Strictly 2021 Weekly Discussion Thread

[Vanessa]

Dan is overscored every week.
Are they trying to tell me that Dan was better thanAJ? Nonsense!

[Nicky91]

Dan is overscored every week.
Are they trying to tell me that Dan was better thanAJ? Nonsense!

yet Cynthia gave AJ a standing ovation and not Dan, but her scores said otherwise


:joker:

[Liam-]

Agree...Johannes did most of the dancing as well

AJ was fab

Absolutely, how Cynthia can possibly justify giving AJ an 8 while giving Dan a 9 is actually beyond me, she’s been consistently underscored the entire series

[Mystic Mock]

wrong, John did lead the whole time and he did do a superb job at that


they said so on ITT this week

I think in fairness it was clear that John did the best dance this week.

It doesn't mean people have to change favourites, but he just clearly was ahead of the class this week.

I agree with you Nicky, because personally who are these people saying was better this week? AJ was the second best imo, but there were more errors in her dance than John's, and the other contestants were miles behind this week.

I'd get the complaints more if John was performing at a similar level to the others, but to me personally it's coming across as certain fans are seeing John as a threat to their favourite and are refusing to give him any credit because for some reason there's only two contestants that can be top of the leaderboard it seems, even though one of them ironically scores reasonably high every week even if she's performed badly, so that's ironic.:joker:

To make it more balanced though, John obviously has had plenty of weeks where he hasn't been the best imo, and AJ has shown herself to be the most versatile out of the top six.

[Mystic Mock]

It was a really powerful routine and John in the main led in it.
It was one of the very best Argentine Tango routines I've seen on Strictly.

They've done 3 truly in my view spectacular routines over the weeks.
This one, their Charleston and what remains for me, the best thing I've seen on Strictly ever.
Their Pirates Paso Doble.

I still think and hope it will be John, along with AJ and Rose in the final.

They are the 3 as near perfect pairings there could be in this series.
However, 2 pairings will only be there to make up the final.
As I firmly believe the public, who are the ONLY ones who decides who wins.
They have already decided weeks ago, their winner is going to be Rose this series.

I agree with you, exciting and polished are the words for John and Johannes routine and performance last night.
Totally worthy of the top place on the inconsistent judges leaderboard.

I agree with you for the most part anyway Joey.

I also agree with you on John's three best dances this series.

And fair enough if Rose does win, but it is bizarre to me personally that people will pull Dan up on not being the best dancer, yet they'll vote for someone to win when there are three dancers in the competition that are technically better than her.

I mean I can't talk too much on this issue because I've had quite a few Strictly favourites that aren't technically the best dancer in their series, but I'm not also attacking Dan fans for voting for Dan either.

But I do agree with you Joey that Rose will win because so many people are smitten with her and that's what you've always got to lookout for.

[Nicky91]

Tilly has the american smooth next week

[Strictly Jake]

Tilly has the american smooth next week

Where is the spoiler. Now I know she's through to next week

[Vanessa]

It's not all about the technical ability. You also need for the public to relate to you.
For me she's the complete package.

[Vanessa]

Also, I think Rose is a terrific dancer.
Let's not forget that she's deaf. What she's achieving is nothing short of remarkable.

[joeysteele]

That was great in my view, from ,'Years and Years'.
Really rate Ollie.

[Mystic Mock]

It's not all about the technical ability. You also need for the public to relate to you.
For me she's the complete package.

I get that argument, and personally I don't just champion dancers on based on technical ability alone either.

I just personally find it weird though how most of the fandom seem to be fine with people supporting Rose who isn't technically the best dancer of her year, but apparently it's wrong for people to support Dan, like why is it wrong to support Dan but not anyone else in the competition that's not AJ & John?

I'm not attacking you btw Vanessa as you're not the worst for doing this kinda argument, but I've seen a lot of people go around attacking Dan this series for being voted through because it's "meant to be a dancing competition" but then some (not all) of these same people have been supporting people like Adam, Sara or Tom, plus countless other contestants that weren't or aren't technically the greatest dancers in the competition because these people would be supporting either AJ or John going by that argument.

[Kate!]

I'm appalled that Rhys stayed over Tilly and Nikita.

[joeysteele]

Whatever it is, the public don't care for Rhys.

This is to me why the dance off is ridiculous.
Rhys was far higher on the leaderboard than Tilly.
Tilly was bottom.

The judges already had voted that Rhys was far superior in their view to Tilly in the show.

What on earth is the point of those pairings then having to do that same wretched dance that put them into the bottom 2.
To then have the judges vote twice on the SAME dance they already have done a short time before.

Rhys was much higher on the board than Tilly so it was clear, no matter how many times he's been in the bottom 2 now.
That he would be saved again.

Either do a different dance in the dance off or just decide it on the public vote.
Strip the judges of this ridiculous power they have.

The judges have had Dan in the bottom 3 most weeks.
Dan however has public support to get him through.

I still think the 3 pairings who have the most support are Rose firstly.
Then perhaps with the public a toss up between AJ and John.
However I'd say they are the 3 with the biggest public support.

It's all immaterial however in my view now, this series is much more than likely to be won by Rose.

I hear a lot from my own friends, who keep saying 'who is voting for Dan'.
It doesn't matter who is, he has fairly strong support clearly from the public.
So he clearly entertains those who vote for him.
So good luck to him from me.

If it's a Rhys v Dan dance off next week.
It will be interesting to see if they save Rhys over Dan then.

Really though for me, the dance off in the hands of the judges is what ruins Strictly.
They apply their own bias mostly, in my view.

[Vanessa]

I get that argument, and personally I don't just champion dancers on based on technical ability alone either.

I just personally find it weird though how most of the fandom seem to be fine with people supporting Rose who isn't technically the best dancer of her year, but apparently it's wrong for people to support Dan, like why is it wrong to support Dan but not anyone else in the competition that's not AJ & John?

I'm not attacking you btw Vanessa as you're not the worst for doing this kinda argument, but I've seen a lot of people go around attacking Dan this series for being voted through because it's "meant to be a dancing competition" but then some (not all) of these same people have been supporting people like Adam, Sara or Tom, plus countless other contestants that weren't or aren't technically the greatest dancers in the competition because these people would be supporting either AJ or John going by that argument.
For me Rose is a great dancer. But Dan dancing leaves me cold.
But everyone can support who they like.

[Strictly Jake]

Gutted to lose Tilly!

[Kate!]

Gutted to lose Tilly!

Same. Adored her. She put her heart and soul into every weeks performance. Rhys was wooden.

[Vanessa]

Same. Adored her. She put her heart and soul into every weeks performance. Rhys was wooden.

She did well to get this far.

[Kate!]

She did well to get this far.

Only AJ and Rose are better than her out of those remaining .

[Vanessa]

The fact that they're overscoring Dan every week suggest that he's not as popular as the others.
Except for Rhys.

[Kate!]

My ideal finishing order of the remaining 5

5th John
4th Rhys
3rd Dan
2nd AJ
Winner Rose

[Vanessa]

My ideal finishing order of the remaining 5

5th John
4th Rhys
3rd Dan
2nd AJ
Winner Rose

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.

[Kate!]

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.

Me too Ness.

[joeysteele]

Rose and AJ are definitely popular.
I have wondered if Dan could be the 3rd most popular and not John.


I'm standing by my now long held view that the three with the most public support are A J, John and Rose.

With Rose likely miles ahead of the pack.
I'd guess too no matter what is stated otherwise, the judges have an idea of that too.

If a spoiler can be unearthed to reveal the results beforehand.
I'm sure knowledge of the public voting can be discreetly made known to selected others.

Rhys clearly has little public support for the times he's been in the bottom 2.

For me really any from Rose, AJ or John would be the best winners of this series.
I'm pretty sure it will be Rose.
With AJ and John either in 2nd or 3rd.

However you never know.

I just wish from now, the quarter finals, and semi finals were only decided like the final itself will be, on solely how the public vote.
The judges voting void.

For me, if it is a runaway win for Rose.
As long as I get to see the John and Johannes Paso Doble,( the dance of the series for me in fact),again in the final will please me greatly.

[Cherie]

Gutted for Tllly..if it’s Rhys and AJ next week and they save him ....

[Mystic Mock]

Whatever it is, the public don't care for Rhys.

This is to me why the dance off is ridiculous.
Rhys was far higher on the leaderboard than Tilly.
Tilly was bottom.

The judges already had voted that Rhys was far superior in their view to Tilly in the show.

What on earth is the point of those pairings then having to do that same wretched dance that put them into the bottom 2.
To then have the judges vote twice on the SAME dance they already have done a short time before.

Rhys was much higher on the board than Tilly so it was clear, no matter how many times he's been in the bottom 2 now.
That he would be saved again.

Either do a different dance in the dance off or just decide it on the public vote.
Strip the judges of this ridiculous power they have.

The judges have had Dan in the bottom 3 most weeks.
Dan however has public support to get him through.

I still think the 3 pairings who have the most support are Rose firstly.
Then perhaps with the public a toss up between AJ and John.
However I'd say they are the 3 with the biggest public support.

It's all immaterial however in my view now, this series is much more than likely to be won by Rose.

I hear a lot from my own friends, who keep saying 'who is voting for Dan'.
It doesn't matter who is, he has fairly strong support clearly from the public.
So he clearly entertains those who vote for him.
So good luck to him from me.

If it's a Rhys v Dan dance off next week.
It will be interesting to see if they save Rhys over Dan then.

Really though for me, the dance off in the hands of the judges is what ruins Strictly.
They apply their own bias mostly, in my view.

I agree with your assessments on the contestants.

Tbh in terms of the competition, Rhys & Tilly unfortunately for them have never been competitive in the vote, doing things like forcing them to the top 5/6 is what tends to harm these Shows ratings, I mean who remembers some of TXF's silly decisions?

The public want to watch people that they like in the competition, keeping two people that the public aren't fond of is a dangerous thing to do to your ratings potentially for next series.

And I agree with you that the dance off should be different performances to the night before.

[Nicky91]

my preferred final 3 would be

Rose, John, Dan





Rhys pls eliminated next, 3 dance offs already, next week a 4th dance off is too much hopefully another slow dance for him a rumba or foxtrot

his waltz was sooo overmarked, Shirley giving him a 10, no way that was worth a 10




messy judges comments and scores, well easy to explain, each judge has got own tastes, own opinions



regarding the dance off, i would've saved Tilly based upon the samba being a more technically difficult dance than a waltz and Tilly wasn't bad with samba, shirtless nikita made it look hotter for sure in the DO too, Rhys was not perfect as expected with a simple waltz, but a slower dance is difficult for him and his hyperactive personality (and the fake crying does not help at this point in the competition at all, only if you're called Ore Oduba you can get away with that sadly)




hope Dan got a ballroom now, i hope for the ballroom tango, but Nadiya is absolutely spot on, no matter what dance Dan gives it a 110% of commitment and that on its own is also admirable

[Nicky91]

John with the salsa, NOOOOOOOO i wanted his couples choice :(

good tune though from sister sledge :dance:

[joeysteele]

Oh crumbs, I dislike the Salsa so much.

Sounds like it should be food not a dance.
Samba, Salsa and American Smooth I cannot stand as dances, sorry but I've never liked them at all.

Although another thing I'd strip from Strictly is the Couple's choice.
I'd rather see the set dances please.

I guess it seems I'd near rip up the format of Strictly and re- think it.

Clearing out the judges power, would be the first thing I did.
It's bonkers to hold a dance off, where if the vote is 2-2.
A so called and very inconsistent head judge like Shirley, gets to only decide whose time is over.

Even the X Factor then went back to the public vote to decide that scenario.

[Vanessa]

I think a Charleston like the one Hrvy did would really suit Rose. The La la land inspired one. It was so good!

[Vanessa]

Oh crumbs, I dislike the Salsa so much.

Sounds like it should be food not a dance.
Samba, Salsa and American Smooth I cannot stand as dances, sorry but I've never liked them at all.

Although another thing I'd strip from Strictly is the Couple's choice.
I'd rather see the set dances please.

I guess it seems I'd near rip up the format of Strictly and re- think it.

Clearing out the judges power, would be the first thing I did.
It's bonkers to hold a dance off, where if the vote is 2-2.
A so called and very inconsistent head judge like Shirley, gets to only decide whose time is over.

Even the X Factor then went back to the public vote to decide that scenario.

They will smash it, like they always do.

[joeysteele]

John with the salsa, NOOOOOOOO i wanted his couples choice :(

good tune though from sister sledge :dance:

Yes, I do like that song myself too.

[joeysteele]

They will smash it, like they always do.

I think Vanessa, down to this last 5, they've all done good to get there.

There hasn't been one celebrity this year who I didn't like or not want to do well if they were up to it.

As I said earlier, there's pairings and dances which have hit me strongly for their interpretation and content and even power.

Rose has done some beautiful dances, really beautiful ones and the one where they did the silent segment was really thought provoking.

John and Johannes are my favourite 2nd pairing.
I think the content and power of their routines have been all through incredible.
Plus they delivered the best dance for me all series in that Pirates Paso Doble..
Awesome that was, surely it has to be part of this year's final.
It would be a travesty if it wasn't, in my view.
It was just about matched Saturday with that incredible Argentine Tango done as Craig stated the way one should be done.

Between AJ and Rhys there's little I'd choose between them at times.
They'd be my joint 3rd if it was possible.
A J has delivered strong routines and I think Rhys has been at times unfairly criticised.
I wasn't keen on Rhys at the start but have warned to his enthusiasm in the routines.
I've liked a lot of many of their routines.

Then Dan.
Admittedly not one of my favourites of who is still there after all these weeks.
However.
There's no doubt he's improved over the weeks of Strictly, and he himself would admit he wasn't the strongest of who is left.
He has entertained in his routines no doubt on that.
Which is another big element as to dancing.

So to these last 5 from what around 15.
I just wish the best to now.
They've got through, DESPITE the erratic inconsistencies of the judges comments as to their then voting.

These 5 are now the public's choice.
This series is one of the strongest ever, in my view.
So is highly enjoyable.

Only the judges wreck a part of that enjoyment for me.

However, good luck to all 5.

[Nicky91]

well i cheered so much when Dan got saved first :cheer2:


Dan the Man in the top 5, who could've imagined that pre-week 1 :cheer2:

[Lewismacfarlane]

Dont know if anyone has heard this but poor Amy was in hospital over the weekend



She's now home with Tom and Gi looking after her

[Nicky91]

Dont know if anyone has heard this but poor Amy was in hospital over the weekend



She's now home with Tom and Gi looking after her

yes i've read that too


good she's now back home :) hope she gets well soon and has lots of rest

[Lewismacfarlane]

yes i've read that too


good she's now back home :) hope she gets well soon and has lots of rest

Well she's not home shes moved in with Tom and his wife for a bit




Chrones disease is a horrible thing I know a little bit about it as one of my mates have it

[Mystic Mock]

It's nice of Tom and Giovanna to be helping her out.

[Lewismacfarlane]

It's nice of Tom and Giovanna to be helping her out.

They seem to be a lovely couple

[Mystic Mock]

They seem to be a lovely couple

It's good to see.

[Lewismacfarlane]

It's good to see.

I really hope Amy stays in strictly shes very kind with her partners she's the pro I'd want if I was on the show

[Nicky91]

if i were taking part in this show, pretty sure i would be shoved by producers into the comedy contestant slot :fan:


can already my VT's me begging not to have a disastrous score of 8 like Quentin Wilson :laugh:

[Nicky91]

tonights show only 55 minutes

[joeysteele]

I think maybe a strange show is likely tonight.
With the dances being done, not one I'll enjoy too much I doubt.

Anyhow, good luck to all the 5 who are in the quarter final.

[Kate!]

Didn't rate that much.

[joeysteele]

I really dislike the Salsa so much.
It's a dance, I'd never term one, just my view.

Loved the song.

[Kate!]

Rhys and John should be bottom two tonight I suspect.

[joeysteele]

Well I'm not liking this really either.
It's pretty good to be fair from Rhys but none of the intense power of last week.

[Kate!]

Rhys is gonna be overmarked again I fear.

[joeysteele]

Oh lord.
Motsi is giving me a headache.

[Kate!]

Oh lord.
Motsi is giving me a headache.

:joker: she's over the top

[joeysteele]

I'd have given John a 7.
And Rhys an 8.

[Kate!]

Yep that was well overmarked as I expected :rolleyes:

[joeysteele]

Neither warranted 9s never mind any 10s.

I really dislike how the judges vote, honestly.

[joeysteele]

Oh no, here's another dance I can't bear.
The American Smooth.

Sorry, I should shut up, all I'm doing is moaning.

My Mum's already dropped off to sleep, that's what she thinks of this so far.

[joeysteele]

Rose is lovely but that did nothing for me.
It doesn't matter though, as we're seeing the winner anyway of this series.

[Kate!]

Thats a much better performance than either of the other two we've seen so far tonight. Well done Rose and Gio

[Vanessa]

Omg Rose and Giovanni were brilliant!

[Kate!]

Omg Rose and Giovanni were brilliant!

Love them both so much.

[joeysteele]

What a gross piece of music.
Sounds like a horror movie theme.

[joeysteele]

So far, I'd give Dan and John 7
Rose and Rhys 8.

What's Shirley on about.
Given time Dan will shine .
There's only 2 weeks left.

Now coming another Salsa.
Ugh.

[Kate!]

Dan 7
John 7
Rhys 7
Rose 9
AJ 10

[Kate!]

AJ slayed it

[joeysteele]

Liked the music.
Another 7 I'd give.

[Vanessa]

The ending kind of ruined it for me. I was enjoying it.:shocked:

[Kate!]

Send John home :pipe:

[joeysteele]

Already my placings would be.
1. Rhys and Nancy
2. Rose and Giovanni
3. John and Johannes
4. AJ and Kai
5.Dan and Nadiya.

However.
My votes would be, 8 each to Rhys and Rose.
Then 7 each to John, AJ and Dan.

Wow, however stunned at the judges votes for AJ.

[Vanessa]

Poor AJ. I hate to see her so upset :bawling:

[Cherie]

Bloody hell they glossed over John’s mistake and made a huge deal out of AJ’s

[joeysteele]

Poor AJ. I hate to see her so upset :bawling:

I don't know how anyone can be anything else doing a Salsa.

I can't get Dan's tango music out my head.
What a depressing piece of music that was, awful.

[Kate!]

Bloody hell they glossed over John’s mistake and made a huge deal out of AJ’s

Yeah doesn't surprise me. Favouritism for John is rife.

[joeysteele]

Personally I think, although I like him.
The favouritism is with Rhys.
He's been in the bottom 2, 3 weeks out of 10.
They've saved him over everyone he has been up against.
Tonight they've put him top of the board which means he has the judges 5 points.
So even if he was now bottom of the public vote the 1 point from the public will give him 6.

That would more make it unlikely he could be in the bottom 2 this week.

[Vanessa]

Personally I think, although I like him.
The favouritism is with Rhys.
He's been in the bottom 2, 3 weeks out of 10.
They've saved him over everyone he has been up against.
Tonight they've put him top of the board which means he has the judges 5 points.
So even if he was now bottom of the public vote the 1 point from the public will give him 6.

That would more make it unlikely he could be in the bottom 2 this week.
He's joint top with Rose

[joeysteele]

He's joint top with Rose

You're right Vanessa.
So they both get 5 points from the judges.

John has 3 from the judges.

Dan has 2 and AJ only 1.

It's how the public vote now and then who gets their, 5 then 4 then 3 then 2 and finally 1.
To be added to the judges.

Honestly, I'd just leave everything to the public vote.
Than faff on with that.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Tonight's interesting for me as I feel like I've got my favourite dance of the night, my runner-up dance of the night and who my bottom two dances were on the night, but my middle two are practically a draw with each other.:joker:

Anyway here's my rankings.

1. John & Johannes (+2) - A phenomenal dance from John, it should've been a 40 imo.
2. AJ & Kai (Non-Mover) - There were mistakes in the dance here or there, but overall I thought that she had a technically very advanced routine on the night that was very impressive for the most part imo.
3. Rose & Giovanni (+3) - Not her best dance, but I like the fact that she tried to give a different vibe to one of her dances for a change. Strange Music for the Paso though.
4. Rhys & Nancy (+1) - Again like with Rose I commend him for trying to do something different, but it was only an okay dance for me personally, him and Rose had different problems and strengths in their dances that held them back for me this week.
5. Dan & Nadiya (-4) - It was better than I was expecting from a Dan meets Rumba dance, but he is definitely behind most of the pack at this stage of the competition imo.
6. Tilly & Nikita (-2) - Sadly this dance didn't work for me. In fact I was cringing so hard at certain points of the dance, that I couldn't even look at the screen properly. If she does go through this week then hopefully she'll do better next week.

Okay that was a weird scoring night from the judges.:laugh:

1. Rhys & Nancy (+3) - Personally I don't think that it was a 39 dance, but it was a good effort from Rhys, and it was good to see him push himself.
2. John & Johannes (-1) - Besides the mistake I thought that the dance was fun. A 32 was a really harsh score imo, especially compared to a couple of the other dances on the night.
3. AJ & Kai (-1) - In fairness the dance was a bit messy in parts (even away from the obvious mistake) but bottom of the leaderboard! Really?!
4. Dan & Nadiya (Non-Mover) - He clearly got overscored tonight, to say that he was near John and better than AJ on a technical level is just absurd from the judges.:joker:
5. Rose & Giovanni (-2) - Technically she weren't the worst, but she played it far too safe imo (apart from one move) it was basically like all of her other slow schmaltzy ballroom dances imo. I feel like the judges give her bonus points just for turning up.

[Mystic Mock]

I really hope Amy stays in strictly shes very kind with her partners she's the pro I'd want if I was on the show

Have you heard how she's been doing lately?

[joeysteele]

Good list Mock.
I do love reading your analysis of the routines.

Sadly for me, this was one of, if not THE, poorest of quarter finals.

[Mystic Mock]

Good list Mock.
I do love reading your analysis of the routines.

Sadly for me, this was one of, if not THE, poorest of quarter finals.

Thanks Joey.

And I agree with you about the quarter finals being ropey.

[Vanessa]

1) Rose and Giovanni. Brilliant!
2) Rhys and Nancy. That's the best I've seen Rhys dance. I'm very proud of him!
3) John and Johannes. I actually really enjoyed it. Shane about the ending.
4) AJ and Kai. I was really into it, but the ending kind of ruined it for me.
5) Dan and Nadia. Not great. Taxi!

[Liam-]

Bloody hell they glossed over John’s mistake and made a huge deal out of AJ’s

As I predicted, it’s so obvious who their favourites are it’s ridiculous

[Liam-]

Also can we just talk about Shirley praising Rose for ‘blocking out the clapping and the cheering’ like of course she did, she’s ****ing deaf, she didn’t exactly have a choice

[joeysteele]

Also can we just talk about Shirley praising Rose for ‘blocking out the clapping and the cheering’ like of course she did, she’s ****ing deaf, she didn’t exactly have a choice

Oh gosh yes.
Thanks for raising that.

That one went over my head.
Indeed, what on earth was she thinking.
At the least insensitive in my view.

[Mystic Mock]

As I predicted, it’s so obvious who their favourites are it’s ridiculous

Tbf John has done better than AJ the last two weeks imo.

The bigger question is how Dan's above AJ.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Also can we just talk about Shirley praising Rose for ‘blocking out the clapping and the cheering’ like of course she did, she’s ****ing deaf, she didn’t exactly have a choice

I missed that comment.

If Shirley's said that then that's awful.

I'm sure she didn't mean any malice with the comment in fairness, it was probably a slip of the tongue.

[jet]

1) Rose and Giovanni. Brilliant!
2) Rhys and Nancy. That's the best I've seen Rhys dance. I'm very proud of him!
3) John and Johannes. I actually really enjoyed it. Shane about the ending.
4) AJ and Kai. I was really into it, but the ending kind of ruined it for me.
5) Dan and Nadia. Not great. Taxi!

Same.
I'm probably just being lazy, but no need for me to post as you've said it all for me here. Thanks! :hee:

[Nicky91]

John & Johannes: lots of good salsa basic content, the lifts bit hit and miss, one earlier lift went quite well, shame the lift at the end didn't go well but that was JoJo's fault not John, so not gonna penalize for that, this was decent 9

Rhys & Nancy: i disagree with the judges, clearly a desperate attempt from them to keep him out of the dance off, i already knew it how this song wouldn't work, and it lacked something for me, sometimes traditional music is the only best music for tango 6

Rose & Giovanni: that one lift first of all, RESPECT for you Rose, that is brave, very brave, but other than that a proper danced oldschool ballroom, wow perfection, simply perfection 10

Dan & Nadiya: great efforts at a classic tango for a complete non-dancer, very convincing acting work too for a non-actor, i loved this a lot, Go TeamWalkova 9

AJ & Kai: the lifts weren't the only bad thing, i am afraid, whole thing lacked hip action, very wooden and i agree with Craig also flat footed, wasn't dynamic at all, not your finest hour sadly, and avoiding the dance off is going to be hard, only way is to top the public votes but can she do that, we'll see tonight 3

[Nicky91]

great show last night



great opening number either, love that celine version too a lot of ''its all coming back to me now'' :love:

[Nicky91]

tonight THE RETURN OF ASTON MERRYGOLD alongside JLS in results show

:D

[Nicky91]

So far, I'd give Dan and John 7
Rose and Rhys 8.

What's Shirley on about.
Given time Dan will shine .
There's only 2 weeks left.

Now coming another Salsa.
Ugh.

only 2 weeks, a lot can still happen in these 2 weeks though


what do you know anyway :idc:

[joeysteele]

only 2 weeks, a lot can still happen in these 2 weeks though


what do you know anyway :idc:

For crying out loud, you're becoming near impossible!!.
No need for nastiness Nicky, honestly you need to curb that nasty element to your posting when talking to others.

I know possibly as much as you or anyone else who watches this show who aren't professionally involved in dancing, actually anyhow we are ALL just giving our opinions.

Anyway, admittedly 2 weeks can be a fair time but what he hasn't learned in 11 weeks I doubt will be forthcoming in only the next 2.
Had she said that 4 or 5 weeks ago it would have more relevance.
It's not the only daft thing Shirley said last night either.

[Nicky91]

For crying out loud, you're becoming near impossible!!.
No need for nastiness Nicky, honestly you need to curb that nasty element to your posting when talking to others.

I know possibly as much as you or anyone else who watches this show who aren't professionally involved in dancing, actually anyhow we are ALL just giving our opinions.

Anyway, admittedly 2 weeks can be a fair time but what he hasn't learned in 11 weeks I doubt will be forthcoming in only the next 2.
Had she said that 4 or 5 weeks ago it would have more relevance.
It's not the only daft thing Shirley said last night either.

sorry

but it just seems like our opinions are complete polar opposites


i found this quarter final very strong


Rose had the best performance, i mean that lift was out of this world, definitely a leap of faith, could've gone wrong big time but it went perfect, shows how much these two trust each other

Rhys very overmarked in a desperate attempt of keeping him out of the dance off, well i hope he still is in the dance off, vs AJ hopefully, sorry for AJ but that shall teach those judges from overmarking the unpopular ones, 3 dance offs proves your nothing to the GBP


Dan has been improving constantly, and this was a good traditional tango, great even for his standards, and yes i scored him a 9 because he deserves to after all his hard work all these weeks to keep upping his game and doing Nadiya proud


John had the better of the Salsa's for sure because of lesser lifts and more dance content, and great hip action


AJ had non-existent hip action it felt like to me, quite wooden, and those lifts well if something is too difficult don't put it into the routine, less is really more, and those faulty lifts made her dance even worse than it already was as well, very much a DANCE DISASTER like Craig said




and judging by the leaderboard

Rhys 5
Rose 5
John 4
Dan 3
AJ 2


AJ needed to top public vote to survive, no other option than that

Dan has enough at second place in public vote, and over the weeks he has proven to have quite the fanbase so possible i guess

John needs 3 to survive


even Rose & Rhys could both be in the dance off, if Rose has 2 (since public vote is the deciding factor at a tie in the end) and Rhys of course with 1, i think he all the last weeks when in the dance off also had lowest public vote



so tonights results will be most exciting of the entire series so far

[joeysteele]

sorry

but it just seems like our opinions are complete polar opposites


i found this quarter final very strong


Rose had the best performance, i mean that lift was out of this world, definitely a leap of faith, could've gone wrong big time but it went perfect, shows how much these two trust each other

Rhys very overmarked in a desperate attempt of keeping him out of the dance off, well i hope he still is in the dance off, vs AJ hopefully, sorry for AJ but that shall teach those judges from overmarking the unpopular ones, 3 dance offs proves your nothing to the GBP


Dan has been improving constantly, and this was a good traditional tango, great even for his standards, and yes i scored him a 9 because he deserves to after all his hard work all these weeks to keep upping his game and doing Nadiya proud


John had the better of the Salsa's for sure because of lesser lifts and more dance content, and great hip action


AJ had non-existent hip action it felt like to me, quite wooden, and those lifts well if something is too difficult don't put it into the routine, less is really more, and those faulty lifts made her dance even worse than it already was as well, very much a DANCE DISASTER like Craig said




and judging by the leaderboard

Rhys 5
Rose 5
John 4
Dan 3
AJ 2


AJ needed to top public vote to survive, no other option than that

Dan has enough at second place in public vote, and over the weeks he has proven to have quite the fanbase so possible i guess

John needs 3 to survive


even Rose & Rhys could both be in the dance off, if Rose has 2 (since public vote is the deciding factor at a tie in the end) and Rhys of course with 1, i think he all the last weeks when in the dance off also had lowest public vote



so tonights results will be most exciting of the entire series so far

That's fine Nicky and thank you for the apology.
There wasn't a need for an apology.

People don't like the same dances then people don't like the same music or films.
It doesn't mean throwing insults out are warranted.

I'm at polar opposites with my greatest friend on here Mock re Dan, he and I don't question each others knowledge.

I'm at odds with others who intensely seem to dislike John whereas I do.
I'm not telling them they know nothing.

I find your comments on Strictly interesting even the ones I may disagree with.
However I wouldn't tell you, you know nothing, or say what do you know anyway.

We have different favourites and different likes of dances.
That's all.
No need for creating any divisive unpleasantness.

Have a good Sunday and week Nicky.
Thank you again.

[Vanessa]

John & Johannes: lots of good salsa basic content, the lifts bit hit and miss, one earlier lift went quite well, shame the lift at the end didn't go well but that was JoJo's fault not John, so not gonna penalize for that, this was decent 9

Rhys & Nancy: i disagree with the judges, clearly a desperate attempt from them to keep him out of the dance off, i already knew it how this song wouldn't work, and it lacked something for me, sometimes traditional music is the only best music for tango 6

Rose & Giovanni: that one lift first of all, RESPECT for you Rose, that is brave, very brave, but other than that a proper danced oldschool ballroom, wow perfection, simply perfection 10

Dan & Nadiya: great efforts at a classic tango for a complete non-dancer, very convincing acting work too for a non-actor, i loved this a lot, Go TeamWalkova 9

AJ & Kai: the lifts weren't the only bad thing, i am afraid, whole thing lacked hip action, very wooden and i agree with Craig also flat footed, wasn't dynamic at all, not your finest hour sadly, and avoiding the dance off is going to be hard, only way is to top the public votes but can she do that, we'll see tonight 3

I thought Rhys was brilliant. But I didn't like that song for the dance. The at needs traditional music.

[Beso]

Just nail the lift st the end AJ, and you will be ok.

[joeysteele]

Oh gosh, that awful bit of music of Dan's dance again.
It's a depressing bit of music is that.
In my view anyhow.

[Vanessa]

Rose and Giovanni have Argentine tango next week! Omg I'm so excited. It's my favourite dance!

[Beso]

AJ got very lucky, Dand danced superbly at the end there. I found AJ slow looking.

[Vanessa]

AJ got very lucky, Dand danced superbly at the end there. I found AJ slow looking.

I hope she gets to the final. I think she deserves it.

[joeysteele]

I'm not bothered now really who goes through.
The certain one is Rose who will be through and also who will win too.
I can't see her being beaten in the final.

For the Pirates Paso Doble alone I'd like to see John through as I'd love to see that again in the final.
I consider it the best routine and dance over this whole series.

Then for me any from AJ and Rhys to be there too.

It really doesn't matter now as I think all left are just going through the motions of making up the numbers.

It will be Rose who wins.
I know no one who I know is watching Strictly who aren't voting for her, and heavily so too.

All have done brilliantly to get to the semi finals anyway.
Well done to every pairing who have.
Well deserved and hard fought for.

[Vanessa]

I'm not bothered now really who goes through.
The certain one is Rose who will be through and also who will win too.
I can't see her being beaten in the final.

For the Pirates Paso Doble alone I'd like to see John through as I'd love to see that again in the final.
I consider it the best routine and dance over this whole series.

Then for me any from AJ and Rhys to be there too.

It really doesn't matter now as I think all left are just going through the motions of making up the numbers.

It will be Rose who wins.
I know no one who I know is watching Strictly who aren't voting for her, and heavily so too.

All have done brilliantly to get to the semi finals anyway.
Well done to every pairing who have.
Well deserved and hard fought for.
Yes, I'd love to see that paso again

[Lewismacfarlane]

Oti Giovanni and Amy will leave this year I think

[jet]

It was Dan's time to go, the best dancers are in the semi final.
I would like Rose to win, and if not, John. Imo those 2 have produced the best and most memorable dances throughout the series and i have loved the partnerships they have with their pros.

[Mystic Mock]

That's fine Nicky and thank you for the apology.
There wasn't a need for an apology.

People don't like the same dances then people don't like the same music or films.
It doesn't mean throwing insults out are warranted.

I'm at polar opposites with my greatest friend on here Mock re Dan, he and I don't question each others knowledge.

I'm at odds with others who intensely seem to dislike John whereas I do.
I'm not telling them they know nothing.

I find your comments on Strictly interesting even the ones I may disagree with.
However I wouldn't tell you, you know nothing, or say what do you know anyway.

We have different favourites and different likes of dances.
That's all.
No need for creating any divisive unpleasantness.

Have a good Sunday and week Nicky.
Thank you again.

I agree with your post Joey.

I just want to add that I get people being passionate about their favourites, but some people do also need to chill out about the Show too imo.

That is not a dig at Nicky btw, I've just noticed across the Internet where there have been discussions about this series of Strictly and people are getting really personal not just with each other, but also on the contestants which is just uncalled for given that it's just a dancing competition.

[Mystic Mock]

Rose and Giovanni have Argentine tango next week! Omg I'm so excited. It's my favourite dance!

I'm looking forward to it too.

Hopefully I can finally love a Rose dance.:fc:

[Strictly Jake]

I was so scared for AJ. Glad she made it through. It's hard to say which 3 are gonna be in the final now. I think Rose and Giovanni and John and Johannes will be in the final but it will be a toss up between AJ and Rhys as to who the other one is.

[Nicky91]

I was so scared for AJ. Glad she made it through. It's hard to say which 3 are gonna be in the final now. I think Rose and Giovanni and John and Johannes will be in the final but it will be a toss up between AJ and Rhys as to who the other one is.

Dan was better than AJ in the dance off


and AJ changed her routine which is against the rules :idc: cheating cowards those AJ & Kai

[Vanessa]

Rose and Giovanni dances:

Argentine tango to A Evaristo Carriego by Edoardo Rovira
Waltz to How long will I love you, Ellie Goulding

[Vanessa]

John has :
Jive to Higher power, Coldplay
Couples choice : Homeroom glory, Adele

[Strictly Jake]

Aw that means we won't be able to see Rose do a Charleston. Having said that I'd imagine that been pretty tough to do when you can't hear the music

[Vanessa]

Aw that means we won't be able to see Rose do a Charleston. Having said that I'd imagine that been pretty tough to do when you can't hear the music

Yes, she wouldn't be able to to do the side by side parts.

[Vanessa]

AJ has the rumba and quickstep.
Quickstep to Sing sing sing. Omg I love that song!

[Vanessa]

Rhys has samba and tango.

[joeysteele]

Out of 8 dances this weekend only one I don't like as a dance, that's the Samba.
Although I don't see the point of the couples choice either to be honest.

[Nicky91]

AJ and Kai: Rumba to Show Me Heaven by Maria McKee and Quickstep to Sing, Sing, Sing by Benny Goodman
Rose and Giovanni: Argentine Tango to A Evaristo Carriego by Eduardo Rovira and Waltz to How Long Will I Love You by Ellie Goulding
John and Johannes: Jive to Higher Power by Coldplay and Couple's Choice to Hometown Glory by Adele
Rhys and Nancy: Samba to It Had Better Be Tonight (Meglio Stasera) by Michael Bublé and Tango to One Vision by Queen

https://twitter.com/bbcstrictly/status/1469606220399104003

[Nicky91]

Pfs4k-SCbn8

still my fave ballroom routine ever, shame Anya only got to do one series :bawling: she was fab

[joeysteele]

Really for me, Rose has this won I believe.

This semi final of 4 pairings left are ONLY making up the numbers.

They've all done brilliantly to get here in admittedly one of the strongest ever series of Strictly for talented dancers.

Whoever goes tonight, there's no shame,no matter who it may be.
It's something sadly at this stage, the Judges CAN sort of engineer who is in the final now by their erratic voting.

So good luck to whoever gets into the final too.

To the professional dancers, to the celebrities all through this series I'd award a specially made award to them all for their efforts and entertainment.

Only one set of people have ruined this series for me and that's the judges, every single one of them due to their inconsistent comments and selective voting.

[Nicky91]

this judges panel is more inconsistent than in germany


Jorge, Motsi, Llambi is better matched to each other, and tbh Llambi is a 100000% worse Craig :hehe:


Jorge is like Bruno but more genuinely fun and nothing scripted or fake showy


Motsi is exactly the same there as she is on here

[joeysteele]

Was pretty good.

[Vanessa]

That was a great song for a tango.

[joeysteele]

That was a great song for a tango.

Definitely a great song.

[joeysteele]

That was good from AJ.

[Vanessa]

This is definitely worthy of a 40

[joeysteele]

Not sure what to make of that at the moment.

[Kate!]

Aj absolutely slayed with Kai there. They ripped up the dancefloor.

[Kazanne]

Rose makes me emotional,love her and Giovanna

[Vanessa]

That was beautiful from Rowse

[joeysteele]

Though it was one of Rose's weakest but still really beautiful to watch.

[Kate!]

Rose makes me emotional,love her and Giovanna

This. Was just gonna post and say similar thoughts. I.have tears in my eyes.

[joeysteele]

Oh no here comes another Samba.
I really dislike Samba's.
I hope there's none in the final, please.

[Vanessa]

Rose is hilarious :joker:🤣

[Kate!]

Rose is hilarious :joker:🤣

She is yes. And so sweet and beautiful as a dancer.

Win win win!

[Kate!]

:joker: did anyone catch Craigs comment to Motsi. Lol. He called her Diana Ross cos of her hair.

[joeysteele]

I can't really judge Samba's, I'm too biased against the dance.
He did pile energy in it however.

[Vanessa]

:joker: did anyone catch Craigs comment to Motsi. Lol. He called her Diana Ross cos of her hair.

He hair gets bigger and bigger every week :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Love this song.

[joeysteele]

Nice one, loved that.

[Kate!]

That was so beautiful tens please

[joeysteele]

A useless song for a jive.

[Kate!]

Wow

I loved that even though I'm hardly a John fan. But that was superb. It has to be Rhys that doesn't make the final imo.

[joeysteele]

Wow

I loved that even though I'm hardly a John fan. But that was superb. It has to be Rhys that doesn't make the final imo.

Did you think the song worked Kate.
I liked the dance but the song, oh dear.

[joeysteele]

Excellent.

[Kate!]

Did you think the song worked Kate.
I liked the dance but the song, oh dear.

Thing is I love the song so that helps Joey. At least he didn't top the leaderboard off the back of it. However I thought it was exciting. I want AJ and Rose in the final no matter what but putting any personal dislike for John to one side I think he outperformed Rhys wholeheartedly tonight and especially with Rhys being in the bottom two so often he should be the one to go.

Let us pray. Lol.

[Kazanne]

I really hope Rose wins after that dance.

[Kate!]

Excellent.

True

[Vanessa]

Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

[joeysteele]

I really hope Rose wins after that dance.

She has this won I think Kazanne.

There are loads I know who are voting heavily for her week after week.

I think she's miles ahead of the others with the public.

[Kazanne]

She has this won I think Kazanne.

There are loads I know who are voting heavily for her week after week.

I think she's miles ahead of the others with the public.

I hope so Joey I think she deserves it ,not just because of her disability she just seems such a lovely,humble girl and a great dancer. I have a sneaky feeling the two guys might win it,but fingers crossed for Rose,I will be voting for her .:wavey:

[joeysteele]

I hope so Joey I think she deserves it ,not just because of her disability she just seems such a lovely,humble girl and a great dancer. I have a sneaky feeling the two guys might win it,but fingers crossed for Rose,I will be voting for her .:wavey:

I think she's had it won since week 7 Kazanne.
I really like her too.

[joeysteele]

They were all really good.
So I'm doing my final placings in line with my hopes for the final.

So.
1. Rose and Giovanni, ( they've won this in my opinion hands down with the public).
2. John and Johannes, the song for the Jive, I liked the song but not for a Jive.
Watching again their Couple choice.
It was very intense and moving).

3. AJ and Kai, (strong performance, she was really good).
4. Rhys and Nancy, ( he piled effort into both his dances but sadly I had to have a last place).

Whoever is in the final however with Rose.
One of them will obviously be 2nd and the other 3rd.

Rose I firmly believe has had this won already for weeks with the public.
The people I know who watch this who are voting heavily for her, is just about all of them.
Good luck to them all.
Apart from the judges, this has been one of the strongest ever series in my view.

[Beastie]

AJ and Rose for the final!

Think Rhys will be going.

[Mystic Mock]

Okay that was a weird scoring night from the judges.:laugh:

1. Rhys & Nancy (+3) - Personally I don't think that it was a 39 dance, but it was a good effort from Rhys, and it was good to see him push himself.
2. John & Johannes (-1) - Besides the mistake I thought that the dance was fun. A 32 was a really harsh score imo, especially compared to a couple of the other dances on the night.
3. AJ & Kai (-1) - In fairness the dance was a bit messy in parts (even away from the obvious mistake) but bottom of the leaderboard! Really?!
4. Dan & Nadiya (Non-Mover) - He clearly got overscored tonight, to say that he was near John and better than AJ on a technical level is just absurd from the judges.:joker:
5. Rose & Giovanni (-2) - Technically she weren't the worst, but she played it far too safe imo (apart from one move) it was basically like all of her other slow schmaltzy ballroom dances imo. I feel like the judges give her bonus points just for turning up.

Again a lot of overscoring tonight from the judges imo, but that has been happening all series I suppose.

My rankings anyway.

First Round of performances:
1. AJ & Kai (+2) - Technically a strong Quickstep, I'm not sure about it being a 40 though.
2. John & Johannes (Non-Mover)
3. Rhys & Nancy (-2)
4. Rose & Giovanni (Non-Mover)

Second Round of performances:
1. Rose & Giovanni (+3) - Fair play to Rose this was a strong performance, again I don't know about it being a 40 dance (personally I felt like John & AJ had better AT's) but it was much better than practically all of her previous performances imo.
2. AJ & Kai (-1)
3. Rhys & Nancy (Non-Mover)
4. John & Johannes (-2) - I normally like John's dances and normally defend him on here, but to me I couldn't get around the Coldplay Music being in a Jive. I know that it's a stupid reason to dislike a dance, but it took my attention away from his performance which is a bad thing to have happen imo.

[Vanessa]

Rose has had plenty of strong dances.
The tango, Viennese waltz, foxtrot, couples choice and now the AT to name a few.
I think she's a star and she'll always have my vote.

[joeysteele]

Again a lot of overscoring tonight from the judges imo, but that has been happening all series I suppose.

My rankings anyway.

First Round of performances:
1. AJ & Kai (+2) - Technically a strong Quickstep, I'm not sure about it being a 40 though.
2. John & Johannes (Non-Mover)
3. Rhys & Nancy (-2)
4. Rose & Giovanni (Non-Mover)

Second Round of performances:
1. Rose & Giovanni (+3) - Fair play to Rose this was a strong performance, again I don't know about it being a 40 dance (personally I felt like John & AJ had better AT's) but it was much better than practically all of her previous performances imo.
2. AJ & Kai (-1)
3. Rhys & Nancy (Non-Mover)
4. John & Johannes (-2) - I normally like John's dances and normally defend him on here, but to me I couldn't get around the Coldplay Music being in a Jive. I know that it's a stupid reason to dislike a dance, but it took my attention away from his performance which is a bad thing to have happen imo.

I agree Mock on the Jive song.
I liked John's Jive however the song did detract attention from it.
I liked the song but not as a Jive track.

I get where you're coming from on a bad choice of music in relation to the dance.

It happened to me with Dan one week, he had awful music in my view, which clouded the dance all through.

[Liam-]

Jesus, the girls killed it tonight, both of AJ’s dances were divine and she should have got 80 and Rose’s tango was incredible, I didn’t like any of the men’s dances at all

[Mystic Mock]

Rose has had plenty of strong dances.
The tango, Viennese waltz, foxtrot, couples choice and now the AT to name a few.
I think she's a star and she'll always have my vote.

Fair enough.

I personally feel like her Tango has to be one of the most overscored dances of the series away from Sara's catalogue.

[Mystic Mock]

I agree Mock on the Jive song.
I liked John's Jive however the song did detract attention from it.
I liked the song but not as a Jive track.

I get where you're coming from on a bad choice of music in relation to the dance.

It happened to me with Dan one week, he had awful music in my view, which clouded the dance all through.

Yeah I felt like John danced it well enough, but we both agree that Music does elevate a performance, if the song is flat out bad or like tonight for John where the song is decent but isn't suitable for the dance it can kinda nuke the performance.

I'm gathering you're talking about Dan's Tango btw? Because I remember feeling like the song was a bit weird for a Tango.

[jet]

Imo Rose’s argentine tango was the only dance worthy of 4 tens tonight. The judges are 10 crazy this season, 10’s should be reserved for outstanding performances only and they have been throwing them around like confetti.

[jet]

I was rather disappointed with my second fav John's dances. I was expecting an amazing couples choice but it didn't wow me at all. AJ is placed 2nd for me tonight, loved her rumba.

[Mystic Mock]

Imo Rose’s argentine tango was the only dance worthy of 4 tens tonight. The judges are 10 crazy this season, 10’s should be reserved for outstanding performances only and they have been throwing them around like confetti.

I agree, the judges are supposed to be harsh on the contestants yet 10's are being handed out like they're candy.

[Nicky91]

Imo Rose’s argentine tango was the only dance worthy of 4 tens tonight. The judges are 10 crazy this season, 10’s should be reserved for outstanding performances only and they have been throwing them around like confetti.

I agree, the judges are supposed to be harsh on the contestants yet 10's are being handed out like they're candy.

only seems to happen on this show :joker::joker::joker:


if Motsi likes your performance it means you are a good entertainer, that is mainly what she also looks at besides technique, also on lets dance


a 10 from Llambi there means more than a 10 from Craig :laugh3: and he doesn't easily give those, easier to get 2's or 3's or even 1's from him

[Beastie]

The only critism is that Rose has not done dances like The Jive and Charslton. However her last dance last night was the dance of the series.

I do love AJ and I hope she keeps dancing after the show. She deserves a good TV presenter role. So much talent. She's so down to earth when she said she had to go back to a call centre job after her big brothers bit on the side stint.

[Nicky91]

Round 1

Rhys & Nancy: wow, i am impressed at his solo intro, staccato throughout, great tango and for me it helps it is a queen song, one of my fave queen songs 10

AJ & Kai: is it a perfect quickstep, probably but i found it a bit boring, not my cup of tea though but good 8

John & Johannes: this is on par with Nicolas & Vadim's contemporary for me, simply breathtakingly gorgeous, performances like these are reason why i like contemporary dancing so much, phenomenal 10

Rose & Giovanni: was scared since this song choice i have high expectations with since it is Robert Herjavec & Kym Johnson's waltz song and how impactful that routine now for me is because of them being married after their DWTS journey, but this was simplistic, typical bit of ballroom heaven wow 10
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Round 2

Rhys & Nancy: good samba routine, great hip action, also nice controlled performance nothing too hyperactive, you're progressing so well lately well done 9

AJ & Kai: very sensual rumba indeed, i don't usually always love a rumba but this was very lovely to watch 10

John & Johannes: i told you so that this song would work for a Jive, i know everything better, kicks and flicks were as tight and clean as they should be, this was perfect 10

Rose & Giovanni: i am speechless, this was brilliant, i couldn't tell who the pro was in this routine, looked like a argentine tango demonstration by two world champion pro's, this was divine and agree with motsi, the dance of the series by far 11

[joeysteele]

Yeah I felt like John danced it well enough, but we both agree that Music does elevate a performance, if the song is flat out bad or like tonight for John where the song is decent but isn't suitable for the dance it can kinda nuke the performance.

I'm gathering you're talking about Dan's Tango btw? Because I remember feeling like the song was a bit weird for a Tango.

Yes Mock that was Dan's dance I meant.
The music was to me horrendous, like something from a horror movie.

Really took my mind away from the whole dance.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes Mock that was Dan's dance I meant.
The music was to me horrendous, like something from a horror movie.

Really took my mind away from the whole dance.

You have a point about the Music, it sounded like something from A Nightmare On Elm Street.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

only seems to happen on this show :joker::joker::joker:


if Motsi likes your performance it means you are a good entertainer, that is mainly what she also looks at besides technique, also on lets dance


a 10 from Llambi there means more than a 10 from Craig :laugh3: and he doesn't easily give those, easier to get 2's or 3's or even 1's from him

Llambi sounds like a good judge as they're supposed to be harsh.

The problem with last night for me was that every dance was overscored to some extent imo because AJ, John and Rhys have all had better dances in other weeks that have scored either the same or lower than last nights, and with Rose her AT was her best dance for me personally, but like usual with Rose some bonus points came in and now it's being treated like a god tire performance.

To me when John's Paso & AT and AJ's Charleston didn't get 40/40 then it kinda confirmed to me that our judges aren't very good at their job. They're likeable but they do tend to be very biased imo, and despite the protection of Rhys in the series, I do feel that they let the public sway their opinion too much.

I mean who remembers that Stacey Dooley used to score similar on the leaderboard as Faye & Ashley just because she was more popular with the public.

[Nicky91]

where Rhys has one vision on his wishlist


there is me, with power rangers theme on my wishlist for movie week, for a paso doble :hehe:

[Beastie]

Is there a spoiler to who left? Also who's shagging who?

[joeysteele]

Actually in the dance off I felt Rhys was marginally better and I dislike Samba's intensely.

How I now hope the final sees John and Johannes do the Pirate Paso Doble again.

However the winner with the public will be and has been since week 7, Rose.

Congratulations to all the finalists however.

[Vanessa]

Rose and Giovanni to win for me! :cheer2::dance:

[Mystic Mock]

where Rhys has one vision on his wishlist


there is me, with power rangers theme on my wishlist for movie week, for a paso doble :hehe:

Go! Go! Power Rangers!

[Beastie]

I feel we have had the most likeable final 5!

[Strictly Jake]

This is the difference between this and I'm a celeb. I think it was fairly obvious the final 3 were going to be these 3 couples. However this time they all deserve it. Rose and Giovanni are predictable winners but deservedly so. They have been an absolute pleasure this series. Whereas the I'm a celeb final it was obvious throughout the series that he was going to win but he didn't deserve too he just knew how to put on the act.

Last year's final of strictly was so wide open I hadn't a clue who was gonna win and was shocked and so happy when Bill and Oti won.

It's obvious rose has this in the bag but it will still be a good final I'd be really really shocked and sad if she doesn't win!

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/Mabel/status/1470050922298494976

in case anyone was wondering why there was no guest performer, there was one scheduled Mabel, but this happened

[Liam-]

Rose was always going to win, from the beginning even her most average dances were blown out of proportion, I think the public and the judges have all fallen into the ‘she’s clearly better than everyone else because she’s doing that while deaf!!’ mindset, I genuinely doing believe she’d have been this well received if she wasn’t deaf

[Vanessa]

I think Rose is an excellent dancer and I love her partnership with Giovanni.
She's also really lovely and funny.
Hoping to see their Viennese waltz and couples choice again.
If not any of her ballroom will do, I love them all.
I like her Latins as well, maybe the Paso needs another outing. It has potential to be spectacular.

[Vanessa]

I really need to see John and Johannes paso again.
And hopefully their Argentine tango.

[Vanessa]

AJ should do her Charleston and rumba. Those were incredible.

[Nicky91]

Rose Ayling-Ellis & Giovanni Pernice

Jury Choice: Quickstep to Love is an open door from Frozen
Showdance to The Rose by Bette Midler
Favourite Dance: Couples's Choice to Symphony by Clean Bandit & Zara Larsson
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John Whaite & Johannes Radebe

Jury Choice: Rumba to Shape of my Heart by Sting
Showdance to You've got the Love by Candi Staton
Favourite Dance: Paso Doble to He's a Pirate from Pirates of the Caribbean

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19:10 PM BBC1 (10 minutes later than it would've been)



After 12 weeks of competition, we have our two finalists, and one of them will lift the Glitterball Trophy tonight. Tess Daly and Claudia Winkleman host as the couples complete three routines in a bid to be your Strictly Champions. Singer Ed Sheeran performs, and the cast of 2021 are back for one more spin on the dancefloor. Remember that, in the final, the judges' scores are for guidance only. The winner lies entirely in your hands.
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[Nicky91]

still a 2 hour long show :)


yeah can be accurate i think

each couple 3 routines = 6 dances, a VT before that, plus before judges choice, a talk with judges why they chose that specific routine etc

class of 2021 group number

opening pro number

ed sheeran guest performance

judges grand final chat maybe to fill the time too upstairs with Claudia

or a chat from Claudia with some of eliminated couples after their dance



2 hours can be more accurate than what was first thought 1 hour 15 minutes which is too short for 6 routines + extras

[Vanessa]

Im so excited for tonight show.
Can't wait to see all the dances. May the best one wjn! :cheer2:

[Nicky91]

you never know who might win in a head to head final ;)


i mean a Hollins managed to win over the superior dancer Ricky Whittle

:laugh:

[Nicky91]

Mike Bushell predicting Rose as the winner

well that only costs Rose quite some votes with that leech saying she'll win



and why oh why did he have to remind us of his magic mike pole dance routine :bored:

[joeysteele]

I'm sure there'll be a lot more possibly unnecessary talking from the judges now with ONLY 2 finalists.

The show will be great in itself from the celebrities and professionals left, doing their dances.

Although I still believe, there's likely no real chance the public will not strongly back Rose for to win this series.

I doubt there's been however a more deserving 2 finalists myself.
Well done and congratulations to both pairings.

Who this series have broken through barriers in some way and shown themselves to be great examples and entertainers.

[Lewismacfarlane]

Come on rose and giovani



John I like but rose is actually stunning

[Liam-]

I might not even bother watching tonight actually, it’s sort of been ruined for me without AJ being there, not only is the winner ridiculously obvious, but the only person I was supporting isn’t dancing, I don’t see much of a point

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/bbcstrictly/status/1472138768312381445

[Mystic Mock]

I might not even bother watching tonight actually, it’s sort of been ruined for me without AJ being there, not only is the winner ridiculously obvious, but the only person I was supporting isn’t dancing, I don’t see much of a point

I agree with you that the competition is dead tonight.

John could get 40's for all of his dances tonight and he still won't win, and we'll never be able to try and deduce who came 2nd out of John & AJ which was the only reason to get excited about the final imo.

[joeysteele]

I agree with you that the competition is dead tonight.

John could get 40's for all of his dances tonight and he still won't win, and we'll never be able to try and deduce who came 2nd out of John & AJ which was the only reason to get excited about the final imo.

It has taken a good bit of the shine off tonight's show I agree Mock.

[Kate!]

Rose takes round 1 imo

[joeysteele]

Two totally different dances, I think tied was appropriate from the judges.

Both excellent in what's expected from the dances.

[Denver]

That was phenomenal by Rose

[Kate!]

Stunning. Go get those tens girl. X

[Kate!]

So far Rose has the edge.

[joeysteele]

As good as Rose was, this Paso was and remains my all time favourite dance ever on Strictly, not just this series.
So I have to just edge John over Rose on this dance.
Brilliant.

[Kate!]

Please read my John and Johannes thread.

[Kate!]

Showdance time

[joeysteele]

Please read my John and Johannes thread.

I've just read it Kate.

I just cannot see the public not voting strongly for Rose.
Of just those I know of who are watching and voting.
The vast majority are voting for Rose.

I don't mind who wins myself.
I personally will be voting for John and Johannes.
However, I really have next to no doubt of belief myself that Rose will walk this in the voting from the public.

[Kate!]

Beautiful. That'll take some beating.

Outstanding showdance

[Kate!]

I've just read it Kate.

I just cannot see the public not voting strongly for Rose.
Of just those I know of who are watching and voting.
The vast majority are voting for Rose.

I don't mind who wins myself.
I personally will be voting for John and Johannes.
However, I really have next to no doubt of belief myself that Rose will walk this in the voting from the public.

I will be voting for Rose. But omg the competition was fierce.

[joeysteele]

I've enjoyed the show more than I thought.

These are 2 amazing pairings in my view.

[Kate!]

Rose has outshone tonight. In the name of justice she should win. But as I said inmy other thread....John can't be discounted x

[joeysteele]

For me it's a pity it can't be shared.

The judges voting tonight is a lot of help, ha ha.

Just incredible effort and content in all dances from both pairings.

I'd love John to win but I predict Rose will.

This was maybe the best ever Strictly final.
Imagine had A.J. been performing too.

Congratulations and thanks to both these couples tonight, amazing show.

[Kate!]

Nervous for Rose

[Liam-]

Rose has outshone tonight. In the name of justice she should win. But as I said inmy other thread....John can't be discounted x

He definitely can be

[Kate!]

Result time

[joeysteele]

I still say little to no doubt it will be Rose.

[Denver]

So glad Rose won

[joeysteele]

Congratulations to Rose and Giovanni.
Congratulations too to John and Johannes the runners up this series.

Absolutely superb final.

[Liam-]

It is about time Giovanni won tbf

[Kate!]

It is about time Giovanni won tbf

Yes he really deserved it.

Congrats to him and Rose.

[smudgie]

Perfect result.
I loved John and Johannes from the start, but Rose and Giovanni had me in tears tonight, so moving.

[Vanessa]

Im so happy! Woooooooo :dance::cheer2:

[Strictly Jake]

I have supported them from week 1. I stand by what I've said about them being my favourite ever couple. Me and my whole family voted for them like crazy tonight. I absolutely loved her dances. Cried at every one of them!!!! So so happy

[Strictly Jake]

To show the apprentice and the green planet trailers at the end was genius too. Absolutely buzzing to see both of them

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

I'll try to be polite about the dances as best I can.

Round 1:
1. John & Johannes - For a Rumba not bad.
2. Rose & Giovanni - This is probably my worst Rose dance, I hated it at the time and I hated it last night.

Round 2:
1. John & Johannes - John's Paso is my favourite dance of the series personally, so I was very happy to see it again, and possibly be improved from the first time that he did it.:shocked:
2. Rose & Giovanni - It's better than her first dance.

Round 3:
1. John & Johannes - He actually did a Showdance.
2. Rose & Giovanni - It was less of a Showdance and more of an encore to her Couple's Choice imo.

Personally I think that this was the worst Strictly season that I've ever watched, and tbh it quite possibly might be one of the worst Reality TV Show seasons that I've ever watched.

I'm not just picking on Rose before anyone says anything as I pulled up The Cookout on BBUSA's most recent season too for the same reason (Ashley on here can testify to this) is that there was no competition on either Show this year as it was fairly obvious which contestants would win both Shows, and it weren't because they were the best competitor in their respective series or because they were even that entertaining to watch, imo it was all just to tick societal boxes which is not what these Shows are supposed to be about imo, but they're going that way.

I honestly have no issue with POC or people with disabilities winning Reality TV Shows, what I do resent is this massive agenda that the production have of forcing Xavier (who was possibly the most unlikable Cookout member) and Rose to win their years that they end up treating them with kiddie gloves. And a portion of the public treating you like you're unlikable if you didn't want Rose to win (just see DS where Rose fans were telling John fans off) or a racist for not wanting the competition to start at the top 6 in BBUSA's case (I'd preferred an all-black lineup tbh as it would've been competitive) something that was lacking in BBUSA over the last couple of seasons.

For me on this year's Strictly I would've liked John, Rhys or AJ to win the series, but let's face it a lot of people were treating it more like a morality contest rather than as an entertainment show imo.

Hopefully the Show learns a lot from MasterChef: The Professionals final where they were all good cooks, and they made it hard to predict who was gonna win, because I certainly got it wrong.

Having ranted a lot, I think that Rose is a nice girl who has hopefully inspired other deaf people into trying out things such as dancing among many other hobbies. However do I think that she deserves to win and get away with doing samey routines most weeks? No I don't.

I know that I'm gonna offend a lot of the Forum with this post, but **** it I'm used to being annoying so why not add another moment to the roster?:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

It has taken a good bit of the shine off tonight's show I agree Mock.

Glad to know that you enjoyed the Show tonight Joey.

I'm genuinely happy that you and other people got something out of it.

[Mystic Mock]

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Whoa! Well done to Rose on getting all of that.

JC! I need to start practising my Jive for next series of SCD.:joker:

[Vanessa]

I thought both John and Rose were fantastic last night.
But I loved her showdance more. It was absolutely beautiful!

[Vanessa]

Motsi was expecting John to win. Her face when Rose was announced the winner was a picture :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I thought both John and Rose were fantastic last night.
But I loved her showdance more. It was absolutely beautiful!

Tbf I probably need to not be so harsh.

[Beso]

She was never the best dancer, (AJ was) but my goodness what a joy she was to watch.

My Saturdays just ain't gonna be the same now.

[Nicky91]

very deserving winner


but overall what a great enjoyable final :love:



eliminated group dance so much fun either :clap1:


Greg with that beard looks good on him somehow


nice to see Judi's twerk again :love:



Dan's lobster dance was better than the first time around #TeamWalkova slaying yet again :clap2:



Ugo with his wig :worship: definitely the most fun last celeb for Oti on the show :love:



Nina even danced very well, still kinda shocked how she was a first boot but that shows how strong this series was





Rose's showdance had more of an impact than John's showdance, but John's was more fun entertaining




this is Johannes last final i think, since he hasn't got this connection with female celebs, although i'd like to see him with a comedian lady, i think Dawn French would be perfect for him personality wise, with her great humour and i think in turn Johannes is someone she needs to overcome her nerves and fears for doing this show




finally Gio got his glitterball, justice for Faye Tozer, Georgia May Foote, Debbeh McGee is served :dance: :cheer2:


as for a older lady duffer next year, well make it a fun one pls production, i wanna see Gio with what his comedy routines would look like

Theresa May is available LOL :fan:

[joeysteele]

Glad to know that you enjoyed the Show tonight Joey.

I'm genuinely happy that you and other people got something out of it.

It's how you felt Mock and I do have to admit while I enjoyed it immensely, maybe because I had no doubt that who I wanted to win couldn't, as like you I think the presentation of this series in part has made it about other issues than a dancing entertainment reality series.
Plus, it's been clear to you and I since between weeks 4 to 7.
There was only going to be one certain winner this series immaterial what the other contestants did.
The public got behind that and Rose quickly.

I just relaxed and felt I was at 2 different shows although I was voting for John, as was my Mum.
My cousin for Rose.

I did think of your comment weeks back re like Disney routines re Rose..
During the final.

John and Johannes had 2 of the hardest dances to do again in the final.
In my view.
However I knew they couldn't win.
Neither would AJ have had she been there.

I've said for weeks, much like yourself, this series was about supporting acts in the final with Rose..
Not about anyone else winning.

So I get most of where you are coming from.

I know of people voting only because they admire Rose for being able to dance with her hearing loss.
I admire that greatly.

However, the dancing should reflect scores and votes.

I can concede to you, the dances last night saw one couple doing ' safer' dances let's say.
With the other pair giving very powerful performances on 2 of the hardest dances to be done in a final.

I think for me my Mum last night summed it up.
She enjoyed the show.
However her last words on it were, that's what it was, a show, it was not in the end a competition as the whole series has been orchestrated as to a one way traffic as to the winner for many weeks now.

I do agree mostly with that conclusion.
So your stronger view on this series and the final.
I don't think you're off the mark.

You and I were poles apart on Dan.
Yet I could see your point on his entertainment value too.

I did enjoy it, in the main as I said because I knew beyond near all doubt, firstly my own choice hadn't a hope of winning, immaterial of how good they may be.
Plus, I knew equally beyond near all doubt, the winner was already decided.

So I treated it more as a variety type show.
To just enjoy and not get too wrapped up in as a dancing competition.

Good reading Mock as it always is from you.

[Mystic Mock]

She was never the best dancer, (AJ was) but my goodness what a joy she was to watch.

My Saturdays just ain't gonna be the same now.

If we're being honest though Rose did do the same dance every week didn't she? Something that is extremely uncommon for a Strictly winner.

[Mystic Mock]

It's how you felt Mock and I do have to admit while I enjoyed it immensely, maybe because I had no doubt that who I wanted to win couldn't, as like you I think the presentation of this series in part has made it about other issues than a dancing entertainment reality series.
Plus, it's been clear to you and I since between weeks 4 to 7.
There was only going to be one certain winner this series immaterial what the other contestants did.
The public got behind that and Rose quickly.

I just relaxed and felt I was at 2 different shows although I was voting for John, as was my Mum.
My cousin for Rose.

I did think of your comment weeks back re like Disney routines re Rose..
During the final.

John and Johannes had 2 of the hardest dances to do again in the final.
In my view.
However I knew they couldn't win.
Neither would AJ have had she been there.

I've said for weeks, much like yourself, this series was about supporting acts in the final with Rose..
Not about anyone else winning.

So I get most of where you are coming from.

I know of people voting only because they admire Rose for being able to dance with her hearing loss.
I admire that greatly.

However, the dancing should reflect scores and votes.

I can concede to you, the dances last night saw one couple doing ' safer' dances let's say.
With the other pair giving very powerful performances on 2 of the hardest dances to be done in a final.

I think for me my Mum last night summed it up.
She enjoyed the show.
However her last words on it were, that's what it was, a show, it was not in the end a competition as the whole series has been orchestrated as to a one way traffic as to the winner for many weeks now.

I do agree mostly with that conclusion.
So your stronger view on this series and the final.
I don't think you're off the mark.

You and I were poles apart on Dan.
Yet I could see your point on his entertainment value too.

I did enjoy it, in the main as I said because I knew beyond near all doubt, firstly my own choice hadn't a hope of winning, immaterial of how good they may be.
Plus, I knew equally beyond near all doubt, the winner was already decided.

So I treated it more as a variety type show.
To just enjoy and not get too wrapped up in as a dancing competition.

Good reading Mock as it always is from you.

Tbf you've summed the series up in a much calmer fashion than I can in this post.

Strictly results have never angered me like this, in fact I normally like to see myself as a more chilled out Strictly viewer.

I think for me I'm just breaking at every TV Show nowadays not really following what their supposed to be about, and instead try to be "profound" therefore becoming miserable & boring drecks.

So it's not all Strictly's fault for how I feel, but it did harm my opinion of not just the year itself but also of Rose as a "contestant" because she never really felt like a contestant. And creepily by the end it felt like people were treating her more like an Angel than an actual Human Being.

I promise to calm it down after this post, it's just a glitterball at the end of the day.

[Nicky91]

i've planned to record the christmas special episode as the time slot is not convenient for me at all, don't want to rush

hope i can record from my nation though with our ziggo provider, but otherwise if i can't then they shouldn't say you can record it


so i have something later on in the evening of first christmas day to watch :)

[Nicky91]

Fred & Dianne: very fun quickstep, i actually now want him to do a full series more, really see lots of potential in him 9

Moira & Aljaz: very fun christmas salsa, for her age also yes i agree with judges decent hip action 9

Anne-Marie & Graziano: too much of a liftfest for my liking, and lifts are a no go in cha cha in regular series, would've liked more cha cha basic content, but otherwise fun routine 8

Jay & Luba: this wasn't bad at all, for a taller guy and he isn't the youngest anymore either, this was quite fast paced, timing was pretty good as well, as well as his character which was fabulous 9

Adrian & Jowita: was expecting a complete disaster, but instead this looked like quite the ballroom delight, impressive lifts as well as lots of swing, sway, i liked this version of white christmas as well by Tommy 9

Mel & Neil: A-MA-ZING, this streetdance was as cool as ICE ICE Baby sorry couldn't resist with that pun, great choreo from Neil, this is the coolest streetdance i've ever seen from someone her age, this was sooo youthful, fun, this was perfect and the penguins so cute 10!

[Kate!]

Who won the Christmas special?

[Nicky91]

Who won the Christmas special?

unfortunately that fake woman and the liftfest

:idc:

[Nicky91]

all those vile youths now, ''get her onto next years series''

:yuk:

hope not, she is a too big name for our precious show

[Nicky91]

can Graziano pls get axed from the show either, same rule breaking idiot like a Gleb was

:idc:


obey the rules of dance technique, no lifts in cha cha cha means no lifts

[Nicky91]

i can dance way better than Anne-Marie

[Vanessa]

Get Graziano and Anne Marie on next year show .
They have so much chemistry dancing together.
That cha cha was brilliant!

[Vanessa]

I think Mel and Fred would also be amazing on the show.

[Mystic Mock]

The Christmas special was fun.

[Mystic Mock]

i can dance way better than Anne-Marie

If that's the case then the BBC need to sign you up.