The Conservative Party New Leader race ELIZABETH TRUSS WINS

[Oliver_W]

it's pretty interesting how she is being targeted. Does anyone think she will be worse than any of the other candidates where funding and associations with dodgy people is concerned because I don't

Fair point. As you say, I'd be surprised if any of them didn't have dodgy donors. As for the self-ID thing, as long as she doesn't actually push it forward should she get the position...

[bots]

Fair point. As you say, I'd be surprised if any of them didn't have dodgy donors. As for the self-ID thing, as long as she doesn't actually push it forward should she get the position...

she couldn't push it forward on her own and there are enough people in the tory party against it to stop it dead in it's tracks, so i don't even know why it's being discussed to be honest other than to try and create mistrust toward her

I think all the candidates are grim in one respect or another, i just find it interesting that the knives are out for her

[ThomasC]

Please don't let it be Rishi who wins.

That's all I'd say. Maybe Tom or Penny for PM.

[ThomasC]

It should be the general public who decide anyway!!

So much for living on a democracy

[bots]

It should be the general public who decide anyway!!

So much for living on a democracy

they get their opportunity at the GE

[arista]

It should be the general public who decide anyway!!

So much for living on a democracy


No
New Labour Tony Blair gave his job to Gordon Brown



NO ELECTION then

Was there TC

[Crimson Dynamo]

No
New Labour Tony Blair gave his job to Gordon Brown



NO ELECTION then

Was there TC

and it was disaster

[arista]

and it was disaster


Yes he got scared of an Election

[bots]

whoever wins the leadership doesn't have to call an election for 2 years but they will nevertheless. Their ego will make them call an election within a year

[arista]

IDS

Put the boot into Penny
He has no idea what she achieved while being in Government

On SkyNewsHD Ridge 8:30AM Full show
I record

[smudgie]

Starting to look like they all think Penny has it in the bag.
Nasty politics.

[Zizu]

it's pretty interesting how she is being targeted. Does anyone think she will be worse than any of the other candidates where funding and associations with dodgy people is concerned because I don't


I agree ... just more dirty political tactics

This is precisely why I hate politics


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[Zizu]

they get their opportunity at the GE


Not really - if the MPs choose the two we get to vote for ..


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[arista]

Times Radio DAB
now has permission to play the 8PM SkyNewsHD Live
Tuesday Conservative Leaders debate in full
could be just 2 of them, by then.

Good news
it is also Free Online on youtube in Full HD 1080P

[Zizu]

whoever wins the leadership doesn't have to call an election for 2 years but they will nevertheless. Their ego will make them call an election within a year


Why would they risk losing everything in a general election that they may well lose.

We know that they are all selfish, self-serving individuals


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5480&stc=1&d=1658061883

[bots]

Why would they risk losing everything in a general election that they may well lose.

We know that they are all selfish, self-serving individuals


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Brown, May and Boris all called an election. They do it because their ego makes them believe they can win it easily. Also, timing wise, an early election is probably advisable before everyone really starts to suffer

[Zizu]

Brown, May and Boris all called an election. They do it because their ego makes them believe they can win it easily. Also, timing wise, an early election is probably advisable before everyone really starts to suffer



It makes no sense to me but I know diddly squat squared about politics


I certainly wouldn’t.. I’d spend two years sorting the main problems out to give us a better chance of winning


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[Oliver_W]

It should be the general public who decide anyway!!

So much for living on a democracy

How is it not democratic? Prime Ministers aren't elected, they're the leader of the party with the most MPs. The Conservative party currently is the largest party, so it's democratic that the PM is a Tory.

[Oliver_W]

Random but it's interesting how every PM since and including Thatcher resigned before their current term was up.

[Gusto Brunt]

I was thinking last week that Penny was PM material but her performance the other night was terrible.

She stood there and looked like a block of wood. Had no enthusiasm at all.

And whatever she said, just sounded like she had rehearsed it all.

But something else: WHY THIS obsession with what a woman is??? I don't care what a woman is or what a man is. Such braindead debate. The media are obsessed with it. Julia on Talk TV gets her knickers in a twist every day about it. Get a life! :p

The real issue is the cost of living crisis!

But Penny will definitely have to up her game tonight or she could go in 4th place.

**Also, I don't get the love for Badenoch. To me, she comes across as bland and 'meh'.

But she is painted as some kind of saviour. Crazy. Who is behind this tripe? Who is promoting this dross?

NEXT! :p

[arista]

I was thinking last week that Penny was PM material but her performance the other night was terrible.

She stood there and looked like a block of wood. Had no enthusiasm at all.

And whatever she said, just sounded like she had rehearsed it all.

But something else: WHY THIS obsession with what a woman is??? I don't care what a woman is or what a man is. Such braindead debate. The media are obsessed with it. Julia on Talk TV gets her knickers in a twist every day about it. Get a life! :p

The real issue is the cost of living crisis!

But Penny will definitely have to up her game tonight or she could go in 4th place.

**Also, I don't get the love for Badenoch. To me, she comes across as bland and 'meh'.

But she is painted as some kind of saviour. Crazy. Who is behind this tripe? Who is promoting this dross?

NEXT! :p



Yes will ITV put Kemi next to her again
tonight?

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes will ITV put Kemi next to her again
tonight?

Yes.

[bots]

there aren't any stand out politicians from any party at the moment, mainly i think, because they are all career politicians

[Gusto Brunt]

there aren't any stand out politicians from any party at the moment, mainly i think, because they are all career politicians

I just laughed at Sunak.

He said to Penny, where was she gonna get the money from for her financial plans. She missed a trick there. She should have told Sunak she WOULD have been able to use the £12 BILLION he gave away to fraud and wrote off.

Sunak is running to put right the mess he created. :joker::joker:

[Oliver_W]

But something else: WHY THIS obsession with what a woman is??? I don't care what a woman is or what a man is. Such braindead debate. The media are obsessed with it. Julia on Talk TV gets her knickers in a twist every day about it. Get a life! :p



It's a hot button topic as MRAs want women's rights to given to men who identify as women. Women's sports and spaces are just expected to step aside for them.

It's a big talking point because places are taking the knee to the issue, and we see women getting villified for saying that maybe vulnerable women shouldn't be made to share a ward with males and that it's unfair for women to compete against males.

[bots]

Conservative leadership hopeful Penny Mordaunt has called for an end to toxic politics, saying the focus needs to be on picking a new prime minister.

She told the BBC there were a "number of smears going on in the papers" and hit back at claims that she had ever backed gender self-identification.

Ms Mordaunt is one of five candidates left in the leadership race, ahead of the next round of voting on Monday.

Tom Tugendhat meanwhile said the Tories needed a "clean start".

Ms Mordaunt - second in the contest according to the latest round of MPs' votes - told the Sunday Morning programme the cost-of-living crisis was her priority.

She was also questioned about her stance on how people should be allowed to legally change their gender, after questions were raised during the contest about her record when she was equalities minister.

Asked by Sophie Raworth whether she thought trans people should have to get a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria before they could legally change their gender, she said: "Yes."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62196547

[Gusto Brunt]

It's a hot button topic as MRAs want women's rights to given to men who identify as women. Women's sports and spaces are just expected to step aside for them.

It's a big talking point because places are taking the knee to the issue, and we see women getting villified for saying that maybe vulnerable women shouldn't be made to share a ward with males and that it's unfair for women to compete against males.

Yes I believe trans women should be kept out of women's sports. It's only right. But this constant debate about what a woman is sends me crazy. It's like is that the only thing that matters?? Like I said Julia on Talk TV is obsessed.

[arista]

[Labour 'not worried' by any Conservative leadership candidate

The final guest on today's Ridge on Sunday programme
is Bridget Phillipson, shadow education secretary.
Ms Phillipson criticises Conservative leadership
candidate Kemi Badenoch, suggesting that
her comments on cutting down on the
number of support staff in schools is concerning.
"I am not worried about any of them,"
she says of the five remaining Tory leadership hopefuls.
She adds that Labour will "be clear"
about how they would fund any policy put forward.]


SkyNews Feed.

[arista]

Live Tonight From ITV's White City studios

In under 25mins,

Julie Etchingham takes them all on

Also on the ITV News website,
YouTube channel,
Facebook and Twitter.


Video of the Set
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-07-15/when-where-and-how-to-watch-the-itv-tory-leadership-debate

[arista]

Started a Min Early


LIVE

[arista]

Rishi , Liz, Kemi, Tom and Penny


Lucky Penny not next to Kemi.


No Audience

[arista]

Kemi remembers her Days in
working McDonalds

[Zizu]

I’m already sick of TomT’s constant army references ..

“ I’m ready to serve “

I’ve found nothing online to suggest he was a war hero or whatever .
He was in the TA ( part-time role as an officer in the British Army reserves) for about ten years .. 4 of them were in a civilian capacity, for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO), and helped set up the National Security Council of Afghanistan


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[bots]

Kemi remembers her Days in
working McDonalds

and cleaning toilets :laugh:

[arista]

This is they can fight each other

[arista]

and cleaning toilets :laugh:



Yes
Sign of a Dedicated Junior worker

[bots]

This is they can fight each other

its more interactive and interesting

[arista]

Penny does not understand
why Rishi does not know
the Public need help, now.

[arista]

its more interactive and interesting



Yes Good Idea


Nothing like the Ch4HD audience edition



SkyNewsHD 8PM on Tuesday
has an Audience on Screens

[arista]

Tom we all know about Russia

[arista]

Liz wanting Japan's System

[arista]

Tom Jam Tomorrow
No Bread Today

Rishi Brings in Starmers views

[bots]

Penny is coming over well

[arista]

Penny is coming over well


Yes far better on this Format

[bots]

no-one would have boris in their cabinet :laugh:

[arista]

no-one would have boris in their cabinet :laugh:



Yes Makes Sense,

[joeysteele]

[Labour 'not worried' by any Conservative leadership candidate

The final guest on today's Ridge on Sunday programme
is Bridget Phillipson, shadow education secretary.
Ms Phillipson criticises Conservative leadership
candidate Kemi Badenoch, suggesting that
her comments on cutting down on the
number of support staff in schools is concerning.
"I am not worried about any of them,"
she says of the five remaining Tory leadership hopefuls.
She adds that Labour will "be clear"
about how they would fund any policy put forward.]


SkyNews Feed.



After friday's programme and the way this one is shaping up.
It would surprise me if any of these can turn around enough, the voters who now hold more negative views towards the Cons.

This programme isn't I think doing anything to show them in a good light as a Party.

[bots]

if Tom mentions "when i was in the military" one more time i will scream

[arista]

if Tom mentions "when i was in the military" one more time i will scream


Yes he does become a Parrot at times

[Zizu]

More flamin army references from our TomT


Yawn


Is he gonna be like this in PMQS ?


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[arista]

"This programme isn't I think doing anything to show them in a good light as a Party."


I think it is.
Great, there is no audience



Also Far Better than that horrid & crude
Online Conservative Home
very first one
Shown in full on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Kemi Vs Penny

Again.

[bots]

i think we get a clearer idea of what they are actually about in this format. Non tories may not like what they hear, and i include myself in that, but i think its a more honest format

[Zizu]

if Tom mentions "when i was in the military" one more time i will scream


Even one of his friends ( fellow MP ) pulled his leg on TV last night .. he said he won a bet on how long he’d take to mention his time in the army ..

It’s apparently a running joke with all the MPs !!

That sounds like he’s a bit of a fun figure with everyone.. how can he be taken seriously if that’s the case


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[Zizu]

I can just see TomT hiding behind a line of trench sandbags when he’s across against Starmer in the PMQS ..


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[joeysteele]

I don't mind Tom referencing his Army connection.

Respect for our servicemen is and should be high.

He criticised heavily the government's actions on the withdrawal from Afghanistan which he was right to do.
Plus he has the knowledge of what the armed forces are often up against and wrongly put up against.

Leadership is important in the armed forces.
He's right to point out that out.

Truss keeps on about fighting Putin too.
As if she's out there on the front line.
Crikey, imagine that.

[joeysteele]

If Truss wins the Con leadership.
I think Labour could get even more votes in the next election than against the other 4.

[Zizu]

I don’t know if he’ll be any good but Rishi does come across fairly well .

He does appear to be genuine and assured

I don’t get that at all from Truss or TomT

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[arista]

Kemi asks Rishi
a Question.

[arista]

Rishi asks Liz

About being a LibDem

[bots]

what i don't like about Sunak is that he refuses to recognise the realities of the hardships that people are experiencing now. All his responses take years to implement

[arista]

Liz asks Rishi

about China

[arista]

Penny asks Rishi

About his lack of defence spending

[joeysteele]

This section is not the wisest.
Near all questions to one candidate only.

[arista]

Tom Asks Penny

[joeysteele]

Sadly Penny looks like a ' I have plans now but will reveal later'.
A bit like Johnson kicking things into the long grass because of NO detailed planning at all in place.

[arista]

Yes
Alok Sharma wants to know.

Will they back him.

[arista]

Closing Statements

Well Done ITV.

[arista]

Liz says we only have 2 years.

No General Election from of any them
Why should they
Gordon Brown Took over in New Labour.
Did not call one until they call one until the last moment.

[joeysteele]

Sorry, I didn't like this format.

It just opened up for more confrontation than to REALLY inform and to be able to learn anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i going to watch now on +1

been in garden

[Crimson Dynamo]

kemi looks great

[bots]

Tom reminds me of Uncle Albert :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liz: "families are struggling with food bills"

no we dont get bills for food you utter drongo

:facepalm:

[bots]

Liz: "families are struggling with food bills"

no we dont get bills for food you utter drongo

:facepalm:

she delivered everything though :hehe:

[arista]

i going to watch now on +1

been in garden



I liked the Format.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think we should have songs

Rishi: "Tonight i am Right said Fred"

Liz: " tonight I am “I’ve Got all This Ringing in my Ears and None on My Fingers” by Fall Out Boy

Penny: Tonight I am Skrewdriver singing "White Power"

its ITV ffs

[Zizu]

Liz says we only have 2 years.

No General Election from of any them
Why should they
Gordon Brown Took over in New Labour.
Did not call one until they call one until the last moment.


As I predicted


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[bots]

it was pretty brutal the way they attacked each other. I don't think they will be able to walk any of it back once the new leader is chosen

[Zizu]

what i don't like about Sunak is that he refuses to recognise the realities of the hardships that people are experiencing now. All his responses take years to implement


Guess he’ll never really appreciate how difficult it is for poor ones at the bottom - given his wealth


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry, I didn't like this format.

It just opened up for more confrontation than to REALLY inform and to be able to learn anything.

agreed

its like

say a slogan

NEXT

say a slogan

NEXT

[bots]

the stand out for me is that anything they could get blamed for they label cabinet collective responsibility, anything else, it was all their individual good work

None of the candidates would be a good leader by my definition, but i'm not their target audience

[Zizu]

the stand out for me is that anything they could get blamed for they label cabinet collective responsibility, anything else, it was all their individual good work

None of the candidates would be a good leader by my definition, but i'm not their target audience


Typical political behaviour, surely ?


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[Crimson Dynamo]

a terrible "debate"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Breaking: Rishi Sunak narrow winner among public, poll suggests

Out of 1,001 people surveyed by Opinium as part of a snap poll, 24 per cent thought
Rishi Sunak won, with the former Chancellor closely followed by Tom Tugendhat (19 per
cent).

Penny Mourdant ranked third with 17 per cent, followed by Liz Truss (15 per cent) and
Kemi Badenoch (12 per cent).

DT

[bots]

how could Tom "did i tell you what i did during the war" possibly come second

[Zizu]

how could Tom "did i tell you what i did during the war" possibly come second


Guess it won’t matter if the MPs don’t rate him - as he won’t get to the final two .


I kinda feel that Rishi and Truss have already got this sown up by offering jobs out left , right and centre .

Then when it goes to the public vote very few will vote for Rishi


Loads of MPs are on record as saying WHOEVER goes up against Rushi will WIN !!


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[Zizu]

I’m already sick of TomT’s constant army references ..

“ I’m ready to serve “

I’ve found nothing online to suggest he was a war hero or whatever .
He was in the TA ( part-time role as an officer in the British Army reserves) for about ten years .. 4 of them were in a civilian capacity, for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO), and helped set up the National Security Council of Afghanistan


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Interesting

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220717/66d965dc5b043e054e634f51eb07601f.jpg


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[joeysteele]

a terrible "debate"

You are right.
I didn't like it at all.

[smudgie]

Hoping it’s Rishi and Penny.

[Zizu]

Hoping it’s Rishi and Penny.


I get the impression that the MPs will cast her aside for some reason


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220717/66d965dc5b043e054e634f51eb07601f.jpg


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Hardly a good survey ffs

[Oliver_W]

I’ve found nothing online to suggest he was a war hero or whatever .

https://comicbookandbeyond.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Yoda-saying-1024x581.jpg

[bots]

You had to keep reminding yourself these were five people who are actually in the same party.

And the two of them taking the greatest lumps out of each other sat around the same cabinet table a fortnight ago.

Changing leaders between elections can offer a party a chance to renew in office.

It also offers plentiful opportunity for it to rip itself to shreds in public.

There are nerves in Conservative circles that Sunday evening's debate was rather more the latter than the former.

So after a weekend of two and a half hours of primetime television debate and acres of newsprint, where do we find ourselves as we enter the second week of the Conservative leadership contest?

TV debates serve up real jeopardy, particularly for those with the most to lose.

On Friday's debate on Channel 4, the two outsiders, in terms of their support among Conservative MPs so far at least, seemed to relish it, perhaps pleasantly surprised they had made it so far.

Kemi Badenoch and Tom Tugendhat were probably the least known to most viewers, and with little to lose.

Whereas the big three, in terms of votes so far, Rishi Sunak, Penny Mordaunt and Liz Truss, feared going backwards; denting their solid starts.

Things felt different in the ITV debate.

The format, for a start.

Without the punctuation marks of a live audience in the studio, with its questions and applause, and with the addition of some nifty ideas such as each candidate being able to put a question to just one other, the exchanges felt sharper, more spiky.

The candidates addressed each other rather than the audience in the studio, and often archly.

Team Truss are candid: "Liz was better tonight that on Friday" one aide told me.

"She is the clear heavyweight on the economy to rival Rishi. That was a battle of the grown ups between Liz and Rishi, with Liz the 'change' candidate on the economy," a source added.

They want to portray a Sunak premiership - economically at least - as more of the same as what's gone before, without the scruffy blonde hair.

Yet again Mr Sunak was the focus of most, if not all of the barbs coming from his opponents.

Or, we should remind ourselves, colleagues.

I'm told his question to Liz Truss, "what do you regret most, being a Lib Dem or being a Remainer?" was meant to be light hearted.

It didn't sound anything of the sort. More like a laser guided zap at her true Conservative credentials.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62202108

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[letmein]

Liz: "families are struggling with food bills"

no we dont get bills for food you utter drongo

:facepalm:

You get them when you go to pay for your food, silly. Unless you’re stealing it.

[bots]

will be interesting if the debates had any affect on the mp's voting later today

[arista]

will be interesting if the debates had any affect on the mp's voting later today


Many still see Tom
to be kicked out of the race

[arista]

Penny Team Editing
a tweet

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[joeysteele]

Many still see Tom
to be kicked out of the race

Sadly I expect that too.

It reveals a lot about the narrow Conservative voting that the candidate who it was claimed in polling done, easily topped the first debate and was also 2nd in the next debate.
Will likely be out.

While the waste of space Truss, who was LAST in the first debate and 2nd bottom in the next has strong support.

They are AGAIN charging in to elect the WRONG choice again.

Then again however Labour has that same problem too.

All it means though as a result is the UK is left with the worst of political leaders.
For the main 3 UK wide party leaders I doubt the UK has been so badly served by them as it is now.

[bots]

i can't see how the last 10 days has done anything to increase peoples trust in Westminster :joker:

I mean really, if someone wrote it as fiction it would be considered far fetched fantasy :laugh:

[arista]

1548745073793175552

[arista]

Nasty Tweets against Rishi


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[joeysteele]

i can't see how the last 10 days has done anything to increase peoples trust in Westminster :joker:

I mean really, if someone wrote it as fiction it would be considered far fetched fantasy :laugh:

I've always liked the saying.
Truth is stranger than fiction.

[arista]

Guardian Cartoonist

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[arista]

Left Wing Activists


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[arista]

Today the results
of the next MP to go from the race

is Live at 8PM


Ref :LBC

[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

Apparently the Sky debate is off.
Sunak and Truss not keen on doing it, so the news has just said.

[bots]

Apparently the Sky debate is off.
Sunak and Truss not keen on doing it, so the news has just said.

they obviously think it's doing their chances harm. Only penny and tim would do the bbc question and answers yesterday, the others all refused

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel on point...


A couple of days after Boris Johnson resigned, I was told by a wealthy Tory
donor that the big business backers had decided they wanted Liz Truss to win.
Why? Because she's the one they think would be easiest to manipulate. I was
slightly shocked to hear this – which probably does explain, of course, why I'm
not a billionaire.

Given that we have a Stop Rishi campaign, it seems clear to me that Truss
will make it through to the last two and will subsequently win with the
membership. Just think of it. A Remain-voting, former card-carrying and
conference-speaking member of Liberal Democrats, who once endorsed
Republicanism, a woman who voted for May's disastrous deal three times,
will likely lead the Conservative Party and post-Brexit Britain. You simply
couldn't make it up. It is possible that she now believes in dealing with the
Northern Ireland protocol and genuine conservatism, but I doubt it. All I see
here is a careerist. How did it come to this?

Her public performances are weak to the point of being laughable (just look
at her reading out her closing statement last night) and she will not connect
with working-class Britain. I think that the Conservative Party is in much
bigger trouble than it understands. If only Boris Johnson had told the truth
and fulfilled his manifesto pledges. Alas he did not, and the final insult to us
all is 6 more weeks of this protracted and uninspiring leadership campaign.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/07/18/debates-show-tories-bigger-trouble-realise/

[bots]

the tories are out at the next election. It's pretty incredible that they stood a better chance of winning when led by a serial liar :laugh:

[bots]

Sky News has cancelled its Conservative leadership debate after Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss pulled out from the event.

The debate was due to be hosted by Kay Burley tomorrow evening.

Conservative MPs are said to be concerned about the damage the debates are doing to the image of the party, exposing disagreements and splits.

Head of Sky News, John Ryley, said: "Sky News has campaigned for an independent commission to organise the running of TV debates between leaders of Britain's main parties.

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-cancels-conservative-leadership-debate-after-sunak-and-truss-pull-out-12654286

[Cherie]

I hope Tom at least gets a job in the cabinet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Conservative MPs are said to be concerned about the damage the debates are doing to the image of the party

:laugh2:

Conservative MPs are said to be concerned about the damage the debates are doing to Liz Truss

more like

[bots]

Tory Party, last week: "We want these TV debates because we're keen that the public get to know the candidates. One of them will be their next PM, and they should feel involved in the process."

Tory Party, this week: "We don't want these TV debates because we're concerned that the public might be getting to know the candidates. One of them will be their next PM, whether they like it or not."

----------------------------------

:joker:

[arista]

Sky News has cancelled its Conservative leadership debate after Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss pulled out from the event.

The debate was due to be hosted by Kay Burley tomorrow evening.

Conservative MPs are said to be concerned about the damage the debates are doing to the image of the party, exposing disagreements and splits.

Head of Sky News, John Ryley, said: "Sky News has campaigned for an independent commission to organise the running of TV debates between leaders of Britain's main parties.

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-cancels-conservative-leadership-debate-after-sunak-and-truss-pull-out-12654286


Sunak was doing OK

To pull out is Chicken

[arista]

Apparently the Sky debate is off.
Sunak and Truss not keen on doing it, so the news has just said.


Scared of Kay Burley.....................

[bots]

maybe Rishi and Liz will have been eliminated by then, they are assuming a lot

[Gusto Brunt]

Sky News has cancelled its Conservative leadership debate after Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss pulled out from the event.

The debate was due to be hosted by Kay Burley tomorrow evening.

Conservative MPs are said to be concerned about the damage the debates are doing to the image of the party, exposing disagreements and splits.

Head of Sky News, John Ryley, said: "Sky News has campaigned for an independent commission to organise the running of TV debates between leaders of Britain's main parties.

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-news-cancels-conservative-leadership-debate-after-sunak-and-truss-pull-out-12654286

They haven't got anything new to say, have they? And what they have said already is forgettable.

[Zizu]

Scared of Kay Burley.....................


She would probably quiz Liz Truss about her fling ...


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[arista]

If I ran SkyNews

I would do the Debate without those 2
So just Penny and Kemi

Would do fine

Signs with their names in Big
on the Empty Space
of the 2 chicken MP's

[bots]

They haven't got anything new to say, have they? And what they have said already is forgettable.

rishi would continue to act honestly and responsibly with the economy, liz would continue to deliver, deliver, deliver. Penny would continue to answer the questions later, Kimi would toss another burger and Tom would recite another of his famous army anecdotes

[arista]

maybe Rishi and Liz will have been eliminated by then, they are assuming a lot



It was set for Tomorrow Live 8PM
with Audience on screens



Be so funny if those 2 got knocked out of the race

[arista]

The Slow BBC
should not do a Live debate


And GBnewsHD

[Gusto Brunt]

rishi would continue to act honestly and responsibly with the economy, liz would continue to deliver, deliver, deliver. Penny would continue to answer the questions later, Kimi would toss another burger and Tom would recite another of his famous army anecdotes

Best it's not happening then.:joker::joker:

[arista]

rishi would continue to act honestly and responsibly with the economy, liz would continue to deliver, deliver, deliver. Penny would continue to answer the questions later, Kimi would toss another burger and Tom would recite another of his famous army anecdotes


By Tuesday 8PM Live
Tom would be GONE

[Cherie]

Tory Party, last week: "We want these TV debates because we're keen that the public get to know the candidates. One of them will be their next PM, and they should feel involved in the process."

Tory Party, this week: "We don't want these TV debates because we're concerned that the public might be getting to know the candidates. One of them will be their next PM, whether they like it or not."

----------------------------------

:joker:

:joker:

[Oliver_W]

Is the next eviction being announced today?

[bots]

Is the next eviction being announced today?

it's 8pm tonight if boris has cleared the bottles away from his latest party

[arista]

Is the next eviction being announced today?


Yes LBC confirmed it is Live 8PM Tonight


Poor Tom
will go, most are predicting.

[arista]

it's 8pm tonight if boris has cleared the bottles away from his latest party


Not in London


Chequers

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-holding-farewell-party-at-grace-and-favour-country-estate-chequers-this-weekend-12653036

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FX86kFsWYAAKhCD?format=jpg&name=small


ITV / Daily Mirror Going to the Guardian / SkyNews
SkyNews / ITV / BBC



Out of them, Paul Brand ITN
is doing good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

GkTcpReo7_U

[Zizu]

rishi would continue to act honestly and responsibly with the economy, liz would continue to deliver, deliver, deliver. Penny would continue to answer the questions later, Kimi would toss another burger and Tom would recite another of his famous army anecdotes


I was looking forward, eagerly for some more of Tom’s “‘I severed in the army “ references


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[Gusto Brunt]

https://www.you.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/SEI63111976eddit.jpg

The good old days.:joker:

[arista]

Johnson Now Live in Parliament



Live Motion of Confidence

[arista]

Angela (Not in Trousers)
And Keir are there

How nice for them.

[Zizu]

It was set for Tomorrow Live 8PM
with Audience on screens



Be so funny if those 2 got knocked out of the race


It certainly looks very poor to pull out of live debates set up to show us their qualities and failings


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[arista]

Johnson going through the Best of his years

[arista]

Independent MP Jeremy Corbyn

Wants him to stop
talking

[joeysteele]

Time for me to leave this channel.

Thankfully the days of his mad ever racing ranting soon to be over.

I wonder if he'll ever get to his ever growing list of deceit and lies and lawbreaking.
I doubt it.

On a day as hot as this one, last thing needed is this deluded ranting odious creep screaming frantically out of the television screens.

His delivery is pathetic.

[bots]

i'm not going to give a proven liar another moment of my time

[arista]

Time for me to leave this channel.

Thankfully the days of his mad ever racing ranting soon to be over.

I wonder if he'll ever get to his ever growing list of deceit and lies and lawbreaking.
I doubt it.

On a day as hot as this one, last thing needed is this deluded ranting odious creep screaming frantically out of the television screens.

His delivery is pathetic.


There is a Ch5HDnews Live
Heatwave special on.

[arista]

i'm not going to give a proven liar another moment of my time


He is having loads of digs at Starmer

[arista]

Johnson has Concluded.


Now Starmer is Talking

[Gusto Brunt]

There was an 'expert' on the radio just now who said it looks like Sunak will be first and Truss second. With Truss becoming PM. :nono:

He then went on to say that the nasty dirty attacks on Penny seemed to have worked and she won't be in 2nd place.

Fine isn't it. Dirty tricks to make sure who 'wins'.

The prospect of Truss being our PM is horrific. The woman couldn't stack shelves. She's all wrong. She looks wrong. Everything about her is wrong.

I'll give her 10 months and she too will be out.

[bots]

penny was never likely to finish in the top 2. The right wing vote when consolidated with truss after the others drop out will likely put her ahead of Rishi. Penny could still do it if she picks up Tom's voters but that is looking less and less likely

[Gusto Brunt]

penny was never likely to finish in the top 2. The right wing vote when consolidated with truss after the others drop out will likely put her ahead of Rishi. Penny could still do it if she picks up Tom's voters but that is looking less and less likely

Apparently, she was 'favourite' before the attacks. Go back and look at all the news reports.

[arista]

Starmer just said a Minister gave the Middle Finger to the Public,

Bollocks

She stuck her finger up at a Swearing Left Wing Activist Gang
outside the Entrance to 10 Downing St

[Cherie]

Truss will be abysmal, Starmer must be rubbing his hands in glee

[bots]

Apparently, she was 'favourite' before the attacks. Go back and look at all the news reports.

she was favourite in polls of tory members, not tory mp's .... and this is all about mp's. She hasn't handled things very well in the debates and that will have lost her support. Truss was dire, but her voter base is more nailed on

[arista]

Truss will be abysmal, Starmer must be rubbing his hands in glee



Truss is watching
Starmer Live in Parliament

[Liam-]

Starmer just said a Minister gave the Middle Finger to the Public,

Bollocks

She stuck her finger up at a Swearing Left Wing Activist Gang
outside the Entrance to 10 Downing St

You can’t blame every action of the Tories on ‘lefties’ Arista, she did it, there’s videos of her doing it, she didn’t like the crowd booing Boris, give your head a wobble pal

[arista]

You can’t blame every action of the Tories on ‘lefties’ Arista, she did it, there’s videos of her doing it, she didn’t like the crowd booing Boris, give your head a wobble pal



Of course Liam


But outside 10 Downing street was not the public
like Starmer just Lied about.


Be Honest
they were a swearing Activist Left Wing Group of Thugs
They chased the BBC Newsnight Fella

[Zizu]

You can’t blame every action of the Tories on ‘lefties’ Arista, she did it, there’s videos of her doing it, she didn’t like the crowd booing Boris, give your head a wobble pal


The protesters were booing all the tories going past as I recall .. I thought she showed spirit tbh


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[bots]

You can’t blame every action of the Tories on ‘lefties’ Arista, she did it, there’s videos of her doing it, she didn’t like the crowd booing Boris, give your head a wobble pal

She didn't do a John Prescott though, so quite reserved when you think about it :laugh:

[arista]

The protesters were booing all the tories going past as I recall .. I thought she showed spirit tbh




Yes Liam skips that bit

[arista]

Now it is SNP leader is speaking Slowly

[Oliver_W]

What's going on with the confidence vote right now? I'm not sure I get what's happening :joker:

[Zizu]

They aren’t having a confidence / no confidence in the government vote tonight are they because the tories look well outnumbered !!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220718/2d11e390f2eb7ec6c3bfcdeb1a51a08d.jpg


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[arista]

What's going on with the confidence vote right now? I'm not sure I get what's happening :joker:


After SNP,
LibDem


It goes to a wasted vote

Johnson has left the chamber

[Zizu]

What's going on with the confidence vote right now? I'm not sure I get what's happening :joker:


Well very few of the tories have turned up


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[bots]

Well very few of the tories have turned up


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the vote is at 10pm, they don't need to be at the debate as they know how they will be voting

[Oliver_W]

the vote is at 10pm, they don't need to be at the debate as they know how they will be voting

So the vote is whether or not to hold a confidence vote?

[bots]

So the vote is whether or not to hold a confidence vote?

no, it is the confidence vote

[Oliver_W]

no, it is the confidence vote

Okay, thanks! I thought these things took longer, for some reason

[bots]

Okay, thanks! I thought these things took longer, for some reason

because labour were trying to make it personal about boris, the tories went straight for a no confidence vote in the government

[Zizu]

the vote is at 10pm, they don't need to be at the debate as they know how they will be voting


Ahh


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[bots]

The day after they clashed in ITV's televised debate, it's understood that Tory leadership candidates were summoned by the 1922 Committee of Conservative backbenchers earlier today and reminded to be civil in their debates.

The five remaining candidates were spoken to in Parliament this afternoon. The backbench committee also sought assurances no candidate would drop out if they reached the final two.

It comes after a TV debate between the contenders on Sky News scheduled for Tuesday was cancelled after Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss declined to take part. Senior Tories have express concern that angry arguments in public could damage the party.

[arista]

Weds 13 July


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXjXM5fXwAEJsxJ?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

next round of the leadership contest due to be announced in under an hour

[Crimson Dynamo]

next round of the leadership contest due to be announced in under an hour

the fact that Liz Truss is safe is an abomination

she is fecking useless and no business in the UK would employ her to clean their loos

its who is controlling her that is the worry

[Zizu]

the fact that Liz Truss is safe is an abomination

she is fecking useless and no business in the UK would employ her to clean their loos

its who is controlling her that is the worry


£€$ people ?


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[arista]

Tom is out of the Race he had 31


Lucky 4

Rishi Sunak 115
Penny Mordaunt 82
Liz Truss 71
Kemi Badenoch 58

[bots]

good result for Sunak

[arista]

Tomorrow
4PM Result

Another goes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tomorrow
4PM Result

Another goes.

get that robot Truss OUT

[Zizu]

Tom is out of the Race he had 31


Lucky 4

Rishi Sunak 115
Penny Mordaunt 82
Liz Truss 71
Kemi Badenoch 58


Awww I’ll miss his tales of great bravery


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[bots]

i think Sunak will pick up the majority of Toms vote and then the 3 ladies will be battering each other for votes to get in the final 3/2

[Zizu]

i think Sunak will pick up the majority of Toms vote and then the 3 ladies will be battering each other for votes to get in the final 3/2


I hope to NEVER see or hear that weaselish TomT ever again


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[Liam-]

Sorry, but the fact that Kemi is still in is actually terrifying for the future those people supporting her want to take the party

[Oliver_W]

Sorry, but the fact that Kemi is still in is actually terrifying for the future those people supporting her want to take the party

Why don't you like her? From the recent debates etc she seems pretty anti-corruption, she doesn't seem like she wants to cut benefits etc...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry, but the fact that Kemi is still in is actually terrifying for the future those people supporting her want to take the party

a great strong woman

[Crimson Dynamo]

no wonder the extreme left are terrified

[bots]

the centre leaning status quo section of the party were wiped out when boris removed their whip and had them deselected. That's why there is no good option left in the tory party

[Zizu]

Why don't you like her? From the recent debates etc she seems pretty anti-corruption, she doesn't seem like she wants to cut benefits etc...


Nick Toms is worried by Kemi Badenoch’s idea to cut down on support staff in schools

As the former chair of governors at Jubilee primary school, where Kemi Badenoch was a governor, I am shocked that she can say resources can be saved from “superfluous support staff and peripheral activities” in schools.
As she will know from her time at the school, which serves some of the most deprived parts of Brixton, south London, there are no superfluous support staff. Teaching assistants play a vital role in aiding teachers in classes where many of the children come from highly disadvantaged backgrounds and need all the help they can get. Some are allocated to specific children as part of their educational needs assessment


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Nick Toms is worried by Kemi Badenoch’s idea to cut down on support staff in schools

As the former chair of governors at Jubilee primary school, where Kemi Badenoch was a governor, I am shocked that she can say resources can be saved from “superfluous support staff and peripheral activities” in schools.
As she will know from her time at the school, which serves some of the most deprived parts of Brixton, south London, there are no superfluous support staff. Teaching assistants play a vital role in aiding teachers in classes where many of the children come from highly disadvantaged backgrounds and need all the help they can get. Some are allocated to specific children as part of their educational needs assessment


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i wonder who put him up to this comment?

cough: TRuss

[Oliver_W]

Nick Toms is worried by Kemi Badenoch’s idea to cut down on support staff in schools

As the former chair of governors at Jubilee primary school, where Kemi Badenoch was a governor, I am shocked that she can say resources can be saved from “superfluous support staff and peripheral activities” in schools.
As she will know from her time at the school, which serves some of the most deprived parts of Brixton, south London, there are no superfluous support staff. Teaching assistants play a vital role in aiding teachers in classes where many of the children come from highly disadvantaged backgrounds and need all the help they can get. Some are allocated to specific children as part of their educational needs assessment


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That's knocked her down a bit in my books.

[Zizu]

i wonder who put him up to this comment?

cough: TRuss


It seemed heartfelt to be fair


It was actually Bridget Phillipson, shadow education secretary who criticised Kemi Badenoch because her comments on cutting down on the number of support staff in schools is concerning.

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[bots]

each and every one of these candidates has skeletons. You can bet the media will be going for the winner with a fine tooth comb the moment they win

[Zizu]

each and every one of these candidates has skeletons. You can bet the media will be going for the winner with a fine tooth comb the moment they win


Truss’s 18 month affair sticks in my gut
Both parties were married at the time and the affair meant the end of Mark Field’s marriage


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[bots]

1549119321284149248

[Beso]

Do any of them have normal names?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

4PM This Afternoon Live
One other MP Goes


Rishi Sunak 115 (+14)
Penny Morduant 82 (-1)
Lizz Truss 71 (+7)
Kemi Badenoch 58 (+9)

[joeysteele]

It will be interesting to see today's figures.

I must be missing a great deal as I just cannot understand how there's people in the Cons and the media building up Truss.
As a candidate for leader, she is the worst possible candidate, in my view anyhow.

[bots]

Truss has got the big money behind her, the reason is as simple as that. If the big donors want Truss, the tory mp's will be quick to oblige. I'm not sure we have seen this story run it's course yet though. For me, any of the 3 ladies could make the final pairing as it stands now. It's feasible for example that Rishi's team gift Kemi a few votes to make sure Truss finishes last today .... stranger things have happened :laugh:

[arista]

George Freeman MP
backing Penny
failed to answer the Funding

Just on BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Kemi is saying she is the Unity Canditate.


Unity? not seen that used much

Today at 3PM live
Kemi gets kicked out.


Will she be the King maker
of the final 2?

[bots]

mark my words, if Rishi is half way sensible, he will lend Kemi sufficient votes today to ensure Truss finishes last

[bots]

voting underway, result at 3pm

[Liam-]

It’s clear as day that they think their days are numbered being in government, so they’re trying to push through someone who’ll do the most damage in as much time as they have left

[arista]

Who is saved with Toms 31 votes?

[arista]

Good
Tomorrow Wednesday

[Another vote - which will give us the final two - will take place tomorrow.]

Then 6 weeks of Sunak and one other

[arista]

It’s clear as day that they think their days are numbered being in government, so they’re trying to push through someone who’ll do the most damage in as much time as they have left


2 Years
the New Conservative Leader has.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8472/production/_125960933_hi077404782.jpg

Bye Kemi

Live all media 3PM

[Oliver_W]

2 Years
the New Conservative Leader has.

https://avatarfiles.alphacoders.com/152/thumb-152881.jpg

[bots]

kemi will get through and liz will be out

[arista]

kemi will get through and liz will be out


That would be Good

[James]

Liz Truss is just a continuation of Boris Johnson without the jokes.

They are probably losing the next election is she wins.

Then they would appoint a 'moderniser' leader. ie. David Cameron 2.0.

[arista]

[BBC to host TV debate for final two

The BBC is to host a live TV debate with
the final two candidates of the Conservative Party leadership race.

Our Next Prime Minister will be broadcast
on BBC1HD at 21:00 BST on Monday,
presented by Sophie Raworth.

Tory MPs are continuing to vote this week
to decide which of Rishi Sunak, Penny Mordaunt,
Liz Truss, and Kemi Badenoch will go forward to
a nationwide vote by party members.

TV debates have already taken place on Channel 4 and ITV. ]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62224725

[arista]

Soft Sophie is fine BBC1HD Monday 9PM


Not Kay Burley on SkyNewsHD 8PM today

[Swan]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8472/production/_125960933_hi077404782.jpg

Bye Kemi

Live all media 3PM

The diversity party.

[Denver]

Liz Truss is just a continuation of Boris Johnson without the jokes.

They are probably losing the next election is she wins.

Then they would appoint a 'moderniser' leader. ie. David Cameron 2.0.

Tbh they are losing the election regardless, only Penny has the slim chance of staying but would need good results fast

[bots]

There are a whole swathe of tories that are missing from this contest because boris got shot of them before the last election. That traditionally would have been the section of the party that would have triumphed now

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm still not getting this Kemi Badenoch thing.

Every time I turn on the radio or go on YouTube, it's constant 'she is the most amazing person ever.'

It's like a bizarre second coming. Really odd. She might be moderately adequate but I find her quite rude in those debates.

In my view, she's not PM material. But like I say this obsession with her, it's totally baffling.

[bots]

it's the hard right nationalists that support Kemi. If Kemi was elected pm, we would be in putin territory within 5 years

[Gusto Brunt]

it's the hard right nationalists that support Kemi. If Kemi was elected pm, we would be in putin territory within 5 years

I don't know exactly who is supporting her but I find it really weird.

I hope she is knocked out of the race today so people will stop worshipping her. :joker:

[Oliver_W]

it's the hard right nationalists that support Kemi. If Kemi was elected pm, we would be in putin territory within 5 years

Where are people getting this sort of thing from? Apart from wanting to cut school funding for support staff I've not really heard anything questionable from her?

[Liam-]

it's the hard right nationalists that support Kemi. If Kemi was elected pm, we would be in putin territory within 5 years

Yup, there’s nothing the far right love more than a minority willing to do their dirty work for them

[arista]

Rishi Sunak 118 +3
Penny Mordaunt 92 +10
Liz Truss 86 -15



Kemi 59 +1



Kemi IS OUT

[bots]

So Penny picked up a few

[Crimson Dynamo]

the deep state globalists want Sunak

as does China

[Gusto Brunt]

So Penny picked up a few

GB News still saying she has no chance. As if they know.:joker:

[bots]

the deep state globalists want Sunak

as does China

who are the deepstate globalists? Sounds like you are parroting Farage nonsense

[Crimson Dynamo]

who are the deepstate globalists? Sounds like you are parroting Farage nonsense

i dont think he has ever said the words deep state

[bots]

Truss nailed on second place according to the bookies

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/7/19/7b9bd582-6034-4d46-8764-03124be2c7cd.png

[Denver]

Id expect more of Kemi backers will go to Penny then Liss? As it seems they were backing her as someone away from the set up of Boris which Penny would also provide even if their mandate dont completely match

[arista]

Id expect more of Kemi backers will go to Penny then Liss? As it seems they were backing her as someone away from the set up of Boris which Penny would also provide even if their mandate dont completely match


Yes could happen

[Denver]

Yes could happen

Especially after Penny called her a good freind this morning so if Kemi backs Penny she could swing her backers to join her

[Gusto Brunt]

Either Sunak or Truss would be horrific.

[arista]

BBC News Nick E.
thinks Kemi votes may go to Truss?

[Liam-]

BBC News Nick E.
thinks Kemi votes may go to Truss?

Obviously, because Kemi is vocally anti-trans and Penny had the audacity to show an ounce of compassion for trans people once and now she’s dead to them

[bots]

the voters have not moved on block from one candidate to another as they get booted out, but I think the odds must favour Truss now to make the final 2

[Gusto Brunt]

BBC News Nick E.
thinks Kemi votes may go to Truss?

God Almighty.

[Gusto Brunt]

One thing is for sure, if either Sunak or Truss is elected PM, they will be immediately under fire from the media.

Either one will be a disaster. Good luck Starmer. He has plenty to attack Sunak or Truss with.

Either one will lose the next General Election.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/131532/s960_Liz-Truss.jpg

[hijaxers]

99% of the calls i've heard on Talk tv by Tory party members Do not want Sunak. Does Sunak not realise everyone hates him and thinks he is the worst choice possible.

[Gusto Brunt]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/image_data/file/131532/s960_Liz-Truss.jpg

Nothing like a Prime Minister. She reminds me of the lady serving behind the counter at Greggs.:hehe: Or on the till at Morrisons.:hehe:

[Zizu]

99% of the calls i've heard on Talk tv by Tory party members Do not want Sunak. Does Sunak not realise everyone hates him and thinks he is the worst choice possible.


Many of the MPs have already said that they feel that whoever goes up against Rishi will win ..


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[arista]

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[Zizu]

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How can we trust a woman who led a double life for 18 months


Liz Truss equates to distrust ..

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[joeysteele]

How can we trust a woman who led a double life for 18 months


Liz Truss equates to distrust ..

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:joker: That's a good line Zizu.
Good one.