Eurovision Grand Final discussion thread BBC1 18/05 8pm

[brat.]

poor michael rice that is AWFUL!

[Owen19]

Oh dear

[Denver]

We didnt deserve that

[Ammi]

..oh lord..3 points...

[brat.]

belarus ROBBED

[Calderyon]

UK last place.

[Strictly Jake]

Hahaha haha Germany

[brat.]

AHHHHHHH bye :joker:

[Amy Jade]

Belarus deserved way better!

[thisisdanny]

Germany receiving 0 lmfao

[Smithy]

Welp :laugh3:

[Headie]

UK last even with Germany getting 0 public votes :joker:

[Headie]

Belarus 2nd last tho??? wtf

[Denver]

We didnt come bottom in either vote but ended bottom

[Amy Jade]

Messes Germany on 0 off the public

[reece(:]

SCREAMING

rest in piss UK!

[Twosugars]

Macedonia must win :fc:

[brat.]

belarus deserved WAY better

[Headie]

SCREAMING

rest in piss UK!

"That is SO unfair"

Ddd

[Amy Jade]

Norway :fc:

[Braden]

I'm screaming. This is brutal.

[Amy Jade]

Yesssssssss!

[reece(:]

Nnn zero for Germany

[Adamw92]

Norway :clap1:

[brat.]

200 compared to our 3 :skull:

[Amy Jade]

Queens!

[Strictly Jake]

Well hopefully UK will quit now Europe don't derserve us

[Owen19]

Screaming

[Braden]

I s2g if Iceland don't get, like, 300 points.

[Amy Jade]

Me and Vanessa spending all our pennies

[Denver]

No the Palestine flags

[Strictly Jake]

What are they booing at

[Headie]

Why are they booing I missed it

[brat.]

the boos this is SUCH a mess

[thisisdanny]

Cyprus deserved better

[Amy Jade]

What are they booing at

The flags sis

[Headie]

Cyprus robbed

[Adamw92]

Cyprus robbed

[Denver]

What are they booing at

Why are they booing I missed it

the boos this is SUCH a mess

They had Palestine flags

[brat.]

MALTA ROBBED

[thisisdanny]

20 for Miss Malta? The public are so RUDE

[brat.]

oh fook off

[Strictly Jake]

They had Palestine flags

And I'm not up on politics or geography so I still don't get it

[Amy Jade]

Well st least we know Russia hasn't won?

[brat.]

oop slay swissaland!

[brat.]

MESS

[Amy Jade]

Jeeeeez

[Headie]

That is appalling they were the best

[brat.]

these votes :skull:

[Strictly Jake]

I think Sweden has won

[reece(:]

Nn the close up on Malta

[Amy Jade]

Come on Sweden or Macedonia

[brat.]

oop ah'd settle with an italy win

[brat.]

italy or sweden to win

[thisisdanny]

Nawt looking at the faces, they love torture

[Strictly Jake]

Poor Michael though

[Denver]

Flop please

[brat.]

ffs

[Strictly Jake]

Sweden have this I swear

[Amy Jade]

I hope Netherlands flop. They are the worst of this top 4

[brat.]

sweden to win PERIODT!

[Denver]

What

[Strictly Jake]

Ohhhh

[brat.]

mess

[Amy Jade]

Omg!

[Adamw92]

:laugh2:

[thisisdanny]

Sweden have won for sure

[Amy Jade]

Come on Sweden!

[Strictly Jake]

Come on Sweden

[Headie]

Come on Sweden

[Denver]

Come on Sweden

[Amy Jade]

Sweden :fc:

[brat.]

oooooooooop :worry:

[Adamw92]

Spit it out

[brat.]

stop repeating the same thing and just SAY IT

[Strictly Jake]

Get on with it

[thisisdanny]

253 points lmfao how many times are they going to say this

[Amy Jade]

Abba to perform next year?

[Amy Jade]

Omg shut up!

[brat.]

omg

[Strictly Jake]

Ohhhhh

[Denver]

Fook off

[brat.]

:(

[Denver]

worst winner ever

[Amy Jade]

Wha-

[thisisdanny]

SCREAMING his face was a picture he thought he had it

[Strictly Jake]

93 points?

[Denver]

Axe the public vote

[Owen19]

What a boring winner

[Amy Jade]

What a poor winner.

Ban Nicky91?

[Strictly Jake]

We didn't even vote for North Macedonia

[Amy Jade]

We gave Norway 12!

[Vanessa]

Omg Italy is second! Sooooo happy with that! Woohoo! Well done to the Netherlands :dance:

[Headie]

How tragic

A bunch of ballads next year :rolleyes:

[Braden]

**** yeah, the look on Sweden's face lmao

[DouglasS]

Well deserved.

Norway and Netherlands were my favourites and they were also essentially 1st and 2nd, going by the public vote :love:

[Denver]

Literally does anyone remember his song?

[Strictly Jake]

I mean to be fair that was pretty brutal and entertaining to watch that public vote. But someone please explain the Palestine flag booing

[Strictly Jake]

Is Graham crying about Michael

[reece(:]

Tragic winner

At least I'll be able to hop on the ship over to the NL and attend next year though :fan:

[Liam-]

What a waste of time, such a dull song, so anticlimactic :joker:

[Vanessa]

Italy slayed! Wooooo :dance:

[Wizard.]

When you think Salvador and Netta won with about 700 points! At least I won £20

[Calderyon]

These hosts are brutal.

[Denver]

He seems like the type of guy to slag the show off

[Calderyon]

Very close and entertaining finish, even though the winner was the predicted one.

[Vanessa]

Me and Nicky are top two :joker::hehe:

[Headie]

They weren't even trending on Twitter, clearly pre-hype won

[Strictly Jake]

Well at least our eurovision superfan nicky will be happy imagine him right now

[Headie]

Literally does anyone remember his song?

I have no idea how his tune goes lmao

[Denver]

The dutch seriously cheated somehow i dont believe he topped the votes with a song nobody remembers

[Amy Jade]

Boring winner. Terrible hosts.

Still :love: Eurovision

[Liam-]

A week in Amsterdam isn’t a bad thought

[Strictly Jake]

The news should be on now

[Denver]

Well at least our eurovision superfan nicky will be happy imagine him right now
Such a superfan he never heard of Bucks Fizz

[arista]

Nickys Nation Wins

UK Comes Last

[Vanessa]

I have to go to bed now. I'm soooo happy right now :cheer2:

[Calderyon]

UK to Brexit the Eurovision too?

[Strictly Jake]

Such a superfan he never heard of Bucks Fizz

Ohhhhh :nono:

[Liam-]

Norway and Australia were bloody robbed!

[Amy Jade]

He wasn't playing the piano?

Ffs

[Strictly Jake]

Wait how did this win its like a Coldplay song left on the studio floor

[reece(:]

They weren't even trending on Twitter, clearly pre-hype won

Payola won

[Strictly Jake]

This is crap

[Amy Jade]

Norway and Australia were bloody robbed!

tea

Glad the public vote propelled Norway to 5th though

[Liam-]

How many asses are gonna be in the music videos next year now?

[Headie]

Europe is low-key racist but anyway!

[DouglasS]

The jury voting is ridiculous though, always ruins the vote.

The fact they ranked Norway a tiny amount of points when they were top 2 by the public?

[reece(:]

https://i.redd.it/af6npe9u40z11.jpg

[Vanessa]

So happy for Nicky :dance:

[Amy Jade]

This is like when the guy with the heart condition won all over again

[reece(:]

A week in Amsterdam isn’t a bad thought

Every cloud! :fan:

[DouglasS]

Europe is low-key racist but anyway!

Nah this guy is just a far better singer.. nothing to do with the race

[Strictly Jake]

I mean clearly eurovision has nothing to do with music anymore. Why not just skip the music part and just have countries voting for which country they like best with close ups etc it would be hunger games without the boring music part

[Denver]

North Macedonia was robbed and thats the tetley

[Denver]

Nah this guy is just a far better singer.. nothing to do with the race

He isnt even top 10 best vocalist

[Liam-]

We should be bopping to Spirit in the sky right now

[Strictly Jake]

Off to Bedfordshire then nighty night campers

[Denver]

Like i can guarantee the staging and event will be so dull next year

[Braden]

Norway skyrocketing was the highlight of the voting. There's nothing better than someone doing well with the public vote after doing **** with the jury...unless it's someone doing **** with the public after doing well with the juries.

[Vanessa]

Norway didn't do as well as I expected. Italy completely shocked me. Excellent result!

[sleleen]

ok gals that was the most exciting Eurovision voting EVER, hate the winner lmao but I’m so happy for the results of NM, Australia and Malta’s wasn’t bad and Hatari wtf omg

[Amy Jade]

Norway didn't do as well as I expected. Italy completely shocked me. Excellent result!

imo Norway did the best because the public loved them.

The jury are worth ****.

[DouglasS]

Norway didn't do as well as I expected. Italy completely shocked me. Excellent result!

I think Norway won the public vote, or came second

[Denver]

I am proud of Tamara for getting her country its highest ever placing

[Liam-]

Every cloud! :fan:

TiBB meet-up by the naked windows? :hehe:

[Barry.]

I am proud of Tamara for getting her country its highest ever placing

She did well.

I am ok with the results but 3 for the UK?? It deserves a lot more.

[Barry.]

Oh and 7 for Czech?? Sucks.

[Liam-]

The music ‘experts’ blatantly know nothing lmao

And as much as the song sucked, we definitely didn’t deserve last place

[Denver]

All 3 of our points came from Ireland

[reece(:]

TiBB meet-up by the naked windows? :hehe:

I wouldn't be shocked if most of the members were there coincidentally :fan:

[Headie]

All 3 of our points came from Ireland

:joker:

[sleleen]

Our Tamara wetting herself laughing at her score:love:

[Headie]

All 3 of our points came from Ireland

Where's the full vote details?

[Barry.]

Where's the full vote details?

Not on wiki yet.

[Denver]

Where's the full vote details?

It doesnt say full votes but the app tells you which country voted whi

[Braden]

I'm sorry but we 100% deserved last place. Nothing about Michael, the song, his vocals, etc. was special whatsoever. The only act I think more worthy is Germany, and they did get 0 points sooooo

[Liam-]

I wouldn't be shocked if most of the members were there coincidentally :fan:

Jersey hunting out the best Dutch cooch?

[LaLaLand]

Madonna's voice has GONE. That's all I have to say.

[reece(:]

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[LaLaLand]

I did chuckle at Sweden's face when he came second though, he thought he had it in the bag. Bless him.

[LaLaLand]

Iceland has balls of steel though whipping them Palestine flags out! Good on them though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It says something when the UK entry was worse than Madonna

[Barry.]

Points are up on wiki. Poland almost made the finales.

[Liam-]

I did chuckle at Sweden's face when he came second though, he thought he had it in the bag. Bless him.

Heartbreaking

[reece(:]

The EU graced North Macedonia with all those points because they changed their name for Greece?

[Vanessa]

I have to go to bed. Me and Nicky can celebrate tomorrow :joker:

[Denver]

Because the Belerusian jury was expelled they gave random points which probably wouldnt have had germany higher then us

[Liam-]

Points are up on wiki. Poland almost made the finales.

Link?

[reece(:]

Because the Belerusian jury was expelled they gave random points which probably wouldnt have had germany higher then us
That's why all the flops got points off them? :skull:

[Vanessa]

Sweden thought they won. Their face when Netherlands beat them:joker::hehe:

[reece(:]

Is the winner a gay? :o

[Denver]

Macedonia came 2nd in their semi ahead of Sweden, Swiss, Azerbaijan, Russia

[Denver]

Denmark finished in 10th 1 point ahead of Lithuania

[Liam-]

Is the winner a gay? :o

A bi

[Liam-]

So did Norway win the public vote?

[Liam-]

They did, the jury screwed them over :idc:

[Headie]

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[Denver]

They did, the jury screwed them over :idc:

The fact the winner won having topped neither vote

[Denver]

I wonder if they will ban Iceland

[Calderyon]

Finland getting last place in the semifinal 1.

Pathetic, but deserved result tbh.

[Denver]

There is talk of Iceland being banned for a few years

[Liam-]

The fact the winner won having topped neither vote

A shambles

[sleleen]

I was shaking at Hatari

[sleleen]

Ahhhh still so happy for Taz, best result for her country ever I’m disappointed with d*ncan winning but the mess and excitement of all the results has forgave that

[Denver]

one thing that i confused by is from Hatari performance they come across as gay? so why pledge support that has the death penalty for gays

[Denver]

They did, the jury screwed them over :idc:

Yep, they was refused a 2nd performance after being hit with technical issues then clearly scored down

[Denver]

San Marino came 10th on the televote

[reece(:]

San Marino came 10th on the televote
:love:

[Twosugars]

Macedonia was robbed

[Mitchell]

Gutted they didn’t show Sweden’s Rachel Crow moment in full

[Calderyon]

https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/first-semi-final
https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/second-semi-final
https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/grand-final

[Liam-]

Yep, they was refused a 2nd performance after being hit with technical issues then clearly scored down

Jury needs scrapping

[Headie]

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And I oop-

https://www.instagram.com/hatari_official

[reece(:]

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Welp

[Mystic Mock]

I really enjoyed the show tonight, alot of decent performances of all different types of Music, TXF please take note for the next series.

I also liked how the running order was done, nobody followed each other that were carbon copying each other in style of Music, the prime example being 15th on being Norway then us, and then it was Iceland, all of which were very different to each other in tone and style.

I'm sorry for going on and on.:laugh:

Anyway my rankings of the final performances.

1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Spain
5. San Marino
6. Russia
7. Italy
8. Albania
9. The Netherlands
10. Germany (I actually quite like the song but clearly I'm in the minority lol)
11. Azerbaijan
12. Slovenia
13. France
14. Switzerland
15. Serbia
16. Czech Republic (this grew on me actually)
17. Denmark
18. Malta
19. Sweden
20. Greece
21. Estonia
22. Israel
23. UK
24. North Macedonia
25. Cyprus
26. Belarus

But yeah overall I enjoyed the show, and I do like it when a song that's more understated wins, even if it's not my personal favourite.

[reece(:]

25. Cyprus
26. Belarus


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[Headie]

https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/first-semi-final
https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/second-semi-final
https://eurovision.tv/event/tel-aviv-2019/grand-final

Cyprus nearly missing out on even qualifying for the final.

Europe, are you ok? /Toya

[Headie]

Czech Republic were done dirty by a crap running order </3

[Denver]

Czech Republic were done dirty by a crap running order </3

The UK public hated them which I dont know why when they usually lap up that stuff

[Headie]

The UK public hated them which I dont know why when they usually lap up that stuff

Better than that 1975 nonsense!

[Twosugars]

Well done Iceland though

[Amy Jade]

Norway were actually screwed over.

Such a shame. The public clearly loved them.

[Wizard.]

Norway winning the public vote is the real tea though.

[Wizard.]

Mess to think the UK nearly had Sweden's song but the BBC decided to replace it with Bigger Than Us. Bastards.

[Shaun]

Thoughts...

Semis:
- Belarus beating Poland by 2pts in the semi-final is disgusting :bored: such a trash, generic pop song that robbed one of the year's most original songs.
- San Marino finishing above them and Cyprus though :joker: I assumed they'd be the ones to scrape through.
- Ireland and Austria being the bottom 2 of Semi2 is disgusting too, as is Lithuania narrowly missing out on the final by 1 point.

Final:
- I really thought Serbia would be the surprise ballad contender but it was Macedonia, I guess :shrug: I think it was the best ballad of the night bar Netherlands but... 2nd in the juries? Yikes, Europe.
- Germany somehow getting that much from the juries and NOTHING from the public is highly suspect and I really wish the juries were dead x
- Delighted that Norway beat Sweden even with Sweden finishing top of the jury vote. HUGE gulf in quality between the two.

Overall I can't have too many complaints... Norway, Italy and Switzerland were three of my four favourites and they all landed in the top 5. Iceland finished 10th with an intentionally abrasive song that is way over the heads of the typical gays that attend :love:

The only thing that disgusted me was Russia finishing 3rd. That song was barely in the top 20 of the night.

I do like the Netherlands song but it's not a classic winner. Italy would've been more deserving, at least it's memorable.

[Shaun]

Oh and my rankings...

1 - Iceland - not just for the balls with their flags but... just far and away the most unique thing on Eurovision in a long time, and I'm partial to a bit of industrial rock
2 - Switzerland - biggest banger of the night, could and should enter the charts for being an absolute dance anthem :clap1: also he is ludicrously sexy
3 - Norway - Deserved to win the public vote, such a joyful and catchy song. Half CHVRCHES and half OneRepublic.
4 - Italy - a proper, excellent song that stood out from everything else. A great voice, and an understandable hit in Europe. Hope it charts highly.
5 - Azerbaijan - LOVE the staging with the laser heart beating, and also a pretty great song
6 - Malta - something very weird about it that separated it from the other "wobbly-pop Fuego wannabe" entries this year, stands out
7 - Estonia - Didn't deserve to flop really, enjoyed the staging of it and whilst he was a bit bland as a performer, the song was solid and catchy.
8 - San Marino - A huge amount of fun :love:
9 - Netherlands - it'll take some time to grow on me, but I can't help but think it'd be better if the eerie background instrumentals were amplified.
10 - Cyprus - I loved it the first time I heard it, but with repeated listens it's become pretty boring and repetitive. Ironic given its title.
11 - Sweden - technically a good song but I just found John and his voice a bit... lacking? The backing singers totally upstaged him.
12 - Denmark - adorable but not the best song
13 - Australia - vastly overrated and would be nothing without the staging gimmick. Just found it annoying, really.
14 - North Macedonia - lovely song, didn't deserve to do that well though
15 - Czech Republic - it's KINDA catchy but really not enough... the verses are a bit all over the place and there's no flow to the song at all
16 - Albania - bit of a powerhouse with her voice, stood out a lot but not necessarily for good reasons.
17 - Russia - a pretty bland song with some hysterically OTT staging that just came across as "Sergey really ****ing loves himself".
18 - Israel - the song itself was boring but I felt endeared towards him at the end of it when he started crying, and his voice was great.
19 - Greece - I like her voice and how unusual it is, but this song was just... grating and I got a strong sense she thought she was above this and soooooo artistic.
20 - France - I like Bilal but this was a classic case of "trying to tick all the boxes except "provide a good song".
21 - Spain - just.... your typical Spanish "let's have a party" rambling nonsense
22 - Serbia - I struggle to remember this, tbh
23 - United Kingdom - we didn't deserve anything with this... whatever strengths his voice had were wasted on a poor arrangement and poor timing for when to bust out the big notes :shrug: just a terrible song.
24 - Belarus - completely all over the place, a mess of a song that had potential but just splashed around helplessly
25 - Germany - nothing to this song whatsoever, their voices clashed painfully and they were pretty annoying backstage as well.
26 - Slovenia - just... baffling how this did that well. Completely soulless and pallid.

[joeysteele]

Well done to Netherlands on their win.
44 years since they last did.

Also Italy in 2nd.

Two of the much longer Eurovision entrants taking top 2 places.

Really well done.
That was good to see.

I personally rated Norway and Estonia.
Just loved the performances with not so much overdone in the background.

I'm still humming those 2 songs so would have liked thenm to do better.

It was the best Eurovision for a fair while however but next year.
Please presenters get on with revealing the votes.
It was driving me mad the times they said Sweden needed more than 253 votes.

Great show though.
The atmosphere must be brilliant if you're there.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands best eurovision winner ever, :worship: :worship: :worship:


we made eurovision great again :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Vanessa]

Really amazing show last night, the standard was very high overall. My thoughts.
Norway were brilliant, they had me up and dancing :dance:
Italy the sexiest performance, omg Mahmoud you are the best!
Liked Netherlands, but didn't expect it to win.
Iceland is one that grows on you, performance was so entertaining!
So many hot men to drool over last night :flutter:

[Vanessa]

Netherlands best eurovision winner ever, :worship: :worship: :worship:


we made eurovision great again :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Nicky, we're top two :joker:

[Nicky91]

Nicky, we're top two :joker:

yep, but my own votes went to Israel last night, so i was happy they avoided last place and breaking that host country last place curse too :D


Ziggo dome, ahoy could be good possible venues for next year, but anyway we had this hosting plan since 2014, common linnets was a fave there but got robbed against Conchita ;)

[Beso]

North macadamia. ..what hits.

[Calderyon]

Netherlands best eurovision winner ever, :worship: :worship: :worship:


we made eurovision great again :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Well this was expected.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Iceland with the palestine thing was the biggest disappointment for me

talk about misguided virtue signalling :umm2:

embarrassing

[Crimson Dynamo]

Netherlands best eurovision winner ever, :worship: :worship: :worship:


we made eurovision great again :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

:conf:

you hated it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just got all my food and drink organised for tonight - could be a Dutch win

yep you were right LT


:clap1:

[Black Dagger]

Will definitely be up for Rotterdam or Amsterdam next year after a year at home.

So delighted Norway won the popular vote. Bloody juries.

[Nicky91]

:conf:

you hated it

so what, justice has prevailed :clap2: :clap2: our dutch music superpower winning

[arista]

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tomorrow early morning GMBHD itv
he will be attacking that performance
But there was a additional singer using Vocorder vocals.

[Twosugars]

Congratulations Nicky
I hated the song but you won so well done!

Looking forward to your live commentary from the sunflower patch next year! :D

[Calderyon]

Norway was great, just would have preferred it without the "hoiling".

[Nicky91]

lots of cities here want to host the contest

and it will be a combined production from avrotros, nos, npo :clap2:

[Amy Jade]

Netherlands best eurovision winner ever, :worship: :worship: :worship:


we made eurovision great again :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

Incorrect.

[Saph]

malta was robbed tbh

I was rooting for Macedonia throughout the voting though. The Netherlands song was a bit dull, i'm surprised it won if im honest. When he sung it at the end without the piano and light thing, it was so anti-climatic to the whole show :joker:

[Calderyon]

Was surprised at North Macedonia doing so well. Pity votes?

[Twosugars]

Was surprised at North Macedonia doing so well. Pity votes?

:fist: it was great!

[Twosugars]

lots of cities here want to host the contest

and it will be a combined production from avrotros, nos, npo :clap2:

We want eindhoven :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

some of graham nortons comments last night were comedy gold

[Calderyon]

:fist: it was great!

It was OK.

[Calderyon]

We want eindhoven :dance:

It's most likely going to be Amsterdam.

[Denver]

It's most likely going to be Amsterdam.

Actually it seems its Rotterdam

[Denver]

Can we appreciate Norway being #4 on iTunes, we are ready for a Loreen type smash

[Calderyon]

Actually it seems its Rotterdam

That's good also.

[Crimson Dynamo]

'It's all political': British Eurovision loser Michael Rice's family and fans blame Brexit for humiliating last place finish - without a single vote from Ireland - as the Netherlands romps home with a song that's already been a hit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7046097/Britains-Michael-Rice-comes-Eurovision-former-X-Factor-contestant-scores-just-16-points.html

:hehe:

[Denver]

It's not political because the last winners

Holland
Israel
Portugal
Ukraine
Austria

Dont have major Allies

[Shaun]

We got 3pts from Ireland though... in the televote :p

For all my defences of Eurovision and the mythological bloc-voting there are definitely some that need a shake up:

1) Belarus' jury were apparently dismissed by Eurovision... but their vote still counted to the total? :conf2: they were the ones who voted for literally every of the 10 countries that were last at the time :joker: Idk wtf happened there.
2) Greece/Cyprus need to be sanctioned, their voting statistics are HIGHLY suspect lmao. As of 2018, Greece received a total of 324pts from Cyprus. Their next highest "friend" is Spain... on 119pts :joker: and the other way, Cyprus have taken 283pts from Greece. Their next highest total? Malta and the UK... on 88pts :joker: There's just not enough done about this obvious BS. Usually their songs are strong enough to merit it, or we just turn the other cheek... but it's ridiculous.
3) The Yugoslav bloc is the biggest problem, with Serbia/Montenegro/Macedonia all voting for each other religiously. Kosovo aren't yet a competitor but you can expect them to join in if they can.
4) Similar to the Greek/Cypriot issue, there is a tiresome dependability on Denmark and Sweden trading top marks for each other, but as I said, theirs are usually 2 of the best entries anyway.

Otherwise there isn't really much of an issue... we can't whinge about neighbour voting when we expect points from Ireland and our ex-pats in Australia, Malta and Spain every year. :shrug:

[Denver]

The Belarusian Jurt vote was a made up vote by the organisers

[Twosugars]

We got 3pts from Ireland though... in the televote :p

For all my defences of Eurovision and the mythological bloc-voting there are definitely some that need a shake up:

1) Belarus' jury were apparently dismissed by Eurovision... but their vote still counted to the total? :conf2: they were the ones who voted for literally every of the 10 countries that were last at the time :joker: Idk wtf happened there.
2) Greece/Cyprus need to be sanctioned, their voting statistics are HIGHLY suspect lmao. As of 2018, Greece received a total of 324pts from Cyprus. Their next highest "friend" is Spain... on 119pts :joker: and the other way, Cyprus have taken 283pts from Greece. Their next highest total? Malta and the UK... on 88pts :joker: There's just not enough done about this obvious BS. Usually their songs are strong enough to merit it, or we just turn the other cheek... but it's ridiculous.
3) The Yugoslav bloc is the biggest problem, with Serbia/Montenegro/Macedonia all voting for each other religiously. Kosovo aren't yet a competitor but you can expect them to join in if they can.
4) Similar to the Greek/Cypriot issue, there is a tiresome dependability on Denmark and Sweden trading top marks for each other, but as I said, theirs are usually 2 of the best entries anyway.

Otherwise there isn't really much of an issue... we can't whinge about neighbour voting when we expect points from Ireland and our ex-pats in Australia, Malta and Spain every year. :shrug:

Very true.

I'd create blocks of countries where youd not be allowed to vote on others in the same block as your country.

[Nicky91]

We want eindhoven :dance:

maastricht in limburg also has interest in hosting eurovision contest :)

another chance for the south of us :dance:


i think next year eurovision could feel more special for me, bc its in my own country

[Crimson Dynamo]

LEW-ROVISION Lewis Capaldi urged to enter Eurovision as UK’s 2020 entry with Twitter fans convinced he’d win

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4259835/eurovision-lewis-capaldi-fans-represent-uk-2020-twitter/

[Nicky91]

LEW-ROVISION Lewis Capaldi urged to enter Eurovision as UK’s 2020 entry with Twitter fans convinced he’d win

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4259835/eurovision-lewis-capaldi-fans-represent-uk-2020-twitter/

:laugh2: as if he gets selected by BBC

he has too much artistic freedom, which the BBC doesn't like

[sleleen]

LEW-ROVISION Lewis Capaldi urged to enter Eurovision as UK’s 2020 entry with Twitter fans convinced he’d win

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4259835/eurovision-lewis-capaldi-fans-represent-uk-2020-twitter/

seems like the type to do it actually, but no thanks the uk need to finally send a bop, i’d accept no mid tempo or ballad!

[Nicky91]

seems like the type to do it actually, but no thanks the uk need to finally send a bop, i’d accept no mid tempo or ballad!

it must be a bop then what BBC chooses themselves, not the artist since artists for uk don't have rights for artistic freedom

[brat.]

four of diamonds are coming

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is the type of song that would win it for the UK - we need to be thinking like this

CIgfZeAv7rA

[Nicky91]

This is the type of song that would win it for the UK - we need to be thinking like this

CIgfZeAv7rA

i would never vote for UK :fan:

[TwentyOneThrones]

Ok hi so just some opinions. I loved the Netherlands entry, but didn't think it was win worthy, having said that I'm not against it winning congrats to them.

I honestly think Australia was my favourite and was surprised it didnt even make it into the top 3 I thought it was that good. Other ppl saw differently maybe.

Best message in a song would probably be France or Italy for me.

The BBC did much better on the promotion side before the show itself so I'm glad about that. I accept we cant do anything that well in the show until the Brexit thing gets buried. Fair play to Michael, but also I preferred freaks at the selection show

Iceland and Madonna bringing the obvious issue to the foreground of the show makes me glad it wasnt just swept under the rug.

Overall a good year and I'm gonna try and get to next years show

[Shaun]

Brexit has had no impact on our performance: Lucie Jones literally went the year after the vote with a song called "I Will Never Give Up On You" and still did reasonably well, finishing 15th. Admittedly, we were screwed over by the televote (just 12pts of our 111 total were from the public) but :shrug: this was a strong year (Occidentali's Karma, Amor Pelos Dois, I Can't Go On, Beautiful Mess, City Lights, Hey Mamma!, Yodel It!)

The year after, we really could've capitalised on the sympathy vote with the stage invasion but SuRie had to be a pussy :idc: but otherwise it was a weak song with a basic message. And we've been sending those long before the referendum result.

[TwentyOneThrones]

Brexit has had no impact on our performance: Lucie Jones literally went the year after the vote with a song called "I Will Never Give Up On You" and still did reasonably well, finishing 15th. Admittedly, we were screwed over by the televote (just 12pts of our 111 total were from the public) but :shrug: this was a strong year (Occidentali's Karma, Amor Pelos Dois, I Can't Go On, Beautiful Mess, City Lights, Hey Mamma!, Yodel It!)

The year after, we really could've capitalised on the sympathy vote with the stage invasion but SuRie had to be a pussy :idc: but otherwise it was a weak song with a basic message. And we've been sending those long before the referendum result.

Honestly I forget Brexits been that long bc it's still in the foreground of all of our politics and I was hoping it wouldnt have lasted that long but omg