*** The Big Brother 16 ratings thread***

[Beetlejuice]

You really don't understand do you you idiot!

If it was getting 1.8 million viewers you would focus on that regardless of the share, as everyone else would. You are just grasping at straws to defend how badly this show is doing this year. A situation that will be repeated again next year the more people on here defend this mess.

[Will.]

If it was getting 1.8 million viewers you would focus on that regardless of the share, as everyone else would. You are just grasping at straws to defend how badly this show is doing this year. A situation that will be repeated again next year the more people on here defend this mess.

No I wouldn't because 1.8 M with a 5% share is crap!

[RichardG]

Doesn't a low figure with a high share just mean that people aren't turning their TVs on to watch Big Brother, which isn't really very good?? Like I don't know the first thing about viewing figues so I might be wrong but I would've thought that 1.8m would look more attractive to the channel and advertisers than 1.1m regardless of what the share is.

[Beetlejuice]

No I wouldn't because 1.8 M with a 5% share is crap!

It's worth more to them than 900k with a 6.8% share.

[Jason.]

Doesn't a low figure with a high share just mean that people aren't turning their TVs on to watch Big Brother, which isn't really very good?? Like I don't know the first thing about viewing figues so I might be wrong but I would've thought that 1.8m would look more attractive to the channel and advertisers than 1.1m regardless of what the share is.

That's what I thought too.

The %age share doesn't define the series average. It may be getting a 8% share or whatever. But that still makes it the lowest ever rated series of BBUK, not only on Channel 5, but in the history of Big Brother. In other words least watched series ever.

Those shares just show that TV viewership is down, not that Big Brother is doing well. If Big Brother was doing well, it would still have the loyal 1.6m viewers that it had during 2011-2014. They've lost about half a million of that.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Don't rise to it - just put him on ignore like I have. Hopefully he'll be banned before very much longer, seeing as he's been asked by a mod to just make a thread for his negative bollocks instead of cluttering up this thread with it and he's ignored it.

If you had put him on ignore how did you know who he was talking to? lol

Someones telling porkies.

Anyway another crap rating.

Nikki doesn't belong in a show getting a tiny viewerwship she is way to big of a character she belongs on IACGMOOH she was th made for that show.

[mrmattybeck1]

I just think they should kill Civvy BB, TBH.
It's never going to be good again.

They had a good run during 2012 and 2013. But ever since the rise of CBB, the quality of the Civilian series has dropped. Anyone else notice this?
It needs resting not killing that would be fair on the 1m loyal fans who still watch it myself included

[MB.]

If you had put him on ignore how did you know who he was talking to? lol

Someones telling porkies.

a) You can still see people you have on ignore if they're quoted.
b) You can choose to view a post if you want.

And trust me, I'd know. :thumbs:

[Jamesy]

I just think they should kill Civvy BB, TBH.
It's never going to be good again.

They had a good run during 2012 and 2013. But ever since the rise of CBB, the quality of the Civilian series has dropped. Anyone else notice this?

I agree tbh. Civilian BB has had its day. They should just scrap it for a while.

I think the general public generally cannot be bothered with 'real people' shows created in this 24 hour daily show format. It was a nice novelty 10 or so years ago although viewers just aren't dedicated enough these days.

'Celebrity' shows seem to still have a wide appeal so CBB certainly still has a place on Channel 5. Probably time to see the back of civilian BB though.

[Jason.]

It needs resting not killing that would be fair on the 1m loyal fans who still watch it myself included

It needs to follow Love Island and take a break for ten years.
Love Island is how real TV show take breaks.

Maybe 10 years is too long. I'd say about 5 is enough.

[Jason.]

I agree tbh. Civilian BB has had its day. They should just scrap it for a while.

I think the general public generally cannot be bothered with 'real people' shows created in this 24 hour daily show format. It was a nice novelty 10 or so years ago although viewers just aren't dedicated enough these days.

'Celebrity' shows seem to still have a wide appeal so CBB certainly still has a place on Channel 5. Probably time to see the back of civilian BB though.

Yes.

[Rob!]

If you had put him on ignore how did you know who he was talking to? lol

Someones telling porkies.

Anyway another crap rating.

Nikki doesn't belong in a show getting a tiny viewerwship she is way to big of a character she belongs on IACGMOOH she was th made for that show.

Erm, cause will had quoted him?

[crazycolaist]

Wow everybody is saying what i said last week now


let me tell you this
Netlifx,Amazon prime on demand thing, Online downloading are all up compared to 5 years ago hence why the shares combined with ratings are similar to compare 5 years.

Lets take a week for you guys to make sense of how TV habits are changing cause I said this a week ago in the same post I said big brother needs few years break. agh.

[Jamesy]

To be fair multiple people have been saying on here Big Brother needs a break for years

[Beetlejuice]

It needs resting not killing that would be fair on the 1m loyal fans who still watch it myself included

What it needs is to be brought back to life. Half of the people watching can't really be considered "fans"

[Beetlejuice]

To be fair multiple people have been saying on here Big Brother needs a break for years

It's been on a break for 5 years. Again.

[Beetlejuice]

I agree tbh. Civilian BB has had its day. They should just scrap it for a while.

Alternatively they can recognise that it doesn't work without the live coverage and develop a good website to host it.

I think the general public generally cannot be bothered with 'real people' shows created in this 24 hour daily show format. It was a nice novelty 10 or so years ago although viewers just aren't dedicated enough these days.

How can you be dedicated to it when it is impossible to keep up with? How can you be dedicated when you the viewers are as confused as to what is actually going on as the HMs.

People really should stop pretending that the BB format is tired when the BB format was turned on by Channel 5 from the start.

[Jamesy]

If you're quoting me Beetlejuice I can't see your posts, you're on ignore babes xo

[Beetlejuice]

If you're quoting me Beetlejuice I can't see your posts, you're on ignore babes xo

That's okay. But for people reading this forum, you must be corrected.

[RichardG]

do we really have to repeat the same conversations in this thread every single day?? D:

[Rob!]

1.1m including +1 for last night. Nothing really changing. Tonight will be the decider!

[Beetlejuice]

1.1m including +1 for last night. Nothing really changing. Tonight will be the decider!

It won't. Even if the figures go up, they're only there for a week. And it's not like they can go on repeating such stunts.

[Jason.]

I doubt this week will bring in much viewers.

4in4out didn't bring much viewers. I think this week will get around 1.5m, and then it will go back to 1.1m again, next week.

[Rob!]

The +1 figure was pretty substantial last night, it was at 957k without it - people clearly not aware it started at 9 and then it was probably ever so slightly dented by Love Island too - mind you, that only got 357k :hehe:

[Jason.]

The +1 figure was pretty substantial last night, it was at 957k without it - people clearly not aware it started at 9 and then it was probably ever so slightly dented by Love Island too - mind you, that only got 357k :hehe:

I'm enjoying LI more than BB, TBH.

[ruiphillips]

Not a chance of it getting 1.50. lol 1.30m maybe.

[Jason.]

4in4out got just about 1.4m.

So I don't see why tonight can't rate higher, especially considering that the ratings are slightly higher now, than they were pre-4in4out.

[crazycolaist]

I suggest 1.6-1.8 but weather is good. So maybe low overnight. And high Official maybe highest this series

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I suggest 1.6-1.8 but weather is good. So maybe low overnight. And high Official maybe highest this series

You think Nikki and Helen are going to bring in 700k more viewers?

Is your name Alice and do you know a giant talking rabbit by any chance?

[Jamesy]

Depending how much it gets spoken about on social media I could see tonight getting around 1.5-1.7m

Out of the line up of oldies though only Nikki will help with pulling in any new viewers.

[Rob!]

TFI Friday will dent it hugely I would think. 1.2m would be my prediction. Think there's football on somewhere as well.

[Kai Anders]

TFI Friday will dent it hugely I would think. 1.2m would be my prediction. Think there's football on somewhere as well.

That's my worry too, I'm definitely switching to see Rudimental and Years & Years play (sorry BB xoxo)

[aman201]

Gotta watch TFI really.

Liam and Blur ffs.

[Will.]

Hopefully its done well!

[jackc1806]

1.3-1.4m

TFI Friday will flop with 1.6-2.0m which is bad with the hype it got

[MB.]

1.2 million-odd

[VanessaFeltz.]

1,6

[mrmattybeck1]

3.7m for TFI Friday

[jackc1806]

3.67m!

For TFI Friday

****

[Pete.]

Lmao

[VanessaFeltz.]

Wait nvm

[mrmattybeck1]

Fantastic to see channel 4 doing well again

[jackc1806]

Fantastic to see channel 4 doing well again

Why? A one off special isn't exactly success. They've gone to **** over the past few years, their audience share is their lowest ever

[Jake.]

Big Brother: 1.13m (5.9%)

waiting for the +1

[VanessaFeltz.]

Loooool what a flop

[mrmattybeck1]

Why? A one off special isn't exactly success. They've gone to **** over the past few years, their audience share is their lowest ever
Just because they dropped bbuk superior to c5 in every way [emoji1]

[mrmattybeck1]

Twist flopped then i blame Helen

[jackc1806]

Twist flopped then i blame Helen

I blame it being up against 3.7m aha

[jackc1806]

Big Brother: 1.13m (5.9%)

waiting for the +1

Plus one is usually 80k ish so if it doubles for the legends it'll get like 1.3m

[Beetlejuice]

Channel 4 went back to basics with TFI Friday.

Maybe if Channel 5 tried that with Big Brother...

[Beetlejuice]

3.67m!

For TFI Friday

****

Best viewing figures Channel 4 have got since, erm, Big Brother.

[Will.]

well its not bad considering it got no promotion what so ever!

It started trending after 10pm so could be big +1

[Will.]

Digital Spy haven't added the plus 1 on their ratings article

[mrmattybeck1]

Channel 4 went back to basics with TFI Friday.

Maybe if Channel 5 tried that with Big Brother...
One day bettlejuice sadly they don't have a braincell between them

[Jamesy]

It doesn't help that C5 do naff all advertising

[Rob!]

C4 won the slot last night - God knows when that last happened. Fair play to them.

+1 should in theory be large but 1.2m is what I figured it would get anyway. Putting Helen in is a very risky move.

[Pete.]

Best viewing figures Channel 4 have got since, erm, Big Brother.
Lol it's true

[Kai Anders]

I expected 1.2 for BB, totally didn't see 3.6 for TFI, I watched a few minutes during the breaks of BB and thought it was utter carnage, just seemed messy and a lot like Kids TV like SMTV or something, nonetheless, c5 have themselves to blame sticking almost solely to online marketing, it's cheaper but not always the most clever idea.

[Jason.]

Yes, keep blaming Helen for the low ratings.
That's why her series averaged 1.6m, and this current series is averaging 1.2m.

:rolleyes:

In all fairness, last night was always going to rate badly.
C5 really need to promote. They actually suck crap at promotion and advertising.

It's like they come up with an idea, and just execute it straight away, without letting everyone know. They only started showing Timewarp teasers like 12 hours before the show, and only on Channel 5, too.

If they were smart, they would've advertised it throughout the entire week, like they did with Armageddon, instead of the day before.

[aman201]

You guys missed out.

TFI was mint.

[Jason.]

You guys missed out.

TFI was mint.

With chocolate chip? :flutter:

[Beetlejuice]

Yes, keep blaming Helen for the low ratings.
That's why her series averaged 1.6m, and this current series is averaging 1.2m.

Her series was the worst ever and put a lot of people off (partly her fault, mostly the production team's). And now she's haunting a series that has managed to be even worse than hers.

[billy123]

TFI Friday was pretty amazing I would love to see what its peak was as it kind of trailed off a bit while Lewis Hamilton was droning on for about half an hour.

[Will.]

I bet love island get seriously low, like 200k

[aman201]

Watched about 10 mins of that ****e.

Good grief, what a scatty show.

[Griffin5779]

Yes, keep blaming Helen for the low ratings.
That's why her series averaged 1.6m, and this current series is averaging 1.2m.



After she won a quarter of the audience was so disgusted to with giving her a pass to final..and Helen winning in generally..they swore to never watch BB again..So it i8s her fault:laugh:

[uniquedude]

Her series was the worst ever and put a lot of people off (partly her fault, mostly the production team's). And now she's haunting a series that has managed to be even worse than hers.

It didnt put off people who watched the last CBB which was the highest rated one on C5, so that theory is false. Clearly most casual viewers really enjoyed bb15 as much as it got hate on this forum.

[Rob!]

It didnt put off people who watched the last CBB which was the highest rated one on C5, so that theory is false. Clearly most casual viewers really enjoyed bb15 as much as it got hate on this forum.

I was really surprised that in the lead up to this series, Channel 5 were posting loads of clips from last year on Facebook and there were LOADS of people saying that it had been their favourite series ever!

[Beetlejuice]

It didnt put off people who watched the last CBB which was the highest rated one on C5, so that theory is false.

They're different shows.


Clearly most casual viewers really enjoyed bb15 as much as it got hate on this forum.

They didn't. Hence the reason so many people were up in arms at the result that they even had to release the voting figures to prove it to be true.

The fact is, the shows ratings were down last year and are down again this year.

The celebrity series is a different kettle of fish. Firstly, the January show always does better and secondly, it depends on the housemates they've got.

[Beetlejuice]

I was really surprised that in the lead up to this series, Channel 5 were posting loads of clips from last year on Facebook and there were LOADS of people saying that it had been their favourite series ever!

They delete the posts that say it was the worst series ever.

[Will.]

Helen is an iconic housemates weather you like it or not, when i think of BB14 I think of Helen, Pauline and Ashleigh! BB14 would be terrible without her, it would be dull and boring!

Ratings for BB14 weren't even that bad lmao!

[Jason.]

Helen is an iconic housemates weather you like it or not, when i think of BB14 I think of Helen, Pauline and Ashleigh! BB14 would be terrible without her, it would be dull and boring!

Ratings for BB14 weren't even that bad lmao!

Wrong series, mate.

[Will.]

Wrong series, mate.

What I'm trying to say is I dont think Helen is the reasons ratings are down

[Jason.]

What I'm trying to say is I dont think Helen is the reasons ratings are down

I agree.

But, I'm not going to bother arguing with her haters or Lostie!, for that matter. Who'd probably blame her for the September 11 attacks.

[Rob!]

What I'm trying to say is I dont think Helen is the reasons ratings are down

I think she's a big part of it. If you think what the ratings for secrets and lies were like (pushing 2m at times) and the fact that Ben Frow said he was happy with the ratings for Power Trip which did perform OK despite all the competition from the sport and look now...people were not happy with Helen. There was uproar to the point that Channel 5 were forced to release a lengthy statement detailing the voting numbers for the entire of the final night because so many people cried fix.
This year has had sod all competition for the most part. Yes it was on earlier in the year, but if people doing GCSEs were really the issue, the officials would be adding a LOT more onto the overnights than they currently are.

[Jason.]

I think she's a big part of it. If you think what the ratings for secrets and lies were like (pushing 2m at times) and the fact that Ben Frow said he was happy with the ratings for Power Trip which did perform OK despite all the competition from the sport and look now...people were not happy with Helen. There was uproar to the point that Channel 5 were forced to release a lengthy statement detailing the voting numbers for the entire of the final night because so many people cried fix.
This year has had sod all competition for the most part. Yes it was on earlier in the year, but if people doing GCSEs were really the issue, the officials would be adding a LOT more onto the overnights than they currently are.

I like your sig.

[Locke.]

I bet love island get seriously low, like 200k

1.4m viewers for the huge twist on Love Island last night with Paul Danan, Calum Best and Fran Cosgrave all returning

[Rob!]

Thanks :laugh:

Have we had the +1 for last night yet?

[Will.]

1.4m viewers for the huge twist on Love Island last night with Paul Danan, Calum Best and Fran Cosgrave all returning


more like 300k

[ruiphillips]

lmao what a flop. Not even Queen Nikki can bring viewers back.

[Jason.]

1.4m viewers for the huge twist on Love Island last night with Paul Danan, Calum Best and Fran Cosgrave all returning

Here for that.
Have no idea who the latter is though?

:shrug:

[JohnnyBB]

790k its the helen effect!

[Rob!]

790k its the helen effect!

No, that's called the Saturday effect ;)

[Jason.]

790k its the helen effect!

or the Saturday Night effect?

Is that with or without +1.

Interesting to see what tonight rates.

[Jason.]

No, that's called the Saturday effect ;)

Lol, you beat me to it.

How scary. We think alike.

[Rob!]

If that's excluding +1 then that's pretty good tbh.

[Rob!]

Lol, you beat me to it.

How scary. We think alike.

D:

[Rob!]

Meanwhile, 200k for Love Island :joker:

[Jason.]

If that's excluding +1 then that's pretty good tbh.

Yh.

It'll probably be 0.9m, with +1.

[Jason.]

Meanwhile, 200k for Love Island :joker:

About to say the same. :joker:

I'm enjoying LI, though. Despite, the awful ratings.

[Rob!]

Looking to be the highest Saturday of the series so far.

[Jason.]

Looking to be the highest Saturday of the series so far.

What did other Saturdays rate without +1.

I know the +1 officials were

1.03
0.79 - Up against Eurovision
0.97 - Up against X Factor

[JohnnyBB]

Thats without +1 shocking just 200k for love island i bet that sets cost them thousands too.

[Jason.]

Thats without +1 shocking just 200k for love island i bet that sets cost them thousands too.

In all fairness, last nights Love Island was just a recap episode showing everything from the past 5 days. So many people didn't bother tuning in, as they'd already seen it.

[Jamesy]

Looking to be the highest Saturday of the series so far.
If that's right then it's not too bad of a rating I guess, considering Saturday's ratings have been crap all series

[*mazedsalv**]

949k incl +1. Highest Saturday of the series. It was up around 90k from the previous highest Saturday which got 860k the day after the 4in4out twist.

[Rob!]

949k incl +1. Highest Saturday of the series. It was up around 90k from the previous highest Saturday which got 860k the day after the 4in4out twist.

Queen Nikki bringing in the ratings :clap1:

[Rob!]

949k incl +1. Highest Saturday of the series. It was up around 90k from the previous highest Saturday which got 860k the day after the 4in4out twist.

Did we find Friday's +1 rating?

[Jason.]

Wasn't the first Saturday the highest rated Saturday? The one after the Car Twist.

Not sure, though. These +1 ratings never match the actual officials from BARB. They're usually slightly higher.

949k is decent, though.

[Rob!]

Wasn't the first Saturday the highest rated Saturday? The one after the Car Twist.

Not sure, though. These +1 ratings never match the actual officials from BARB. They're usually slightly higher.

949k is decent, though.

It's very decent - will be comfortably over a million officially.

[Will.]

love island with 200k lmao

I'd love tonight to get like 1.5

[Pete.]

love island with 200k lmao

I'd love tonight to get like 1.5
It might because there is nothing else on

[uniquedude]

They're different shows.




They didn't. Hence the reason so many people were up in arms at the result that they even had to release the voting figures to prove it to be true.

The fact is, the shows ratings were down last year and are down again this year.

The celebrity series is a different kettle of fish. Firstly, the January show always does better and secondly, it depends on the housemates they've got.

Maybe on the forum yes but people i knew werent fussed about helen winning...believe it or not, not everyone cares.

[Rob!]

Well, I haven't seen the rating for last night anywhere yet, but it doesn't look good. Channel 4 are having an amazing week - their new drama Humans launched with 4m, which is apparently their highest overnight of the year so far. :worry:

[billy123]

Well, I haven't seen the rating for last night anywhere yet, but it doesn't look good. Channel 4 are having an amazing week - their new drama Humans launched with 4m, which is apparently their highest overnight of the year so far. :worry:Come on Rob get with the program we are ignoring C4 now they are doing well its all about BB v LoveIsland. every time BB rates higher than L.I. we celebrate. (until it doesnt beat it then we switch targets one of the shopping channels maybe?)

[Rob!]

Come on Rob get with the program we are ignoring C4 now they are doing well its all about BB v LoveIsland. every time BB rates higher than L.I. we celebrate. (until it doesnt beat it then we switch targets)

I sense sarcasm :hmph:

[Rob!]

1.13m excl +1 (5.4%). Hopefully will get over 1.2m with +1.

[billy123]

I sense sarcasm :hmph:Then you can be my friend :cheer2:

Yes im taking the piss as i often do but it is in a Self-deprecating manner too im hating this situation it really pains me to see BB struggle but you have to laugh.

[billy123]

1.13m excl +1 (5.4%). Hopefully will get over 1.2m with +1.
Thats holding its own i suppose. Not great for the third relaunch in 6 weeks but at least its not dropping.

[Jake.]

It's been consistent for the past few weeks at least

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Ita been brilliant viewing this weekend and my god I forgot what a force of nature Helen was lol. Its a crap rating its what it should be getting on a Saturday tbh but its to late in the series for it to pick up now.

This week is going to be full of drama I can see Harry walking tbh and good shes doing my ****ing nut in.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Looking forward t the meh officials to lol.

[Will.]

1.22 with +1

[Will.]

it had huge competition from channel 4, there new drama at 9pm got 3.9 MILLION!!!! Biggest opening for a drama since like 2004!!!

TOWIE got a very low 500k considering it has mass advertisement, ads for it in huge prime time ITV breaks.

Love Island got 350k.

[crazycolaist]

Ita been brilliant viewing this weekend and my god I forgot what a force of nature Helen was lol. Its a crap rating its what it should be getting on a Saturday tbh but its to late in the series for it to pick up now.

This week is going to be full of drama I can see Harry walking tbh and good shes doing my ****ing nut in.



Total flip sheep opinion much looking at your LQ moany posts.

I think we can say this BB has been a great sucess when comparing to the competition of the same type of show. Shame on itv what a waste of money for them

[jackc1806]

The latest officials are out:

Mon 1 June: 1,348,000 (no +1)
Tue 2 June: 1,560,000
Wed 3 June: 1,450,000
Thur 4 June: 1,354,000
Fri 5 June: 1,479,000
Sat 6 June: Approx 1m
Sun 7 June: 1,414,000

[Will.]

that week averaged 1.37, which takes the overall average to 1.36.

But not with +1, with +1 its probably averaging about 1.43

[Kai Anders]

that week averaged 1.37, which takes the overall average to 1.36.

But not with +1, with +1 its probably averaging about 1.43

That's pretty promising. 1.35 compared with last series 1.5 doesn't make it feel overly poor. I get ratings aren't where they should be, but at least they're consistent dipping above and below the million mark each episode in overnights. I'd like to think this series could achieve at least 1.4m in officials, however that'd be highly tough given we're half way through and 3 relaunches has done little to boost things. At least it's holding it's own against some strong competition!

[Kai Anders]

I have a feeling Humans success will be short lived. It'll always beat BB, but remember No Offence, that got something like nearly 3m viewers on it's first night, and it's last achieved something just above 1m. The same for Raised By Wolves, nearly getting 2m for it's launch, dipping to about 800K for the last instalment.

I actually enjoyed Humans on catch-up though am I the only one who thought it was seriously drab compared with what was expected? Like yeah the storyline was good but I wasn't gripped enough, there wasn't much visual attention, so I turned to #AskEmmaWillis

[Rob!]

I have a feeling Humans success will be short lived. It'll always beat BB, but remember No Offence, that got something like nearly 3m viewers on it's first night, and it's last achieved something just above 1m. The same for Raised By Wolves, nearly getting 2m for it's launch, dipping to about 800K for the last instalment.

I actually enjoyed Humans on catch-up though am I the only one who thought it was seriously drab compared with what was expected? Like yeah the storyline was good but I wasn't gripped enough, there wasn't much visual attention, so I turned to #AskEmmaWillis

Yeah I literally just finished watching it. It was alright but I dunno if I care enough to watch the next episode.

[Jason.]

Poor Love Island.
I'm actually enjoying it, TBH.

BB is doing well though. Looks like that 4in4out actually boosted ratings. Kind of annoying, as it ruined the series for me.

So far, BB16 is 0.2m behind BB15.

[Jamesy]

At least it's staying consistent.

As said it's too late for the ratings to pick up now several weeks in. All we gotta hope is that figures continue to stay consistent.

[Beetlejuice]

At least it's staying consistent.

Consistently ****e. Relying on desperate stunts and housemates from the glory days of its past.

Even the presenter is crying out for the live feed during the show. I find it all very amusing at this point

[Kai Anders]

Would Big Brother benefit from an even later timeslot? Looking at Secret Story 8 in France, most of their prime time shows achieved something like 1,700,000 viewers on average, well down on previous series, yet it held shares of 18-22%, compared with BBs 1,100,000 and 5-7% shares. Both countries have a near similar population and a near similar TV viewing audience, yet Secret Story is on at a much later time than BB (of course, it's higher ratings does help, but a near 15% increase compared is huge!)

[Beetlejuice]

Would Big Brother benefit from an even later timeslot?

No.

Looking at Secret Story 8 in France, most of their prime time shows achieved something like 1,700,000 viewers on average, well down on previous series, yet it held shares of 18-22%, compared with BBs 1,100,000 and 5-7% shares. Both countries have a near similar population and a near similar TV viewing audience, yet Secret Story is on at a much later time than BB (of course, it's higher ratings does help, but a near 15% increase compared is huge!)

All you've done is give us an example of why shares don't mean a thing. In a later time slot Big Brother would get lower viewing figures but a higher share.

[Beetlejuice]

Did Salv write the wiki entry for last year's Big Brother?

With a series average of just 1.57m, this is the lowest ever watched UK series, both from Channel 4 and Channel 5. However, it has to be taken into account that it was up against the 2014 FIFA World Cup and 2014 Commonwealth Games, which dented ratings on many occasions. On the other hand, the series launch attracted nearly two and a half million viewers, up on last year's series. On 15 August 2014, it was confirmed during the final that it will return for its sixteenth series, on Channel 5 in 2015.[6]

[TomC]

Did Salv write the wiki entry for last year's Big Brother?

:sleep:

[Jamesy]

Would Big Brother benefit from an even later timeslot? Looking at Secret Story 8 in France, most of their prime time shows achieved something like 1,700,000 viewers on average, well down on previous series, yet it held shares of 18-22%, compared with BBs 1,100,000 and 5-7% shares. Both countries have a near similar population and a near similar TV viewing audience, yet Secret Story is on at a much later time than BB (of course, it's higher ratings does help, but a near 15% increase compared is huge!)

If Big Brother was on a 'bigger' channel then it could work. On Channel 5 I doubt it would work out, I could see a later timeslot doing more damage tbh.

[Rob!]

1.10m (7.2%) excl +1 for last night. It deserves better.

[Will.]

1.10m (7.2%) excl +1 for last night. It deserves better.

thats quite good, 7.2 is a very high share.

[Will.]

I'm quite surprised it wass that high as I thought it would be like staurday were people don't tune in because they think its a repeat, the legends have increased the ratings as it was getting 1.1 with +1 normally.

[Rob!]

Can I just say that 470k tuned in to the first episode of the Clangers on CBeebies. The Clangers gets better ratings than BOTS :joker:

[Locke.]

1.10m

I'm quite surprised it wass that high

Good god

[MB.]

1.10m (7.2%) excl +1 for last night. It deserves better.

Bearing in mind that Made in Chelsea and Love Island couldn't reach 400k at 9pm last night, I don't think 1.1m's all that bad. At least it's consistent.

I think exam season's nearly over too, for anyone who was using that as an excuse for the low-ish ratings.

[Rob!]

Well yeah, this is the thing. It hasn't actually lost any viewers since the 4 in 4 out twist so in that respect it's good.
I just wish it was higher - Nikki alone deserves about 10m viewers.

[Blog Rider]

Can I just say that 470k tuned in to the first episode of the Clangers on CBeebies. The Clangers gets better ratings than BOTS :joker:

Which should be replaced with live from the house :laugh:

[Will.]

Third in its slot, although it could be higher as don't know weather it beat the news on BBC 1 and ITV

[Will.]

Can I just say that 470k tuned in to the first episode of the Clangers on CBeebies. The Clangers gets better ratings than BOTS :joker:

more than Love Island! :joker:

[Rob!]

Third in its slot, although it could be higher as don't know weather it beat the news on BBC 1 and ITV

Well it wouldn't have beaten BBC news :laugh:

[Jason.]

Not here for the Love Island shade. Especially from people who haven't even seen it. :nono:

I'm enjoying it more than BB16, TBH.

Can't stand the false arguments coming from Helen and Marc. Not to mention the others, as well.

I feel I know the contestants on Love Island much more than I know the housemates in Timebomb.
And Love Island has only been on for a week, whereas BB16 has been on for five.

Just out of curiosity, what did last nights Reduced (Yet still bigger) Bit on the Side rate?

It was a good episode, with Aisleyne.

[Jason.]

I just wish it was higher - Nikki alone deserves about 10m viewers.

BB7 didn't even get 10m.

:suspect:

[Rob!]

BB7 didn't even get 10m.

:suspect:

I was being dramatic.

:suspect:

[Gstar]

The queen will have to have sex in the swimming pool for channel 5 to get anywhere near 10m viewers

[Jason.]

I was being dramatic.

:suspect:

So was I.

[Will.]

Not here for the Love Island shade. Especially from people who haven't even seen it. :nono:

I'm enjoying it more than BB16, TBH.

Can't stand the false arguments coming from Helen and Marc. Not to mention the others, as well.

I feel I know the contestants on Love Island much more than I know the housemates in Timebomb.
And Love Island has only been on for a week, whereas BB16 has been on for five.

Just out of curiosity, what did last nights Reduced (Yet still bigger) Bit on the Side rate?

It was a good episode, with Aisleyne.

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[Jason.]

http://www.gifwave.com/media/46853_nene-leakes-nene-shade.gif

It's actually quiet sunny in Love Island.
There isn't much shade.

[aman201]

Nikki alone deserves about 10m viewers.

lol.

YEAH ALRIGHT MATE.

[Will.]

It's actually quiet sunny in Love Island.
There isn't much shade.

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[EspeonBB]

This season deserves to flop

[Rob!]

Ratings were late today - but it got 1.2m including +1.
Bots got 468k.

[Will.]

decent, just shows that drama and conflict brings in the ratings, people who say they hate Helen clearly still watch as it wouldn't be getting higher ratings with her in there.

Bosses are probably most certainly planning on keeping one or two of the legends.

[Rob!]

If Helen stays though... :facepalm:

[Jason.]

BOTS is doing bad too.

Didn't it usually rate around 600-700k, during BB15?

[Liam-]

If Helen stays though... :facepalm:

It will be glorious :flutter:

[Will.]

BOTS is doing bad too.

Didn't it usually rate around 600-700k, during BB15?

think it normally gets 300-440k, CBB15 bots was really high with like 800k

[Kai Anders]

Praying tonight's BOTS brings some casual viewers back, Twitter seems to approve of the old HMs returning.

[Rob!]

It was a low night across the board last night but still - 930k exl+1. Welp.

[Will.]

It was a low night across the board last night but still - 930k exl+1. Welp.


very low, strange!

[Jason.]

Very low, indeed.

Civvy BB has had its day.

[Beetlejuice]

Very low, indeed.

Civvy BB has had its day.

This series has. They can respond to the criticism like they did after series 4 and have good run with the necessary changes or they can kill it off altogether.

Paying the likes of Pamela Anderson to appear on the main series instead of using the money elsewhere was the first of many mistakes they've been making year after year.

[Jason.]

This series has. They can respond to the criticism like they did after series 4 and have good run with the necessary changes or they can kill it off altogether.

Paying the likes of Pamela Anderson to appear on the main series instead of using the money elsewhere was the first of many mistakes they've been making year after year.

I think if BB17 is as bad as the last 2 years have been. It should just be axed, TBH.

If they can't produce a good series, after 2 awful ones. Then I don't have much hope for BB18 and BB19.

[Beetlejuice]

I think if BB17 is as bad as the last 2 years have been. It should just be axed, TBH.

If they can't produce a good series, after 2 awful ones. Then I don't have much hope for BB18 and BB19.

God, another 3 years :shocked:

They won't give up on it just yet I don't think. The early start certainly hurt it. And it's still their most watched show for the longest period of time.

[Rob!]

1m including +1. Awful.

[JohnnyBB]

Wonder why raitings have slumped again

[Beetlejuice]

Wonder why raitings have slumped again

The weather.

Plus, it's ****. God knows what happens when the "legends" go.

[Jake.]

0.95 without plus 1

4.9% share

[Rob!]

But it had a HUGE +1 rating of 264k taking it up to 1.2m. :clap1:
Why do they do the 9pm thing on a Thursday? People clearly miss it.

[Will.]

But it had a HUGE +1 rating of 264k taking it up to 1.2m. :clap1:
Why do they do the 9pm thing on a Thursday? People clearly miss it.

Brilliant! :clap1:

[Pete.]

The weather.

Plus, it's ****. God knows what happens when the "legends" go.
:worry:

[Pete.]

I honestly don't think Channel 5 care about the ratings

[Will.]

the buzz of Aiselyne entering tonight should bring in the ratings

[Pete.]

the buzz of Aiselyne entering tonight should bring in the ratings
Here for it

[Will.]

Here for it

with Gina

[TomC]

Here for it

Omg your signature kills me :hehe:

[Jake.]

The plus 1 figure saved it

[bots]

the buzz of Aiselyne entering tonight should bring in the ratings

is that the buzz coming from her handbag :hehe:

[Jason.]

the buzz of Aiselyne entering tonight should bring in the ratings

Highly doubt it.

Nikki and the other legends entering hasn't really helped it much. So I'm not expecting just Aisleyne alone to bring the series average to 1.6m.

Can't wait for Aisleyne, though. :flutter:

[Rob!]

It really is not budging. 1.07 excl +1 for last night. Should be up to the old 1.2m with +1.

[Will.]

It really is not budging. 1.07 excl +1 for last night. Should be up to the old 1.2m with +1.

As long as it gets 1.2 with +1 then its decent as that will get officials of 1.4-6.

[MB.]

Can't wait for Aisleyne, though. :flutter:

same

[Will.]

Looking on Twitter some BB fans love Helen, some saying she should be on every BB series and she's TV gold.

[Jason.]

Looking on Twitter some BB fans love Helen, some saying she should be on every BB series and she's TV gold.

I'm shocked to see she's topping the legends poll.
A lot of people are preferring her this year, as opposed to last year. I'm the opposite.

I loved her in BB15, but she's annoying this year. She needs to pipe down.
She's got Danny, Jack, and Cristian spot on though. So kudos.

[Beetlejuice]

I'm shocked to see she's topping the legends poll.

That poll has been rigged imo. Nikki and Brian were way above her last night

[Pete.]

Looking on Twitter some BB fans love Helen, some saying she should be on every BB series and she's TV gold.
:omgno:

[Jason.]

That poll has been rigged imo. Nikki and Brian were way above her last night

My thoughts too.

I mean she's gained a few fans. But certainly not enough to top the poll beating Nikki with 9%.

But then again, that poll last night had only about 120 votes. It's almost 500 now.

[Beetlejuice]

My thoughts too.

I mean she's gained a few fans. But certainly not enough to top the poll beating Nikki with 9%.

But then again, that poll last night had only about 120 votes. It's almost 500 now.

If you looked at BB Spy just before it stopped a couple of days ago, Nikki was leading having started with a massive lead, Brian was catching her and Helen was way behind. Usually the TIBB and BB Spy polls are quite close

There's no way Belo would be bottom of it.

[Jason.]

If you looked at BB Spy just before it stopped a couple of days ago, Nikki was leading having started with a massive lead, Brian was catching her and Helen was way behind. Usually the TIBB and BB Spy polls are quite close

There's no way Belo would be bottom of it.

As of now on the TiBB poll.
There is 480 votes cast.

Helen has 182 votes.
Nikki has 152 votes.
Brian has 146 votes.

Such a big lead.

[Beetlejuice]

As of now on the TiBB poll.
There is 480 votes cast.

Helen has 182 votes.
Nikki has 152 votes.
Brian has 146 votes.

Such a big lead.

It's had votes removed...

BB16 2015 - Who is your favourite 'legend' housemate now?
Brian 40.2%
Nikki 32.3%
Helen 27.4%

Total votes: 368
You have already voted!

[Jason.]

It's had votes removed...

BB16 2015 - Who is your favourite 'legend' housemate now?
Brian 40.2%
Nikki 32.3%
Helen 27.4%

Total votes: 368
You have already voted!

:o

Wow. Rigged by 100 votes.

I've noticed the fav and least fav polls have also changed.

[Beetlejuice]

:o

Wow. Rigged by 100 votes.

I've noticed the fav and least fav polls have also changed.

Yep, somebody clearly multivoted for Marc and Helen

[BB4fan]

Looking on Twitter some BB fans love Helen, some saying she should be on every BB series and she's TV gold.

She is TV gold. She's the Dot Cotton and Pat Butcher of BB.

She's an absolute legend and she should be able to win it again.

[crazycolaist]

She is TV gold. She's the Dot Cotton and Pat Butcher of BB.

She's an absolute legend and she should be able to win it again.



Er, Nah mate. Where does Helen come from? That place up in north that had its day in the Industrial Revolution & which nobody gives 2 about in 2015. On the other hand with Landan yea loool Helen is nothing round here. She is no pat butcher or dot cotton. She is like that barlow biatch from corrie. which is just northen junk to go with her

She is entertaining. but shes no ghetto b like charley U from bb8 so dont go comparing that type with landans types yea?

kthxbi.

[jackc1806]

It's a miracle!!

1.02m EXCLUDING +1

[Jake.]

Oh, that's good then

[Rob!]

:amazed: :amazed:

That's an incredible rating!!

[Will.]

omg wow!

Might be high as it was on at 10?

And viewers stuck around after seeing the house kick off at the end of the eviction.

[Jarrod]

:clap1: It's the 10pm miracle slot.

[Jason.]

That's a really good rating for BB16 standards, of course.
Well done, Channel 5.

[Will.]

That's a really good rating for BB16 standards, of course.
Well done, Channel 5.

beat all of BB15 Saturdays, and all of BB14 Saturdays apart from 1.

[billy123]

BBUK getting a million viewers is a miracle these days is that where we are :joker:
Cool.

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[Will.]

BBUK getting a million viewers is a miracle these days is that where we are :joker:
Cool.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/CHSC7ASSCZWEM/200_s.gif

no basically Saturday always get really low! LIKE 700K - 900k, so 1.1-2 M on a Saturday is really good.

If it got 1 M without +1 in the week it would be nothing special.

[Beetlejuice]

The show remains a travesty.

[aman201]

Indeed.

[Firewire]

Saturday shows are always really good for some reason

[Will.]

Most of the officials have changed probably due to +1.

The series isn't averaging 1.36, it's now 1.42

[Rob!]

Most of the officials have changed probably due to +1.

The series isn't averaging 1.36, it's now 1.42

Not bad tbh. Could be worse.

[Will.]

Not bad tbh. Could be worse.

yeah its only 100k down on last years, but this should go down as the last 2 weeks have been consistent with 1.1-3.

[Rob!]

Love Island got 270k last night. How much longer is it on for?

[Jason.]

In all fairness, a Saturday show in BB12-BB15 would usually get 1.1/1.2m excluding +1 anyway. Sometimes even more.

So it's not much of an achievement in general. But by BB16 standards, it's a decent rating, considering all the Saturday Highlights have gotten less than a million this series.

[Jason.]

Love Island got 270k last night. How much longer is it on for?

Nobody watches Saturday Love Island.
It's a recap episode showing us everything from the past week, which we've already seen.

It's basically one week in one episode.
I don't bother tuning in to it, as I've already seen the stuff.

I think it's on for another 4 weeks.

[Rob!]

In all fairness, a Saturday show in BB12-BB15 would usually get 1.1/1.2m excluding +1 anyway. Sometimes even more.

So it's not much of an achievement in general. But by BB16 standards, it's a decent rating, considering all the Saturday Highlights have gotten less than a million this series.

It beat all of BB15's Saturdays and BB14 only went above a million on a Saturday twice. So excl +1 being over it is quite an achievement.

[Jason.]

It beat all of BB15's Saturdays and BB14 only went above a million on a Saturday twice. So excl +1 being over it is quite an achievement.

Depends what the official figure with +1 is.

It may be higher excluding +1. But if only few watch it on +1. It will rate 1.07m overall. Let's say.
That's not as good as say BB15's Week 5 Saturday, which rated 1.26m

[Will.]

In all fairness, a Saturday show in BB12-BB15 would usually get 1.1/1.2m excluding +1 anyway. Sometimes even more.

So it's not much of an achievement in general. But by BB16 standards, it's a decent rating, considering all the Saturday Highlights have gotten less than a million this series.

it beat most of 15 and 14 Saturdays I think

[Rob!]

Nobody watches Saturday Love Island.
It's a recap episode showing us everything from the past week, which we've already seen.

It's basically one week in one episode.
I don't bother tuning in to it, as I've already seen the stuff.

I think it's on for another 4 weeks.

4 weeks? Every day? Wow. That'll be interesting by the end :joker:

[Beetlejuice]

Not bad tbh. Could be worse.

It deserves Love Island's ratings

[Rob!]

It deserves Love Island's ratings

Don't start, you were becoming bearable.

[Jason.]

4 weeks? Every day? Wow. That'll be interesting by the end :joker:

No, not everyday.

There's no show on Friday. And Saturday's show is irrelevant. So it's pretty much on five times a week.

Sundays-Thursdays.

Not here for the LI shade. :nono:

The ratings looks bad in comparison to BB. But it's not like this series is getting BB14 ratings, anyway. BB16 is also flopping, so taking the piss out of LI ratings is a bit hypocritical when most people who do are defending a 1.1m including +1 rating for a BB highlights show.

Plus, LI is far more enjoyable than BB16, IMO.

The fact the legends are in there for another week, just shows how dead this series is, that they are using Helen Wood of all people to keep it alive.

[Kai Anders]

Interesting that Thursdays show with Pete Bennet and the other old HMs returning is Demand 5's most popular show atm, so hopefully that'll suggest that little week including Saturday's rating would see a small boost, hopefully upping the official from 1.42 to 1.45?

[daniel-lewis-1985]

It deserves Love Island's ratings

Ah ffs why have you started piping up again you had calmed down a tiny bit the show has been really enjoyable the last few weeks ive been proper enjoying it.

Why are you still even watching? Like its taking up sooooooo much of your time it seems.

You are on these forums all day every day moaning about how crap the show is im being serious do you not have anything better to do with yourself pal other than watch a "crap show" and complain about it on a forum for most of your waking hours?

Its a a bit sad.

I usually spend loads of time on the forums but I haven't found this year as appealing or enjoyed it as much as previous years hence my absence im not gonna sit here and waste my time everyday saying how crap it is I moved on when it was **** but I got interested again when the legends went back in and im loving this series now and caught back up with it all.

I would go as far as saying now I look forward to the episodes like I used to with BB14 instead of feeling like I have to watch out of loyalty.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

No, not everyday.

There's no show on Friday. And Saturday's show is irrelevant. So it's pretty much on five times a week.

Sundays-Thursdays.

Not here for the LI shade. :nono:

The ratings looks bad in comparison to BB. But it's not like this series is getting BB14 ratings, anyway. BB16 is also flopping, so taking the piss out of LI ratings is a bit hypocritical when most people who do are defending a 1.1m including +1 rating for a BB highlights show.

Plus, LI is far more enjoyable than BB16, IMO.

The fact the legends are in there for another week, just shows how dead this series is, that they are using Helen Wood of all people to keep it alive.

BB fans are celebrating the rating because only weeks ago the Saturday episodes were getting like half a million lol so its gained about 600k.

LI deserves "ratings shade" god I hate that saying its cringe because its doing terrible!

[Beetlejuice]

Ah ffs why have you started piping up again you had calmed down a tiny bit the show has been really enjoyable the last few weeks ive been proper enjoying it.

Even Big Brother's biggest fan Brian Belo is in tears over it.

Why are you still even watching? Like its taking up sooooooo much of your time it seems.

At this point I'm fascinated by the trainwreck.

You are on these forums all day every day moaning about how crap the show is im being serious do you not have anything better to do with yourself pal other than watch a "crap show" and complain about it on a forum for most of your waking hours?

It's a shame more people aren't. They may actually try doing the things that need to be done to change it. But some are actually praising them for this. So you'll probably get more of the same next year.

[Jason.]

I love how everyone gets annoyed at Beetlejuice.

:joker:

[Will.]

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[Jamesy]

Last nights got 1.00m (4.7%) without +1

[Will.]

Last nights got 1.00m (4.7%) without +1

very boring episode tbh, it probs has a big +1 like the Thursday did being on at 9pm, we get officials today.

[Jake.]

1.17 for last night altogether

[Will.]

1.17 for last night altogether

decent

[Will.]

Love Island got 400k (2.0%)

BB wasn't that far off from beating BBC One which only got 1.5 M, BBC One coming third in the slot is pretty poor for them.

BBC 1 - 1.5 M

BBC 2 got 940k

ITV got 6.2 M

Channel 4 got 3M

Channel 5 got 1.17M

all at 9pm

[Gypsy]

humans was great

[Rob!]

Quite a bit of competition last night.
That BBC drama at 9 must be one of their biggest flops ever.

[Will.]

Quite a bit of competition last night.
That BBC drama at 9 must be one of their biggest flops ever.

Yeah BBC did terrible last night, they need more modern shows I think.

[Rob!]

Yeah BBC did terrible last night, they need more modern shows I think.

I think that show would have done better on BBC2.

[billy123]

Good to see C4 doing really well. They really are thrashing Chavvel 5 these days.
No suprise really as they invest in developing their own shows and movies rather than just relying on throwing money at external production companys.
Its not long ago people on here were taking the piss out of C4 but those herberts have gone very quiet now :joker:

[Rob!]

Good to see C4 doing really well. They really are thrashing Chavvel 5 these days.
No suprise really as they invest in developing their own shows and movies rather than just relying on throwing money at external production companys.
Its not long ago people on here were taking the piss out of C4 but those herberts have gone very quiet now :joker:

Their premiere for Humans was their best rates drama since 2002, they haven't exactly got a lot else to cheer about.

[Jason.]

w/e 14th June (excluding +1)

Monday - 1.36m
Tuesday - 1.34m
Wednesday - 1.34m
Thursday - 1.28m
Friday (Bunker Fake Eviction + Legends returning) - 1.34m
Saturday - 996k
Sunday (Live Show - Legends enter main house) - 1.42m

http://www.barb.co.uk/whats-new/weekly-top-10?

[Beetlejuice]

To me, it's about where it needs to be. It's still Channel 5's highest rated show but it's considerably lower than previous years, especially BB14.

My only concern is that figures having gone up slighty will convince them that 4in4out/Legends/More interference are the keys to success. It's quite depressing to think that they still might not think they have anything to change next time round.

[Will.]

Some officials with +1

Sunday - 1.42
Thursday - 1.46
Friday - 1.46
Saturday - 1.17
Sunday - 1.55

[VanessaFeltz.]

Some officials with +1

Sunday - 1.42
Thursday - 1.46
Friday - 1.46
Saturday - 1.17
Sunday - 1.55

nice ratings tbh i stopped watching it again it is getting boring

[Rob!]

Some officials with +1

Sunday - 1.42
Thursday - 1.46
Friday - 1.46
Saturday - 1.17
Sunday - 1.55

Hmm. Could be worse I guess.

[Jason.]

The series is currently averaging 1.32m.

[Jake.]

1.01 not including +1

[Jason.]

1.01 not including +1

I'm not sure if that's bad.

But, that's awful considering Saturday's highlights got just slightly higher, excluding +1.

[Kai Anders]

That chunky 1.55 is nice for Sunday, I agree, it's a shame twists like 4 in 4 out and the legends thing brings in those casual viewers as imo it's unnecessary for the series and just lowers the standards of the show evermore as Trash TV.

[Jamesy]

4in4out and the legends didn't really bring in many more casual viewers. We've had a 200k rise at most for most nights. I don't think it's quite the raise in figures C5 was hoping for, and personally I don't think either of the big twists have helped the series in any way.

[Jason.]

I hope these twists like 4in4out and the legends, which have bumped up ratings ever so slightly do not make the producers think that it's what we want, and encourage them to do more crap twists in future series to keep ratings up. When realistically, they just damage the show.

[Jake.]

1.11 (7.2%) at 10PM

[Will.]

1.11 without +1 so presumably about 1.2 with +1

[Rob!]

3rd in it's slot and a decent share.

[billy123]

Their premiere for Humans was their best rates drama since 2002, they haven't exactly got a lot else to cheer about.:joker:

[Kai Anders]

hoping these next few days gets a bump in official ratings, with storeroom gate yesterday and Brian trying to run up the walls to escape in tonights, i'd like to think that'll create a small buzz!