The Conservative Party New Leader race ELIZABETH TRUSS WINS

[bots]

JR-M is in the ERG, that should tell you all you need to know on how dodgy it is

[Alf]

JR-M is in the ERG, that should tell you all you need to know on how dodgy it isHow do you know that but Channel 4 didn't?

[arista]

How do you know that but Channel 4 didn't?


Ch4HDnews
know it

[Alf]

Ch4HDnews
know itWhat was he asking her for then?

[bots]

What was he asking her for then?

pretty obvious really, he wanted her to tell viewers, and she refused

[Alf]

This is also funded by the taxpayer

Another 100+ today. That's another hotel taken out of action.



1546457639302959106

[Alf]

pretty obvious really, he wanted her to tell viewers, and she refusedShe told him that the information is available to see.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXZIEkqXoAUxFgs?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

This is also funded by the taxpayer

Another 100+ today. That's another hotel taken out of action.




Alf there is a thread for this
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11188354#post11188354


It needs updates

[arista]

Sajid is Live
in a Hot Studio


SkyNewsHD

[UserSince2005]

Sajid is Live
in a Hot Studio


SkyNewsHD

is he sweating like the pig he is?

[arista]

is he sweating like the pig he is?



Yes
Very Hot there inside that Westminster Room


Will he take questions?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/14/60132535-0-image-m-21_1657547105703.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/10/60125419-11001697-image-m-6_1657531608539.jpg

2014 Penny doing the ITV1HD Splash show

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash!_(British_TV_series)

[bots]

:joker:

1546481090818351104

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/15/60130119-11001697-image-m-47_1657550882633.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/11/60126597-0-image-a-4_1657534651226.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/11/60127491-11001987-image-a-5_1657534797520.jpg
Johnson PM
in a London Lab today

[arista]

Great that SkyNewsHD
stays with Sajid taking loads of questions
far more than the Labour Leader got today.

[Alf]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/14/60132535-0-image-m-21_1657547105703.jpgPriti Patel "Immigration hardliner"

That's quite obviously bullish!t. Anyone can see that by her time as home secretary.

[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/11/d16f20a9-be6a-4c7b-b98b-a91b31df056d.png

[Zizu]

Yes but after School got Rich
and Married a Richer Wife


I don’t think we can describe his early life as humble .. didn’t he go to a £35,000 a test school ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Crimson Dynamo]

Come Thru KEMI

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/11/d16f20a9-be6a-4c7b-b98b-a91b31df056d.png



He did well
answering more questions,
than any others

[bots]

When senior Tories announce the rules for this contest this evening the number of candidates could become smaller quite swiftly, as one key decision will be about a threshold.

At the last leadership election, any candidate needed eight MPs backing them just to get into the first round of voting.

The Tories now have more MPs due to a big general election victory in 2019. There is talk of the number increasing, potentially to around 20.

The idea is that any candidate would have to show they have a serious base of support in the parliamentary party.

If that initial threshold is quite high, some potential candidates may simply be unable to meet it. They’ll be out before they’ve even really begun running in earnest.

Some candidates don’t have close to 20 colleagues backing them yet. But plenty of MPs have yet to declare their allegiance.

It’s important to remember these leadership contests can be unpredictable. Often a candidate who isn’t the favourite can go quite far once things get underway.

from bbc live feed

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/person/image/4010/s465_Kemi_gov.uk.png

[arista]

Penny is now above Rich Rishi.

Ch4HDnews just confirmed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rishi Rich

https://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/assets/images/rrgs_1_c.jpg

[bots]

20 nominations required to appear on the ballot - confirmed

[joeysteele]

The plans sound to be good ones.
It could be an interesting couple of weeks.

[bots]

the new minimum noms will knock out half the field i would have thought

[arista]

They now need 20 MP's backing them

Which means Rehmen Chishti MP

Can Piss off

[arista]

[Conservative leadership race:
Date new prime minister will
be announced is revealed

The race to replace Boris Johnson as
Conservative Party leader and prime minister
will officially kick off on Tuesday
but a new PM will not be in place
until 5 September, with Mr Johnson staying
in Number 10 until then.]

[arista]

What a Waste
this back bencher No Chance
Rehman Chishti MP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehman_Chishti

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Official_portrait_of_Rehman_Chishti_MP_crop_2.jpg/440px-Official_portrait_of_Rehman_Chishti_MP_crop_2.jpg

[He served under Theresa May as both the
Vice Chair of the Conservative Party for Communities in 2018
and the Prime Ministerial Trade Envoy to Pakistan from 2017 to 2018]


Stop Wasting Our Time

[MPs backing Rehman Chishti

Rehman Chishti]

[arista]

[MPs backing Grant Shapps

Graham Stuart
George Eustice
Trudy Harrison
Paul Bristow
Mark Pritchard
James Davies
Grant Shapps
Robert Courts]


Piss off as well

[arista]

[MPs backing Sajid Javid

Sajid Javid
Edward Argar
Mary Robinson
Chris Philp
Mike Wood
Robert Halfon
Jeremy Wright
Saqib Bhatti
Rachel Maclean
Steve Double
Robin Walker]

[arista]

[MPs backing Suella Braverman

Robin Millar
David Jones
Jason McCartney
Henry Smith
Danny Kruger
Suella Braverman
Philip Hollobone
Julian Lewis
Desmond Swayne
Richard Drax
John Hayes
Steve Baker]

[arista]

[MPs backing Jeremy Hunt

Dan Poulter
Philip Dunne
David Morris
Oliver Heald
Crispin Blunt
Philip Davies
Daniel Kawczynski
Jeremy Hunt
Andrew Mitchell
Esther McVey
Anthony Mangnall
Steve Brine
Peter Bottomley]

[Cherie]

Surely they can’t count themselves as backers

I’m backing myself...it’s like a line from Love Island :laugh:

[arista]

[MPs backing Kemi Badenoch

Leo Docherty
Lee Anderson
Neil O'Brien
Julia Lopez
Tom Hunt
Ben Bradley
Lee Rowley
Justin Tomlinson
Andrew Lewer
Gareth Bacon
Kemi Badenoch
Caroline Johnson
Michael Gove
Eddie Hughes]

[arista]

[MPs backing Nadhim Zahawi

Mark Fletcher
Tobias Ellwood
Amanda Milling
Michelle Donelan
Maggie Throup
Brandon Lewis
Jesse Norman
Sara Britcliffe
Jonathan Gullis
Jack Brereton
Nadhim Zahawi
Paul Scully
David Johnston
Mark Jenkinson]

[arista]

[MPs backing Tom Tugendhat

Damian Green
Anne-Marie Trevelyan
Mark Logan
Chris Green
John Stevenson
Nickie Aiken
Paul Holmes
Robert Largan
Aaron Bell
Anne Marie Morris
Robert Syms
Jake Berry
Damien Moore
Karen Bradley
Tom Tugendhat
Stephen Hammond]

[arista]

[MPs backing Liz Truss

Wendy Morton
Rob Butler
Dehenna Davison
Darren Henry
Vicky Ford
Alec Shelbrooke
Simon Clarke
Ranil Jayawardena
Chloe Smith
Julian Knight
Elizabeth Truss
Kwasi Kwarteng
Thérèse Coffey
Jackie Doyle-Price
Dean Russell
Marcus Fysh]

[arista]

[MPs backing Rishi Sunak

Paul Maynard
Fay Jones
Robert Neill
Simon Hart
Mel Stride
Greg Hands
Simon Jupp
Claire Coutinho
Helen Whately
Mark Harper
Gareth Davies
Angela Richardson
Julie Marson
Oliver Dowden
Bim Afolami
Maria Caulfield
Craig Williams
Robert Jenrick
Simon Hoare
Liam Fox
Louie French
Jacob Young
Rishi Sunak
Ruth Edwards
John Glen
Robert Goodwill
Laura Trott
Mark Spencer
Anthony Browne
James Cartlidge
Andrew Murrison
Siobhan Baillie
Kevin Hollinrake]

[arista]

[MPs backing Penny Mordaunt

Maria Miller
John Lamont
James Sunderland
Elliot Colburn
Kieran Mullan
Caroline Ansell
Damian Collins
Caroline Dinenage
Robbie Moore
Michael Fabricant
George Freeman
Duncan Baker
Craig Tracey
James Gray
Penny Mordaunt
Alicia Kearns
Andrea Leadsom
Derek Thomas
Theo Clarke
Nicola Richards]

From this Link
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/who-backing-who-tory-leadership-27449590#comments-wrapper

[arista]

Rishi Vs Penny

[arista]

Surely they can’t count themselves as backers

I’m backing myself...it’s like a line from Love Island :laugh:


They do

So that MP started today Rehman Chishti
Stupidly with no mates

[arista]

[Conservative Party leadership rules: Contest to quickly cull off wide field of candidates with Shapps, Javid and Zahawi at risk]

[arista]

Conservative leadership timetable

Tuesday 12 July - nominations to get on the ballot open, closing at 18.00 BST

Wednesday 13 July - first round of voting among Tory MPs

Thursday 14 July - likely date for second round of voting

Monday 18 July - likely date for third round of voting, if required

Thursday 21 July - deadline for deciding final two candidates

Monday 5 September - winner announced

[bots]

they will be scrambling round tomorrow to try and pick up backers, that should be funny

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/11/20/60108081-11003437-Mr_Sunak_s_bid_to_be_crowned_Tory_leader_is_alread y_being_counte-a-76_1657567107026.jpg

Young Rich Rishi

[arista]

they will be scrambling round tomorrow to try and pick up backers, that should be funny



Blood on the dancefloor

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-45fb6246-6b1d-4ed9-be3f-a328b311709a.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

NewsnightHD BBC2

Showed the new Conserv. Home Poll


Penny Number 1 : 19.6%
Kemi Number 2 : 18.6%
Rishi Number 3 : 12.1%
Suella Number 4: 11:0%
Liz : Number 5 : 10.9%

[bots]

3 now have the required backers - Rishi Sunak, Penny Mordaunt, and Tom Tugenhadt

[Denver]

Penny is gaining so much traction very hard to see past her winning

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXDbCSyWYAAH1bK?format=jpg&name=900x900

[MTVN]

Does Rehman Chisti have enough backers yet?

[arista]

Does Rehman Chisti have enough backers yet?


NO



He is a Time Bloody Waster

What a nutter to start with no backers

[bots]

i think 20 is a nice test of whether the party likes you or not. I heard that Sunak is flaunting the fact that ex chancellor norman lamont is behind him, but given he was the biggest failure ever in our history it's an interesting choice :laugh:

[arista]

Yes the rush is to get 20 MP backers


Then they will be Live on SkyNewsHD Leaders debate Mon. 18/7/22

Also Free online viewing

[arista]

The contenders, gathered at the
Sky News studios in West London,
will face questions from a virtual studio audience.

[bots]

NO



He is a Time Bloody Waster

What a nutter to start with no backers

he was obviously hoping that mp's would then back him as being someone a bit different. It's a fair enough strategy

[arista]

He could be the first one out

[arista]

TV news it's the Rich Rishi
Conference


RAAB speaking first.

[arista]

Rich Rishi now live

[bots]

Shapps is out

[arista]

Tom was Live SkyNewsHD

Kemi on BBCnewsHD
not live

[arista]

Shapps is out

good


https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/grant-shapps-tory-leadership-race-rishi-sunak_uk_62cd3ebbe4b0d74019885f2b


He now backs Rich Rishi

[arista]

Tomorrow they will need
30 MP's backing them


SkyNewsHD

[joeysteele]

As to the vote of no confidence and in relation to these candidates for leader now.

Of course it's a gesture and WILL be soundly defeated .

Despite the Con MPs wanting this PM gone for his deceit, lies and even lawbreaking too.
Plus former and present Ministers now seeking to want to throw out major Johnson policies, which THEY voted for.

The common sense position would be, how can there be confidence in such a shambles of a government.
Certainly possibly to the voters.

So let's see IF any Con MPs realise that and even just abstain.

However too, let's see how ALL the opposition parties vote too.
Like the DUP for instance and ALL the Lib Dems.
As well as the SNP and Plaid Cymru too.

So while a losing vote from the off.
It's still a fair attempt to object to and HIGHLIGHT further the obscenity of this disgraced PM left in place for a further possible 2 months by the Con party who want him gone.

Which may help voters decide how they see these candidates.
Although with no say in who wins.

[bots]

it's summer recess next week, before parliament is back, boris will be gone, so it's show boating, simple as that. Labour are just pissed they have and will be out of the daily news cycle for weeks

[arista]

ITV1HD beats Sky to be the first debate
Live ITV1HD Conservative Leaders debate Sunday 7PM ,


https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-11/itv-to-host-first-tory-leadership-debate-in-race-to-replace-boris-johnson-as-pm

[bots]

i don't get it, it's pointless having a debate between people that have no chance of becoming leader. It only makes sense when it's down to the final 2 in just over a week

[arista]

i don't get it, it's pointless having a debate between people that have no chance of becoming leader. It only makes sense when it's down to the final 2 in just over a week


No its Funny
watching them crumble


The Public want them

Sky News said they have the first debate
now ITV1HD Political division
over takes them

[arista]

By Thursday
it will be far less of them

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rishi just sounded like Tony Blair

[joeysteele]

it's summer recess next week, before parliament is back, boris will be gone, so it's show boating, simple as that. Labour are just pissed they have and will be out of the daily news cycle for weeks

Johnson is still the PM.
Any major incident arising, he's the Prime Minister.
Recess or no recess.

Of course it's partly showboating, politics is full of that from ALL parties.
If you think, if the roles here were reversed , that the Cons wouldn't be tabling a no confidence motion, then I thnk you'd be badly mistaken.

For me, I want to see if it goes ahead just what ALL other so called opposition parties vote or even don't .


One good thing for me today I hope anyhow.
Is Rees-Mogg and Dorries coming out for false Truss.
Hopefully that's the end of her chances.

[bots]

i won't forgive Sunak for how he treated those that earn a living in performing arts during the lockdown. He basically said tough, get another job. To me, that showed his true colours. How were any of them going to get another job when everything was closed down

[joeysteele]

i won't forgive Sunak for how he treated those that earn a living in performing arts during the lockdown. He basically said tough, get another job. To me, that showed his true colours. How were any of them going to get another job when everything was closed down


On all that I wholly agree with you bots.

[arista]

Rishi just sounded like Tony Blair


Yes New Labour Rishi to beat Starmer

[arista]

https://twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/1546812839481982978

[bots]

Sunak is at least a very capable communicator which sets him above the majority of people in the government

[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/12/713a3ed9-b6db-45e9-bd93-c4b49f44fb57.png

[arista]

Rock on 6PM tonight
any without 20 backers can Piss Off


And Patel Not in the Race

[bots]

just listened to Kemi, and i don't believe a word she says, so thats a fine start :laugh:

[bots]

Nadhim Zahawi, Sunak, Penny Mordaunt and Tugendhat are all said to have secured the necessary nominations

[arista]

just listened to Kemi, and i don't believe a word she says, so thats a fine start :laugh:


She watched Corrupt Nigerian Politicians
destroy her nation

[bots]

Priti is not standing

[bots]

Rishi just sounded like Tony Blair

i just listened to him now, and that is exactly who he sounds like

[Oliver_W]

just listened to Kemi, and i don't believe a word she says, so thats a fine start :laugh:

What was she saying?

[bots]

What was she saying?

it was all waffly nonsense about telling the truth

[arista]

What was she saying?


She watched Corrupt Nigerian Politicians
destroy her nation,
so she is able to deal with Running the UK.

[arista]

This was December 2021

https://twitter.com/PigeonJon/status/1545008238747426818

[arista]

Ship Ahoy


https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/1546851626509557762

[arista]

ITV and Sky are doing debates

ITV Sunday
SkyNewsHD Monday


What is wrong with the sad bbc

[bots]

the closing time for the entrants is 6pm, less than 3 hours

[arista]

Rishi has 45MP's


Penny is through has 25MP's


Liz is through tonight at 6PM
as she has 21 MP's backing her


Tom is through at 6PM
he has 20 MP's

[arista]

Rehman Chishti MP

Has No MP's backing him

SkyNewsHD Live

[bots]

Rehman Chishti MP

Has No MP's backing him

SkyNewsHD Live

:cheer2:

[arista]

Suella

Only has 12 MP's backing her

6PM she is struggling to find anymore


Sajid will sweat some
as he only has 11 MP's

Jeremy Hunt
has 15 MP's



Nadhim has 14 MP's

[bots]

none of them are going to make it, they would have had them by now if they were going to get them

[Cherie]

:cheer2:

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Suella

Only has 12 MP's backing her

6PM she is struggling to find anymore


Sajid will sweat some
as he only has 11 MP's

Jeremy Hunt
has 15 MP's



Nadhim has 14 MP's

get rid of the chaff, it will be between Rishi and Tom

[bots]

:laugh:

Nominations close in just under three hours' time, and as we've been reporting candidates need at least 20 MPs to back them to get onto the first ballot.

Throughout the day we've been hearing different positions from some of the candidates. We've also finally heard from Priti Patel, who has decided not to run.

One candidate who we haven't heard much from today is Rehman Chishti - a junior Foreign Office minister and a surprise contender.

The Gillingham MP has not received one single public backer among Tory MPs, however Rehman has tweeted that he will "continue my candidature till the very end".

[bots]

Tory MP Aaron Bell has handed in the nomination papers for Tom Tugendhat's leadership bid to Tory 1922 Committee chairman Sir Graham Brady.

He is indicating Tugendhat has the support of the 20 MPs required to get onto the leadership ballot.

"Tom is now the first candidate to be duly nominated," Bell says.

[Crimson Dynamo]

ITV to host first Tory leadership debate in race to replace Boris Johnson as prime minister

https://images.ctfassets.net/pjshm78m9jt4/2qaFF6W8IRfTsYVmwAQQXC/df1c284ba1ef76a73820d94130baa1bd/hjtwrujisk7yj.jpg?fm=webp&fit=fill&w=830&h=467&q=80

The first Tory leadership debate will be hosted by ITV on Sunday, with unknown underdogs and big-hitting Cabinet ministers all hoping they can get on the billing.

It is not yet clear how many candidates will be taking part in the debate, with the rules and timeframe for the contest still yet to be set out.

There are 11 hopefuls so far, however that number is likely to be significantly reduced by the time the first debate takes place at 7pm on Sunday, July 17.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-11/itv-to-host-first-tory-leadership-debate-in-race-to-replace-boris-johnson-as-pm

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did you see the PM
I sent you LT

yes

[arista]

Gove has spoken
to Chris Mason,
sat the BBC.

He said Johnson was Polite when he sacked him.

[arista]

One Conservative MP on the Green (BBCnewsHD)
has not declared,
Conservative Chris Skidmore MP OBE
wants the Green Agenda spoken about.

Not one of the 8 or 10 left have
a Green Policy spoken, yet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Skidmore

[arista]

[Rishi Sunak tries to flee Tory campaign launch
after taking questions from just four reporters
as supporters BOO Sky's Beth Rigby
for calling him a 'corrosive' figure and bringing
up his wife's 'non-dom' status
(before her mic 'dropped out')]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11006247/Rishi-Sunak-tries-flee-Tory-campaign-launch-taking-questions-just-four-reporters.html

[joeysteele]

Suella

Only has 12 MP's backing her

6PM she is struggling to find anymore


Sajid will sweat some
as he only has 11 MP's

Jeremy Hunt
has 15 MP's



Nadhim has 14 MP's


I hope Hunt gets nowhere.
He'd inflict the truly awful Esther McVey on the Nation as his deputy PM if he won.
No thanks from me to that whatsoever.
She's truly awful.

[Zizu]

I hope Hunt gets nowhere.
He'd inflict the truly awful Esther McVey on the Nation as his deputy PM if he won.
No thanks from me to that whatsoever.
She's truly awful.


Completely agree


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Cherie]

https://news.sky.com/story/tom-tugendhat-conservative-mp-and-former-soldier-gets-round-of-applause-in-commons-for-emotional-afghanistan-speech-12384481

[bots]

Let's take a look at our latest tally of who's got how many supporters:

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20
Kemi Badenoch - 16
Nadhim Zahawi - 14
Jeremy Hunt - 13
Suella Braverman - 12
Sajid Javid - 11
Rehman Chishti - 0

[arista]

Rehman Chishti - 0


He is Now Out.

Just confirmed.

[arista]

The Lucky 4

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20


But 30 MP's backing
needed
by 6pm Tomorrow

So those 3 MP's all need the others
that have lost out

[bots]

if it's 4 that made it then we will know the final 2 on thursday

[arista]

I hope Hunt gets nowhere.
He'd inflict the truly awful Esther McVey on the Nation as his deputy PM if he won.
No thanks from me to that whatsoever.
She's truly awful.



Yes his tally went down by 2 MP's


So he can walk away

[bots]

I hope Hunt gets nowhere.
He'd inflict the truly awful Esther McVey on the Nation as his deputy PM if he won.
No thanks from me to that whatsoever.
She's truly awful.

just for you joey Hunts in - he got the 20 required

[arista]

if it's 4 that made it then we will know the final 2 on Thursday


Yes Rich Rishi Vs Ship Ahoy Penny
Thursday.


Penny taking a Gamble
Ian Dale Live 7:30PM LBC tonight

[arista]

Sajid Drops OUT

SkyNewsHD Live



Can Kemi get his MP's fast?

[bots]

4 mins remaining, who knows :laugh:

[arista]

[just for you joey Hunts in - he got the 20 required]

Sure another Day.


The Lucky 5.

[arista]

The 8 Lucky one more day

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20
Jeremy Hunt -20
Kemi Badenoch - 20 or above
Nadhim Zahawi - 20 or above
Suella Braverman - 20

[bots]

i wonder who Rehman Chishti is going to endorse :joker:

[arista]

i wonder who Rehman Chishti is going to endorse :joker:



Yes who will he pick


I assume Rishi.

[arista]

The 8 Lucky one more day

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20
Jeremy Hunt -20
Kemi Badenoch - 20 or above
Nadhim Zahawi - 20 or above
Suella Braverman - 20



The New Official List
with thanks to bots

[joeysteele]

just for you joey Hunts in - he got the 20 required

Oh goodness me.:joker:

Thank you for that info bots.

[joeysteele]

The New Official List
with thanks to bots


The first ballot is going to be interesting.
Have you a choice you'd like arista?
Or not sure yet.

[Liam-]

What a sorry lot, truly some of the worst examples of British politics

[arista]

The first ballot is going to be interesting.
Have you a choice you'd like arista?
Or not sure yet.


We need to see the 2 or more
on the Sunday 7PM debate ITV1HD Live

[Denver]

I think Rishi is in trouble of not making it, apart from Lis truss I don't see many of the other candidates backing him when they are going for people wanting taxes cut and he was the one who raised them

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/04/20/21829274-7756705-Kemi_Badenoch_39_pictured_with_her_new_daughter_fr om_Wimbledon_i-a-35_1575493172235.jpg

[arista]

Will Kemi
get past Thursday 6PM?

[Crimson Dynamo]

:fc:

[arista]

I think Rishi is in trouble of not making it, apart from Lis truss I don't see many of the other candidates backing him when they are going for people wanting taxes cut and he was the one who raised them


45 MP's
seems doing OK

[bots]

i've never liked a single PM over my entire life and i don't see anything changing here

[arista]

Nadine claims
Rishi lent votes to J. Hunt.


SkyNewsHD Live

[bots]

nadine just wants to stir the pot

[Crimson Dynamo]

i've never liked a single PM over my entire life and i don't see anything changing here

YOu must have admired

https://www.biography.com/.image/t_share/MTc2Njk4NDEwOTMyMzgxNjc1/margaret-thatcher_500x500_gettyimages-108932085.jpg

What a woman

[bots]

don't get me started :laugh:

[joeysteele]

i've never liked a single PM over my entire life and i don't see anything changing here


So far neither have I bots.
Although I've only been around since 1992.

Nor really any UK wide Party leaders in fact.

Although reading back, had he become PM, I think I'd have liked John Smith.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So far neither have I bots.
Although I've only been around since 1992.

Nor really any UK wide Party leaders in fact.

Although reading back, had he become PM, I think I'd have liked John Smith.

yes a great man

[Crimson Dynamo]

also Joey

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/charles-kennedy-1.jpg

[joeysteele]

also Joey

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/charles-kennedy-1.jpg


Actually yes.
I did like Charles Kennedy too.

Maybe I should have said, I haven't liked any Con or Labour leader.
I was only 2 when John Smith died and really he was the one who got Labour to a winning position.
Which Blair ended up getting the credit for.

[arista]

yes a great man

Yes,
He Over did it
did not take medical advice
PATHETIC MAN
doomed.

Heart Attack



[On the evening of 11 May 1994,
with around 500 people present,
Smith made a speech at a fundraising dinner
at Park Lane Hotel, London, saying
"The opportunity to serve
our country—that is all we ask".
At 8:05 a.m. the following morning,
whilst in his Barbican flat,
Smith suffered a fatal heart attack.]



[First heart attack
Smith suffered a heart attack
on 9 October 1988, and was forced to
spend three months away from
Westminster to recover.
On that occasion, he had complained of chest pains
the night before and had to be persuaded
to cancel a flight to London
so he could go to hospital for a check-up.
He was examined at the
Edinburgh Royal Infirmary by an ECG.
The doctor who examined him said,
"Whatever it is, we don't think it is your heart".
Then, Smith suddenly collapsed and was briefly
unconscious before coming around.
He spent three days in intensive care before
leaving hospital on 20 October 1988 and
made a full recovery.]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(Labour_Party_leader)

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2050aa3f-7b08-408a-98f4-2fb01f593aaf.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-67979839-3c63-4bf4-8601-65c2909586cc.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2C54/production/_125884311_telegraph-nc.png

[arista]

I recorded Penny LIVE
last night on LBC, Ian Dale.

One Caller wanted to know about Woman only spaces.

She was lucky with the Live callers


She wants to Evolve the BBC TAX

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/13/01/60200089-0-image-a-11_1657673371897.jpg

[arista]

https://twitter.com/willbarnesUK/status/1546935189661687810

[bots]

who is favourite to exit the contest first?

[Cherie]

So the 'Ready for Rishi' domain was registered in December 2021 :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Apparently Rees-Mogg would refuse a Cabinet post if Sunak wins.

There's one plus for Sunak then for me.

However I do think Sunak has been planning a leadership challenge a fair while now as Cherie has just posted information on.

[arista]

Apparently Rees-Mogg would refuse a Cabinet post if Sunak wins.

There's one plus for Sunak then for me.

However I do think Sunak has been planning a leadership challenge a fair while now as Cherie has just posted information on.


Thats fine Rich Rishi hates him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny Mordaunt would beat all her Conservative leadership rivals in a head-to-head contest, new polling of the party’s grassroots suggests.

Ms Mordaunt, the international trade minister, led the candidates in a series of run-offs carried out by the Conservative Home website.

Kemi Badenoch, the former equalities minister, was second while Liz Truss, the Foreign Secretary, was third. Ms Badenoch would beat all her fellow candidates except Ms Mordaunt.

In fourth and fifth were Suella Braverman, the Attorney General, and Nadhim Zahawi, the Chancellor.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/12/penny-mordaunt-would-see-every-tory-leadership-rival-grassroots/

[arista]

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20
Jeremy Hunt -20
Kemi Badenoch - 20 or above
Nadhim Zahawi - 20 or above
Suella Braverman - 20



I would assume Suella out first.

[bots]

if the threshold is 30, i would say anyone other than rishi or penny are in danger. Liz is basically the Boris legacy party so she is probably safe too

[joeysteele]

Rishi Sunak - 45
Penny Mordaunt - 25
Liz Truss - 21
Tom Tugendhat - 20
Jeremy Hunt -20
Kemi Badenoch - 20 or above
Nadhim Zahawi - 20 or above
Suella Braverman - 20



I would assume Suella out first.


arista.
How do you think Zahawi will do in the vote today.
I can't stand him myself really but you follow intensely Con issues
What's your feeling as to Zahawi after his farce in the 2 day period leading up to Johnson's resignation.

[Cherie]

arista.
How do you think Zahawi will do in the vote today.
I can't stand him myself really but you follow intensely Con issues
What's your feeling as to Zahawi after his farce in the 2 day period leading up to Johnson's resignation.

He is already supporting Rishi, so I think he knows he is toast, but laying down a marker to keep his job

[Cherie]

Apparently Rees-Mogg would refuse a Cabinet post if Sunak wins.

There's one plus for Sunak then for me.

However I do think Sunak has been planning a leadership challenge a fair while now as Cherie has just posted information on.

I think it was after Christmas that Rishi's non dom status was revealed leaked in retaliation I would think

[joeysteele]

He is already supporting Rishi, so I think he knows he is toast, but laying down a marker to keep his job

Crikey.
I can't keep up with them Cherie, :joker:

Actually I don't think Sunak should win this myself.
To be fair, Johnson is rightly condemned for his fine for breaking his covid laws.

Had he just brought the gathering to an end he wouldn't have been fined.
However Sunak was fined too.
So as Chancellor he should have said the gathering was wrong.

It's not really fair that he gets to carry on regardless while Johnson has that fine as part of his downfall.

Zahawi though, I've never taken to him.
They termed Gove a snake, I think Zahawi earns that badge much more than Gove.

[Zizu]

Who is if who has just said they would have Boris on their cabinet ??

This sounds like someone is throwing the dice / taking a calculated risk ..


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[bots]

i think they are all plotting constantly hoping that someone messes up along the way :laugh:

I've always thought that Zahawi was a bit thick. He fitted in rather well with all the other cabinet dimwits which seemed to be in abundance in the various Boris's cabinets.

Personally, i think Ben Wallace has played it right. I don't think any of this lot are up to the task of doing whats needed to get the country in recovery. It will be a labour government in 2 years, they will have 4 years of misery trying to put the country right and then it will be perfect timing for Ben to take the leadership and another Tory government

[arista]

arista.
How do you think Zahawi will do in the vote today.
I can't stand him myself really but you follow intensely Con issues
What's your feeling as to Zahawi after his farce in the 2 day period leading up to Johnson's resignation.


Yes he will go.


Live on the Green Now TOM

He is taking Questions

[Zizu]

i think they are all plotting constantly hoping that someone messes up along the way :laugh:

I've always thought that Zahawi was a bit thick. He fitted in rather well with all the other cabinet dimwits which seemed to be in abundance in the various Boris's cabinets.

Personally, i think Ben Wallace has played it right. I don't think any of this lot are up to the task of doing whats needed to get the country in recovery. It will be a labour government in 2 years, they will have 4 years of misery trying to put the country right and then it will be perfect timing for Ben to take the leadership and another Tory government


I think it’s Zahawi who has just said he will offer Boris a seat in his cabinet


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Tom Tugendhat, who last night made it onto the Tory leadership ballot, has called a snap
press conference in Westminster.

He is expected to use it to criticise Rishi Sunak's stance on defence spending.

It is expected to get underway imminently.

[arista]

Tom telling Beth of SkyNewsHD
off

[arista]

He has now Run off.


Mic unclipped Fast

[arista]

Penny Now Live

In a Room

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/13/10/60210403-0-image-m-8_1657703433022.jpg

[arista]

Penny is TALKING SLOW

Sod her

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tory Party has 'lost its sense of self'

Penny Mordaunt said that she believes "we don't need a new role in the world, we just
need to be ourselves".

She said that "recently I think our party has lost its sense of self" and that it needed to
"get back to" its standard messages of "low tax, small state, personal responsibility".

[arista]

Beth Rigby

What about a General Election?

Penny NO>

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/316274?crop=16_9&width=660&relax=1&signature=Y8XGTK3Yq3w_3QGKwcRWPrOGCMA=

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tory leader candidate Penny Mordaunt clarifies trans stance after gender recognition
controversy

She said she never supported self-identification of gender :think:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/penny-mordaunt-trans-rights/

[arista]

No General Election, LT.



Penny is Chicken


LIVE

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny Mordaunt said she does not want to talk about tax and spending but about "growth and competition".

[arista]

Her Last Question

What is Woman

Unlike Starmer

She Answered it

[joeysteele]

Aw poor Penny.
I kind of liked her before.
She didn't come across well.
Reminded me of Mrs May in 2016

Then too horrificly I see Andrea Leadsom supporting her.
That's enough to turn milk sour.

[Cherie]

Tom Tugendhat, who last night made it onto the Tory leadership ballot, has called a snap
press conference in Westminster.

He is expected to use it to criticise Rishi Sunak's stance on defence spending.

It is expected to get underway imminently.

Would love to see Tom as PM

[Cherie]

Crikey.
I can't keep up with them Cherie, :joker:

Actually I don't think Sunak should win this myself.
To be fair, Johnson is rightly condemned for his fine for breaking his covid laws.

Had he just brought the gathering to an end he wouldn't have been fined.
However Sunak was fined too.
So as Chancellor he should have said the gathering was wrong.

It's not really fair that he gets to carry on regardless while Johnson has that fine as part of his downfall.

Zahawi though, I've never taken to him.
They termed Gove a snake, I think Zahawi earns that badge much more than Gove.


Same, I think it is likely he will pull out today and back Rishi, really hoping Rishi doesn't get in

[Crimson Dynamo]

'I am the candidate that Labour fear the most'

Penny Mordaunt

[joeysteele]

Would love to see Tom as PM


I agree.
IF, I was a Con member it's Tom I'd vote for.
I see him as having more integrity too.

[bots]

what we are seeing is the reason why Boris got elected leader in the first place, they are all really pretty crap :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Suella Braverman has arrived to make her pitch to the 92 Group of Tory grandees and she is in great spirits

[joeysteele]

'I am the candidate that Labour fear the most'

Penny Mordaunt

I felt that way too myself as a Labour member.
Until this morning and her main launch.

As I said I felt it brought back Theresa May's kind of style.

Time will tell though.
This is very early days yet.
I fear 2 boring sets of a general election campaign possibly looming under a Mordaunt led Con Party and for goodness sake,a please wind.him up Starmer.

[arista]

Suella Braverman has arrived to make her pitch to the 92 Group of Tory grandees and she is in great spirits


No chance of winning

[arista]

Would love to see Tom as PM


No it is Rishi


All locked in now.

[Zizu]

Beth Rigby

What about a General Election?

Penny NO>


I’d like to see someone with a big hook just drag Beth away from the proceedings


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[arista]

I’d like to see someone with a big hook just drag Beth away from the proceedings





Yes, Beth is being deliberately Obtuse

[Zizu]

'I am the candidate that Labour fear the most'

Penny Mordaunt


Penny Mordaunt sounds ok ... does she have any skeletons or scandals in the background ??


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[Zizu]

Do we know which one said they will offer Boris a place in their cabinet ?


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny Mordaunt grilled on gender issues

Penny Mordaunt was asked after her campaign speech where she stood on gender
issues.

She said: “I think it was Margaret Thatcher that said that ‘every prime minister needs a
Willie’. A woman like me doesn’t have one.” :joker:

Asked to define a woman, Ms Mordaunt said: "I am a woman, I am biologically a
woman, and I can tell you that if you have been in the Royal Navy and you have
competed physically against men you understand the biological difference between men
and women."

[arista]

Do we know which one said they will offer Boris a place in their cabinet ?





No they do not want him
Slobby he will be

[arista]

Government to call its own vote of confidence
next week......................

[arista]

Starmer
taking the Piss of the Conservative Cabinet

[Zizu]

Starmer
taking the Piss of the Conservative Cabinet


Boris Johnson in top form again .. no wonder Labour want him gone ..


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[bots]

Penny Mordaunt grilled on gender issues

Penny Mordaunt was asked after her campaign speech where she stood on gender
issues.

She said: “I think it was Margaret Thatcher that said that ‘every prime minister needs a
Willie’. A woman like me doesn’t have one.” :joker:

Asked to define a woman, Ms Mordaunt said: "I am a woman, I am biologically a
woman, and I can tell you that if you have been in the Royal Navy and you have
competed physically against men you understand the biological difference between men
and women."

just to clarify, maggie was referring to her most trusted advisor William Whitelaw :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

battered starmer

[Zizu]

battered starmer


Sadly I don’t see anyone now who will be able to play around with Starmer like Boris has always done


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[joeysteele]

Starmer
taking the Piss of the Conservative Cabinet

I've thought all through Johnson's time as PM that it's been an absolute waste of time to engage in PMQs with him.

It's even moreso a waste of time this week and next.
With Johnson occupying the office now of PM as just a puppet.

Not really anything to go on.
So apart from the fury of the Speaker at the start with the ALBA MPs.
This PMQs and possibly next week's are in effect pointless.
This one definitely so.

Johnson's hands now in effect tied, so nothing to really ask or go on about really.

[Zizu]

I've thought all through Johnson's time as PM that it's been an absolute waste of time to engage in PMQs with him.

It's even moreso a waste of time this week and next.
With Johnson occupying the office now of PM as just a puppet.

Not really anything to go on.
So apart from the fury of the Speaker at the start with the ALBA MPs.
This PMQs and possibly next week's are in effect pointless.
This one definitely so.

Johnson's hands now in effect tied, so nothing to really ask or go on about really.


Is there any point in PMQs though ?

What do they ever achieve


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[bots]

the point in pmq's is not necessarily the answer thats given, but the content of the question itself. By asking the question, the person is publicly highlighting a topic that can then be discussed further in the public domain

[Crimson Dynamo]

the point in pmq's is not necessarily the answer thats given, but the content of the question itself. By asking the question, the person is publicly highlighting a topic that can then be discussed further in the public domain

also an MP can bring a local issue to the national level

[arista]

A new YouGov Poll

Has Penny in the Lead, again

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/13/13/60216823-11009519-Speaker_Sir_Lindsay_Hoyle_ordered_the_removal_of_A lba_MPs_Neale_-a-1_1657713987245.jpg

Two RUDE Alba MP's dragged out at the start of PMQ's

[Zizu]

the point in pmq's is not necessarily the answer thats given, but the content of the question itself. By asking the question, the person is publicly highlighting a topic that can then be discussed further in the public domain


Fair enough
Ta


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[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good answer. 👇 <a href="https://t.co/agEJXObLwZ">https://t.co/agEJXObLwZ</a></p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1547158658580185089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/13/13/60217645-11009519-Mr_MacAskill_continued_to_stand_in_defiance_of_Sir _Lindsay_s_ord-a-3_1657713987246.jpg
[Alba Party Mr MacAskill continued to stand in defiance
of Sir Lindsay's orders as Mr Johnson attempted to begin PMQs]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11009519/PMQs-delayed-two-Alba-Party-MPs-KICKED-febrile-Commons-berating-Boris-Johnson.html

[bots]

result of first round expected at 5pm. Let's see if Penny is the favourite in reality

[arista]

[Results of latest Tory leadership knockout at 5PM:
Blow for Rishi as bombshell poll finds frontrunner
would LOSE to Liz Truss OR Penny Mordaunt in
head-to-head ballot of party members - as MPs
vote to decide who will stay in contest

Rishi Sunak has been endorsed by
Boris Johnson ally Steve Barclay as he
racks up support from Tory MPs
Former Chancellor's team is said to
be trying to make victory look 'inevitable'
with huge number of backers
Penny Mordaunt has officially launched
her campaign promising to restore
the Conservatives' 'sense of self'
They are among eight hopefuls who
have made the first round of voting today
but not all will survive the ballot
Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries last
night accused Team Sunak of the 'dark arts'
and 'dirty tricks' on Twitter]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11009845/Blow-Rishi-Sunak-Tory-MPs-brace-vote-TODAY.html

[bots]

if the tory membership want Penny, a lot of mp's will switch over to her and quite a few of the candidates could struggle to get the magic 30 today

[arista]

if the tory membership want Penny, a lot of mp's will switch over to her and quite a few of the candidates could struggle to get the magic 30 today


Good

[Alf]

Hunt is going to pull out

Heard it on the grapevine.

[bots]

he will be booted out before he withdraws :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Really looking forward to seeing the results of this first vote.
Despite my not being a Con.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A good day for Penny and perhaps Tom....

[bots]

i don't think anyone would have predicted penny to be the new PM a week ago :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Interesting.
Pleased Zahawi is out the running.

Even more pleased Hunt won't get the chance to inflict the awful Esther McVey as deputy PM on the Nation plus he came last.

[bots]

Hunt lost at least 2 votes from yesterday which is quite funny

[Denver]

i don't think anyone would have predicted penny to be the new PM a week ago :laugh:

I put it on her actually

[Denver]

Rishi pledges are pretty funny, he wants to increase what he has already done ro screw over the public which won't see him voted in

[Zizu]

Rishi pledges are pretty funny, he wants to increase what he has already done ro screw over the public which won't see him voted in


Nobody will vote for him - he’s too soft


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[Zizu]

I wish David Starkey was running for PM !!


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[Cherie]

Hunt lost at least 2 votes from yesterday which is quite funny

There was a suggestion some Rishi supporters lent him their vote yesterday looks like that was the case

[Zizu]

Interesting to hear a couple of MPs stating categorically that there is no way that Rishi will be PM as he’s just too unpopular with the MPs in general and whoever goes up against him in the final two .. will win


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[Cherie]

Interesting to hear a couple of MPs stating categorically that there is no way that Rishi will be PM as he’s just too unpopular with the MPs in general and whoever goes up against him in the final two .. will win


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They are not ready for Rishi

[bots]

Interesting to hear a couple of MPs stating categorically that there is no way that Rishi will be PM as he’s just too unpopular with the MPs in general and whoever goes up against him in the final two .. will win


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i'm not convinced, they have an agenda, so i wouldn't believe them. :laugh:

There are 3 candidates from the right wing of the party, as they drop out, their votes will be transferred to the one thats left. So, for example, add 60 votes to Liz and she takes the lead over Sunak

[arista]

Interesting.
Pleased Zahawi is out the running.

Even more pleased Hunt won't get the chance to inflict the awful Esther McVey as deputy PM on the Nation plus he came last.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/13/17/60229935-0-image-m-12_1657729627317.jpg

[arista]

Lucky 6

Rishi Sunak: 88 (MP's Backing)

Penny Mordaunt: 67 (MP's Backing)


Liz Truss: 50 (MP's Backing)


Kemi Badenoch: 40 (MP's Backing)


Tom Tugendhat: 37 (MP's Backing)


Suella Braverman: 32 (MP's Backing)

[Zizu]

The online polls all favour Penny Mordaunt


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[arista]

TV Debates Conservative Leaders

1. Ch4HD Live 7:30PM Friday
2 ITV1HD Live 7PM Sunday
3 SkyNewsHD Monday

[bots]

Sunak's vote is close to being maxed out, he wont take many votes from other candidates. Liz could gain 70 votes and Penny could gain 80, so, for me the last 2 are likely to be Liz and Penny

That would make it

Mordaunt 147
Truss 120
Sunak 88

[arista]

New Tonight 30Mins Panorama

BBC1HD 8PM Downfall Of Boris Johnson

[bots]

at least outwardly, Boris is putting on a good show in defeat, he hasn't reached the depths of trump .... yet

[joeysteele]

If it came down to Mordaunt and Truss.
I'd hope Mordaunt won.

Couldn't bear smug Rees-Mogg and the uselessly deluded Nadine Dorries getting their candidate winning.

[arista]

BBC1HD 30mins docu on now

Johnson.

[Crimson Dynamo]

bh_xHE1FmMI

[arista]

Yes LT that was just yesterday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes LT that was just yesterday.

Yes but after her great day today I thought id post it.

Tomorrow in Iain Dale is Kemi

from 7pm LBC

[Zizu]

bh_xHE1FmMI


She comes across well ..

I kinda like her which is practically unheard of ..


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[bots]

Penny does come over well

[bots]

She comes across well ..

I kinda like her which is practically unheard of ..


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snap :laugh: