Big Brother UK 17 - General Discussion Thread

[LukeB]

Wasn't Eastenders the first to have the snapchat filters

I can't remember that :worry:

[Jack.]

Rylan's show started before LI :oh:

:oh:

[Jack.]

I can't remember that :worry:

Neither can I :worry:

[TomC]

Yeah I also am done with the 'pre-season hype' stuff I'm sick of waiting, I don't have time to wait around for BB news lol, I'm just gonna look forward to Tuesday

[Will.]

I don't want to die :worry:

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[Headie]

"Every big brother fan is going to DIE. I'm here"

Welp

[Lostie!]

I don't want to die :worry:

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http://i.imgur.com/c9Yr7cH.gif

[RichardG]

I wish I could believe you Rylan :sad:

[Jack_]

Stop with the ****ing teasing and give us the God damn ****ing rest of the ****ing pictures for **** sake

[Jack.]

I don't want to die :worry:

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Neither do I :worry:

[Samm]

I don't want to die :worry:

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Death threats?

[Jason.]

I promise hand on heart it's the best you have ever seen!

BB6 11-year reunion incoming?

[Jack_]

Death threats?

:joker:

[RichardG]

Stop with the ****ing teasing and give us the God damn ****ing rest of the ****ing pictures for **** sake

and once again, it's rylan

all @bbuk has bothered to tweet is a gif of nick henderson :umm2:

[Natalie.]

Death threats?
:joker::joker:

BB6 11-year reunion incoming?
Yes :clap2:

[Rob!]

I'm here

Not a mass suicide?

[Jack_]

and once again, it's rylan

all @bbuk has bothered to tweet is a gif of nick henderson :umm2:

:joker:

Whoever is running the social media this year is a ****ing joke, they cba to promote or announce anything themselves

Why is everything being given to Rylan?!

[Jason.]

Death threats?

lmao

[Henry2014]

Rylan's snapchat filter was only local to the Hospital Club in London- not national like LI and Eastenders etc. :D

[Will.]

I'm running BB's social media accounts this year

[Henry2014]

Rylan does have a larger than both Emma and the @bbuk account.

[Jason.]

Can someone please remember to bump that tweet this time next week when we'll all be disappointed.

[Jack.]

Rylan's snapchat filter was only local to the Hospital Club in London- not national like LI and Eastenders etc. :D

Oh right all i seen was that Rylan had a snapchat filter didn't know it was only local. Did eastenders really have one? :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Not here for rylan telling me I'm going to die. I'm breaking my 4 month dry spell tonight

[RichardG]

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oh and they've posted one other tweet today, a video... of rylan... :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Messy

[Will.]

lol

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[Jack_]

lol

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:sleep:

I ****ing hate these ****ty Twitter accounts so much

[Jack_]

welp there's some dreadful opinions going on on the #BBUK feed

the hnd was a crap idea
#bbuk #bb7

might need to stop watching bb7 until the hnd goes away they seem to have forgotten the proper house
#bbuk #bb7

who would want to live with nikki and that whiny voice
#bbuk #bb7

i would end up punching the whiny cow
#bbuk #bb7

[SmallMouth27]

welp there's some dreadful opinions going on on the #BBUK feed
Jodie Stewart... She's so ****ing annoying. I would punch the **** out of her gob if I could. She even has a shitty little wordpress page, full of her **** reviews.

[Daniel.]

HND was awful though to be fair, great idea though

[Jack_]

the HND is the best twist of all time in terms of concept and execution

[Daniel.]

In terms of concept Maybe, though I prefer the bedsit and secret garden ideas

Execution? No it isn't.

The Bedsit, The Secret Garden and Two Lies twist were all far better. All HND did was bring some duds into the house. It had no dramatic effect like the others.

[Jack_]

I couldn't care less who the twist actually involved, the concept of designing an entire secret house is genius and the night where Aisleyne had to evict either Spiral or Jonathan remains one of the greatest twist moments of all time :love:

They might've cottoned onto the existence of the house but no one, including her, saw it coming and her reaction was TV gold <3

Back when live specials were a thing and Big Brother was at its best, I remember it vividly :flutter:

[Daniel.]

They all knew she they weren't going to be evicted, they knew they were moving into the hew house. It was a flop.

[Jack_]

The fake evictions weren't the point of the twist, they were just the build up. The point of the twist was the last night where she had to make the real live eviction decision...and none of them saw that coming

Incredible television

[Rob!]

The HND was an amazing twist. It's just a shame that Jayne was the only decent occupant of it.

[Daniel.]

What was so great about Aisleyne making a choice? Makosi did the same in BB6.

Nothing dramatic like Fight Night or Cidergate came from it.

[rk3388]

well you're wrong because if 'it' went, we'd probably get Rylan doing it. So I'd rather have "Perez is Perez-er-cising in the garden" as opposed to "oh drop me ahht babe Alicia's just nicked two bananas #BANANADRAMA" :omgno:

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[rk3388]

The HND was an amazing twist. It's just a shame that Jayne was the only decent occupant of it.

Jayne was great, but not integral for the series.

Let's not forget she is the reason the whole house was up with VTE - what a mess.

[Daniel.]

BB7 is overrated anyway - it had a great first half but after than nothing happened for weeks on end.

[Jason.]

Yeah lol @ HND being the BEST twist in terms of execution.

The walls weren't even soundproofed ffs. The Bedsit was executed far better and was much more tense and compelling and it even resulted in Fight Night.

Don't get me wrong though, it was still a great twist.

[Daniel.]

Fitting really. The HND was the worst of the three golden series secret room twists - just like BB7 was the worst series of the three. :hee:

[zakman440]

Dr Pamm just posted this on Twitter - that pretty much confirms that the Applause Store image is indeed the title card.

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[Jamie89]

The first 5 minutes alone of the bedsit was enough to make it the best twist :laugh:

[Cal.]

They must have met the housemates and filmed interviews with them today for the launch night BOTS.

[Cal.]

The first 5 minutes alone of the bedsit was enough to make it the best twist :laugh:

Emma's tit flying out>>

[Jason.]

Actually I don't even think HND is the best in terms of concept. I personally think CBB4's non-celebrity twist is up there.

[Headie]

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AJ coming for Rylan and Alison's jobs?

[Jack_]

What was so great about Aisleyne making a choice? Makosi did the same in BB6.

Nothing dramatic like Fight Night or Cidergate came from it.

Makosi's wasn't live and she dealt with it far better than Aisleyne did

I don't care about the aftermath...I'm talking about the actual twist itself. The moment. Not what led up to it or came after it, the live special where she had to evict either Jonathan or Spiral. Incredible, tense television and Big Brother at its best

Yeah lol @ HND being the BEST twist in terms of execution.

The walls weren't even soundproofed ffs. The Bedsit was executed far better and was much more tense and compelling and it even resulted in Fight Night.

Don't get me wrong though, it was still a great twist.

Who gives a crap if the walls weren't soundproofed? I've already said that wasn't the point of the twist or what was great (or rather not great) about it. Yes they realised there was a second house, yes they all realised the evictions were faked, but none of them saw the Spiral vs Jonathan real eviction coming, including Aisleyne...and all of their reactions, especially hers, made it such great TV.

That live special is one of the best of all time. Aisleyne being called to the DR all happy and laughing, her being put on the two plasma screens and everyone screaming realising she's still there, being told that all the evictions were fake and her cheering, then being told she would have to evict someone for real, her suddenly freaking out and getting upset, Davina then evicting Jonathan, Aisleyne then returning to the main house in floods of tears <3333333 uh-mazing from start to finish

[Ashley.]

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AJ coming for Rylan and Alison's jobs?

I'm not going to lie, I found that 60-second clip on how to put fruit in a drink far more entertaining than anything Rylan has done :worry:

[Jamie89]

Emma's tit flying out>>

"Put ya boobs away, man!" :laugh2:

Oh and...

Michelle: You will reenter the house at Big Brothers discretion.
Emma: What does that mean?
Michelle: It means erm, we'll go back in at their discretion.
Emma: Right right.

[Daniel.]

I personally thought it was a flop and not even worth mentioning in the best moments of BB7

[Jamie89]

I thought the best moments of the HND were at the beginning when Aisleyne first when in. Her reaction was great, and her total confusion at meeting the new HM's. After that it quickly became boring because the HM's weren't that interesting, and by the end of it I honestly didn't care who got picked between Spiral and Jonathan.

[Jack_]

I personally thought it was a flop and not even worth mentioning in the best moments of BB7

The house itself was a flop, the real live eviction was most certainly not. In fact, Aisleyne's reaction is a kind of model reaction you want to any kind of twist of that kind. Going in happy and expecting nothing and coming out in floods of tears <333

[Jason.]

I'm talking about the actual twist itself. The moment.



Emma and Michelle being evicted into the bedsit was better. :)

but none of them saw the Spiral vs Jonathan real eviction coming, including Aisleyne...and all of their reactions, especially hers, made it such great TV.

None of the main house saw Emma and Michelle returning to the house coming and when their heads popped out of the serving domes and then Victor and Jason's faces dropped in sheer shock because they'd spent days being smug about outlasting them and the demise of the hareem and bitching about them mercilessly only to find out they weren't evicted all along was more satisyfing.
Made even better by the fact that Michelle and Emma had heard everything they'd been saying about them<3333

[Daniel.]

The Bedsit > The Secret Garden > The House Next Door

[Daniel.]

Also Vanessa eviction completely and utterly outshone that moment in terms of being a twist.

[Ashley.]

Imagine if it had been Richard and Susie up for eviction that week instead of Aisleyne and Susie :worry:

[Cal.]

The House Next Door ruined BB7. Filled the house full of bores and signified the end of the last really entertaining housemates in Lea and Nikki (besides Aisleyne). Even the BB7 housemates say themselves that the HND was ****.

I know it has nothing to do with the debate but I just wanted to add my opinion on the HND.

[Ashley.]

One thing I hated the most about the House Next Door was that it caused Nikki's eviction.

[Jack_]

It doesn't matter who the housemates were, I'm talking about the concept and execution of making someone evict one of two housemates live in front of everyone and the nation when none of them expected it, and how she reacted to it. It was tense and it was genius

[Daniel.]

That happened in BB3 and BB6

[Jack_]

No it didn't, in BB3 and BB6 the entire house voted. In BB7, only one housemate did

Don't get me wrong, I loved the Two Lies week and its culmination in the house vote is one of my favourite twists ever (duh, it's me), but their reactions still wasn't as good TV as Aisleyne's and the entire execution of that live special was absolute perfection

[Cal.]

Makosi running up the eviction stairs asking to be evicted in Vanessa's place though?

[Jack_]

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(ignoring the first part that isn't true), spill it luv x

[Daniel.]

What? Everyone was genuinly shocked in BB6 and it had Kemal run around, Makosi and Vanessa gasp, Makosi running up the stairs, Kemal vote for Vanessa and Vanessa's reaction was FAR better than Aisleyne's.

[Cal.]

(but yeah Aisleyne's reaction is probably the best reaction to a twist ever? it's annoying when the housemates are unbothered by a twist)

[Jason.]

Aisleyne just hysterically sobbed. You're making out like it's the best thing of BBUK ever

[Daniel.]

What? Everyone was genuinly shocked in BB6 and it had Kemal run around, Makosi and Vanessa gasp, Makosi running up the stairs, Kemal vote for Vanessa and Vanessa's reaction was FAR better than Aisleyne's.

Clearly not, as I said here, Vanessa's was better. Emma and Michelle reaction was also better.

[Cal.]

Kemal voting against Makosi is an amazing moment.

[Daniel.]

Screaming I always make out my opinions are facts (in this case, they are)

[Cal.]

I wanna say goosebumps worthy actually but does that sound sad?

[Daniel.]

Loov Kemal running roind pon his kickers, Derek clapping, Makosi and Vanessa sobbing GOOSEBUMBS worthy of course

[LukeB]

Aisleyne just hysterically sobbed. You're making out like it's the best thing of BBUK ever

"Where's Leroy?"

[Cal.]

Loov Kemal running roind pon his kickers, Derek clapping, Makosi and Vanessa sobbing GOOSEBUMBS worthy of course

Nnn not Kemal running around in his knickers being goosebump worthy

But I meant the moment Kemal votes against Makosi was goosebump worthy

[Jason.]

"Where's the cheers man?" whilst a bemused Charley walks out to a silent crowd in her knickers > Aisleyne sobbing like she'd just killed someone's entire family that she had to evict someone after knowing them for 5 days

[Jack_]

Makosi running up the eviction stairs asking to be evicted in Vanessa's place though?

What? Everyone was genuinly shocked in BB6 and it had Kemal run around, Makosi and Vanessa gasp, Makosi running up the stairs, Kemal vote for Vanessa and Vanessa's reaction was FAR better than Aisleyne's.

All good, but I still don't put on a par with Aisleyne's slow disintegration in the DR on live tv

Enters laughing and smiling -> worried because Big Brother starts reciting what she's had to do under the twist -> excitement because they tell her the evictions were fake -> her face slowly dropping as she realises she's going to have to evict someone for real, live on TV -> refusal and pleading not to have to do it -> getting angry because it's so unfair -> starting to cry and not stopping for the next three hours

It was like Big Brother: Bipolar Live

(but yeah Aisleyne's reaction is probably the best reaction to a twist ever? it's annoying when the housemates are unbothered by a twist)

This is precisely my point, Aisleyne's is a model reaction and one they've tried and failed to replicated several times over. For someone to go in happy and laughing and not expecting anything bad to happen and to come out in floods of tears is exactly what Big Brother should be :cheer2:

[Lostie!]

One thing I hated the most about the House Next Door was that it caused Nikki's eviction.

And for that we should be thankful.

(You know, if she didn't come back anyway)

[Jason.]

I like the HND but Aisleyne's reaction wasn't even the best part of it.

[Daniel.]

Or it was just someone crying? You do the most it's a mess

[Ashley.]

And for that we should be thankful.

(You know, if she didn't come back anyway)

Nikki was great.

[Cal.]

I like the HND but Aisleyne's reaction wasn't even the best part of it.

Jayne breaking the bed left you shaken?

[Jack_]

Or it was just someone crying? You do the most it's a mess

I think you need to rewatch the live special cause there was more to it than that, the mess is thinking there wasn't luv

[Daniel.]

I watched it recently, I can remember it well. It was OK but nothing special and nothing on most of the twists in BB5 and BB6

[Daniel.]

I actually think BB7 wasn't good production wise. Tasks were forgettable, awful twists to get rid of someone unfairly, and a flop house next door. :sorry:

[Daniel.]

cf

[Jack_]

I watched it recently, I can remember it well. It was OK but nothing special and nothing on most of the twists in BB5 and BB6

Then we shall have to disagree or this won't go anywhere

[Babayaro.]

BB9's surprise eviction was good in terms of shock reactions from the housemates

[Jason.]

Jayne breaking the bed left you shaken?

:joker:

[Daniel.]

Most reactions are better without twists. Maxwell's and ABCD are the two best ever eviction results for pure shock.

[Jack_]

BB7 is a model example production wise bye

The twists were amazing (yes idc I loved the evictee returnees) and it had loads of endurance tasks which we don't get enough of anymore, plus the Prison Task

[Lostie!]

BB9's surprise eviction was good in terms of shock reactions from the housemates

Yeah that was great because it was a genuine shock to them (both times). And the second evictee being someone they all probably expected to win made it even better (even though Kathreya was one of my favourites :laugh:).

[Ashley.]

BB6 is the best series in terms of twists. BB6 and BB7 are the best series' in terms of housemates. BB7 is the best series in terms of tasks.

[LukeB]

Most reactions are better without twists. Maxwell's and ABCD are the two best ever eviction results for pure shock.

and Winstons.

[Jack_]

6 for housemates and storylines, 7 for production

[Glenn.]

BB7 is a model example production wise bye

The twists were amazing (yes idc I loved the evictee returnees) and it had loads of endurance tasks which we don't get enough of anymore, plus the Prison Task

This. BB6 is up there with it too.

[Jason.]

I liked BB7's tasks. Even if they weren't as good as 5/6's. They were still great.

Imogen's Milk Task and Prison Task >>

[Daniel.]

5 is undisputably the best series task and production wise, 7 was only a little better than 8. Rather rubbish. 6 is a close second to 5.

[LukeB]

Yeah that was great because it was a genuine shock to them (both times). And the second evictee being someone they all probably expected to win made it even better (even though Kathreya was one of my favourites :laugh:).

this is true and she even expected to win or not get evicted "don't take anymore of my friends away" something like that.. and when Davina said Kat everyone was stunned af.

[Jason.]

Tasks/Production = BB5
Casting/Storylines = BB6

[Daniel.]

BB5 and BB6 are the perfect casts, none other come close and BB7 is an overrated bore in it's second half as well as having awful production :sorry:

[Ashley.]

I loved the smaller and simpler tasks from C4, like the crying task in BB6. The producers nowadays only really put effort into shopping tasks, I swear we hardly get small tasks on the weekends anymore?

[Jason.]

Ok I've decided I'm going to re-watch BB6 again after I finish BB13. Cause I'm in the mood for BB6

[Lostie!]

BB7's cast has to be one of my least favourites (bar a few underrated gems among them).

[LukeB]

Ok I've decided I'm going to re-watch BB6 again after I finish BB13. Cause I'm in the mood for BB6

Let me know when you watch and I will watch it with you.

[Jack_]

The HND returnees was a stroke of genius :love:

I remember how excited I got when they were all lined up along the stairs on eviction night and the camera panned down them to Davina like 'what are they doing here?!' before the titles rolled, chills <3333

[Ashley.]

In terms of cast, it's probably

BB7 > BB6 > BB13 > BB9 > BB5 > the rest

[Jason.]

I loved the smaller and simpler tasks from C4, like the crying task in BB6. The producers nowadays only really put effort into shopping tasks, I swear we hardly get small tasks on the weekends anymore?

BB13 had a few decents ones actually. Like Becky's Secret Mission and Ashleigh's two birthday parties task and Lauren's chef/dating one.

[Daniel.]

BB12 is my least favourite cast without doubt, BB15 had two people I liked at least. 16's was ok but no great housemates

[Ashley.]

BB13 had a few decents ones actually. Like Becky's Secret Mission and Ashleigh's two birthday parties task and Lauren's chef/dating one.

I liked the BB13 tasks a lot. BB12 had some great ones too.

[Daniel.]

In terms of cast, it's probably

BB7 > BB6 > BB13 > BB9 > BB5 > the rest

BB7's launch cast is good. but it has way too many duds. BB9's is one of the worst. BB6 and BB5 are the best.

[LukeB]

BB7 made a mistake first week.. they should have cancelled the eviction when Dawn (who apparently had the most votes) was ejected.

[Daniel.]

BB13 cast are too sameyf

[Babayaro.]

But who cares about Bonnie though

[Jack_]

Casts:

6 > 10 > 15 (not sorry :hee:) > 14 > 7

[Daniel.]

Mess.

[Ashley.]

BB7's launch cast is good. but it has way too many duds. BB9's is one of the worst. BB6 and BB5 are the best.

Aisleyne and Susie were good additions. Susie just because she was different from the usual housemate. I didn't find her boring.

[Jason.]

Casts:

6 > 10 > 15 (not sorry :hee:) > 14 > 7

delete it

[LukeB]

But who cares about Bonnie though

I do remember voting to evict her because I loved Glyn and didn't want him to go (it was pointless voting since Bonnie was obviously going) but Bonnie had some potential to be good and she would have stayed if Dawn was still there.

[Jack_]

delete it

:hee:

I'd rather put the ghastly Jack on ignore then read any more of his psycho babble.

bye luv :xyxwave:

[Greg!]

Casts:

6 > 10 > 15 (not sorry :hee:) > 14 > 7

Um the 15 cast was absolutely awful. Almost all of them were marketed as ruthless businesspeople on their and it VTs and it made the launch night boring and the series one of the worst ever

[Daniel.]

Aisleyne and Susie were good additions. Susie just because she was different from the usual housemate. I didn't find her boring.

I found her to be one of the most boring housemates of all time

[Jason.]

Idg how you could like BB15's cast but not like BB13's.

I mean you had your fair share of vile people in BB13 if that's your thing but the rootable people in BB13 were also far better than the rootable people in BB15

[LukeB]

Um the 15 cast was absolutely awful. Almost all of them were marketed as ruthless businesspeople on their and it VTs and it made the launch night boring and the series one of the worst ever

Towie meets the apprentice?

[Ashley.]

But who cares about Bonnie though

Bonnie wouldn't have been any more entertaining if she had stayed in my opinion. She was completely overshadowed by the rest of the cast and would've just fizzled out. The housemates would have probably nominated her the following week for not mixing in with the group/isolating herself so I don't care for her much.

[Lostie!]

Um the 15 cast was absolutely awful. Almost all of them were marketed as ruthless businesspeople on their and it VTs and it made the launch night boring and the series one of the worst ever

The BB15 launch is one of my favourites and still the only C5 launch night to have an atmosphere akin to the C4 days for me.

The Power Trip theme and "ruthless gameplayer housemates" angle could have been brilliant if it was executed half decently. Shame the series went to the pits a few weeks in.

[Daniel.]

I'm so funny

[Greg!]

I found her to be one of the most boring housemates of all time

Her boringness made her entertaining tho if you know what I mean. I loved how in amongst all the arguing and bitching she just asked people if they wanted a cup of tea and talked about ha posh life

[LukeB]

ALSO, I hated Susie picking the nominees because she had public knowledge.

[Ross.]

Casts:

6 > 10 > 15 (not sorry :hee:) > 14 > 7

ily but no

[Jack_]

Um the 15 cast was absolutely awful. Almost all of them were marketed as ruthless businesspeople on their and it VTs and it made the launch night boring and the series one of the worst ever

...I don't actually think that's a bad thing. In fact, more of it plz

The BB15 cast had loads of gems. Ashleigh, Helen, Steven, Toya, Pozza, Mark, Danielle <33333 I even enjoyed people like Biannca, Christopher, Chris and Jale at times

There were only a few duds like Pav, Matthew, Marlon, Winston but even then those last three had their moments. Most of the cast delivered

[Daniel.]

Her boringness made her entertaining tho if you know what I mean. I loved how in amongst all the arguing and bitching she just asked people if they wanted a cup of tea and talked about ha posh life

http://i.imgur.com/g6rXYU8.gif

[Greg!]

The BB15 launch is one of my favourites and still the only C5 launch night to have an atmosphere akin to the C4 days for me.

The Power Trip theme and "ruthless gameplayer housemates" angle could have been brilliant if it was executed half decently. Shame the series went to the pits a few weeks in.

BB15 has the worst launch ever which is why the second launch was about a million down on the first. Almost all the housemate VTs were the same and the atmosphere felt so flat

[LukeB]

BB15 cast was generic with Christopher/Toya only being decent ones.

[Greg!]

http://i.imgur.com/g6rXYU8.gif

nn

[Jason.]

ALSO, I hated Susie picking the nominees because she had public knowledge.

I love Grace but tbf she was widely vilified by the public/viewers at the time, it's plausible that Susie also probably didn't like her.

[Black Dagger]

Queen Susie <3

[Lostie!]

BB15 has the worst launch ever which is why the second launch was about a million down on the first. Almost all the housemate VTs were the same and the atmosphere felt so flat

Yeah I couldn't disagree more. On the other hand, 14 and 16's launches felt flat for me but everyone seems to love those so it's all subjective really.

[Daniel.]

Ashleigh and Danielle > BB16 cast combines

[Jack_]

Idg how you could like BB15's cast but not like BB13's.

I mean you had your fair share of vile people in BB13 if that's your thing but the rootable people in BB13 were also far better than the rootable people in BB15

They may have been more rootable but I found them duller (sorry!) than the rootable people in BB15 so

Like, there's a few I like (in housemates terms) in BB13 but nowhere near as many in BB15

The BB15 launch is one of my favourites and still the only C5 launch night to have an atmosphere akin to the C4 days for me.

The Power Trip theme and "ruthless gameplayer housemates" angle could have been brilliant if it was executed half decently. Shame the series went to the pits a few weeks in.

I obviously don't agree with the last sentence but I do everything else

ily but no

yes

[Babayaro.]

Bye Marlon and Pav were not duds! :hmph:

[Babayaro.]

Two genuine chaps amongst a house full of goblins

[Ashley.]

...I don't actually think that's a bad thing. In fact, more of it plz

The BB15 cast had loads of gems. Ashleigh, Helen, Steven, Toya, Pozza, Mark, Danielle <33333 I even enjoyed people like Biannca, Christopher, Chris and Jale at times

There were only a few duds like Pav, Matthew, Marlon, Winston but even then those last three had their moments. Most of the cast delivered

Helen is not a gem, she's ****ing gravel.

[Lostie!]

Pav :clap1:

I wasn't much of a Marlon fan but I think even he gets a worse rep than he deserves.

[LukeB]

Two genuine chaps amongst a house full of goblins

Gobleigh?

[Jack_]

Bye Marlon and Pav were not duds! :hmph:

Pav is one of the most irrelevant housemates of all time

Marlon was a dullard for most of his time but I excluded him because of the iconic argument he had with Toya, same for Winston <3

[LukeB]

ok that was ****.

[Greg!]

Ashleigh and Danielle > BB16 cast combines

Yas

The rest of the BB15 cast was crap bar Toya and Biannca

[Daniel.]

Pauline was funny :sorry:

[Lostie!]

ok that was ****.

:joker: :joker:

I think Pratez has some serious competition.

[Jack_]

Helen is not a gem, she's ****ing gravel.

As a person yeah

[LukeB]

Toya making Marlon and Ashleigh relevant .. her impact <3

[Greg!]

Mess I forgot about pozza. I liked her until she bullied Jale

[Jason.]

They may have been more rootable but I found them duller (sorry!) than the rootable people in BB15 so


Just cause Deana didn't shout and dealt with her bullies in a calm and classy manner :rolleyes:

[LukeB]

:joker: :joker:

I think Pratez has some serious competition.

:oh:

[Jack_]

:joker: :joker:

I think Pratez has some serious competition.

McCrap and Demanda remain the best nicknames for housemates

[Daniel.]

Deana reminds me of me - classy and controlled when under attack.

[LukeB]

Just cause Deana didn't shout and dealt with her bullies in a calm and classy manner :rolleyes:

Deana is the best C5 housemate by a mile <3

[Jason.]

that was a joke Jack btw not here for your long ass essay

[Jack_]

Just cause Deana didn't shout and dealt with her bullies in a calm and classy manner :rolleyes:

Don't you turn into Luke too

Ashleigh didn't shout either :umm2: nor did Danielle...most of the time

Has nothing to do with that, I just found most of the outsiders (bar Lydia and Chris) seriously dull. I don't care what they're like as people, if I did I'd prefer the BB13 cast to BB15's easily but I don't

[Jack_]

that was a joke Jack btw not here for your long ass essay

:sleep:

[Jason.]

Don't you turn into Luke too

Ashleigh didn't shout either :umm2: nor did Danielle...most of the time

Has nothing to do with that, I just found most of the outsiders (bar Lydia and Chris) seriously dull. I don't care what they're like as people, if I did I'd prefer the BB13 cast to BB15's easily but I don't

Deana was not seriously dull but ok

[Greg!]

Yeah I couldn't disagree more. On the other hand, 14 and 16's launches felt flat for me but everyone seems to love those so it's all subjective really.

Bye the only time BB15 launch atmosphere wasn't flat was at the start and when Pauline was introduced, because she actually had a personality which came across in her VT unlike most of the housemates

[LukeB]

Deana was not seriously dull but ok

Her reactions are iconic
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab306/JSLulz/deana3.gif

[Jack_]

Deana was not seriously dull but ok

Actually I should've included her too oops, that was a mistake

[Ashley.]

Luke A wasn't dull in some weeks

[Jason.]

Deana's an example of someone not getting as much airtime but still being a great HM

And she's the only third place queen to actually make the final for being herself as opposed to having numerous twists and the production in her favour

[Jack_]

It's interesting how you used to claim Deana wasn;t boring but now she is

...actually it's the other way round. I claimed she was boring at the time, it was only near the end of the series and in hindsight I decided she wasn't

[Daniel.]

C5 BB is only worth it because it gave us Deana. Gina and Ashleigh. Imagine how terrible all series' would have been without those three.

[Oaker]

BB13's cast is easily C5's best lol

[Ashley.]

BB13 > BB12 > BB14 > BB15 > BB16 probably

[Daniel.]

13 and 14 :love:

[Lostie!]

C5 BB is only worth it because it gave us Deana. Gina and Ashleigh. Imagine how terrible all series' would have been without those three.

Gina was one of the things I disliked most about BB14. I actually only went back and watched the second half later (I stopped watching at the time) because I knew she didn't win.

My enjoyment would have been much higher without her presence.

[Jack_]

BB13's cast is easily C5's best lol

So overrated

I'd put 14's above it too, some gems in there too and lots of them delivered

Maybe even 16's too? welp idk

[LukeB]

Deana is underrated because she didn't win
http://i48.tinypic.com/if7d50.jpg

[Oaker]

BB16 is actually C5's second best cast imo :shame:

All the females apart from Sarah (even she had her moments) :love:.

[LukeB]

BB16 is actually C5's second best cast imo :shame:

All the females apart from Sarah :love:.

Bye Sarah was great.

[Jason.]

BB16's cast is not better than BB13's.

Like legit 90% of the male HM's in BB16 were duller than Conor and I ****ing loathe Conor both as a HM and as a person.

[Daniel.]

BB14 cast is becoming underrated (it was overrated at the time)

Does anyone remember how much BB14 was loved at the time?

[Headie]

Sarah is the most puzzling overrated C5 HM ever

[LukeB]

Sarah is the most puzzling overrated C5 HM ever

She isn't even rated much everyone slates her :laugh:

Eileen gets more rated than her and she wasn't even that good :sorry:

So it's possibly Eileen thats the most overrated HM from C5.

[Jack_]

BB16's cast is not better than BB13's.

Like legit 90% of the male HM's in BB16 were duller than Conor and I ****ing loathe Conor both as a HM and as a person.

Danny, Jack, Aaron, Marc, Joel > Conor, Adam, Luke A, Luke S, Scott

[Rob!]

Danny, Jack, Aaron, Marc, Joel > Conor, Adam, Luke A, Luke S, Scott

Can't argue with this tbh

[Lostie!]

She isn't even rated much everyone slates her :laugh:

Eileen gets more rated than her and she wasn't even that good :sorry:

I think she was before the Aaron controversy happened, I remember she was really high on most rankings and had a high percentage on the profile favourites, I never got it because I never thought she was anything special from the get-go.

She only seems to be slated more now since having a go at Joel after Aaron was removed, but for me she was always pretty crap. :laugh:

[Oaker]

Um Luke A, Adam and Scott are all good housemates.

[Jason.]

Danny, Jack, Aaron, Marc, Joel > Conor, Adam, Luke A, Luke S, Scott

Adam, Luke A, Scott > any male from BB16

Joel and Marc are two overrated piles of ****. :hee:

[Ashley.]

Adam :bored:

[LukeB]

I think she was before the Aaron controversy happened, I remember she was really high on most rankings and had a high percentage on the profile favourites, I never got it because I never thought she was anything special from the get-go.

She only seems to be slated more now since having a go at Joel after Aaron was removed, but for me she was always pretty crap. :laugh:

She was slated before that though, it was before Adjoas eviction because of the 'showmance' with Danny that didn't even happen and wasn't even a thing.

[Ashley.]

I liked Adam some weeks but he wasn't a good housemate in retrospect.

[Jason.]

And tbh I found Marc more annoying than Conor. :shame:

Conor didn't even annoy me actually, I just find him to be a vile excuse of a human being.

Yeah Marc isn't as vile as Conor, but he certainly was more annoying given he was shoved down our throats for 4 weeks straight and was handed immunity like it was going out of fashion. At least Conor hardly got any airtime.

[zakman440]

(Will leave this interview with the people who made the BB17 ad for anyone who wants to give it a read):

http://www.firedbydesign.com/2016/06/01/gps-delivers-smashing-vfx-big-brother-ident/

[Jack_]

Um Luke A, Adam and Scott are all good housemates.

Adam, Luke A, Scott > any male from BB16

Joel and Marc are two overrated piles of ****. :hee:

no

All the BB16 males I listed brought far more to the series than the BB13 ones did

[Jack.]

BB14 cast is becoming underrated (it was overrated at the time)

Does anyone remember how much BB14 was loved at the time?

BB14 had a great cast :love:

[Daniel.]

Second only to BB13 on C5 for me

[rk3388]

BB13 Wins for best cast:
Deana, Lauren, Benedict, Lydia, Caroline, Becky, Chris and Luke A all delivered.
Shievonne was pretty good too. Although Conor was detestable, at least it was fun to watch their side crumble

[Jack.]

Adam, Luke A, Scott > any male from BB16

Joel and Marc are two overrated piles of ****. :hee:

:umm2: Adam was one of the most boring housemates of BB13, Give me Joel any day of the week over him :laugh:

[Jason.]

no

All the BB16 males I listed brought far more to the series than the BB13 ones did

No they really didn't. But then again your idea of entertaining pretty much consists of who gets the most airtime as opposed to quality. Which is fair enough. Each to their own.

[Lostie!]

She was slated before that though, it was before Adjoas eviction because of the 'showmance' with Danny that didn't even happen and wasn't even a thing.

I'm sure she got some criticism (like everyone) but she was definitely popular early on too.

And the Danny thing was sort of a thing, it never materialised into a full-blown romance but their flirting was tedious and if she stayed longer I've no doubt it would have.

[Jack.]

Can see all agree that BB12 had the worst cast of the C5 era!!

[LukeB]

And tbh I found Marc more annoying than Conor. :shame:

Conor didn't even annoy me actually, I just find him to be a vile excuse of a human being.

Yeah Marc isn't as vile as Conor, but he certainly was more annoying given he was shoved down our throats for 4 weeks straight and was handed immunity like it was going out of fashion. At least Conor hardly got any airtime.

I got bored of Marq after a few episodes not because he was vile it was because he was shoved down our throats like you said and it would not shock me if Big Brother paid him to do all that stuff and act like a knob.

[Headie]

The only good thing I remember about Sarah is her arguing with Cristian on Day 2. Everything else was literally all the stereotypical features of a bad HM e.g. showmance, victim blaming, "doing it for my child" etc

[Oaker]

Well BB12 is the worst cast ever so

[LukeB]

The only good thing I remember about Sarah is her arguing with Cristian on Fay 2. Everything else was literally all the stereotypical features of a bad HM e.g. showmance, victim blaming, "doing it for my child" etc

A showmance that didn't exist/didn't happen

[Jason.]

Idg the Adam hate tbh I found him interesting to watch at times and wtf did Joel even do apart from prance around singing Katy Perry songs and wish Jade got scalded in the bathtub

He was a crap HM and one of the most overrated people to ever enter those doors

[Headie]

A showmance that didn't exist/didn't happen

And yet it dominated the HLs for the first two weeks :whistle:

[Jack.]

Hope we get a house tour this year :love:
sO58gbt4EDs

[Jack_]

738770108085096448

:rolleyes:

[Lostie!]

Hope we get a house tour this year :love:
sO58gbt4EDs

Please :fc:

[Greg!]

738770108085096448

:rolleyes:

Why is he so annoying? He really grinds me gears for some reason

[Headie]

Did BB15 have a house tour? Icr

I know BB16 had a pre recorded one

[Oaker]

Yeah BB15 had a live tour

[Greg!]

The only thing I remeber about the BB16 tour was the Kinga mention

[Jason.]

Did BB15 have a house tour? Icr

I know BB16 had a pre recorded one

Yeah it had one like BB14.

[Jack_]

(Will leave this interview with the people who made the BB17 ad for anyone who wants to give it a read):

http://www.firedbydesign.com/2016/06/01/gps-delivers-smashing-vfx-big-brother-ident/

Interesting! It's weird that Emma and Rylan weren't present for the shoot on the same day :laugh:

[Jack.]

Yeah BB15 had a live tour

If I remember correctly it was really rushed and wasn't as good as the BB14 house tour.

[LukeB]

And yet it dominated the HLs for the first two weeks :whistle:

It didn't dominate the first two weeks though, it wasn't going anywhere and she spent more time with others than Danny :shrug: I just thought it was an excuse to get rid of her to save Adjoa/Eileen who were pretty meh themselves because Adjoa only talked about sex and Eileen was only good for a bit.

[Jason.]

They better have a house tour for BB17. And it better not be just pictures behind Emma on the screen or a pre-recorded one. I want a C4-style /BB14/15 one. I mean they've wasted money and time with the extension the least they could do is dedicate the first ten minutes of the show to show us all.

[LukeB]

They better have a house tour for BB17. And it better not be just pictures behind Emma on the screen or a pre-recorded one. I want a C4-style /BB14/15 one. I mean they've wasted money and time with the extension the least they could do is dedicate the first ten minutes of the show to show us all.

Spam her on twitter

[Jack.]

Rylan is an annoying piece of trash who needs axeing http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/sorry.gif

We all know once Emma quits he'll be presenting the main show :worry:

[Jason.]

CBB13 also had a C4-style house tour too. As did CBB12.

So idk why they've stopped doing them in the last year or so.

[LukeB]

*prays for head to head evictions*

[Lostie!]

If I remember correctly it was really rushed and wasn't as good as the BB14 house tour.

I thought it was great :whistle:

I'm sensing a pattern regarding the BB15 launch :laugh:

[Oaker]

CBB13's house tour was great :flutter:

[Jack_]

Why is he so annoying? He really grinds me gears for some reason

I think it's just the hyperbole and constant teasing that annoys me. Like, I doubt it's actually that amazing (I mean lol I bet it's not even two-storey after all) so it's setting us up for disappointment and I just cba waiting on Rylan and Rylan alone for every bit of news :rolleyes:

This build up has been one of the worst ever

[Oaker]

Emma better stay so Rylan doesn't completely take over

[Black Dagger]

Bye Sarah was great.

... yeah, totally..

[AProducer'sWetDream]

I think it's just the hyperbole and constant teasing that annoys me. Like, I doubt it's actually that amazing (I mean lol I bet it's not even two-storey after all) so it's setting us up for disappointment and I just cba waiting on Rylan and Rylan alone for every bit of news :rolleyes:

This build up has been one of the worst ever

He's probably just talking about the exterior set changes and the BOTS studio...

[Greg!]

Honestly I'd rather civilian BB was axed than have Rylan present the main show

[Greg!]

Is there supposed to be a trailer or something released today??

[Jack_]

He's probably just talking about the exterior set changes and the BOTS studio...

He said on Facebook yesterday he was seeing the house today too

[LukeB]

Emma better stay so Rylan doesn't completely take over

The roof to fall on Rylan?

[Ant.]

The roof to fall on Rylan?

When will Josie?

[LukeB]

When will Josie?

Harsh but :joker:

[RichardG]

Is there supposed to be a trailer or something released today??

yeah i was just about to say... rylan said there was one coming that would 'reveal everything' or something along those lines?? it will be here imminently... :sad:

[reece(:]

She isn't even rated much everyone slates her :laugh:

Eileen gets more rated than her and she wasn't even that good :sorry:

So it's possibly Eileen thats the most overrated HM from C5.

Drag it!

[Jack_]

Does someone wanna draw up the odds that the new trailer will be Marcus screaming 'THE GAME IS CHANGING', 'THE OTHERS ARE COMING!', 'TWO HOUSES WITH LOTS OF CONNECTIONS' and we'll learn nothing new at all?

[LukeB]

Does someone wanna draw up the odds that the new trailer will be Marcus screaming 'THE GAME IS CHANGING', 'THE OTHERS ARE COMING!', 'TWO HOUSES WITH LOTS OF CONNECTIONS' and we'll learn nothing new at all?

IT'S WILL ROCK THE HOUSE FOREVER

icr if that is the line but still.

[Jason.]

Marc is more overrated than both Eileen and Sarah

[Babayaro.]

Gobleigh?
:joker:
that was a joke Jack btw not here for your long ass essay

YOUR one to talk


:hee:

[Jack_]

Sam Kay is the most overrated C5 housemate tbh

[Will.]

Can the promo hurry the **** up

[RichardG]

IT'S WILL ROCK THE HOUSE FOREVER

icr if that is the line but still.

TO THE CORE !!!

[Jack_]

IT'S WILL ROCK THE HOUSE FOREVER

icr if that is the line but still.

'BIG BROTHER WILL DROP A BOMBSHELL!'

:sleep:

[Babayaro.]

Ashleigh is probably the most overrated

[Jason.]

:joker:


YOUR one to talk


:hee:

At least have the right variation of the word YOU'RE highlighting :hmph:

And I only ever do it on the re-watch thread and mine aren't about the same thing over and over again :hee:

[LukeB]

I'm surprised no one said Aaron [BB12] is the most overrated C5 housemate :joker:

[Jason.]

Sam Kay is the most overrated C5 housemate tbh

ok I low-key have forgiven you for your constant errors in the last 3 hours

[Lostie!]

Gobjason causing trouble again.

[Jason.]

I'm surprised no one said Aaron [BB12] is the most overrated C5 housemate :joker:

That's cause only Salv likes him tbf