Thursday - 1.46
Friday - 1.39
Saturday - 0.97 (no +1)
Sunday - 1.37 (no +1)

Bold indicates when 4 out 4 in started
So it's picking up from Friday on wards, which means the twist was successful

[arista]

Love island is a flop then


ITV2HD are falls to go on the same time
as CH5HD Big Brother


I would ensure it was Thursdays
as Ch5HD have it on at 9PM

So thats ideal for ITV2HD to go at 10PM

[Beetlejuice]

Sat - 0.79 (no +1)
Sunday - 1.24
Monday - 1.20
Tuesday - 1.19 (no +1)
Wednesday - 1.11 (no +1)
Thursday - 1.46
Friday - 1.39
Saturday - 0.97 (no +1)
Sunday - 1.37 (no +1)

Bold indicates when 4 out 4 in started
So it's picking up from Friday on wards, which means the twist was successful


A big twist is never going to fail to cause an increase in the short term.

[Will.]

ITV2HD are falls to go on the same time
as CH5HD Big Brother


I would ensure it was Thursdays
as Ch5HD have it on at 9PM

So thats ideal for ITV2HD to go at 10PM

Yeah BB and LI will both loose viewers if they go to head to head!

[Will.]

A big twist is never going to fail to cause an increase in the short term.

last week was decent so should be good officials next week, maybe a 1.6 considering Eileens eviction got around 1.3

[Kai Anders]

Anyone got the average rating for overnights and officials thus far? Interested to see the comparison between the two and other series.

[Jamesy]

Actually they did respond to criticism during BB14 and moved in the right direction. And it was the most successful series on Channel 5 (in terms of ratings - this is a ratings thread isn't it?). Then they went off in another direction and the show has been in steep decline ever since. They need to start listening to the criticism if they want to salvage the show.



The show is worse. Objectively worse. It is an interactive show and hardly anybody is impressed by it save for a few people here who will continue to shine **** and call it gold.



No, I will continue to be critical of it. You should grow up yourself and learn how to engage in debate.

The only thing they really responded with BB14 was live feed and the cast. No one asked for themes and more twists... Although I do agree it was a step in the right direction and it's pretty bizarre they scrapped the start of something great with BB14 and we ended up with the mess that was BB15 and this series (although I'm enjoying this series more than last years).

I do agree with most of your views, the show is worse and this series is a mess in all truth. Although constantly saying the same thing over and over and over again is not going to save the show, it's not going to make the producers think 'oh, lets improve the show following Beetlejuice on TiBB' and its not going to make Big Brother become the big great show it once was. Times have changed, Big Brother is a dying brand and people on forums don't want to read a member saying the same thing on every thread with nothing new to add.

I know how to engage in debates thank you. Although, without being rude, your constant jibes at any member who says an opinion opposite to yours is getting tedious, and even childish to read. Maybe you should learn that people can praise the show and it doesn't make them right or wrong.

[mrmattybeck1]

Truth is bbuk needs a rest

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Why doesn't everyone put Beetlejuice on ignore if they are so sick of his rants?

Noone has to listen to him.....Out of sight out of mind.

Anyway last nights rating sucked let be fair Sundays are BB's highest rated and for it to be below 1 million without +1 is crap.

I cant see it staying on Channel 5 tbh I think they will move it to MTV or some other channel next series.

[MB.]

Love Isflop

[Rob!]

Love Isflop

Shakespeare hue

[Jason.]

Wow Love Island did awful in the ratings. I'm quite surprised.

I wasn't expecting it to rate amazingly well, but surely above 600k at least. I mean there was a lot of hype for it, and it was trending on Twitter, from 9 til half 10.

I guess it was because it was up against Big Brother, so many +1ed LI.
Also, many people I know saw the first two minutes of LI, and puked.

[RichardG]

Were people expecting a lot from this Love Island then? I've never heard of it until now. :laugh:

[Rob!]

I don't see why anybody would expect anything from it. It didn't do that well when it was first on.

[Jamesy]

Was LI even worth watching? I didn't hear anything that great about it so don't feel too bothered watching it

[billy123]

Never heard of Love island the fact it is in the sae league as BB speaks volumes about how bad things have become.

[Jake.]

ITV2's Love Island remained steady at 9pm, pulling 0.42m (2.0%) for its second instalment - sending E4's Made in Chelsea crashing to a series low 0.37m (1.8%).

Big Brother averaged 1.05m (6.7%) at 10pm for Channel 5.

[Will.]

Decent, so over 1.1 with +1, very high share

BB14 got 1.35 without plus one with a 6.2% share

[JohnnyBB]

Hopefully this weekends twist could bring back some old time veiwers, hope it dosent back fire though too many veiwers thinking about old times.

[crazycolaist]

ITV2's Love Island remained steady at 9pm, pulling 0.42m (2.0%) for its second instalment - sending E4's Made in Chelsea crashing to a series low 0.37m (1.8%).

Big Brother averaged 1.05m (6.7%) at 10pm for Channel 5.

Kk I think we can say Big Brother is king of reality TV

[Beetlejuice]

Truth is bbuk needs a rest

It's had a rest for 5 years. It needs to come back.

[mrmattybeck1]

It's had a rest for 5 years. It needs to come back.
No it hasn't they should just continue with cbb for a few years

[Beetlejuice]

The only thing they really responded with BB14 was live feed and the cast.

The be all and end all of Big Brother.

Times have changed

Yes they have. But there was no need for the show to. Or if it did need to change it needed to retain what was essential to it, and build something new on top of that. Instead, they urinated all over the format of the show.

Big Brother is a dying brand.

Actually it's still doing well in other parts of the world. Where they have the live coverage. The fact is, Channel 5 could have breathed some new life into it had they given the fans of the show what they asked for. Unfortunately they have ruined it. And that is the reason it is in the state it is now in. It probably is beyond repair, but seeing as they have another 2 years of it, I think it's still worth stating why.


I know how to engage in debates thank you. Although, without being rude, your constant jibes at any member who says an opinion opposite to yours is getting tedious, and even childish to read. Maybe you should learn that people can praise the show and it doesn't make them right or wrong.

Sorry, I don't believe in "everyone's opinion is as valid as another person's". Some things are objectively bad and there's no way of getting around it. And the only way to confront it is to admit it. The apologists for this show, as it is done here in the UK, are just helping the people responsible for it not have to confront the truth. You will only cause every other series of BB to be even worse.

[Beetlejuice]

No it hasn't

Yes it has. What you have been watching for 5 years is a Frankenstein's Monster version of Big Brother.


they should just continue with cbb for a few years

Once they do that, it will be done for good. And CBB will soon go with it. Same thing happened with Fame Academy.

[Pete.]

ITV2's Love Island remained steady at 9pm, pulling 0.42m (2.0%) for its second instalment - sending E4's Made in Chelsea crashing to a series low 0.37m (1.8%).

Big Brother averaged 1.05m (6.7%) at 10pm for Channel 5.
BB looks great compared with those flops

[Rob!]

Is that with or without plus 1?

[Kai Anders]

I'm at least pleased these ratings are consistent, and hopefully with high-ish shares for the channel (6-7% compared to C5s usual 3-4%) it should bring in advertisers who see the channel share rise over the summer months, as oppose to actual viewership, making the show somewhat profitable despite the low viewing figures for this year. I wonder how the small break between this and CBB will affect viewership. Summer CBB tends to get about 8% shares while Winter is stronger with 10%, I get 6-8-10% isn't something to bad considering what other programmes on the channel tend to get.

Also wondering, if C5 were to, do you think they could feasibly move BB to one of their sister channels like MTV, 5* etc. or would they just call it quits completely? Noticed AHS has been picked up by 5* which should produce some fine ratings!

[*mazedsalv**]

1.09m incl +1

It's consistent, of course its still low, but still higher than it was before the newbies. Also to note that BB came 2nd in the slot just behind the BBC News. It beat ITV news.

So however low the ratings look, its beating ITV, BBC2 and C4 so C5 won't be worried.

[Beetlejuice]

Here's some positivity for you... The ratings are high enough that they probably won't axe it. But low enough that they might seriously consider some of the changes fans are telling them they need to make. Which is quite a healthy place for it to be in from a fans point of view. But I thought this last year.

[Jason.]

I don't see why anybody would expect anything from it. It didn't do that well when it was first on.

It did.
It often beat BB6, in ratings. And the final of the first series was watched by 5.9m.

The 2nd series in 2006 did worse, but it still got decent ratings around 3/4m. However, it was not strong enough to beat BB7 in ratings.

I think TV has changed a lot in ten years, especially with the rise of other shows such as TOWIE, MIC, and GS, which has put people off many other reality shows.

[Beetlejuice]

I think ITV were hoping it would do as well as I'm A Celeb when they came up with it.

I have to say that Brendan Cole smacking that little irritant from Hollyoaks was a great moment.

[uniquedude]

It did.
It often beat BB6, in ratings. And the final of the first series was watched by 5.9m.

The 2nd series in 2006 did worse, but it still got decent ratings around 3/4m. However, it was not strong enough to beat BB7 in ratings.

I think TV has changed a lot in ten years, especially with the rise of other shows such as TOWIE, MIC, and GS, which has put people off many other reality shows.

Big Brother is in essence the first real TOWIE/Geordie Shore of its time, now theres tons of competition.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Big Brother is in essence the first real TOWIE/Geordie Shore of its time, now theres tons of competition.

Nah the truly original one has to be "The Real World" which launched in like 1992 or something.

BB is also nothing like TOWIE or MIC which are trust me 70% scripted.

[Beetlejuice]

Big Brother is in essence the first real TOWIE/Geordie Shore of its time, now theres tons of competition.

Big Brother is absolutely nothing like either of those shows.

[Rob!]

1.13m inc +1 for last night. Love Island fell to 323k excl +1. Tee hee hee. :hehe:

[Liam-]

1.13m inc +1 for last night. Love Island fell to 323k excl +1. Tee hee hee. :hehe:

Oh how awful :hehe:

[Jason.]

I just think TV has changed a lot in the last decade. Especially Reality TV.

Look at Love Island. That format back in 2005/2006 got around 3m.
Nine years later, and it can't even scrape 500k.

That format was probably more popular back in 2006, but now in 2015, having eight single twenty-somethings looking for love doesn't really sound appealing and is not really popular at the moment, as it's been done before to a even trashier extent.

Same with BB.
The show used to get around 4-5m, about ten years ago. Now it's just above 1m.

The format of Big Brother was fresh then, now it's the same old same old. So it's not really popular or original anymore.

I don't think BB is like TOWIE/MIC/GS. As BB is a much bigger show. But the ratings don't really match up with the status of the show.

[Beetlejuice]

Same with BB.
The show used to get around 4-5m, about ten years ago. Now it's just above 1m.

The format of Big Brother was fresh then, now it's the same old same old. So it's not really popular or original anymore.

Alternatively, they turned their back on the format that had previously been proven a success and went with a modified format that has pissed the fans of the show off year after year.

I don't think BB is like TOWIE/MIC/GS. As BB is a much bigger show. But the ratings don't really match up with the status of the show.

It's not that BB is a bigger show. It's that it is not, or at least wasn't scripted reality.

As for Love Island... It's appeal was always the fact that they were celebrities. And it was on the main channel rather than ITV2.

[Jason.]

Alternatively, they turned their back on the format that had previously been proven a success and went with a modified format that has pissed the fans of the show off year after year.



It's not that BB is a bigger show. It's that it is not, or at least wasn't scripted reality.

As for Love Island... It's appeal was always the fact that they were celebrities. And it was on the main channel rather than ITV2.

That too.

[mrmattybeck1]

Truth is a lot have better things to do than watch bbuk 7 days a week but I will always be a fan of the show and I do like some of the channel 5 changes

[mrmattybeck1]

Ratings
Bbuk 1.01m
Love island 350k :)

[Jake.]

Not with +1 either, so it's probably about 1.1

[Pete.]

The ratings don't seem so bad in comparison to the flop that is Love Island

[Jason.]

The BB16 ratings are still worryingly low, though. Compared to every other series on Channel 5. I know it's getting over a million. But 1.1m is still awful, compared to the 1.5m that Channel 5 usually gets.

It's scary thinking this series is literally getting one third of the viewers that CBB15 got in January.

It's usually half of the viewers, now it's one third.

But, then again this series is not that good, Hopefully next year they fix up, and then they'll have another 1.6m average. At the moment, this series is averaging on 1.2m, which is almost 0.4m down on BB15, and 0.7m down on BB14.

[Pete.]

^ blame the producers lol

[VanessaFeltz.]

producers are so bad at their job last year people got mad when they manipulated the show and yet they are manipulating it EVER MORE this year ffs

[Jason.]

I just think they should kill Civvy BB, TBH.
It's never going to be good again.

They had a good run during 2012 and 2013. But ever since the rise of CBB, the quality of the Civilian series has dropped. Anyone else notice this?

[Pete.]

I just think they should kill Civvy BB, TBH.
It's never going to be good again.

They had a good run during 2012 and 2013. But ever since the rise of CBB, the quality of the Civilian series has dropped. Anyone else notice this?
This series had and still has potential if the producers stop playing around with the show because it affects the social dynamic of the show, which made BB13 and BB14 such great series

[TheManWhoLaughs]

I just think they should kill Civvy BB, TBH.
It's never going to be good again.

They had a good run during 2012 and 2013. But ever since the rise of CBB, the quality of the Civilian series has dropped. Anyone else notice this?

CBB9's still the best.

The only total dud between CBB9 and CBB13 was the Rylan & Speidi series but bizarrely that's the one they seem to want to emulate the most.

[Jason.]

This series had and still has potential if the producers stop playing around with the show because it affects the social dynamic of the show, which made BB13 and BB14 such great series

I agree. It was shaping up to be better than BB13/14 in Week 1 and 2. But the 4in4out twist butchered all of it.

The show is all about Marc now. Sick of the constant twists too. We still haven't had a week which consisted of normal nominations and a normal eviction, and just that. Even BB15 had Week 1 and Week 5.

[Will.]

But its getting the same shares even higher than 14/15 so it won't be getting more than it is because BB will never get 10% share of audience, its not CBB.


like 1.13 with BB16 is about 7.8% share.

with BB14 that would be like 1.4-5 with a 7.8%

TV veiewership is down, it won't get higher really as its getting a huge audience share.

[Trasadkel1]

I don't confess to know much about ratings but surely a lot of the problem is to do with how people watch TV now. Surely overnight figures are bound to go down due to the advent of sky +, Netflix demand 5 etc etc. I don't think people conciously sit down to watch a programme at the scheduled time like they used to as they know that it is so easy to catch up when it is convenient for them to do so. If you compare the ratings the soaps get now sometimes even they barely make 5/6 million when they used to get 10/12 million.

However I am probably talking bull so feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[Beetlejuice]

But its getting the same shares even higher than 14/15 so it won't be getting more than it is because BB will never get 10% share of audience, its not CBB.


like 1.13 with BB16 is about 7.8% share.

with BB14 that would be like 1.4-5 with a 7.8%

TV veiewership is down, it won't get higher really as its getting a huge audience share.

It isn't. But you keep hanging on to those share percentages.

[Will.]

It isn't. But you keep hanging on to those share percentages.

You really don't understand do you you idiot!

If it was getting the same amount of people watching as BB14 then it would be getting a 9-10% share and BB never gets that! It's not CBB!

[Rob!]

You really don't understand do you you idiot!

If it was getting the same amount of people watching as BB14 then it would be getting a 9-10% share and BB never gets that! It's not CBB!

Don't rise to it - just put him on ignore like I have. Hopefully he'll be banned before very much longer, seeing as he's been asked by a mod to just make a thread for his negative bollocks instead of cluttering up this thread with it and he's ignored it.

[Will.]

Don't rise to it - just put him on ignore like I have. Hopefully he'll be banned before very much longer, seeing as he's been asked by a mod to just make a thread for his negative bollocks instead of cluttering up this thread with it and he's ignored it.

Thank you! :clap1: