Big Brother 17 Ratings Thread

[Cal.]

At least it hasn't gone below a million yet.

[Cal.]

I'm hoping that as long as it stays above a million they're not going to do anything too drastic like Armageddon, 4 in 4 out etc.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm hoping that as long as it stays above a million they're not going to do anything too drastic like Armageddon, 4 in 4 out etc.

This.

Also first weekend...

BB16:
Launch- 1.83m
Weds- 1.19m
Thurs- 1.20m
Friday- 1.35m
Saturday- 750k
Sunday- 1.13m

BB17:
Launch- 1.6m
Weds- 1.45m
Thursday- 1.2m
Friday- 1.05m
Saturday- 1.04m
Sunday- 1.06m [excl +1] looking at around 1.2m

So despite launching more than 200k lower, it has held up better especially considering it has The Euro's up against it (well since Friday). So far after the launch, only the Friday has been lower than BB16, Weds, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday all rated better.

The first BB16 Monday got 1.13m, so we'll see if it can surpass that, I personally think, yes

[Babayaro.]

Bye I totally forgot about Armageddon week. Jesus christ what a mess that was

[Cal.]

Armageddon was basically 4 in 4 out spread across a week instead of a night.

They got rid of 4 housemates (Marlon, Biannca, Danielle and Kimberly) and we got 3 newbies.

[*mazedsalv**]

So, 1.2m incl +1.

I was hoping for that 1.3m :( but it's still another episode up on the equivalent BB16 episode which got 1.13m.

[Cal.]

So this series is doing okay so far.

I wouldn't care if the quality was crap but if the quality is good I want ratings to match so they know what we want to see.

[TomC]

So BB16's average so far is 1.24 and BB17's is 1.256. So actually not much of a difference, but I'm really hoping that there is no desperate twist.

Did BB16 continue to fall for the first eighteen days?

[Cal.]

They only did the desperate twist last year because they were getting told off for figures below 1 million I think. I remember a post on DS claiming the mass eviction, newbies and an increase in live feed were coming because of the figures below 1 million and then 4 in 4 out happened and that's when Ben Frow finally said they weren't allowed live feed unless ratings were 5 million.

[*mazedsalv**]

So BB16's average so far is 1.24 and BB17's is 1.256. So actually not much of a difference, but I'm really hoping that there is no desperate twist.

Did BB16 continue to fall for the first eighteen days?

It did.

Here are the ratings from the first Monday onwards (leading to them panicking):

Monday- 1.13m
Tues- 1.08m
Weds- 1.17m
Thurs- 1.05m
Friday- 1.10m
Sat- 640k
Sun- 901k
Mon- 877k
Tues- 1.00m
Weds- 974k
Thurs- 1.09m
Friday- 1.10m (4IN4OUT)

[Cal.]

Adjoa's impact.

[TomC]

The first 18 days of BB16 were truly quite dull IMO it's no surprise ratings fell.

[BB-Germany]

Tbf the ratings are quite impressive with the football going on.

[*mazedsalv**]

Tbf the ratings are quite impressive with the football going on.

The fact that it launched with only 1.6m and is getting 1.2m against the Euro's is impressive (and Love Island) I agree especially as it's up on last year. The soaps have only been getting 4.5-6.5m against the Euros

Good officials next Monday you reckon?

[Vanessa]

The Marco effect :dance:

[Rob!]

It is doing well - it's a shame it has so much competition (and still to come) this year because on it's own the word of mouth this series is creating could be awesome. It's a shame that they don't include My5 figures in the ratings.

[Jamesy]

It's doing incredibly well given everything on TV at the moment, and given how last year's series was awful.

When do the first set of officials get released?

[Rob!]

Remember when we all panicked when BB14 launched to 2.13m? :laugh:

[*mazedsalv**]

It's doing incredibly well given everything on TV at the moment, and given how last year's series was awful.

When do the first set of officials get released?

We'll get the ones from launch-last night (Sunday), next Monday.

I reckon they will add ~350k.

[Jason.]

The first 18 days of BB16 were truly quite dull IMO it's no surprise ratings fell.

I enjoyed the first few weeks of BB16 - it was quite refreshing and it showed you don't need constant arguments - it felt like C4 BB imo. The people who say it was dull are the reason why C5 pressed the panic button last year and gave us 4in4out and it got even worse from then on with the legends, Cashbomb, etc.

When you compare it to BB17's first week it does look dull in comparison as this series has been quite messy and explosive - they've both been different but I still enjoyed them both.

[TomC]

I enjoyed the first few weeks of BB16 - it was quite refreshing and it showed you don't need constant arguments - it felt like C4 BB imo. The people who say it was dull are the reason why C5 pressed the panic button last year and gave us 4in4out and it got even worse from then on with the legends, Cashbomb, etc.

When you compare it to BB17's first week it does look dull in comparison as this series has been quite messy and explosive - they've both been different but I still enjoyed them both.

I would say it felt like the start of BB1, BB2 and BB4 and i just didn't have the patience for it :laugh:

I definitely think that BB16 and BB17 first weeks were actually at complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

[crazycolaist]

when do officials come 4 weeks aint it?

[TomC]

Officials from last week come a week today

[*mazedsalv**]

Big games coming up still, so I predict 1.11m-1.2m until around 2 weeks when there are a few days without it clashing due to the group stages being over.

Tonight- 1.16m
Tomorrow- 1.20m and 1.24m for the 10pm Twist Reveal
Wednesday- 1.31m
Thursday- 1.13m
Friday- 1.10m

[Will.]

0.93 excluding +1

So should be around 1.05-1.1

Not amazing but it was up against LI which got 800K-900K and Made In Chelsea which got around 500K and the football which got over 6M.

[Cal.]

No excuses, it's already dropped below a million that's trashhttps://uploadir.com/u/qzppz4us

[Cal.]

Oh wait excluding +1 so it's not actually below a million

[Will.]

It hasn't dropped below 1M, need to get +1 :)

[Will.]

Oh wait excluding +1 so it's not actually below a million

yeah :laugh:

[Will.]

Could be quite a big +1, perhaps 150-200K.

[*mazedsalv**]

It got 180k on +1 making it 1.11m incl +1

[Will.]

That's a good +1 I think?

[TomC]

So it's still pretty much on a par with BB16. It seems like BB16's first eviction had a bit of an impact on ratings. Hopefully marco goes this week so no more viewers are turned off :laugh:

[Will.]

Yeah same as BB16 last year, which got 1.13M.

[Cal.]

Had BB16 gone under a million by this point?

[Firewire]

Had BB16 gone under a million by this point?

I think the first Saturday show was under 1m

[*mazedsalv**]

Had BB16 gone under a million by this point?

The first Saturday did, yes. It got 750k. This series hasn't yet.

[Will.]

The first Saturday was a mess, it got 750K, which is 350K lower than the first BB17 Sat rating.

[Cal.]

Slay everyone thank Charlie for bringing these figures in

[Will.]

I'm just looking at BB15's ratings as it launched similar time to BB17 and it's ratings are all over the place.

for example,

week 1:
Sun - 1.5M
Mon - 1.2M
Thursday - 1.03M
Friday - 990K

week 2:
Mon - 1.4M
Tuesday 1.2M

Not as bad in week 2/3/4 but it get's random again in

week 5:
Sun - 1.15M
Mon - 1.4M
Tues - 1.10M

[JohnnyBB]

Big brother 990k exc +1

Big brother the live twist 890k exc +1

[Nicky91]

So it's still pretty much on a par with BB16. It seems like BB16's first eviction had a bit of an impact on ratings. Hopefully marco goes this week so no more viewers are turned off :laugh:

yeah i agree, if marco goes this week, that would be good for the viewers, if he won't then some viewers will turn off i think :)

[Will.]

1.2M inc +1 (5.6%)

[Will.]

120K up on last years equivalent (1..08)

First Tuesday ratings:

BB14 - 1.42M
BB15 -1.3M
BB16 - 1.08M
BB17 - 1.2M

[TomC]

Really hoping that it holds up :fc:

As long as they continue to have reasonable production, I want this series to rate higher than BB16. BB16 deserves to stay as the lowest rated series of all time!

[Rob!]

People are going to be dicks tomorrow though and not watch tonight out of some sort of spite towards channel 5. :bored:

[Will.]

Yeah it's holding up really well considering LI gets like 800K views now. It's a really good series so far.

CH5 will be pleased with around 1.2M most nights.

LI and the Euros will be over in a few weeks so it will be interesting to see how it does.

[*mazedsalv**]

Good that's it's up on last year.

Tonight is a tricky one. On a negative side everyone was so seriously fumed about last night. On the plus it's on at 10pm and doesn't face the Euro's or LI.

So perhaps 1.2-1.3m?

[Samm]

You gotta be pretty sad if you boycott a show because of a technical failure

[Will.]

You gotta be pretty sad if you boycott a show because of a technical failure

I agree, it doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the series, it's who ever was controlling it.

Like I'm still loving this series.

[Rob!]

You gotta be pretty sad if you boycott a show because of a technical failure

This but Twitter is full of complete and utter morons

[Will.]

This but Twitter is full of complete and utter morons

Some of them are ridiculous, like there still moaning about it an hour after it's finished :o

[Rob!]

Facebook was even worse. I feel so sorry for the digital team tbh

[Cal.]

Glad it still hasn't dipped below a million :clap1:

[Will.]

Facebook was even worse. I feel so sorry for the digital team tbh

Oh I didn't look much at FB, I swear other shows don't get this amount of moaning :laugh:

People just need to turn it off if they feel the need rant every night.

[Will.]

1.09M excluding +1 (6.8%)

[TomC]

Wow, that's pretty good right?

[Cal.]

:clap1:

[Will.]

yeah, should get at least 1.2M with +1

[supertv247]

This years series is currently averaging the same overnight average as powertrip was this far in. 100k up on timebomb (1.24m, 1.14m)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I imagine the officials will be quite high this year its doing well considering its up against so much competition with football and Love Island amongst other stuff. Even though its been a mess this year seems so raw and BB5'esque and the headlines its generating is the most a civilian series has had in years with the likes of The Sun actually having exclusive stories of housemates before they entered the house just like back in the day Andrew has made over 100k on newspaper interviews alone so theres major interest and its great to see BB back making headlines. Anyone got the +1 figure yet?

[Rob!]

I imagine the officials will be quite high this year its doing well considering its up against so much competition with football and Love Island amongst other stuff. Even though its been a mess this year seems so raw and BB5'esque and the headlines its generating is the most a civilian series has had in years with the likes of The Sun actually having exclusive stories of housemates before they entered the house just like back in the day Andrew has made over 100k on newspaper interviews alone so theres major interest and its great to see BB back making headlines. Anyone got the +1 figure yet?

It'll probably be the old reliable 1.2m. One thing that can be said for BB is at least it's consistent

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Also what I don't understand is why is Love Island seen as a huge success when it doesn't hit a million viewers yet BB gets well over a million and people complain its not doing well? BB really does have so much scrutiny from complaints for bad behavior when the likes of Geordie Shore and Love Island show actual sex and much more outrageous behavior imo without contestants getting warnings. BB fans are the shows worst enemy, I don't understand why they watch if they get so easily offended. Just sit back and enjoy and if you don't like what you see pick up the remote and watch David Attenborough or something. Its mad how it doesn't rate anywhere near what it used to but is allways the most complained about show every year.

[Cal.]

Also what I don't understand is why is Love Island seen as a huge success when it doesn't hit a million viewers yet BB gets well over a million and people complain its not doing well? BB really does have so much scrutiny from complaints for bad behavior when the likes of Geordie Shore and Love Island show actual sex and much more outrageous behavior imo without contestants getting warnings. BB fans are the shows worst enemy, I don't understand why they watch if they get so easily offended. Just sit back and enjoy and if you don't like what you see pick up the remote and watch David Attenborough or something. Its mad how it doesn't rate anywhere near what it used to but is allways the most complained about show every year.

I agree with this. Geordie Shore is regarded as the most successful reality TV show on TV - but gets similar ratings to BB? (BB generally gets higher but is seen as a flop). The thing is, BB never had that big of an audience anyway (5 million was really nothing in 2002/2004) so as it's shed it's audience over the years the figure has got smaller and makes it look bad. The fact is the soaps used to get 14/15 million a night and now get 5-6 million a night and are still regarded as a success even though they've dropped more ratings than BB. I think BB's ratings are healthy for this day and age.

[Nicky91]

i think the ratings will be better if Marco is evicted this Friday :)

[Cal.]

And CBB3 got an average of 4.3 million viewers in 2005 - CBB15 got an average of 3.1 million viewers in 2015. Is a 1 million viewer drop in a decade even that much of a big deal? (I know CBB is higher rated than BB but still is a 3 million viewer drop from BB7 to BB17 even that much - less people are watching TV these days then those days?)

[zakman440]

I'd say that the reason Love Island/Geordie Shore are both considered successes is because they're both on digital channels (ITV2/MTV) which have a much lower scope and lower budgets - they're both easily the highest rating shows on their respective channels (not to mention the fact that Geordie Shore is exported to a lot of other countries around the world and Love Island had a very large promotional campaign).

Big Brother could be considered less successful because Channel 5 is a PSB that has a much larger budget and scope than both of the former channels, and it has other shows that rate much higher than Big Brother (The X-Files was reaching up to 4 million viewers when it was on).

[Walter White]

I still have no idea how TV ratings are measured.

[supertv247]

I think Love Island is as a success this year because last year it's ratings were 3-500k and this year they have literally doubled. And it's on ITV 2.
For Big Brother, a show that averaged 1.6, 1.6, 1.9 & 1.6m viewers over the past 4 years, dropping to 1.4m last year did seem like a fail. But that's why this year should be seen as a real success since it's s back up!

[*mazedsalv**]

Also what I don't understand is why is Love Island seen as a huge success when it doesn't hit a million viewers yet BB gets well over a million and people complain its not doing well? BB really does have so much scrutiny from complaints for bad behavior when the likes of Geordie Shore and Love Island show actual sex and much more outrageous behavior imo without contestants getting warnings. BB fans are the shows worst enemy, I don't understand why they watch if they get so easily offended. Just sit back and enjoy and if you don't like what you see pick up the remote and watch David Attenborough or something. Its mad how it doesn't rate anywhere near what it used to but is allways the most complained about show every year.

I guess it's because LI is on ITV2 and he audience "reach" is like only like two thirds of C5's audience "reach".

[TomC]

What was the +1 figure for last night?

[Rob!]

Big Brother: 0.91m excl +1 (4.3%)
Love Island: 0.73m excl +1 (3.4%)

[Rob!]

Was it against the footy last night?

[armand.kay]

Excl = excluding right?

[Rob!]

I've literally just woken up. Yes :joker:

[Rob!]

I'm not good in the first ten minutes, it took me ages to type that out:

[Nicky91]

I've literally just woken up. Yes :joker:

yeah good morning Rob :)




btw i sent you a friend request and visitor message :)

[armand.kay]

I've literally just woken up. Yes :joker:

Great I got worried for a sec :laugh:

[armand.kay]

Have the officials for week one been released yet?

[Samm]

1.1 (incl +1)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Dissapointing.

[Gstar]

Me and everyone else I know hardly ever watch it at the broadcasted time, life is way too busy. The officials should be good

[Gstar]

They should include Irelands atings

[daniel-lewis-1985]

They should include Irelands atings

I agree with this I don't know why they don't include Irelands ratings.

[MB.]

They really need to stop scheduling it against Love Island

[armand.kay]

Can the yuth get some taste and stop prioritising LI http://i.imgur.com/VADO7jI.gif

[Will.]

Up on last years second Thursday which got 1.05M

[Will.]

I think it's holding up considerably well as LI was getting like 200K views last year and this year it's getting around 800K and BB17 is rating higher than BB16.

[Rob!]

Urgh it needs to be up. As if Love Island has actually gotten so close to it in the ratings.

[Will.]

LI officials are decent, 1.25M for most days.

[Rob!]

I mean fair play to ITV2, they've struck gold this series. Chances are it'll grow next year as well. BB needs to be well out of it's way next year, let's be realistic about this.

[Will.]

BB is around 400K views higher than LI.

Yeah ITV2 deserve, it's a good show.

I mean the cast isn't very diverse and there all young people but it works.

[Jack_]

Love Island deserve these ratings after such an incredible promo campaign (and a great series to boot), if only C5 had followed their lead the consistent figures this series is posting might've been a little higher

If you don't grab them on the launch, chances are you're not going to at all. The promotion ****ing sucked and this is the result

[Will.]

Love Island deserve these ratings after such an incredible promo campaign (and a great series to boot), if only C5 had followed their lead the consistent figures this series is posting might've been a little higher

If you don't grab them on the launch, chances are you're not going to at all. The promotion ****ing sucked and this is the result

Tbf though I only saw them promoting LI on ITV and no other channel so that's why it got big numbers because BGT was watched by like 9M.

[Jason.]

Speaking of LI, this year has done amazingly well. Last year the first week averaged 0.5m but this year the first week has averaged 1.3m which is almost triple. And last week did well too with that 1m overnight figure.

[Jason.]

Tbf though I only saw them promoting LI on ITV and no other channel so that's why it got big numbers because BGT was watched by like 9M.

C5 do the same tbf - like they only ever show their ads on C5 really. The difference is LI promotes it better within its channel - they have those countdown tags at the top of the screen so anyone watching ITV2 will know when it's on and they even do it during the series as well as prior. Alongside that they have their ads and little snippets and teasers. All C5 do is just show the BB advert during a repeat of Home and Away.

[Will.]

C5 do the same tbf - like they only ever show their ads on C5 really. The difference is LI promotes it better within its channel - they have those countdown tags at the top of the screen so anyone watching ITV2 will know when it's on and they even do it during the series as well as prior. Alongside that they have their ads and little snippets and teasers. All C5 do is just show the BB advert during a repeat of Home and Away.

Yeah that's what I meant, they had smilier promotional campaigns.

That's what ITV did, just played the advert on repeat and it got annoying.

[*mazedsalv**]

It's the standard.

I wonder what it will get tonight. Similar? 1.1m again? It won't go up until both Euros and LI finishes.

[Will.]

LI will always have the advantage of having ITV which is a huge Chanel.

LI promotion was less messy and overall good.

[Rob!]

Not expecting great things from tonight. Up against the football, Eurotrash (which apparently was quite the cult show in it's day) and Love Island.

[*mazedsalv**]

Shame ratings will be piss poor for last night, shame because last night was fantastic!

[Will.]

It might not be, I mean it held up quite well last Friday, and there's no Gogglebox this week.

[Will.]

1.12 excluding +1

That's good, should be around 1.3M with +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

Highest excl +1 since the first HL show I think.

Around 1.3m incl +1? It beat Eurotrash on C4 which surprised me

[Will.]

Highest excl +1 since the first HL show I think.

Around 1.3m incl +1? It beat Eurotrash on C4 which surprised me

Yeah second highest, the day after launch got like 1.35 excluding +1 I think.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah second highest, the day after launch got like 1.35 excluding +1 I think.

I wonder what +1 looks like. It's usually not large for eviction as it runs 90 mins but i think the reveal/Marco's eviction could have had a decent number wast to tune in after.

[Will.]

I wonder what +1 looks like. It's usually not large for eviction as it runs 90 mins but i think the reveal/Marco's eviction could have had a decent number wast to tune in after.

Yeah, perhaps it will hit 1.25M.

It's already up on last year first eviction which got 1.1M and BB15's first eviction which got 1.03M including +1 :o

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah, perhaps it will hit 1.25M.

It's already up on last year first eviction which got 1.1M and BB15's first eviction which got 1.03M including +1 :o

Good to hear! And with more competition!

[TomC]

I think tonight will beat bb16's second Saturday show rating of 650K no problem.

[*mazedsalv**]

I think tonight will beat bb16's second Saturday show rating of 650K no problem.

For sure.

Not sure if it will beat last weeks though, but tbh last night was higher than the Friday before, and more exciting, so perhaps....

[supertv247]

We also got BOTS rating for last night which is unusual.
570k excluding +1! Very strong, and actually higher than most spinoff shows on XF, BUT etc

[Jamesy]

I've never understood how BOTS does so well in ratings, it's really trash TV.

Brilliant rating for the eviction show considering everything on TV at the moment, and well deserved, it was really well put together, professional and very C4. For once it looks like they're learning and creating a better show. Still a few niggles I have such as Marcus telling the evicted HM to leave and those dramatic stairs, but on the whole it was very well done. Eviction interview was great, no trash crowd shouting and a longer interview for once (that set is gorgeous too). The reveal of the others was also really well done, no cheesy VTs, just a pure simple reveal, like they used to do.

I hope the show can continue to stay above 1m each night, at this stage it deserves to.

[Rob!]

Wow that's a lot better than I expected.

[MB.]

I guess BOTS outperforming the likes of The Xtra Factor just proves that the show really does have a solid fan base and, idk, bring back live feed or something

[Maxxie.]

Wait 1.3 is considered good for BB nowadays? As this series is more of the standard than BB14, I was hoping for a few 2m+ officials how is that not realistic? Also if it gets similar coverage than it is now then hopefully some episodes will beat the launch in ratings which will be 10 years since that happened for regular BB.

[Jason.]

Wait 1.3 is considered good for BB nowadays? As this series is more of the standard than BB14, I was hoping for a few 2m+ officials how is that not realistic? Also if it gets similar coverage than it is now then hopefully some episodes will beat the launch in ratings which will be 10 years since that happened for regular BB.

1.3m would've been crap like 3-4 years ago, but BB15/16 lost quite a lot of the loyal viewership BB had on C5. It used to comfortably rate around 1.6m (BB12, BB13, and BB15 did) with the exception of BB14 which rated higher at 1.9m, but given how awful the last two years have been, they've lost quite a lot of viewers as a result and I can't see C5 gaining them back sadly. 1.3/1.4m now is pretty much what 1.6m was to BB12/BB13 at the time.

As long as it's not under a million, I'm happy. And tbh ratings don't reflect quality. I hope C5 just focus on producing a good series instead of being concerned about how it's rating - something they didn't do for BB16, hence why we got 4in4out etc

[Samm]

Really good since the last two first live evictions kind of flopped, I remember when Sallie's eviction had like over 2M

[Will.]

Apparently 1.4M with +1

:clap1:

[Jake.]

Apparently 1.4M with +1

:clap1:

that's not too shabby

[Will.]

that's not too shabby

It's great, 300K higher than last year.

[TomC]

That's really good actually.

According to BBSpy, that's the highest eviction overnight since Marlon's.

[Will.]

I think 1.1M tonight.

[Will.]

Last nights eviction deserved a really good rating, the production was brilliant.

[TomC]

What do we project this series will officially rate? 1.5m?

[Will.]

1.6M

[Will.]

Welp I didn't realise how low BB16 officials were, I thought it averaged about 1.5M

But it only averaged 1.36M

[*mazedsalv**]

That 1.4m was a rumour I think. That would mean over 250k on +1 and that's rare for an eviction. I wish though. If it was its the highest eviction either since BB15 Armeggedon or BB14 :shocked:

[Will.]

One of this weeks got 180K with +1 so 250K is possible.

[Will.]

The 1.4M is confirmed:
744145613189750784

[*mazedsalv**]

The 1.4M is confirmed:
744145613189750784

Is she a ratings person?

1.4m though :clap1:

[Will.]

Is she a ratings person?

1.4m though :clap1:

Yeah I'm sure she writes for The Telegraph or something.

She's defo genuine.

[Jason.]

Looking forwards to the officials on Monday

[Jake.]

:clap1:

[Greg!]

A mess isn't 1.4 higher than the launch? Totally deserving though last night's ep was really well produced :clap1:

[Will.]

A mess isn't 1.4 higher than the launch? Totally deserving though last night's ep was really well produced :clap1:

200K off the launch which is really good :)

[Greg!]

200K off the launch which is really good :)

Oh yeah just checked, the launch was 1.39 excluding +1. Still it's a really good figure

[Will.]

Oh yeah just checked, the launch was 1.39 excluding +1. Still it's a really good figure

yeah 1.39, It's done really well to hold up this strong.

I think CBB17 was the same, it wasn't a huge launch figure but it held a lot of the audience.

[Shaun]

get Lorna in for CBB

[TomC]

I'm happy for them, they've done good so far, to have to first live eviction only 200k less than launch is amazing.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Really looking forward to the officials on Monday I never watch the show live anymore simply because theres to many adverts and I'm sure a lot of viewers do the same and Tivo it.

Viewing habits have changed and although its important for advertisers to people watching live the official ratings for the actual show will be the highest since BB14 imo.

Last nights show was brilliant and the new set is very old school BB and the crowd actually behaved I was shocked tonot hear "OFF OFF OFF!" which allways used to grip my sh!t.

Well done Channel 5!

[*mazedsalv**]

Really looking forward to the officials on Monday I never watch the show live anymore simply because theres to many adverts and I'm sure a lot of viewers do the same and Tivo it.

Viewing habits have changed and although its important for advertisers to people watching live the official ratings for the actual show will be the highest since BB14 imo.

Last nights show was brilliant and the new set is very old school BB and the crowd actually behaved I was shocked tonot hear "OFF OFF OFF!" which allways used to grip my sh!t.

Well done Channel 5!

Yep I've only watched 3 shows live (launch, first Hl show and last night), the other times I have either watched on +1 or most of the time, record. It's so much easier without the ads.

Officials will be interesting, what do we think? 350k-400k climb? So the 1.2m type ratings go ~1.6m? It'd be awesome if it was like half a million, but for a civvie series, very unlikely! BB16 only added like 200k.

[*mazedsalv**]

yeah 1.39, It's done really well to hold up this strong.

I think CBB17 was the same, it wasn't a huge launch figure but it held a lot of the audience.

Yep CBB17 did the same, don't know what happened with the last few days (i call it the curse of the last week of CBB) when all of a sudden the last few days drop which is odd, it's happened for CBB15, CBB16 and CBB17 (i think CBB14 too).

But the 2nd last week, an episode got 2.80m overnights which matched the launch 2.80m.

[crazycolaist]

Hoping officials will be about 1.8m, 2.1 max not enough advertising this year again..

[*mazedsalv**]

Hoping officials will be about 1.8m, 2.1 max not enough advertising this year again..

I doubt they'll reach 1.8m, especially not 2.1m!

[Rob!]

Safe to say this series isn't doing too shabbily at all.

[Lostie!]

I don't really get ratings talk but from the comments in here the series seems to be doing well so far. Glad to hear it, it deserves to :clap1:

[Gstar]

Really good since the last two first live evictions kind of flopped, I remember when Sallie's eviction had like over 2M

The official rating for that episode was 2.20m. BB3 hew?

[nonstop]

1.35m

[iRyan]

Thats good isn't it?

[Jake.]

Big Brother - 810k

[*mazedsalv**]

Big Brother - 810k

Not great, around 900k incl +1 I'd say. The streak has ended with over 1m :(

I mean it's decent for a Saturday at 10pm, but meh. Tonight, 1.4m?

[Will.]

That's not too bad, could hit high 900K/1M with +1.

I mean BB16's 2nd Sat got 650K with +1 :joker:

[Jake.]

I'll go with 1.3 for tonight. Don't think it'll have the big enough +1 to match the eviction

[Will.]

Probs be around 950K with +1.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm confused, there is no "live segment" tonight, right? So they merge today, but we don't get to see it until tomorrow?

I can see a lot of people annoyed when they tune it tonight thinking we will see the merge.

[*mazedsalv**]

Probs be around 950K with +1.

Doubtful. +1 at 11pm doesn't add much at all.

[Will.]

Doubtful. +1 at 11pm doesn't add much at all.

I'm sure last week added 200K.

[Will.]

Oh no my mistake.

Last week added 70K.

[Cal.]

Fumed not it dropping below a million

[Will.]

Fumed not it dropping below a million

Let's pray for an amazing +1 :(

[*mazedsalv**]

Let's pray for an amazing +1 :(

Don't think a +1 has ever added over 100k when it's on at 11pm.

[Cal.]

Cue a mass eviction/celebrities moving into the second househttp://67.media.tumblr.com/205a06d0a649d1139347f48426c8f2a4/tumblr_o8x45uhjnO1v9roxto1_400.gif

[*mazedsalv**]

Ha calm down, it's higher than the majority of the BB16 Saturdays anyway. All but like 3.

[Cal.]

This series should be beating BB16 at everything m

[*mazedsalv**]

This series should be beating BB16 at everything m

Completely agree

[Jake.]

Yeah it's not great but it was a Saturday.. Low ratings aren't a new thing

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah it's not great but it was a Saturday.. Low ratings aren't a new thing

Exactly. Plus literally everything that wasn;t the news or a match was at like under 2.5m all day.

[T*]

Not surprised tbh

[Nicky91]

maybe the low ratings are because of euro 2016 :)

[Jason.]

Not a great rating, but I'll take it with a pinch of salt as it was a Saturday and that's the lowest rated day of the week.

[*mazedsalv**]

Yeah no need to worry at all.

I never base anything on Saturdays.

[crazycolaist]

300K people including myself who went out last night. It was the first saturday where wasnt raining at night makes sense, officials are going to be consistent with each other I think,

[*mazedsalv**]

Not good... LI beat BB last night. Incl +1

Love Island- 1.13m
Big Brother- 1.09m

:(

[Cal.]

Mess LI is BORING

But people only tuned into it because Zara lost her GB crown

[*mazedsalv**]

Mess LI is BORING

But people only tuned into it because Zara lost her GB crown

Don't know, maybe :shrug:

But either way, not good. Only good thing for C5 is that the same ep last year got 901k.

[Cal.]

LI is boring now it doesn't deserve the ratings anymore. BB>>>

Even if it does become a problem for BB, the majority of BB17 will air whilst LI is off air as LI only has 13 days left. It's a shame because BB17 is far better than LI2.

[*mazedsalv**]

LI is boring now it doesn't deserve the ratings anymore. BB>>>

Even if it does become a problem for BB, the majority of BB17 will air whilst LI is off air as LI only has 13 days left. It's a shame because BB17 is far better than LI2.

Doesn't it have 11 days left? Pretty sure it finishes Friday 1st.

[Cal.]

Doesn't it have 11 days left? Pretty sure it finishes Friday 1st.

Even better.

I really hope BB production don't do anything stupid because of this to increase the ratings.

It just shows that there's a potential audience of 2.5 million for BB when you combine the BB17 rating and the Love Island rating. It's just that 1.2 million are choosing not to tune in to BB.

[Jamesy]

I think it's good that both shows can retain a 1m audience, given they're the same kind of reality show.

Sure LI audience has trebled in a year, that's great for them, although despite this it has bot affected Big Brothers ratings, which are up on last year's (not by much, but still).

It's good for both shows. ITV are certainly onto a winner with LI, and Big Brother is keeping a dedicated 1m audience, I know other C5 shows do better although to have a show that's on every night for 3 months with a guaranteed 1m viewers each night, that's a great thing.

[Mrmattybeck]

Great to see love island so strong production much better than bbuk this year


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[*mazedsalv**]

LI is skewing extremely young it seems:

16-34s:
Big Brother: 306k... 28% skew
Love Island: 528k... 47% skew

This will be worrying for C5 who's plan was to "target young and new viewers", well obviously aint happening

[Will.]

Not great but it not that big of a deal as LI is over soon.

It's still up on last year which got 901K with +1.

[Will.]

Love Island ends on July 1st.

So BB will have around 5 weeks without LI as competition.

[*mazedsalv**]

Oh dear.

Tonight will be bad. BB was on at 10pm as always but now LI have pushed their show also to 10pm because of the Euro England match.

[Will.]

Oh dear.

Tonight will be bad. BB was on at 10pm as always but now LI have pushed their show also to 10pm because of the Euro England match.

Ugh they need to both stop putting together.

LI would suit 10PM better and BB at 9PM imo.

[Will.]

Oh didn't realise England are playing tonight.

[*mazedsalv**]

Ugh they need to both stop putting together.

LI would suit 10PM better and BB at 9PM imo.

I'll accept this because anything facing the England match is ratings suicide. All the main channels have even given up.

But apart from that, I agree, they should put BB at 9pm and LI at 10pm, or vica versa. Can't wait to see how the officials do for the first few days (Launch-Sunday)

[Will.]

I'll accept this because anything facing the England match is ratings suicide. All the main channels have even given up.

But apart from that, I agree, they should put BB at 9pm and LI at 10pm, or vica versa. Can't wait to see how the officials do for the first few days (Launch-Sunday)

Oh yes I forgot officials today! YAY!

I think considering all the competitions it's doing well.

I think LI at 10 as it appeals mainly to teenagers so that's a good time.

Euro's end around the same time as LI.

[*mazedsalv**]

Oh yes I forgot officials today! YAY!

I think considering all the competitions it's doing well.

I think LI at 10 as it appeals mainly to teenagers so that's a good time.

Euro's end around the same time as LI.

Euro's don't end until 10th July. And BB will clash with the huge games because even if they don't, the extra time/penalties will... so BB is screwed unti the 10th,

[*mazedsalv**]

This will be annoying, I've noticed that C5 haven't appeared on BARB in weeks and weeks....

I don't think we will EVER get BB officials!!!!!!!!!!

[TomC]

Oh really? So no BB officials?

[*mazedsalv**]

Oh really? So no BB officials?

Well they haven't released C5 stuff for ages now. Ffs :(

[supertv247]

Don't worry, I noticed this too but they HAVE been uploading the 'Channel 5 total' figures which is C5 and C5+1 so we will have them!

[Jason.]

I swear LI is on longer than 1 July as it's 6 weeks and it started on 30th May so 1st July would mean it's 4/5 weeks - unless they've cut it short idk

But good for ITV2 with that LI rating - it's annoying that this year LI is getting as high as BB17 as it's a good series so far but last year Timebomb, which was dire, obliberated LI1 in the ratings

[Jason.]

Slay @ Miss Zara Holland bringing in the ratings tho :clap1:

Here for her being in CBB18

[Rob!]

Wait what :umm2: I didn't think that would ever happen.

LI is killing it this year. ITV must be over the moon.

[Ross.]

Slay @ Miss Zara Holland bringing in the ratings tho :clap1:

Here for her being in CBB18

She's a lock for CBB18 now that she singlehandedly beat BB :clap1:

[Jason.]

She's a lock for CBB18 now that she singlehandedly beat BB :clap1:

Her to get summer CBB the same ratings as January CBB?

[Will.]

Officials are here!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Will.]

BB17 first week officials:

Tuesday - 1.86M
Wednesday - 1.84M
Thursday - 1.74M
Friday - 1.46M
Saturday - 1.56M
Sunday - 1.64M

Average - 1.68M

BB16 first week officials:

Tuesday - 2.09M
Wednesday - 1.38M
Thursday - 1.43M
Friday - 1.45M
Saturday 1.03M
Sunday - 1.38M

Average - 1.59M

[Jason.]

mess that launch figure looks so low compared to all the other c5 launches

[Jason.]

1.68m for the first weeks average

higher than bb16s which was 1.59m and bb15s which was 1.66m :clap1:

[LukeB]

Wow Li beat BB :o

[Will.]

Great officials, Saturday did really well :clap1:

[Cal.]

Amazing ratings :clap1:

[Will.]

Thursday did great as well.

It added 550K on :shocked:

[Jason.]

im really pleased at these ratings - its higher than bb15 which is a good thing

hopefully it continues to grow

[Rob!]

That Saturday rating :clap1:

[Cal.]

How come the eviction is usually one of the smallest ratings?

[Rob!]

Not a Saturday beating the eviction :joker:

[Ross.]

This proves that the May launch last year was an awful idea

[Cal.]

Poor Jackson and Alex

[*mazedsalv**]

BB17 first week officials:

Tuesday - 1.86M
Wednesday - 1.84M
Thursday - 1.74M
Friday - 1.46M
Saturday - 1.56M
Sunday - 1.64M

Average - 1.68M

BB16 first week officials:

Tuesday - 2.09M
Wednesday - 1.38M
Thursday - 1.43M
Friday - 1.45M
Saturday 1.03M
Sunday - 1.38M

Average - 1.59M

Those are with +1 yes? Wow some look great !

[Rob!]

The retention from launch to the next day is absolutely brilliant

[*mazedsalv**]

Wow at just a 20k drop from launch to first hl show

[Rob!]

The last week has been hanging around the 1.2m overnight so around 1.6m officially?

[Will.]

The last week has been hanging around the 1.2m overnight so around 1.6m officially?

yeah should be, could even get some more 1.74M as that highlight show only got 1.2M overnight.

[Will.]

Those are with +1 yes? Wow some look great !

Some of BB16's aren't.

[*mazedsalv**]

The last week has been hanging around the 1.2m overnight so around 1.6m officially?

Yep probably . A 1.6m average would match it with BB12, 13 and 15 .

[*mazedsalv**]

Here for Marco potentially being 3re highest eviction on civvie BB behind Sallie and Dan's evictions.....

It's unlikely but it could happen!

[Will.]

Here for Marco potentially being 3re highest eviction on civvie BB behind Sallie and Dan's evictions.....

It's unlikely but it could happen!

Should be around 1.8M I'm guessing.

[TomC]

BB17 first week officials:

Tuesday - 1.86M
Wednesday - 1.84M
Thursday - 1.74M
Friday - 1.46M
Saturday - 1.56M
Sunday - 1.64M

Average - 1.68M

BB16 first week officials:

Tuesday - 2.09M
Wednesday - 1.38M
Thursday - 1.43M
Friday - 1.45M
Saturday 1.03M
Sunday - 1.38M

Average - 1.59M

It doesn't look like a big difference, but BB16's first week average is dragged up a lot by launch. In fact, excluding launch, BB17 has averaged 1.65m, whereas BB16 only manages 1.33m. So, that's a 300k difference, hopefully meaning that BB17 is going to hold up much better in the long run, and hopefully average over 1.6m.

[*mazedsalv**]

It doesn't look like a big difference, but BB16's first week average is dragged up a lot by launch. In fact, excluding launch, BB17 has averaged 1.65m, whereas BB16 only manages 1.33m. So, that's a 300k difference, hopefully meaning that BB17 is going to hold up much better in the long run, and hopefully average over 1.6m.

Exactly this. Taking the launch out of both, you can see a much bigger difference.

BB16 official average is 1.36m. So tbh as long as we can keep at 1.5m+ it'll be good.

[Jake.]

Really impressive retention from the launch. Good figures all round.

[Jamesy]

Welp at the drop from BB16 launch to first highlights.

These are great figures. As long as figures are up on last year, the show should be just fine. Just hope they continue to make a good show and we don't see stupid twists come soon. These figures just prove that if you don't have ridiculous twists, the viewers are more likely to stay.

[lewis111]

It'll likely grow as well when Love Island finishes

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Wow amazing officials seriously adding over 500k these aren't that far off BB14's.

[Jake.]

Excluding +1:

Big Brother: 1.00m (5.8%)
Love Island: 0.82m (4.7%)

[*mazedsalv**]

Well at least BB was ahead so that'll stop the "OMG yess LI beat BB" crap i saw everywhere on Twitter. Well, looks like a one off! Looks like the same ratings for them at 10pm also then. Looks like fans follow the two shows in both slots.

BB was 3rd in slot behind just BBC1 and ITV.

[Jason.]

Decent rating for BB.

Good for LI though - that'll be around 1.3m in officials for them.

[*mazedsalv**]

The next 3 weeks will be tough.

BB will be clashing with the big matches. C5 can move it as much as they can but when it gets to the later stages, matches go for extra time and penalties... so even when LI ends on the 1st, BB still has heavy competition.

Monday 11th onwards is when we see how much damage LI and Euro's have actually had and see if it climbs.

[Jay_Roberts441]

The next 3 weeks will be tough.

BB will be clashing with the big matches. C5 can move it as much as they can but when it gets to the later stages, matches go for extra time and penalties... so even when LI ends on the 1st, BB still has heavy competition.

Monday 11th onwards is when we see how much damage LI and Euro's have actually had and see if it climbs.

How do you know Love Island finishes on 1 July, it only started on 30 May and is due to last 6 weeks which makes the final around 8 July.

[Yaki da]

The Love Islanders keep saying they have another 3 weeks on the show.

[Jay_Roberts441]

The Love Islanders keep saying they have another 3 weeks on the show.

Exactly what I as thinking, I mean the 1 July is in 10 days so wouldn't they be saying "days" rather than "weeks". 3 full weeks would take them to 8 July or 10 July depending what day the final is on.

Also I highly doubt the final is next week as Applause Store haven't even released tickets yet or got a date on the website, surely they would give people the chance to get flights and hotels in Majorca sorted out in advance?!.

[Glenn-C]

I wonder how much higher the ratings would be with TV3 included

[Jason.]

LI doesn't end on 1 July, I don't think.

The series is scheduled for 6 weeks like last year and it started 3 weeks ago on 30th May so it's not ending next week as that would make it just over 4 weeks. It'll probably end sometime around 8-11th July.

It won't be shorter than last years series - especially given it's getting over double the ratings.

[Rob!]

1m isn't that great is it? :/

[*mazedsalv**]

TV listings bill Friday 1st as episode 33/33

Edit- Hmm now it's saying it's on longer, but there is no episode number. Odd they have put 33/33 on the 1st and then no episode numbers for the following day. So Radio Times were wrong then.

[*mazedsalv**]

1m isn't that great is it? :/

Well 1.1m incl +1 is around 1.5m officially. Not terrible.

[Rob!]

Well 1.1m incl +1 is around 1.5m officially. Not terrible.

Oh fair enough. Not below 1m I suppose is what we should be aiming for. I just think this series deserves a lot lot better.

[Jay_Roberts441]

Love Island airtimes 2-8 July 2016 (http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep34week27/love-island)

Well that confirms LI does not end on 1 July. Oddly though *mazedsalv** IIRC I remember seeing LI was scheduled for 33 episodes but ITV have obviously extended it giving the ratings success.

[Ross.]

It's always been intended to be on for six weeks

[Jason.]

So LI ends on 8th July then?

Same duration as the first series

[*mazedsalv**]

It's always been intended to be on for six weeks

Hmm I didn't know and neither did Radio Times then because they put the Friday 1st as the last episode.

Well, either way, we have a long road until the 10th July when both Euro's finishes and LI should be finished.

[Jay_Roberts441]

It's a bit weird were the final of Love Island is concerned, ITV Press are refusing to put the final episode count on the website as they are just showing the episode numbers for the week.

On the Love Island contestant application website (https://itv.etribez.com/a/itvli/loveisland2/welcome) the last date for new people to apply is 6 July 2016 with a valid passport from 1 May 2016 to 31 August 2016 (inclusive) also the contestants need to be exclusively available to participate in Love Island for up to seven consecutive weeks during June and July 2016.

[Rob!]

I don't know why nobody has posted in here today but last night got 980k (4.6%) excl +1 vs Love Island's 820k (3.9%).

[billy123]

I don't know why nobody has posted in here today but last night got 980k (4.6%) excl +1 vs Love Island's 820k (3.9%).These are really poor figures whatever anybody claims. This is a really expensive show to produce and only a couple of years ago the comparisons were all about how well it did against itv,c4 and bbc2 now its battling itv2.
This is not good.
I have no idea what Love Island costs to produce but im pretty sure it will be nowhere near the £40million a year it costs to produce BBUK

http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb15/news/0323/channel-5-paying-40million-a-year-for-big-brother-uk-120-million-new-deal-negotiations-viacom

[*mazedsalv**]

It got 1.1m incl +1 last night.

I read it 1.14m.

So close to be rounded up to 1.2m. 1.1-1.3m is the standard C5 rating.

[TomC]

This week is beating last year's equivalent comfortably, right?

[crazycolaist]

This week is beating last year's equivalent comfortably, right?

Yeah I looked on bbspy everything is above except launch.