Survivor: Kaôh Rōng Discussion Thread

[Braden]

Literally spoiled myself as I'm watching the episode :p

I wish it was Neal instead of Liz :(

[iRyan]

I can't believe how much that one guy looks like Obama.

Debbie's jealousy of Liz </3

[iRyan]

They better do a tripe swap soon

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think another reason why I liked last week's episode a lot is because it was such a great example of how you need relationships with people and a good social game to do well, and you can't get by just on talking strategy and making plans 24/7. It was such an anti-gamebot, anti-Hantzian episode :love:

[reece(:]

Not long hons

[LukeB]

Not long hons

is debbie going this episode with Caleb and someone else?

[reece(:]

is debbie going this episode with Caleb and someone else?
just one medevac

[reece(:]

Lizbot </3

[reece(:]

Strategist Debbie <3

[reece(:]

Not the reward challenge already

[Calderyon]

I can´t wait for Debbie to leave tbh.

[Calderyon]

Wow, never seen a challenge happen so quickly.

[reece(:]

Not foreshadowing a death

[reece(:]

Alecia kicking the sand <3

[LukeB]

Debbie <3

[reece(:]

Joe taking care of Deb <3

[LukeB]

omg, pray for debbie </3

[reece(:]

Prayz 4 Debbie

[LukeB]

I only know

Caleb is going to fall ill or something

and I didn't think I would care about that but i'm actually gutted now.

[reece(:]

I only know

Caleb is going to fall ill or something

and I didn't think I would care about that but i'm actually gutted now.
Same!!

So much better than in BB16

[LukeB]

Same!!

So much better than in BB16

I agree, I didn't hate him on BB16 but he's deffo better on Survivor. And i loved his friendship with Tai and not doing the boys alliance, he was with the girls last week.

[reece(:]

Glad Debbie is ok <3

[reece(:]

EW vile Jason leave Alecia alone

[Macie Lightfoot]

Jeff literally calling it a carnival game is so mega cynical. pretty soon he'll just be like "I serve no real purpose :)"

[LukeB]

woah this is crazy

[reece(:]

Omg this is so tense :(


Caleb :( Cydney crying :(

[Calderyon]

Wow at Caleb. :shocked:

[LukeB]

:( Caleb, I feel bad for him

[reece(:]

The Beauty tribe :( :(

[Calderyon]

Wow that was strangely very upsetting to see Caleb go that way.

But he did score a guaranteed return in a result for that incident. And deservedly so.

[Macie Lightfoot]

why do they think we need subtitles for Tai :/

[reece(:]

Caleb will be back

Guessing there's still a tribal

[Calderyon]

Now that there is 14 people left, they could do a tribe reshuffle and create 2 tribes instead of 3.

[Jack_]

Can anyone explain why if someone's medevaced on Survivor that's their game automatically over? Yet if it happened on BB they might return

Like if he was there and back in 24/48 hours what's the problem?

[LukeB]

No wonder why the reward challenge was so early, but yeah I hope we see Caleb again.

[LukeB]

Can anyone explain why if someone's medevaced on Survivor that's their game automatically over? Yet if it happened on BB they might return

Like if he was there and back in 24/48 hours what's the problem?

I could be wrong but Survivor is more intense and mentally and physically strong than BB, more of a risk for their health.

[reece(:]

Debbie :love:

[Calderyon]

Can anyone explain why if someone's medevaced on Survivor that's their game automatically over? Yet if it happened on BB they might return

Like if he was there and back in 24/48 hours what's the problem?

Cause the voting cycle is 3 days, i think.

[reece(:]

Alecia <3

Scot is such a ****

[Braden]

Can anyone explain why if someone's medevaced on Survivor that's their game automatically over? Yet if it happened on BB they might return

Like if he was there and back in 24/48 hours what's the problem?

Because most of the people who are medically evacuated could risk becoming fatally ill if they were to stay in the game. Medics usually say that it will take a bit of time for them to recover.

[Macie Lightfoot]

yas hunty yas

[reece(:]

"I played soccer during my life" <333

[reece(:]

"Ya'll missing my recuperation" Lmao

[LukeB]

Alecia :worship:

Immunity comp must be on soon because there isn't long left.

[Macie Lightfoot]

what does Alecia need to take responsibility for?

[Macie Lightfoot]

how haven't we had a Beauty scene yet wtf

[reece(:]

Guessing it's a tribe shuffle coming

No TC

[Calderyon]

Too little time to have an immunity challenge, commercial and a tribal with a vote off.

[Jack_]

drag em Alecia <3333333 the guys on her tribe are SO vile

I could be wrong but Survivor is more intense and mentally and physically strong than BB, more of a risk for their health.

Cause the voting cycle is 3 days, i think.

Because most of the people who are medically evacuated could risk becoming fatally ill if they were to stay in the game. Medics usually say that it will take a bit of time for them to recover.

Thanks for your responses, makes sense

Felt sorry for him, he was soooo much better in this than I thought he'd be

[reece(:]

Not 3 tribe immunity

[LukeB]

Brawn tribe needs to win,, scot and Jason can stay until the merge/swap I just want Alecia to stay.. and I hope beauty wins too because of Tai.

[reece(:]

Alecia may be doomed </3

[Calderyon]

Hopefully Beauty wins, don´t care about what happens with the other two.

[Macie Lightfoot]

ugh is the Age of Alecia coming to an end :(

[Jack_]

Vile

[reece(:]

rip Alecia

[Calderyon]

Bye Alecia.

They might go tribal straight after commercial.

[LukeB]

The end of Alecia </3 two of my favourites in one episode :o

[Calderyon]

Maybe they do a vote now.

[Macie Lightfoot]

alollllll Alecia trolling them

[Jack_]

bye these guys are awful

[reece(:]

Evil Brawn need to crash and burn now

[Macie Lightfoot]

fan fave Alecia last name <3

[reece(:]

the Brawn guys are ****s for not even bothering on the puzzle

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alecia getting the first finale boot vote off music <333333 work that returning spot girl

[LukeB]

Alecia going over the vileness </3

[reece(:]

Alecia WILL be back!

[Calderyon]

She was screwed from the start tbh. She should have been in the Beauty tribe all along.

[reece(:]

Alecia deserved the swap!

[Jack_]

Jason and Scott worse than Will and Rodney? I think so

She was screwed from the start tbh. She should have been in the Beauty tribe all along.

I think it's pretty amazing that the hottest player this year wasn't on the beauty tribe :shrug:

[reece(:]

ew if Brawns go to F3 now after what Jeff said

[reece(:]

Jason and Scott worse than Will and Rodney? I think so



I think it's pretty amazing that the hottest player this year wasn't on the beauty tribe :shrug:
Liz?

[reece(:]

BYE at Alecia being robbed of swap

[LukeB]

bye at a switch next week.

[Calderyon]

Wow. Alecia not even getting a final confessional.

[Jack_]

Liz?

Nowhere near

[Calderyon]

Liz was second hottest, at least.

[reece(:]

Liz was far and away hottest :think:

[Jack_]

I really don't see the attraction :unsure:

[reece(:]

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[reece(:]

Hate ha

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[Macie Lightfoot]

Wow. Alecia not even getting a final confessional.

She had final words right after TC before the commercials

[Jack_]

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slay em in May Jeff :clap1:

[Calderyon]

Apparently during the reward challenge the temperature was over +40 degrees celsius in the shadow.

[reece(:]

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slay em in May Jeff :clap1:
Yas Jeff :clap1::clap1::clap1:

It must get worse, THEY BETTER NOT BREATHE AIR TO TAI

[reece(:]

Why could I have predicted this?

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[Calderyon]

Scot and Kyle have earned their place in my personal Survivor Hall of Turds and A-holes -list, which currently has Rodney, Will, Dan and Colton residing in it.

[Mokka]

why do they think we need subtitles for Tai :/
I was thinking this very same thing

Hate ha

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this is vile

[Mokka]

I have to say, I was disappointed with that reward challenge... Caleb gave up his whole entire game for salt and pepper for the tribe... I don't know why all three tribes didn't walk away from that scenario and just be like .. It's not worth it man.

I think it was negligent on productions half to have a challenge like that one set up to take an hour in midday heat... it had dire effects on three cast members... it angers me really

and I have never liked Caleb, but i actually welled up with tears watching that scene go down. It's tragic that it even happened

[AarynGriesfan]

You have to be a special kind of douchebag to come off as worse human beings then Dan Foley and Will Sims. But some how Scot and Jason are pulling that one off.

[Mokka]

You have to be a special kind of douchebag to come off as worse human beings then Dan Foley and Will Sims. But some how Scot and Jason are pulling that one off.

and still are based on those tweets

[Macie Lightfoot]

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[DrunkerThanMoses]

Lol Jeff describing Debbie going under the log in the reward challenge

"Like a Turtle birthing a egg"

:laugh:

[JerseyWins]

Watching the episode now. Caleb :( :( :( :( :(

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Jason and Scott

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/14/14e67b01c7eba1931dfdd2d098eda1cba45ca8eb582bd4198c a9f7a640ce6335.jpg

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Jesus first Debbie, then Caleb now Cydney.

The person who gave the okay for this challenge needs to be sacked lol

[JerseyWins]

This boot order is atrocious. :umm2:

And it really sucks that Caleb had to go this way.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Jason giving the big speech about how he has to look after the team if one falls. Yet 5 mins ago he was telling Alecia to **** off when she was trying to give some support.

Such a twat

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Scott and Jason are just embarrassments to not only Men but to the Human Race

[Dominic]

Cydney is repulsive

[Dominic]

Cydney is repulsive

[Headie]

Cydney is repulsive

This OTT Cydney hate is boring now

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Cydney is playing a great game. I think she is going to win.

[Headie]

Kelley Wentworth finished 14th in her original season - foreshadowing Alecia's second chance?

[Dominic]

This OTT Cydney hate is boring now

Your posts about any hated black girls teas

[Headie]

Your posts about any hated black girls teas

This argument is also boring too

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Very hard to watch the episode with the 3 people needing medical and devastating result with Alicia going home.

[EspeonBB]

That was such a rollercoaster of an episode. I hated Caleb on BB16 but I kinda liked him this season and his medevac was really tough to watch :( But I really want to know who on production thought it was a good idea to get them to dig for hours in 40 degree heat

Alecia :( :( :( She's one of my fave pre-mergers of all time and I'm hopeful she can come back for a second season. Scot and Jason are honestly some of the worst contestants this show has ever had and I fear this season will serve Worlds Apart and they won't really get a comeuppance. I'm glad that everyone (casuals, die hard fans, even Jeff Probst) seem to hate them and support Alecia :clap1:

[Samm]

The medevac was really hard to watch, I also didn't like Caleb on BB but I really warmed to him on here and was kinda sad he left, did anybody feel really uncomfortable watching the bits where Caleb & Cydney were struggling to breathe.

Jason & Scot are scum and I really hope they get booted off soon, Alecia <\33

[Braden]

Alecia will be missed :( Hopefully she will get to play again.

The reward challenge was intense. I didn't expect it to be so emotional, but it was sad seeing Caleb have to leave like that. I can't imagine how brutal the conditions were that day, and Debbie describing the heat stroke was legitimately terrifying.

[Braden]

Also, Anna's edit continues to confuse me. She is getting fairly good content in comparison to the other females on Gondol, but seems to be destined as pre-juror.

I wouldn't be surprised if Anna is swapped over with Nick or Tai (or even both) and she's thrown under the bus due to her ties with the other two girls.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Cydney sucks and is boring but she's probably my winner choice by default and I'm not even mad about it bc there are so many more worse choices. I was hopeful for a Beauty girl but they didn't get a scene after Caleb's medevac so I think they're toast

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Cydney sucks and is boring but she's probably my winner choice by default and I'm not even mad about it bc there are so many more worse choices. I was hopeful for a Beauty girl but they didn't get a scene after Caleb's medevac so I think they're toast

No beauty is winning. The girls are still being mushed together, going into episode 5 I know they are in a girls alliance but I dont know any of them.

Scott is not winning, Jason could win but that would be horrible.

Joe and Peter are not winning

Debbie's edit is just all over the place, first 2 episodes she gets the annoying edit and just comes across as a clown. Last 2 episodes is a completly different person. Even then I dont see her winning

Aubry and Neal are very under the radar and calm and collective. Dark Horses

The winner is either Cydney, Jason (:mad:), Aubry or Neal.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I hate Jason Scott and Cydney so much...

[reece(:]

I s2g if Anna gets swap****ed :/

[Mokka]

I don't get what Cydney did wrong :shrug:

I mean she didn't throw herself in front of the hatred bus that is Scot and Jason... but I feel like on that tribe it would be game suicide, and it is all about survival.

[Braden]

She's enabling two of the worst people in the game. I just can't get behind someone like that.

...I definitely wouldn't say she's repulsive though.

[_Tom_]

Holy ****, what a crazy episode seeing everyone dropping like flies! :o

Such a tragic ending with Alecia getting voted off. :bawling: Jason and Scott are a pair of assholes.

[Mokka]

She's enabling two of the worst people in the game. I just can't get behind someone like that.

...I definitely wouldn't say she's repulsive though.

She got stuck with two of the worst players in survivor history... there is no winning against those two... they don't listen to reason... there is only survival

[DrunkerThanMoses]

She got stuck with two of the worst players in survivor history... there is no winning against those two... they don't listen to reason... there is only survival

Agreed she knows what she is doing.

[Braden]

I'm just not bothered by her either way. She could turn out to be a good character if she somehow detaches herself from the two dickheads (tribe swap might help her), but for now I just don't enjoy watching her.

Plus, the game never really plays a factor in whether I like or dislike someone tbh.

[JerseyWins]

No beauty is winning. The girls are still being mushed together, going into episode 5 I know they are in a girls alliance but I dont know any of them.

Scott is not winning, Jason could win but that would be horrible.

Joe and Peter are not winning

Debbie's edit is just all over the place, first 2 episodes she gets the annoying edit and just comes across as a clown. Last 2 episodes is a completly different person. Even then I dont see her winning

Aubry and Neal are very under the radar and calm and collective. Dark Horses

The winner is either Cydney, Jason (:mad:), Aubry or Neal.
Agreed completely with all of this except I think one of the beauty girls could win... it's just hard to tell which has a good chance because they're barely on the show. :laugh:

Isn't barely being shown a good thing though or is it not like that in Survivor? Cause like in BB, if you're not being shown in the beginning it's most likely because you're playing a good game and gonna go far. I feel like that might be even more the case on Survivor since it's pre-recorded and they already know who's going to be around later (so they can give them more air time later).

[Natalie.]

Felt really bad for Caleb, I liked him in BB mainly but preferred him on this and seeing Tai cry :(

The people I'm liking are Neal, Debbie, Tai, Aubry and Cydney.

[AarynGriesfan]

Agreed completely with all of this except I think one of the beauty girls could win... it's just hard to tell which has a good chance because they're barely on the show. :laugh:

Isn't barely being shown a good thing though or is it not like that in Survivor? Cause like in BB, if you're not being shown in the beginning it's most likely because you're playing a good game and gonna go far. I feel like that might be even more the case on Survivor since it's pre-recorded and they already know who's going to be around later (so they can give them more air time later).

A lot of the time they try to hide the winner so who knows. The reason I think the beauty girls aren't getting a lot of air time yet is that they got their act together and haven't gone to tribal yet. If they keep getting no air time after the swap then they have no chance but its too early to rule them out yet especially Anna she seems to have a good shot I think.

[EspeonBB]

I think I would enjoy Cydney if she wasn't associated with Jason/Scot

That being said I don't blame her for sticking with them and voting Alecia out since there's a 50% chance she could have gone home if there was a tie and drew rocks, better to play it safe imho. She's probably my winner pick too because she's been shielded from a lot of the negativity in the Brawn tribe and has had a decent amount of screentime

[Calderyon]

Only ones i´m rooting for is Tai and the girls on Beauty tribe.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Agreed completely with all of this except I think one of the beauty girls could win... it's just hard to tell which has a good chance because they're barely on the show. :laugh:

Isn't barely being shown a good thing though or is it not like that in Survivor? Cause like in BB, if you're not being shown in the beginning it's most likely because you're playing a good game and gonna go far. I feel like that might be even more the case on Survivor since it's pre-recorded and they already know who's going to be around later (so they can give them more air time later).

A lot of the time they try to hide the winner so who knows. The reason I think the beauty girls aren't getting a lot of air time yet is that they got their act together and haven't gone to tribal yet. If they keep getting no air time after the swap then they have no chance but its too early to rule them out yet especially Anna she seems to have a good shot I think.

Nope I am ruling out any of them winning, if one did win they would at least show us some personality to them, which they have failed to do. Its the same, they are in a girl alliance and thats it. They was looking for a 4th vote, and it spent them 3 Episodes to pick Caleb only for Caleb to go out the next episode? The girls alliance is only being shown because it gives the beauty tribe some screen time.

Lets see what happens with this Swap, maybe we finally get some personality with them and actually figure out who each one is.

[VanessaFeltz.]

I am backing up Debbie to win at this point.. And i feel like she CAN win

[AarynGriesfan]

Nope I am ruling out any of them winning, if one did win they would at least show us some personality to them, which they have failed to do. Its the same, they are in a girl alliance and thats it. They was looking for a 4th vote, and it spent them 3 Episodes to pick Caleb only for Caleb to go out the next episode? The girls alliance is only being shown because it gives the beauty tribe some screen time.

Lets see what happens with this Swap, maybe we finally get some personality with them and actually figure out who each one is.

You can rule them out if you want but I am not. As far as I can tell the only person left in the game who has gotten a truly positive edit has been Tai. To me that means either Tai is your winner which is possible or he's just the guy the editors want you to love only to crush your dreams later on when he gets voted out late in the game.

[VanessaFeltz.]

"Did you get the sense that either Jason or Scot were throwing the challenge, or at least not trying that hard to win?

They knew a swap was coming, they knew a target was going to be put on Jason’s back, and they knew they had to get me out.

This wasn’t shown. At the end of the challenge, I was on the puzzle and I looked at Jason and Scot and said ‘switch.’ They wouldn’t switch. I yelled ‘switch me!’ and they still wouldn’t, and Jeff was like ‘Alecia is looking at the Brawn tribe and getting no love from the Brawn tribe.’ They wouldn’t switch with me, they laughed at me, and we lost the challenge. I think they intentionally did that to get me to tribal because they knew I was a spatial threat and I was going to put a target on their backs."

As i thought they were throwing the challenge

[reece(:]

They were throwing because they refused to do the puzzle

[reece(:]

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/10/survivor-jeff-probst-kaoh-rong-caleb-alecia-debbie-episode-4?platform=hootsuite

[Macie Lightfoot]

A lot of the time they try to hide the winner so who knows.

the last time a winner was hidden was Sophie? And before that Natalie W? Winner edits have been super obnoxious lately.

[iRyan]

I got pretty emotional during the reward challenge scenes, the bits with Caleb in particular made me start to cry! It was so real.

[Headie]

from alecia’s exit interviews
-she tried to pull off a 3-2-1 vote on the first tribal which is why she didnt admit or deny having an idol
-she tried chopping down the tree where the idol key was at but the producers told her no so she started climbing the tree
-cydney told her that she’s solid w the female alliance and it wasnt until jennifer changed her mind that cydney told alecia that there’s a change of plans and to write down jennifer’s name, which is why she trusted cydney a lot


And y'all hate Cydney, smh

Bye @ producers not letting Alecia cut down the tree to get the idol she deserves!

[Samm]

Lmao @ her trying to chop down a tree

[AarynGriesfan]

the last time a winner was hidden was Sophie? And before that Natalie W? Winner edits have been super obnoxious lately.

I would be curious to see a confessional count for female winners.I feel like they get far less confessionals then the male winners. You named the 2 most obvious under edited winners but I feel like even Kim who had one of the most dominate wins ever even she was under edited early on.

Tai and Jason are the clear front runners at this point but I am still holding out hope for some others because a Jason win would be aweful.

[Headie]

Damn, Liz really got herself injured during the show:

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http://imgur.com/a/eR7ex

[EspeonBB]

Damn, Liz really got herself injured during the show:

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http://imgur.com/a/eR7ex

Omg D: (I shouldn't have clicked on the link bc I'm really squeamish :laugh:)

Cambodia seems like such a brutal location to film in. It's a miracle how no one from SC got medevaced

[LukeB]

Damn, Liz really got herself injured during the show:

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http://imgur.com/a/eR7ex

what the :omgno:

[Braden]

Wow, I didn't think it was that serious. Those pictures are crazy.

[reece(:]

Wow, poor Liz D:

[Mokka]

Oh my... that's kinda freaky

[Dominic]

The Beauty Girls' edits are probably the closest to winner edits idk

Also idk if this has been posted but ew:
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[Headie]

Survivor 33: Winners Season Final Two leaked
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[LemonJam]

Scot and Jason are seriously the worst.

[Green Monster]

So that was pretty hardcore episode, really revealling once again just how real it is out there, with the proverbial curtain drawn to see the production team in full effect at that challenge.

The question us, why was it necessary?

Yes, challenges are tested prior to them being attempted by the players but by people that are not already relatively dehydrated, as the players were. And surely the duty of care should have asked, was it prudent to run such a challenge in that heat? Could it not have been done earlier early in ther morning or later in the afternoon?

Brian Corridan wrote (http://www.truedorktimes.com/s32/corridan/e4.htm) of similiar incidents that happened during his time playing in Guatemala, another notoriously harsh seasons, of players being wiped out by the conidtions and similiar scenes occuring, and even though we saw footage of the effects of the 12 mile hike on a number of the guys being wiped out, but there were quite a number of other instances that season also.

So it is not as is, after 30-odd seasons that the production team were dealing with unchartered waters as they were back in 2001, when Skupin fell in the fire hands first.

There is a reason why the locals that lives in these climes and conditions do things at the time of the day when things were not at their hottest. Ther producers of the show have to have some duty of care towards the players. So either they didn't consider what eventuated was likely to happen, or that they just didn't bother to even consider it a possibility.

And it raises a question that, with the medical team on hand there to look after the players that there was only 1 doctor amongst them. Now it is possible that there are 2 medical officers in the production team, but that th other was treating Liz at Loser's Lodge for the staph infection (or was with her when she had to be medivac'd from LL because of that), but there was another dr on the scene. Surely Peter, who has reminded so often during his confessionals that 'as an ER doctor' would have been a handy man to have on the scene, yet we saw none of this either.

Meanwhile, Probst is gushing over Jason helping take care of Cydney. The same guy who has been all too often protrayed as a bully, yet is getting these curious edits and coments of priase from Probst... Well, no real surprise there, as Probst definitely has his type that he likes.

Speaking of the Scot &Jason attitudes toward Alecia, is is pretty disgusting to see how that was portrayed and in no way condoning their attitude or actions, because they are indefensible. However, Alecia is far from being worthy of all the priase that has been lavished on her also. More on that in a moment, but a couple of thoughts on the edit that Caleb got this season compared to the way he was presented in BB.

In BB, we saw 2 distinct sides of Caleb; the one that gave off some creepy unsettling vibes as the lvelorn puppydog set on Amber, and the one that we saw after her departure from the game. This last one seems more in kkeping with the Caleb we saw in this season, but I can't help but think that the producers were probably hoping for the one that creeped Amber out when they were doing the casting. Anyhow, he genuinely got a bit of a heroes edit, and although he is obviously doing well and survived, but it goes to show the engths that he would go to when doing 'beast mode cowboy'.

Am sure other players, especially when they knew they were only doing all this for some salt and pepper probabaly thought, is this worth the effort? In a word, no. But some competitiors just can't think that way. They have to go all out. Like what Brian described about Stephenie in that link above, and just like Caleb here.

Calbe won the battle and ultimately lost the war because of it. But given the titlecard in mid-ep (something unprecedented, not even last year when Terry went home), as well as yhe comment during final words, that Alecia didnt get to give, seems pretty indicative that Beast Mode Cowboy almost certainly will be back on Survivor.

The Tai edit continues to remind of the one Yau-Man got in Fiji, where Probst is angling every question his way for impromptu sound bytes. There are obviously other examples of this, but Yau is the most immediate coming to mind, given just rewatched Fiji as inspired byt the most recent series of Historians podcasts, lol.

But putting all that to the side.

Have bit my lip for the most part these past few weeks, in order to give the benefit of the doubt based on the number of Alecia fans here and elsewhere, to try and percieve what it was that they admired so much about her. But it completely aludes me. Really cannot work out why there seems to be such a strong core of support for her.

The gameplay was atrocious, the social play was poor, the self awareness non-existant. Over the course of the 4 episodes that she has been in it was a curious edit, one largely omitting how she was so annoying to Scot & Jason (in particular), yet highlighting her perseverence in starting the fire. Done obviously with the desire to skew public opinion. Then not only in confessional but openly admitting that she was intending to flip come a swap. TBH, I do get the feeling that Brawn may not have tried super dooper hard as they may have at the challenge (esp the guys) after that, in order to vote her out, as they had the numbers, the HII and with her openly declaring her intention to flip not only made her nothing but an expendible liability.

Ok, so I can see how the others saw the benefit of keeping an easy boot around the first time that this tribe went to TC, and Jenny pretty much single-handedly blew up her own game the next time, but there was no getting out of it this time.

But I digress...

So why did we get to see such a curious edit? At TC Probst said it himself, he was wanting to root for her, and with the level of influence that Probst has over the show then there is that spin on the edit of what we saw from her.

Does Alecia deserve the amount of support or hate? No, to both of these. So, I really don't get why so many are so empassioned by her, because, in the grand scheme of things, she is just kinda meh. Am sure had the events been different and Brawn had of gone through the first few challenges largely undefeated, then others in this game would easily have been given that amount of screen time. But clearly given what the editors felt best added to the story of the season, especially with Brawn going to TC so often was someone to root for; an underdog. And thats how she was presented. Which again comes back to what Probst was saying at TC. The fact that this particular Probst comment was deemed worthy of inclusion in the episode cannot understate the intention of having given Alecia such a prominant edit - good, bad or indifferent.

There has been comparisons made between J'Tia, Shirin, Abi etc. A case can be made for each, but why give this girl, and these others such prominant edits? Shirin was not a particularly good player the first, and only recency bias explains why she got a second chance. Abi the same even though over her 2 seasons her ability to really get under people's skins . J'Tia comparisons are probabaly the most accurate in terms of recency bias, as there are so many reasons these 2 are cut from the same clth, so to speak.

But there are a core that like the law of uinintended consequences. Put a trainwreck of a person in the game and see what chaos they can cause. Some people fixate on this and call it entertainment, and it can be. It can be very entertaining. Sugar in Gabon was entertaining. For better or worse, Dreamz in Fiji caused situations that led to entertaining outcomes and controversy. Hell, even Lil in PI had elements of this latter course, even though she was far from being entertaining.

Does Alecia deserve such a prominant edit? Participation on 1 small tribe for 4 episodes, erven on such a trainwreck crew as this Brawn incarnation would suggest no.

A real benchmark for a positive pre-merge edit was set wayyyy back in 2001. Compare Alecia with, say Gina from Marquesas. Gina was a pre-merge boot that had an incredibly positive and prominant edit, showed great spirit, had the ability to be socially adaptable, had perseverence and never gave up either. All of this lead the the sense there was a genuine sadness when she was voted out of the game.

How many of these boxes did Alecia tick? One. Maybe.

But what was it that people admire so about Alecia? The perseverence to not give up and that is about it. On every other level Alecia was a fail.

Way to celebrate true mediocrity. So, yay Alecia, I guess? :rolleyes:

[iRyan]

Damn, Liz really got herself injured during the show:

(warning: graphic)

http://imgur.com/a/eR7ex

Holy ****, that is horrifying. I guess even if she survived that vote she would've been med evac'd eventually.

[Macie Lightfoot]

So that was pretty hardcore episode, really revealling once again just how real it is out there, with the proverbial curtain drawn to see the production team in full effect at that challenge.

The question us, why was it necessary?

Yes, challenges are tested prior to them being attempted by the players but by people that are not already relatively dehydrated, as the players were. And surely the duty of care should have asked, was it prudent to run such a challenge in that heat? Could it not have been done earlier early in ther morning or later in the afternoon?

Brian Corridan wrote (http://www.truedorktimes.com/s32/corridan/e4.htm) of similiar incidents that happened during his time playing in Guatemala, another notoriously harsh seasons, of players being wiped out by the conidtions and similiar scenes occuring, and even though we saw footage of the effects of the 12 mile hike on a number of the guys being wiped out, but there were quite a number of other instances that season also.

So it is not as is, after 30-odd seasons that the production team were dealing with unchartered waters as they were back in 2001, when Skupin fell in the fire hands first.

There is a reason why the locals that lives in these climes and conditions do things at the time of the day when things were not at their hottest. Ther producers of the show have to have some duty of care towards the players. So either they didn't consider what eventuated was likely to happen, or that they just didn't bother to even consider it a possibility.

And it raises a question that, with the medical team on hand there to look after the players that there was only 1 doctor amongst them. Now it is possible that there are 2 medical officers in the production team, but that th other was treating Liz at Loser's Lodge for the staph infection (or was with her when she had to be medivac'd from LL because of that), but there was another dr on the scene. Surely Peter, who has reminded so often during his confessionals that 'as an ER doctor' would have been a handy man to have on the scene, yet we saw none of this either.

Meanwhile, Probst is gushing over Jason helping take care of Cydney. The same guy who has been all too often protrayed as a bully, yet is getting these curious edits and coments of priase from Probst... Well, no real surprise there, as Probst definitely has his type that he likes.

Speaking of the Scot &Jason attitudes toward Alecia, is is pretty disgusting to see how that was portrayed and in no way condoning their attitude or actions, because they are indefensible. However, Alecia is far from being worthy of all the priase that has been lavished on her also. More on that in a moment, but a couple of thoughts on the edit that Caleb got this season compared to the way he was presented in BB.

In BB, we saw 2 distinct sides of Caleb; the one that gave off some creepy unsettling vibes as the lvelorn puppydog set on Amber, and the one that we saw after her departure from the game. This last one seems more in kkeping with the Caleb we saw in this season, but I can't help but think that the producers were probably hoping for the one that creeped Amber out when they were doing the casting. Anyhow, he genuinely got a bit of a heroes edit, and although he is obviously doing well and survived, but it goes to show the engths that he would go to when doing 'beast mode cowboy'.

Am sure other players, especially when they knew they were only doing all this for some salt and pepper probabaly thought, is this worth the effort? In a word, no. But some competitiors just can't think that way. They have to go all out. Like what Brian described about Stephenie in that link above, and just like Caleb here.

Calbe won the battle and ultimately lost the war because of it. But given the titlecard in mid-ep (something unprecedented, not even last year when Terry went home), as well as yhe comment during final words, that Alecia didnt get to give, seems pretty indicative that Beast Mode Cowboy almost certainly will be back on Survivor.

The Tai edit continues to remind of the one Yau-Man got in Fiji, where Probst is angling every question his way for impromptu sound bytes. There are obviously other examples of this, but Yau is the most immediate coming to mind, given just rewatched Fiji as inspired byt the most recent series of Historians podcasts, lol.

But putting all that to the side.

Have bit my lip for the most part these past few weeks, in order to give the benefit of the doubt based on the number of Alecia fans here and elsewhere, to try and percieve what it was that they admired so much about her. But it completely aludes me. Really cannot work out why there seems to be such a strong core of support for her.

The gameplay was atrocious, the social play was poor, the self awareness non-existant. Over the course of the 4 episodes that she has been in it was a curious edit, one largely omitting how she was so annoying to Scot & Jason (in particular), yet highlighting her perseverence in starting the fire. Done obviously with the desire to skew public opinion. Then not only in confessional but openly admitting that she was intending to flip come a swap. TBH, I do get the feeling that Brawn may not have tried super dooper hard as they may have at the challenge (esp the guys) after that, in order to vote her out, as they had the numbers, the HII and with her openly declaring her intention to flip not only made her nothing but an expendible liability.

Ok, so I can see how the others saw the benefit of keeping an easy boot around the first time that this tribe went to TC, and Jenny pretty much single-handedly blew up her own game the next time, but there was no getting out of it this time.

But I digress...

So why did we get to see such a curious edit? At TC Probst said it himself, he was wanting to root for her, and with the level of influence that Probst has over the show then there is that spin on the edit of what we saw from her.

Does Alecia deserve the amount of support or hate? No, to both of these. So, I really don't get why so many are so empassioned by her, because, in the grand scheme of things, she is just kinda meh. Am sure had the events been different and Brawn had of gone through the first few challenges largely undefeated, then others in this game would easily have been given that amount of screen time. But clearly given what the editors felt best added to the story of the season, especially with Brawn going to TC so often was someone to root for; an underdog. And thats how she was presented. Which again comes back to what Probst was saying at TC. The fact that this particular Probst comment was deemed worthy of inclusion in the episode cannot understate the intention of having given Alecia such a prominant edit - good, bad or indifferent.

There has been comparisons made between J'Tia, Shirin, Abi etc. A case can be made for each, but why give this girl, and these others such prominant edits? Shirin was not a particularly good player the first, and only recency bias explains why she got a second chance. Abi the same even though over her 2 seasons her ability to really get under people's skins . J'Tia comparisons are probabaly the most accurate in terms of recency bias, as there are so many reasons these 2 are cut from the same clth, so to speak.

But there are a core that like the law of uinintended consequences. Put a trainwreck of a person in the game and see what chaos they can cause. Some people fixate on this and call it entertainment, and it can be. It can be very entertaining. Sugar in Gabon was entertaining. For better or worse, Dreamz in Fiji caused situations that led to entertaining outcomes and controversy. Hell, even Lil in PI had elements of this latter course, even though she was far from being entertaining.

Does Alecia deserve such a prominant edit? Participation on 1 small tribe for 4 episodes, erven on such a trainwreck crew as this Brawn incarnation would suggest no.

A real benchmark for a positive pre-merge edit was set wayyyy back in 2001. Compare Alecia with, say Gina from Marquesas. Gina was a pre-merge boot that had an incredibly positive and prominant edit, showed great spirit, had the ability to be socially adaptable, had perseverence and never gave up either. All of this lead the the sense there was a genuine sadness when she was voted out of the game.

How many of these boxes did Alecia tick? One. Maybe.

But what was it that people admire so about Alecia? The perseverence to not give up and that is about it. On every other level Alecia was a fail.

Way to celebrate true mediocrity. So, yay Alecia, I guess? :rolleyes:

I'm not quite sure I understand your point, can you elaborate some more please?

[LemonJam]

Really cannot work out why there seems to be such a strong core of support for her.

The gameplay was atrocious, the social play was poor, the self awareness non-existant.

pretty much answered your own question. <3

Me personally, I'd much prefer to watch a messy tribal cockroach for 4 episodes than a self-aware strategist for a season.

[Dominic]

Yeah but gameplay is boring and overrated and the constant shoving of gamebots down our throats is what ruin Survivor. Cambodia was atrocious.

Litteraly what you said about Alecia is exactly why she's my fave

[Samm]

Agree with the posts above however I live for Debbie's gameplay

[Dominic]

Agree with the posts above however I live for Debbie's gameplay

Yh Debbie actually makes gameplay fun to watch. But last season we had to deal with Jeremy, Spencer, Stephen etc

[VanessaFeltz.]

So that was pretty hardcore episode, really revealling once again just how real it is out there, with the proverbial curtain drawn to see the production team in full effect at that challenge.

The question us, why was it necessary?

Yes, challenges are tested prior to them being attempted by the players but by people that are not already relatively dehydrated, as the players were. And surely the duty of care should have asked, was it prudent to run such a challenge in that heat? Could it not have been done earlier early in ther morning or later in the afternoon?

Brian Corridan wrote (http://www.truedorktimes.com/s32/corridan/e4.htm) of similiar incidents that happened during his time playing in Guatemala, another notoriously harsh seasons, of players being wiped out by the conidtions and similiar scenes occuring, and even though we saw footage of the effects of the 12 mile hike on a number of the guys being wiped out, but there were quite a number of other instances that season also.

So it is not as is, after 30-odd seasons that the production team were dealing with unchartered waters as they were back in 2001, when Skupin fell in the fire hands first.

There is a reason why the locals that lives in these climes and conditions do things at the time of the day when things were not at their hottest. Ther producers of the show have to have some duty of care towards the players. So either they didn't consider what eventuated was likely to happen, or that they just didn't bother to even consider it a possibility.

And it raises a question that, with the medical team on hand there to look after the players that there was only 1 doctor amongst them. Now it is possible that there are 2 medical officers in the production team, but that th other was treating Liz at Loser's Lodge for the staph infection (or was with her when she had to be medivac'd from LL because of that), but there was another dr on the scene. Surely Peter, who has reminded so often during his confessionals that 'as an ER doctor' would have been a handy man to have on the scene, yet we saw none of this either.

Meanwhile, Probst is gushing over Jason helping take care of Cydney. The same guy who has been all too often protrayed as a bully, yet is getting these curious edits and coments of priase from Probst... Well, no real surprise there, as Probst definitely has his type that he likes.

Speaking of the Scot &Jason attitudes toward Alecia, is is pretty disgusting to see how that was portrayed and in no way condoning their attitude or actions, because they are indefensible. However, Alecia is far from being worthy of all the priase that has been lavished on her also. More on that in a moment, but a couple of thoughts on the edit that Caleb got this season compared to the way he was presented in BB.

In BB, we saw 2 distinct sides of Caleb; the one that gave off some creepy unsettling vibes as the lvelorn puppydog set on Amber, and the one that we saw after her departure from the game. This last one seems more in kkeping with the Caleb we saw in this season, but I can't help but think that the producers were probably hoping for the one that creeped Amber out when they were doing the casting. Anyhow, he genuinely got a bit of a heroes edit, and although he is obviously doing well and survived, but it goes to show the engths that he would go to when doing 'beast mode cowboy'.

Am sure other players, especially when they knew they were only doing all this for some salt and pepper probabaly thought, is this worth the effort? In a word, no. But some competitiors just can't think that way. They have to go all out. Like what Brian described about Stephenie in that link above, and just like Caleb here.

Calbe won the battle and ultimately lost the war because of it. But given the titlecard in mid-ep (something unprecedented, not even last year when Terry went home), as well as yhe comment during final words, that Alecia didnt get to give, seems pretty indicative that Beast Mode Cowboy almost certainly will be back on Survivor.

The Tai edit continues to remind of the one Yau-Man got in Fiji, where Probst is angling every question his way for impromptu sound bytes. There are obviously other examples of this, but Yau is the most immediate coming to mind, given just rewatched Fiji as inspired byt the most recent series of Historians podcasts, lol.

But putting all that to the side.

Have bit my lip for the most part these past few weeks, in order to give the benefit of the doubt based on the number of Alecia fans here and elsewhere, to try and percieve what it was that they admired so much about her. But it completely aludes me. Really cannot work out why there seems to be such a strong core of support for her.

The gameplay was atrocious, the social play was poor, the self awareness non-existant. Over the course of the 4 episodes that she has been in it was a curious edit, one largely omitting how she was so annoying to Scot & Jason (in particular), yet highlighting her perseverence in starting the fire. Done obviously with the desire to skew public opinion. Then not only in confessional but openly admitting that she was intending to flip come a swap. TBH, I do get the feeling that Brawn may not have tried super dooper hard as they may have at the challenge (esp the guys) after that, in order to vote her out, as they had the numbers, the HII and with her openly declaring her intention to flip not only made her nothing but an expendible liability.

Ok, so I can see how the others saw the benefit of keeping an easy boot around the first time that this tribe went to TC, and Jenny pretty much single-handedly blew up her own game the next time, but there was no getting out of it this time.

But I digress...

So why did we get to see such a curious edit? At TC Probst said it himself, he was wanting to root for her, and with the level of influence that Probst has over the show then there is that spin on the edit of what we saw from her.

Does Alecia deserve the amount of support or hate? No, to both of these. So, I really don't get why so many are so empassioned by her, because, in the grand scheme of things, she is just kinda meh. Am sure had the events been different and Brawn had of gone through the first few challenges largely undefeated, then others in this game would easily have been given that amount of screen time. But clearly given what the editors felt best added to the story of the season, especially with Brawn going to TC so often was someone to root for; an underdog. And thats how she was presented. Which again comes back to what Probst was saying at TC. The fact that this particular Probst comment was deemed worthy of inclusion in the episode cannot understate the intention of having given Alecia such a prominant edit - good, bad or indifferent.

There has been comparisons made between J'Tia, Shirin, Abi etc. A case can be made for each, but why give this girl, and these others such prominant edits? Shirin was not a particularly good player the first, and only recency bias explains why she got a second chance. Abi the same even though over her 2 seasons her ability to really get under people's skins . J'Tia comparisons are probabaly the most accurate in terms of recency bias, as there are so many reasons these 2 are cut from the same clth, so to speak.

But there are a core that like the law of uinintended consequences. Put a trainwreck of a person in the game and see what chaos they can cause. Some people fixate on this and call it entertainment, and it can be. It can be very entertaining. Sugar in Gabon was entertaining. For better or worse, Dreamz in Fiji caused situations that led to entertaining outcomes and controversy. Hell, even Lil in PI had elements of this latter course, even though she was far from being entertaining.

Does Alecia deserve such a prominant edit? Participation on 1 small tribe for 4 episodes, erven on such a trainwreck crew as this Brawn incarnation would suggest no.

A real benchmark for a positive pre-merge edit was set wayyyy back in 2001. Compare Alecia with, say Gina from Marquesas. Gina was a pre-merge boot that had an incredibly positive and prominant edit, showed great spirit, had the ability to be socially adaptable, had perseverence and never gave up either. All of this lead the the sense there was a genuine sadness when she was voted out of the game.

How many of these boxes did Alecia tick? One. Maybe.

But what was it that people admire so about Alecia? The perseverence to not give up and that is about it. On every other level Alecia was a fail.

Way to celebrate true mediocrity. So, yay Alecia, I guess? :rolleyes:
https://45.media.tumblr.com/ac20ce695b02615fe54f891b549cd752/tumblr_o2qsqmesQr1ugl21co1_540.gif

[iRyan]

Alecia was at a major disadvantage to begin with being placed on a tribe where she stood out for all the wrong reasons and was automatically the most dispensable. Yet she survived 2/3 tribal councils. She was had a nice underdog story, even if it was short-lived. I think she had a lot of potential to excel in a tribe swap/merge situation had she been able to make it.

Debbie's combination of personality + strategic mindset make her the perfect contestant for Survivor. She's just great.

They should bring back Caleb and Alecia next season for a second chance~

[LukeB]

Is this on 12am?

[EspeonBB]

The quality will decline without Alecia's star power

[Headie]

The quality will decline without Alecia's star power

Come thru Tai!

[Dominic]

Praying for Debbie and Tai F2

[Dominic]

Could this season have a F2? They have 10 eps left and only 13 people. There will be five people left in episode 13 if no one else is medevac'd or quits. 13 is usually the number of people left in the final. but then there is ep 14

[reece(:]

Praying that Jason and Scot are swap****ed

[reece(:]

The FIRST evacuation :worry:

[reece(:]

Pray 4 Joe

[EspeonBB]

Wait has it started

[reece(:]

Ew if Neal gets it

[Calderyon]

Gah. Neal got it.

[EspeonBB]

Oop Neal got the idol

[EspeonBB]

Why couldn't Alecia get the idol instead :oh:

[Calderyon]

Neal is going align with Kyle. Bank on it.

[reece(:]

Pray the Beauty Gals aren't swap ****ed!

[EspeonBB]

How are they going to swap with 13 people

[Calderyon]

Why couldn't Alecia get the idol instead :oh:

Cause she had Scot and Kyle in her tribe, who would have never let that happen.

[reece(:]

How are they going to swap with 13 people
Anna to get immunity?

[reece(:]

Cause she had Scot and Kyle in her tribe, who would have never let that happen.
They would of killed ha before letting ha get it

[reece(:]

Alecia NEEDS justice!

[Calderyon]

How are they going to swap with 13 people

6 and 6 i guess.

They could send the one who is left behind to Exile Island. If they had one.

Probably 7 vs 6. Winning tribe gets the extra member.

[Calderyon]

I was kind of right.

[EspeonBB]

6 and 6 i guess.

They could send the one who is left behind to Exile Island. If they had one.

Probably 7 vs 6. Winning tribe gets the extra member.

They should've just swapped after Caleb was medevaced

[reece(:]

Julia's breakout!

[EspeonBB]

Julia's winner edit to begin?

[reece(:]

The beauty girls split up :(

[EspeonBB]

Pray for Debbie on the blue tribe

[reece(:]

Get Scot out!

[EspeonBB]

Scot needs to shut up about the NBA

[reece(:]

PRAYS 4 Anna and Tai

[EspeonBB]

If a beauty on yellow has to go I'd rather it would be Anna (sorry Reece)

Scot leaving would be the best though :oh:

[reece(:]

Debbie making Cydney tolerable!

[Calderyon]

Debbie siding with Brawn. Burn her.

[EspeonBB]

I'm here for the Debbie/Cydney alliance as long as they leave Jason out

[reece(:]

Debbie being a feminist warrior <3

[reece(:]

Welp all the beauties being targets

[Calderyon]

^ But she already said that she wants to work with the Brawn.

[reece(:]

NOT a Cyanide bond

[Calderyon]

Can´t wait for Debbie to leave. Sick of her voice.

Kyle and Scot should leave first though.

[EspeonBB]

Anna's confessional pose :joker:

[reece(:]

mess at the To Tang cinematics

[Calderyon]

Blue tribe is going to lose tonight.

[EspeonBB]

Bye @ that tragic alliance

[reece(:]

Blue tribe is going to lose tonight.
Here for it and Neal going with idol in pocket

[EspeonBB]

As long as Debbie is safe on blue idc who goes

I like everyone on the other tribe apart from Scot

[reece(:]

If only Tai and Anna were aligned, he used the idol accordingly and Julia joined them to form a majority </3

[reece(:]

mess @ Aubry not even helping

[reece(:]

NOT Gondol :(

Anna is a gonner lmao.

[reece(:]

They split the votes, Tai plays idol and Anna goes?

[EspeonBB]

Please unite and eliminate Scot





:worry:

[Calderyon]

Well, i guess not then. I was wrong.

Between Tai and Anna tonight then. Most likely Anna, since she has been invisible for a few episodes.

[EspeonBB]

If it's between Tai and Anna I'd rather Anna go

But Alecia needs justice #getscotout

[reece(:]

Please unite and eliminate Scot





:worry:
Or Peter!

[EspeonBB]

Or Peter!

I use Obama's messiness idk :worry:

[reece(:]

The snake to bite Scot?

[Calderyon]

They are not going to vote out Scot, since then it would be 3 beauties against 3 brains.

[EspeonBB]

They are not going to vote out Scot, since then it would be 3 beauties against 3 brains.

Yeah I get why they're not voting him out

But I hate Scot and want to see him go :oh:

[Black Dagger]

Oh I didn't know it was on now :mad:

I put the stream on for Big Brother and noticed this.

[Calderyon]

I want him gone too. Sadly it´s not going to happen.

[reece(:]

Yas Tai blindside Peter!

[reece(:]

messy tai <333

[reece(:]

Messy Anna blindside confessionals

[Black Dagger]

YES TAI.

Come on.

[Calderyon]

Scot might ruin this.

[reece(:]

EW Scot

[EspeonBB]

Scot is tragic

[Black Dagger]

**** off Scot.

****.

[reece(:]

Anna is for sure going

[reece(:]

Early tribal so possibly a tie too :worry:

[Jack_]

Tai bae can't you blindside Scot

[EspeonBB]

I'm sensing a messy tribal

[EspeonBB]

Poor Anna/Tai being voted off at their first tribal

An RC tea

[reece(:]

Beauties don't deserve this!

[reece(:]

Messy Joe

[reece(:]

Messy Peter's delusions

[EspeonBB]

Peter nnn

[Calderyon]

How stupid is Peter?

Good lord.

[EspeonBB]

I use Peter's messiness

I'll miss him if he goes

[Black Dagger]

IDIOT. No.

[reece(:]

ROBBED Anna </3

[Calderyon]

Bye Anna. Kind of sad, but at least Tai is still in the game.

[LukeB]

Anna </3

[EspeonBB]

Welp poor Anna

[reece(:]

Boot order this season is tragic </3

[EspeonBB]

I think I prefer everyone on the tribe apart from Scot over her so I'm not too pressed

[reece(:]

4 women voted in a row </3

[reece(:]

Joe being trained to deal with Peter

here for it next ep <3

[EspeonBB]

Yeah some men (Jason and Scot especially) need to start dropping soon

[EspeonBB]

Nnn Debbie flirting with Nick

[Dominic]

Ugh Anna going </333
Lowkey use Peter bc he is messy but he should have went.

[Mokka]

I'm here for the Debbie/Cydney alliance as long as they leave Jason out

Debbie being a feminist warrior <3

Favourite thing of the night...a Debbie Cydney alliance...

:fc: it sticks

Anna gone...not too sad about it since tonight was the first time I heard her name :shrug:

Nnn Debbie flirting with Nick

"Nick looks like a Greek God"... :laugh2:

What exactly is Debbie looking at?!

[rk3388]

Is anyone else actually liking Scot a bit more without Jason ? Could Jason be the poison? Also him an Tai would be a great duo because no one would suspect it and it was so funny seeing the contrast between 6'11 Scot and little Tai :joker:

[AarynGriesfan]

Ugg this episode wasn't good for my favorites. Anna being gone seems to make it hard for any beauty to win now. I have a feeling that poor Tai is going to get tricked into giving Jason a super idol and he's going to dominate the game and be the most unlikable winner ever.

[Dominic]

I am here for the Deb/Cyd alliance as long as no Jason is involved

[Headie]

Oh so now y'all have stopped hating on Cydney
http://i.imgur.com/RTpTpWw.gif