Big Brother 17 - Episode Discussion Thread [Episode 40 - FINALE - Thurs @ 2:30am BST]

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'll assume that Austin pointed to Vanessa because he didn't want to have to objected himself to this ****

[JerseyWins]

Lol Liz looks a little more like Julia with that look for some reason.

I also think they both pull off their new look well.

[JerseyWins]

:laugh3: at that Judas DR

[JerseyWins]

Omg that Johnny Mac DR :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: I'm done

[LemonJam]

I usually get bored of BB around final 5 but Vanessa's really saving it for me :love:

[JerseyWins]

Probably the best part of the episode

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:joker:

[Raph]

I usually get bored of BB around final 5 but Vanessa's really saving it for me :love:

I'm a week behind so can't say I fully agree, but at the final 6 point, Vanessa is the most entertaining one for me too. Ah, I wish for the day that we get 16 players all like Vanessa and no Meg like characters!

[Anaesthesia]

Austin's definitely the best player this season. If he stays this week he without a doubt deserves to win the game. It would maybe be Vanessa if she wasn't always so paranoid and emotional (because of that she also makes herself an obvious big target for little to no reason).

I'd tend to agree with that. It's between the two of them IMO, but he's just been a little smarter and kept his cards closer.

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Julie you're not allowed to be here right now" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so funny J**** :rolleyes:

[Macie Lightfoot]

SURPRISE and he wants to throw another comp holy **** how useless

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa's really getting the Dan BB14 edit.

And yup it's the annual "let's promote the new CBS show that won't last two seasons" comp

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa getting eliminated instantly :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

So the potential rigging against Liz was that some of her pieces weren't magnetized? l m f a o if this is true :joker: Grodner truly has no shame

[Macie Lightfoot]

alol this episode has been a disaster for Vanessa. So was the last one <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

another absurdly stupid speech by Austin

[JerseyWins]

The ending of Austin's speech was funny IMO. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

OMG the no shoes spoiler might be true :o

[Macie Lightfoot]

OMG THE NO SHOES SPOILER HE IS SO GROSS x

I did lol at him telling Van she can't win the jury votes though :joker:

[Calderyon]

So the spoilers were correct: Austin was the evicteé.

[Mitchell]

Ha bye

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa crying about this more than Liz :joker:

pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee Liz win HOH

[Calderyon]

Go with peace, Austin. You played a great game.

Oh, Vanny girl, you´ve screwed up so royally, i can´t help but laugh at you.

[Mitchell]

I am thinking Vanessa is ****ed without the veto

[Macie Lightfoot]

omg not this awful comp that everyone sucked at last year

[JerseyWins]

These bleeps.... :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh go Steve?

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh wow my guess was 2700 seconds if only I could be HOH :)

[Calderyon]

Great going, Steve.

Vanessa, please take a f-n seat, you d*mb, d*mb b****.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Am I wrong for thinking that J**** can finally go if a girl wins POV? :o

[JerseyWins]

I could see Johnny Mac easily going this week now with Steve as HOH. Damn I really wish he went the crazy route and kept Austin in the game.

Would Liz go to final 3 with Steve & Johnny? Doubt it even despite Vanessa voting Austin out.

[Calderyon]

Steve wants Vanessa out, i think. He wants to have that bragging right on the final 2.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Are we getting a Brenchel baby announcement? :o

[Mitchell]

**** off Brenchel, no one cares.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think plenty of people care actually

[JerseyWins]

Meeeeeeh....... way better than having Jeff & Jordan on the show though.

[JTM45]

Well it was a long time coming but we finally got an eviction that wasn't set in stone for days in advance and with a 'shock' (to Austwat at least!) result!!!! Finally a bit of excitement! As JohnnyMac said following his eviction vote "it's time for some blood" (or words to that effect).
I can't stand Vanessa and i really hope Steve's got the sense and balls to target her tommorrow but i still thought it was a really poor and immature way for Austin to react to her evicting him tonight!!!
It was done! There was nothing he could do about it so he should have taken it like the man he pretends to be instead of like a 4 year-old having a tantrum. What an absolute asshat!!!

I'm just crossing everything i can now that we'll get to see Vanessa's miserable Squidward mush looking extra miserable when she's evicted tomorrow night! That would be perfect. Surely it will occur to Steve that whoever evicts Vanessa will win huge favor with pretty much all of the Jury members ? But then Steve, for all of his academic intelligence, doesn't seem to have much common sense so it won't surprise me massively if Vanessa manages to dupe him into not nominating her.

Still can't get over how deluded Austwat was! "I almost won!".............yeah right matey!:laugh:

[Jack_]

Thank God Austin's gone, I'm happy with whoever wins now (although I'd prefer it to be John)

I too think John is evicted if he doesn't win Veto

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well it was a long time coming but we finally got an eviction that wasn't set in stone for days in advance and with a 'shock' (to Austwat at least!) result!!!! Finally a bit of excitement! As JohnnyMac said following his eviction vote "it's time for some blood" (or words to that effect).
I can't stand Vanessa and i really hope Steve's got the sense and balls to target her tommorrow but i still thought it was a really poor and immature way for Austin to react to her evicting him tonight!!!
It was done! There was nothing he could do about it so he should have taken it like the man he pretends to be instead of like a 4 year-old having a tantrum. What an absolute asshat!!!

I'm just crossing everything i can now that we'll get to see Vanessa's miserable Squidward mush looking extra miserable when she's evicted tomorrow night! That would be perfect. Surely it will occur to Steve that whoever evicts Vanessa will win huge favor with pretty much all of the Jury members ? But then Steve, for all of his academic intelligence, doesn't seem to have much common sense so it won't surprise me massively if Vanessa manages to dupe him into not nominating her.

Still can't get over how deluded Austwat was! "I almost won!".............yeah right matey!:laugh:

Noms don't really matter at F4 though. Steve's HOH doesn't really grant him any power either, it's just fancy immunity. POV has all the power this week since they get to evict someone (or in Steve's case, decide who votes.) I don't disagree that Steve could get some credit for taking Vanessa out (or being HOH while she was evicted in this case) but I don't know if it'll be enough for him. It's weird because I think a lot of people are under the belief that he's Ian 2.0 but he doesn't really stand a good shot in a jury vote against anyone.

[Macie Lightfoot]

If there was any doubt left as to whether Vanessa has a chance,

“Vanessa completely betrayed me,” says Austin. “I knew it was a possibility because it’s Big Brother, but her whole game was about playing with integrity and not betraying me since we made a final two deal on the second day. She swore to me on her family, her girlfriend, the LGBT community and the Bible and she’ll have to deal with those consequences of making those pledges and going back on it."

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/15/big-brother-17-austin-matelston-interview

[Headie]

lol of course Austin will be a bitter juror.

Vanessa has played the best game by far

[LemonJam]

Austin's such a loser I was sooooooo happy to see him get blindsided and walking out the door without any shoes on :joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[goldensunlight]

I'd be a bitter juror too if Vanessa had made those deals to me and never kept her word. Breaking her word is something she has a habit of doing and it will cost her.

[JTM45]

I'm no fan of Vanessa's (understatement!) so i'm not defending her but Austwat also had multiple 'set-in-stone' deals with other people and i don't doubt for a second that he would have done exactly the same to Vanessa as she did to him if he'd gotten the chance first!

He just confirmed last night just how deluded he's been and that BS jibe at Steve pre-eviction vote when he said he was Judas (yawn, yawn , snooooooze Austin!) and Steve was "the Boy". Patronising biblical bollocks from man who thought he was a major strategist who practically was counting his 500k already!

So glad he's gone!:dance:

[Ramsay]

Aw man Austin, get over it. she would be incredibly stupid not to take out the showmance at this stage.

[Braden]

Vanessa to win :love: :love: :love:

[Natalie.]

Happy to see Austin go

[AarynGriesfan]

Austin's eviction was one of the best blindsides we have seen in a long time. I was so happy to see him go and to go without his shoes is even more priceless. I loved every minute of that episode last night.

[JTM45]

Austin's eviction was one of the best blindsides we have seen in a long time. I was so happy to see him go and to go without his shoes is even more priceless. I loved every minute of that episode last night.

Probably the best episode of the entire Season!!!! (it doesn't have a lot of competition though!)
It was such a clear demonstration of why blinsides should be pulled off whenever and as often as possible.

I haven't liked Austwat from day 1 but i thought he'd accept his fate in a more mature manner!:bawling:
From what he said it appears he was the only one who was believing his own obnoxiously delusional hype.
I don't think he'd have been anywhere near that pissed if Liz had been evicted in his place.:shrug:

Idiots both!!!!!:sleep:

Just sad that we couldn't have had that mentalist Vanessa evicted tonight! That would have been joyous!!!!:cheer2:

[JTM45]

There's a new Episode on tonight, Wedneday the 16th (or actually the early hours of Thursday the 18th here in the UK) ......right ? (i think it's on at 1am GMT)

I'm just checking because it says Thursday in the thread title.

[JerseyWins]

The main reason I don't think Vanessa should win is I expect her to not actually own up to the way she played. I really think that she thinks she's playing with integrity and stuff and will say that she only ever broke her word to Austin or something like that.

If she completely owns up to her game then she pretty much deserves the win outside of a bitter jury. Although she also played a bit too paranoid and emotional to be considered a mastermind but it was still a good game nonetheless.

[Jack_]

There's a new Episode on tonight, Wedneday the 16th (or actually the early hours of Thursday the 18th here in the UK) ......right ? (i think it's on at 1am GMT)

I'm just checking because it says Thursday in the thread title.

Correct, but I always put the time in the title as the UK broadcast time, and it's always an hour or two into the next day, so Sunday becomes Monday, Wednesday becomes Thursday and Thursday becomes Friday.

I double checked the time though and you're correct, 8/7c so it's 1am tonight. I shall edit (I have been slack on the title this year :laugh:)

[JerseyWins]

Johnny Mac :joker: Did he just tell Steve to go throw up?

Also yesssssss @ Liz this episode

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa not realizing that if she wins veto she HAS to show that she was lying to one of them... :joker:

Yet another reason for someone to be bitter towards her in jury.

I think she means it with taking Liz cause she actually swore on Mel to her. Plus it just makes more sense I guess.

[Calderyon]

Great jury control Vanessa. Promise a final two to both them and piss yet another jury member.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Oh my GOD WHY ON EARTH ARE THEY BRINGING BACK CALEB??????????

Seriously though, it's actually offensive to me that they keep shoving BB16 down our throats like it was actually a good season. It ****ing sucked and was the worst ever (I alternate between 14 and 16 but at least everyone from 14 properly ****ed off) and I really don't get how it is somehow a franchise ideal. We saw Derrick and Cody and they both ****ing suck, we saw Frankie and oh my GOD he is legitimately a contender for worst ever (so is Derrick but w/e), and now we're seeing Caleb and he sucks so badly too.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Austin fighting the good fight <333333 I seriously don't get the issues with bitter juries, they are SO much more entertaining and petty and vengeful <3

[Macie Lightfoot]

@Rachel what game has J**** played hun xx

[Calderyon]

Vanessa not realizing that if she wins veto she HAS to show that she was lying to one of them... :joker:

Yet another reason for someone to be bitter towards her in jury.

I think she means it with taking Liz cause she actually swore on Mel to her. Plus it just makes more sense I guess.

If she takes Liz out, i can her already see being down 0-4 in terms votes.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Brenchel baby :o

[JerseyWins]

Can't even imagine what that kid is going to be like... :joker:

Congrats to them :clap1:

[Jack_]

Not Austin being bitter

This endgame is one of the best I can remember tho, I'd say Vanessa has the game wrapped up but then really if this jury does end up being bitter does she? And the other three all stand an equal chance of winning to be honest, should be an interesting week!

[JerseyWins]

Beast Mooooooooode

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm A-OK with a potential bitter jury because Vanessa really did a terrible job of preventing it alol her jury management was really horrible and like I said, she'd be TOAST in a more natural jury setting like Survivor. But of course we'll have Dr. Will come and encourage everyone to not be bitter (:rolleyes: so boring) and just champion for who Grodner wants.

also they really shouldn't have brought Caleb back considering he's borderline illiterate...

[Macie Lightfoot]

This is kind of a lame comp to have at F4 :\

[Calderyon]

In normal conditions i would be against a bitter jury, but on Vanessa´s case, i approve it.

[Macie Lightfoot]

and of COURSE they need to reference the Frankie cameo yet again :rolleyes: **** this show

[Calderyon]

Why does the production like BB16 so much? It´s puzzling. It´s almost like a windup towards the viewers.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I just don't see the issue with bitter juries ever really. It's not inherently unfair, there aren't any rules as to how jurors should vote. If they don't vote for you, that means YOU did something wrong. If you don't manage the jury that you pretty much handpicked and created singlehandedly, that's nobody's fault but your own. It's one thing to get to the end, but it's another thing to get people to vote for you in the end. If you failed at that part you went wrong somewhere :shrug:

and like I said earlier, bitter juries are just more realistic and entertaining? Bring me the raw feelings and the emotions, it's not a bad thing to be upset about how things went down. Sure Austin's definitely a twat, but Vanessa shouting out the door "IF ONLY JOHNNY MAC DIDN'T WIN POV D: D: D:" gives me a feeling that she's not going to own up to any of her **** and that's a sure way to piss people off.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Come on Vanessa PLEASE evict J**** twice and for all. Praying for the fingerbang.gif goddess Liz <3333

[Calderyon]

I miss the old kind of jury questing with the final 2 with all of the jury members getting a say. This final 3 system and only the decided questions asked is absolutely terrible.

[Macie Lightfoot]

John seems like he knows he's going? Don't get my hopes up please!

[Macie Lightfoot]

<33333333333333333333333

[JerseyWins]

Johnny Mac not againnnnnnnnn :( :( :( :( :(

[Calderyon]

Well this means that John won fan favorite.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Again, if there was any question as to whether Vanessa will own up to her game

"I'm sorry, but if you're willing to go back on an alliance you have had all summer long, that just means that I can't trust you" ---Vanessa Rousso, twenty-four hours after going back on an alliance she had all summer.

[JerseyWins]

Again, if there was any question as to whether Vanessa will own up to her game

"I'm sorry, but if you're willing to go back on an alliance you have had all summer long, that just means that I can't trust you" ---Vanessa Rousso, twenty-four hours after going back on an alliance she had all summer.
:laugh3:

[Calderyon]

It´s unbelievable.

I dislike her now almost as much as i disliked Maggie. But at least Maggie hold her own and admitted doing things and made no apologies.

[Jack_]

John being the most successful returning juror ever :clap1:

It's rare (especially on BBUS) that I like the whole F4 and now F3 so I really don't mind who wins

[Jack_]

Maggie was a bore tho, at least Vanessa has been a total mess and is part of the reason why this season has been so good. She's exhausting but still a good character

[Macie Lightfoot]

DID SOMEONE MENTION MAGGIE http://i.imgur.com/Pzwoqbf.png

The Friendship <3333333333

[JerseyWins]

DID SOMEONE MENTION MAGGIE http://i.imgur.com/Pzwoqbf.png

The Friendship <3333333333
https://33.media.tumblr.com/89f1932e61f53ece74c5960b0a786516/tumblr_nquknxRp0Q1uyb7hqo5_500.gif

[JerseyWins]

I would love to see Vanessa get cut in 3rd mainly because I feel like she thinks she's getting to final 2 no matter what. However, it's probably pretty unlikely, and she'll most likely win the F3 HOH anyway...

So I'm mainly hoping for her to get roasted in the final 2 by a bitter jury plz.

[Jack_]

https://40.media.tumblr.com/9742adc421ea694f25bd9fe4a15eb2e5/tumblr_mquo40Rn4F1s5cb4xo1_500.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Howie_Gordon.jpg/600px-Howie_Gordon.jpg

:cheer2: :joker:

[LukeB]

Howie :love:

[Calderyon]

I would love to see Vanessa get cut in 3rd mainly because I feel like she thinks she's getting to final 2 no matter what. However, it's probably pretty unlikely, and she'll most likely win the F3 HOH anyway...

So I'm mainly hoping for her to get roasted in the final 2 by a bitter jury plz.

This is what i hope will happen, if she doesn´t get evicted at final 3.

[Macie Lightfoot]

ew @ a THIRTY-FOUR y/o man playing with lightsabers and generally acting like a nineteen y/o frat douche :rolleyes: The Sovs are a really troubling alliance and I can't wait for my BB6 rewatch so I can highlight their bullying ways :)

and "Can you compete without your fingers" is still one of the most succinct takedowns ever so gj April <333333

[Jack_]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/4a1033e67e0047223c101b9d828679bd/tumblr_inline_mleziupVSY1qz4rgp.png

A truly great bunch of people that were taken into America's hearts <33333333

[LukeB]

Amercia's favourite alliance :clap1:

[Wizard.]

I really hope Liz wins now, or Vanessa would be okay. Either of those two.

[JerseyWins]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/4a1033e67e0047223c101b9d828679bd/tumblr_inline_mleziupVSY1qz4rgp.png

A truly great bunch of people that were taken into America's hearts <33333333
Janelle, Howie, Kaysar :worship:

[LukeB]

here for Brenchel's baby tho

[Jack_]

Janelle, Howie, Kaysar :worship:

+ James :clap1:

S6 alliance in BB7 > Sovs

Absolute perfection in alliance members

[reece(:]

Two of the best Sovs (Rachel/Sarah) were snubbed for awful Howie and overrated Kaysar in All-Stars.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sarah was the only one who had a pure heart, and of course she's the one we're supposed to care about the least :rolleyes: like, we're supposed to think Cappy was a Bad Person because he controlled how much ice cream people ate but we're supposed to praise the Sovs for sexually harassing women and calling people dirty Mexicans and whatnot. How typical.

[AarynGriesfan]

Between being forced to hear about the Brenchel baby and then being forced to listen to Beastmode cowboy host a comp made this episode easily one of the worst. Oh and Johnny Mac getting evicted again sucked too:(

[brisbanebroncos]

Vanessa dominating like usual. She decides who goes home pretty much every week, she just did it officially 2 episodes in a row. I bow down to one of the top 10 greatest players of all time. She's amazing. Go Vanessa.

I loved Season 16. However, the choices made for returning houseguests have been horrible. Frankie and Caleb? Yet not one mention of any of the top 3 for americas vote last year (Donny, Nicole, Zach). I remember looking at posts Big Brother would put on FB about the upcoming season and the comments would be nothing but people hoping they wouldn't have to see Frankie again. Well too bad, I guess.

[Braden]

If $500,000 was on the line & some oaf was taking the piss pretending to be a kung fu artist, it would legit take all of my power not to go over and punch him in the face.

[LemonJam]

Again, if there was any question as to whether Vanessa will own up to her game

"I'm sorry, but if you're willing to go back on an alliance you have had all summer long, that just means that I can't trust you" ---Vanessa Rousso, twenty-four hours after going back on an alliance she had all summer.

:joker: oh my God she's brilliant.

[LemonJam]

I loved Season 16. However, the choices made for returning houseguests have been horrible. Frankie and Caleb? Yet not one mention of any of the top 3 for americas vote last year (Donny, Nicole, Zach). I remember looking at posts Big Brother would put on FB about the upcoming season and the comments would be nothing but people hoping they wouldn't have to see Frankie again. Well too bad, I guess.

Yeah it's really weird. It just goes to show that BBUS doesn't really listen to its audience. Let's not forget the Derrick/Cody segment as well, another two HGs that casuals didn't seem to have any strong opinion on. They just kinda push whoever their favourites are (like why did we have so many Steve segments this year? Nobody cared about Steve.)

[Mitchell]

Ivette > Maggie

(Her diary room entries were fab)

[Nick.]

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In case you needed another reason to find him pathetic.

[Jack_]

looooooool damn why couldn't it have happened on a live ep I'd have LOVED the scrambling from production/Julie :joker:

[Ramsay]

644581170324353027

In case you needed another reason to find him pathetic.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Calderyon]

Legendary more like.

(Well, somewhat...)

[JTM45]

From the bit we saw of the Austin eviction it sounded like he was trying to get her to change her mind...............what an utter moron!!!!

It was very telling when they showed that clip of him arriving at the Jury house and went into instant Vanessa slating mode. When Shelli said that they were all there and she was still in the house so you had to give her that he really didn't like it!

Yep, definitely one of the worst losers ever! No wonder he had to choose a pretending sport as a career. :)

[JerseyWins]

Austin really turned up the entertainment at the end of this season. :laugh3:

[Ross.]

looooooool damn why couldn't it have happened on a live ep I'd have LOVED the scrambling from production/Julie :joker:

Omg this would have been AMAZING :joker::joker::joker:

[Nick.]

Can't see Austin ending up on The Bold & Beautiful now. (Not that he stood much chance)

[Roy Mars III]

This has been one of the worst seasons of Big Brother ever. Esp. after BB16 was so good.

[Macie Lightfoot]

what on EARTH ^

[Roy Mars III]

Derrick brought about a Big Brother Renaissance that was hurt by Brother Brother 17

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh right I forgot about that whole shtick of yours w/e

[Ramsay]

This has been one of the worst seasons of Big Brother ever. Esp. after BB16 was so good.

Roy :lovedup:

[AarynGriesfan]

Derrick brought about a Big Brother Renaissance that was hurt by Brother Brother 17

I want what this guy is taking.

[Macie Lightfoot]

I really wish they just did the finale tonight tbh, the recrap is so pointless and the feeds are just so dead having 3 people in there for a week with nothing to do, clearly waiting for this to finally end.

[Calderyon]

I just wish they went back to final 2 on the finale night, instead of final 3.

The Sunday episode could be the Final 2 Jury questioning special, instead of Season´s best bits special episode.

[LemonJam]

This has been one of the worst seasons of Big Brother ever. Esp. after BB16 was so good.

good to have you back but NO ROY.

[JTM45]

This has been one of the worst seasons of Big Brother ever. Esp. after BB16 was so good.

I can't agree about BB16 being "so good" (pfft!!!:laugh:) but i definitely concur that this Season has been one of the very worst BB's EVER to pollute our screens!
The fact that the 'highlight' of the Season was watching Austwat (the World's biggest baby!) having a big baby style tantrum because he got outsmarted by a deadringer for Squidward really says a lot about the rest of the Season!
Truly, truly dreadful stuff!!!! :facepalm:

[Macie Lightfoot]

BB delayed until 8:27 at least in the NY area, I don't know about everywhere else. It's just the recrap though so I doubt anybody's dying to watch.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Recrap time

[Macie Lightfoot]

Montage of Vanessa fights :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

:rolleyes: this John and Steve segment

LMFAO and then Steve asks if he's made out with a guy :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky's train story <333333

[Macie Lightfoot]

omg these DRs :joker: there are SO much better than the **** we actually see on the ****ing show where they're reading off of cuecards and reexplaining the competition rules. omfg that made me so infuriated like WHY don't they show natural DRs anymore?!?!?!

Audrey's and Vanessa's were gr8 :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

The only Steve clip was the nerdmance between him and J****? Production really is putting all their eggs in Vanessa's basket.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

i got sick of the recaps so i turned it off, did they actual do any part of the 1st HOH in the episode?

[JerseyWins]

Almost skipped this episode cause they've been boring in recent seasons but glad I watched it... pretty good recap. :joker: (makes sense since it was a good season)

[JerseyWins]

i got sick of the recaps so i turned it off, did they actual do any part of the 1st HOH in the episode?
They basically just showed a preview of it.

[JerseyWins]

I still love how Da'Vonne brought the whole alliance into the have-not room for the fight with Audrey. :joker: Huge giveaway on who's in an alliance together.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

They basically just showed a preview of it.

oh ok thanks

[Phillip!]

Vanessa needs to win, so this can finally be over. Although it hasn't been that bad.

[Ross.]

Is Sunday/Monday's episode worth watching?

[Natalie.]

I don't think so

[EspeonBB]

Can't wait for Vanessa to win <333333

[Macie Lightfoot]

Is Sunday/Monday's episode worth watching?

There's a rly good segment with real, unscripted DRs towards the end of it so I'd say at least watch that part!

[LukeB]

i would find it hilarious if Steve wins

[Mitchell]

2:30? Ugh

[Calderyon]

I would be overjoyed if anyone else than Vanessa wins, but if she does, i guess that´s one of those things that you just have to accept.

Disappointing, but forgettable.

She does deserve it, but hope she doesn´t. I want to see her being gutted just for one time.

[Vanessa]

Rylan seems quite subdued tonight. I hope he's ok. I suppose it's understandable, after last night.

[Ramsay]

Rylan seems quite subdued tonight. I hope he's ok. I suppose it's understandable, after last night.

:joker::joker: Wrong BB section V!

[Vanessa]

Ooops, sorry! :joker::joker::joker: *runs off*

[Joe.]

2:30 is so late, may have to wait until tomorrow! VANESSA TO WIN THOUGH!

Wouldn't mind Liz.

If Steve wins though I'll be physically sick! Anyone who cried over game moves and dosen't appear until halfway through does not deserve the win WHATSOEVER,

[Macie Lightfoot]

VANESSA TO WIN THOUGH!

Anyone who cried over game moves... does not deserve the win WHATSOEVER,

:joker:

[Joe.]

:joker:

Steve though? Tbh everyone has cried over game moves now or again? Steve was something different like OMG I CANT EVEN MAKE A GAME DECISION WITHOUT SOBBING. Seriously, it dosen't take a genious to notice how bad Steve's been!

[LemonJam]

Is Survivor on first @ 1 BST?

[Calderyon]

No. At 12:30 AM.

[LemonJam]

oH **** SON I NEED TO FIND A STREAM

thank you

[LemonJam]

oh it's at 1 :laugh:

[Calderyon]

So it seems. Last time i believe anyone here.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Steve though? Tbh everyone has cried over game moves now or again? Steve was something different like OMG I CANT EVEN MAKE A GAME DECISION WITHOUT SOBBING. Seriously, it dosen't take a genious to notice how bad Steve's been!

I just don't see how someone crying over the game disqualifies them from being a good player (NOT saying that Steve is a good player though) :shrug: and I think it's funny to be championing a Vanessa win when she's cried the most :joker:

[Calderyon]

Also nowwatchlive or bmx-tv.net should have the streams.

[Jack_]

Best night of the TV year, so excited! :D

[Ross.]

I'm so tired idk if I can make it to 2:30. :worry:

[JerseyWins]

Impatiently waiting for Steve to be the hero. :worry:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Prayer circle for Liz's victory

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[JerseyWins]

:joker: Quality recap

Didn't show enough of the beginning when the season was probably at its best but understandable.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Also, I doubt there's any legitimacy to this, but there are rumors that Steve will be coming out LIVE tonight so stay tuned

[EspeonBB]

I'm too tired to watch this now but go Vanessa

[Macie Lightfoot]

this comp is so cheesy I cannot with this show sometimes

[Macie Lightfoot]

Vanessa bullying Liz into submission :joker::joker::joker:

[Black Dagger]

I wish I watched more of this season tbh. I'm going to put the dedication into US or Canada next year.

[Macie Lightfoot]

ugh I peeped Cody behind Will :rolleyes: **** this show

[JerseyWins]

Vanessa is soo annoying.. Idk how I liked her at first.

[Jack_]

Also, I doubt there's any legitimacy to this, but there are rumors that Steve will be coming out LIVE tonight so stay tuned

I heard this recently that apparently he's infatuated with Johnny Mac :conf: he comes across as like the most asexual person ever wtf is this

[Macie Lightfoot]

oh Steve DEFINITELY pings my gaydar, not to mention that whenever he talks about previous lovers and he doesn't use gender-specific pronouns. He had some coded talks with Vanessa too when the feeds went down. There've been hints at it all summer on the feeds.

[JerseyWins]

I like this 2nd part HOH. I would love to compete in this.

[Black Dagger]

Yeah even from the little footage I've seen I assumed he liked pole.

[Macie Lightfoot]

The 3 person funale is such a mess omg. Like, there's just so much to show in such little time, it's absurd. They made the 5 minute endurance comp take 15 minutes when John came back, but then we get a 3+ hour endurance comp and they have to squeeze it into five minutes :rolleyes:

the whole finale week is such a mess, they really should just get rid of the recap episode and show the first part of the HOH comp.

[LemonJam]

God Austin is such a little bitch.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Becky rooting for Steve :joker: and Becky being offended at Vanessa swearing on the gay community <33333

seriously though, the roundtable is SO stupid. We get it, Grodner is still upset that Dan lost BB14. There's nothing wrong with bitter juries and nobody needs to be coached on how to vote :rolleyes:

[JerseyWins]

Lol @ Becky really liking Steve :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Wow, this same exact final part HOH setup again.

[Macie Lightfoot]

This is the third year in a row with the scales I'm pretty sure :joker:

[Jack_]

Good roundtable this year :clap1: and much better and more in depth than last year's

[Jack_]

The scales again?!

[Jack_]

why do I get the feeling Steve's gonna win this

[Macie Lightfoot]

omfg at option B :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

OMFG TYING IT UP :o

[Macie Lightfoot]

:joker: at the audience shock

[Macie Lightfoot]

OMFG STEVE WINS x

[LukeB]

Lmao

[JerseyWins]

Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve

[JerseyWins]

Omg here we go. :worry: This'll be good.

[Jack_]

Well that was certainly tense!

[Calderyon]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!!

Go Steve. :clap1:

Now please evict Vanessa.

[Macie Lightfoot]

*fingers crossed for a Lizbeth win pleaseeeeeeeeeeee*

[Jack_]

There's pluses and minuses to liking all the finalists, it's enjoyable not to have to root for anyone and being happy no matter who wins, but then I'm also going to be disappointed for the losers too :( especially likely with Vanessa here, how gutting to have played such a good game and then lose one comp and it's all over

I think a Steve/Liz F2 would be the closest vote of all the options though so it's probably best for drama

[Macie Lightfoot]

lmfaooooooooooooo Steve's getting ready to cut her

[Calderyon]

A Liz win would be satisfactory.

[Calderyon]

Thank you, Steve!!!

Finally. :spin:

[JerseyWins]

Yesssssssssssss thank you Steve!!!!!

Now I'd love to see Liz win. :joker: I'll be happy with any result now though. This is amazing. :clap1:

[LemonJam]

as much as I love Vanessa I'm glad this was the outcome. She doesn't need the money.

[JerseyWins]

This has Steve winning written all over it. BUT Meg is highly against Steve all season and is pro-Liz so I guess you never know. Vanessa will probably vote for Liz too especially based on that interview with Julie.

[Jack_]

The only thing we have been robbed of here is angry questioning, I don't think either Steve or Liz have done that much to piss any juror off

Hope it's a close vote for once

[LemonJam]

oh God Austins smugness is going to be unbearable isn't it?

[Macie Lightfoot]

as much as I love Vanessa I'm glad this was the outcome. She doesn't need the money.

I think she kinda does actually :joker: She had like 4 mil at one point but I'm pretty sure she blew it all.

I'm still not sure how to feel about this. I'll be fine with this if Liz wins. If Steve wins :rolleyes: no thx

[Calderyon]

It´s going to be close vote, but i think Steve has won it 6-3 or 5-4.

[reece(:]

hope Liz wins!!!!!! VILE If Steve wins he is one of my least faves of all time

[Black Dagger]

Go on Liz!!!

[Jack_]

Liz is the better houseguest, Steve the better player

[JerseyWins]

Lol Vanessa looks like she's gonna cry on the stage. :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

THREE questions each?!?!?! The Jury Questioning format really is in shambles.

[LemonJam]

so messy :joker:

[Macie Lightfoot]

okay Steve is coming across so ****ing indignant and is trying to take credit for things that he really shouldn't so I reallyyyyyyyyyyyy hope this turns people off and Liz wins <3

[LemonJam]

oh God Liz is so bad at this :joker:

[JerseyWins]

Steve looks so pissed off. :joker:

Liz had a really good answer to Julia's question I think but other than that it's the typical speech that the 2nd place finisher gives. :bored: It would be hilarious if she won anyway. :joker:

[Calderyon]

Man, Liz is not a great talker, is she.

[JerseyWins]

I really think Meg wants to vote for Liz though. Not sure about the others.

[Jack_]

Liz hasn't prepared for this at all

Also I swear they ruin the jury questioning more and more every year :umm2: BBCan have it right, go down the line and let each juror ask their own personal question. None of these agreed questions and bloody cue cards

[Macie Lightfoot]

The whole jury format is in shambles. The roundtable kills a lot of the suspense honestly, they get time to talk things out and think about it so then they already come into the finale knowing who they are going to vote for and it kinda renders the whole questioning process pointless. Survivor does it soooooooooo much better.

[Calderyon]

Based on that, surely Steve has won this.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Like, Steve keeps talking about how he made his own moves and he took Jackie out on his own but Vanessa planted that seed and was completely responsible. It's **** like this why he SHOULD lose but idk idk

[Macie Lightfoot]

I know Liz sucked at this but Steve definitely benefited from the "audio problems" and then getting to compare his speech to Liz's and bash each of her points.

[Calderyon]

Steve has won this, i can tell.

[JerseyWins]

I think Meg probably gave her vote to Steve based on what she said. :shrug:

Austin :joker:

[JerseyWins]

There's nooooo time for the pre-jury boots. They really are bad on time in these finales.

[JerseyWins]

I'd give Steve at least a 90% chance of winning this but I'm not completely ruling Liz out.

[Calderyon]

They´ll probably talk to like 3 of them and leave the others reeling.

[Calderyon]

I'd give Steve at least a 90% chance of winning this but I'm not completely ruling Liz out.

I´ll give Steve 85% chance of winning, since Liz has 2 sure votes and anything can happen with Meg and Johnny.

[JerseyWins]

Here for them only asking questions to Jace & Da'Vonne... I really don't care what any of the rest of them have to say tbh. :joker:

Pretty sure they'll talk to Audrey tho

[Jack_]

6-3, I reckon Vanessa went for Liz

Meg and Johnny are the only other swing votes I think, I was really surprised he criticised Steve's game

[Macie Lightfoot]

I think Liz definitely played better than Steve, and even though Steve definitely delivered his answers better, a lot of his answers weren't true? Like his "tiff" with Austin was completely fabricated and Vanessa totally planted the seed for him to get Jackie out in the Fast Forward.

[JerseyWins]

Da'Vonne :laugh3:

[Calderyon]

I´m surprised too that John is so mad at Steve. I don´t understand.

[JerseyWins]

Of course Jace still gets no TV time :joker:

[Calderyon]

I bet Clay, Jace and Jeff are p***d right now.

[Jack_]

Audrey <3

And Jason spilling the tea on Vanessa :clap1:

[Macie Lightfoot]

yayyyyy Vanessa

[Macie Lightfoot]

ugh congrats Steve :\

[Macie Lightfoot]

:rolleyes:

[Black Dagger]

Trash

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Yay :)

[Macie Lightfoot]

:joker: at Vanessa thinking that a bimbo recruit is the best representation of the season <333333

ugh so disappointed though. Hopefully nerdy awkward superfans are eliminated first from now on

[Calderyon]

Congrats Steve. :clap1:

Kind of wanted Liz to win, but you evicted Vanessa, so there you go. You deserved it.

[JerseyWins]

Congrats Steve! Liz would've been a better/funnier winner for this season but still really happy for Steve. :clap1:

[Jack_]

Steve :clap1:

this has been such a good season, I'm gonna miss it :( please can we not go backwards next year and PLEASE no Battle of the Block EVER again

...and bring back the ****ing wheel

[Macie Lightfoot]

YES YES YES JAMES BEATING J**** <333333333333333333333

lmfao @ Jason getting third :joker: I knew it was an outside possibility but wow

[LemonJam]

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS @ James beating Johnny Mac that's made this all worthwhile

[Calderyon]

Wow James got it. Congrats and great for him!!!

I bet John thought he had it locked.

Jason in top 3. Quite surprised tbh.

[Jack_]

Oh dear :umm2: well I like James but

Jason making top three makes up for it tho :clap1: deserving picks overall <3

[JerseyWins]

:facepalm: at James beating John for AFP

[Macie Lightfoot]

of course the top three were all men, of course :joker: eek @ Jason being in there though he really doesn't age well at all

[Jack_]

646877432281210881

:laugh2:

[JerseyWins]

Anyway pretty good finale episode (pretty rushed though, mainly good for the result). :clap1:

[Calderyon]

I had fears, but in the end it all went pretty much how i wanted (apart from Liz winning).

So i´m satisfied.

[Macie Lightfoot]

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[Pete.]

Why did they crown Ian again? Justice for Vanny!

[Pete.]

James <3

All male top 3? That's America!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa proven to be a bitter jury member

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Vanessa really thinks Liz whoring herself all summer is a good representation of Big Brother 17?

In other words she was bitter because Steve got her out.