[InOne]

North Carolina
voters approved a constitutional amendment yesterday defining marriage
solely as a union between a man and a woman, becoming the latest US
state to effectively slam the door shut on same-sex marriages.

With most of the precincts reporting yesterday, unofficial returns showed the amendment passing with about 61 per cent of the vote to 39 per cent against. North Carolina is the 30th state to adopt such a ban on gay marriage.

More here
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-7727759.html

[Black Dagger]

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They are legit scum of the earth and should die already, or get their heads out of their rear-end, if death is a tad harsh.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

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They are legit scum of the earth and should die already, or get their heads out of their rear-end, if death is a tad harsh.

Yes but thats what some parts of America
are like.

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes but thats what some parts of America
are like.

Oh, I can't dispute that.

[Niamh.]

I wonder what they have against it? It's not as if they take marriage all that seriously there anyway, the divorce rate is so high

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wonder what they have against it? It's not as if they take marriage all that seriously there anyway, the divorce rate is so high

Sounds like the amendment passed despite the majority of the voters being in favour.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Sounds like the amendment passed despite the majority of the voters being in favour.

Eh the amendment was essentially to ban same-sex marriage, that's what 61% of people were in favour of

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Eh the amendment was essentially to ban same-sex marriage, that's what 61% of people were in favour of

Oh, I presumed the vote was on those in favour of same-sex marriage and those against. Wow, I'm actually surprised America is so against it tbh.

[Ramsay]

we're in the 21st ****ing century .. get with it carolina ye dopes

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Oh, I presumed the vote was on those in favour of same-sex marriage and those against. Wow, I'm actually surprised America is so against it tbh.

It's actually a state by state basis.

California
New York
Iowa
And a bunch of NE states are the only ones that allow it. Though not a single one was by a public vote but instead thru each state's own congress or supreme court.

[Marsh.]

Quite rightly too.

[InOne]

It was already banned but now it's in the constitution. So could be another 20 years before it's looked at again.

[Legend killer]

One tree hill

[MTVN]

I wouldn't say North Carolina is representative of all of America tbf, same sex marriages are legal there in some parts of the country which is more than can be said for here

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I wouldn't say North Carolina is representative of all of America tbf, same sex marriages are legal there in some parts of the country which is more than can be said for here

Civil partnership is better than nothing. Apart from the name, it's essentially all of the same rights of a marriage.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Civil partnership is better than nothing. Apart from the name, it's essentially all of the same rights of a marriage.

This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

I personally agree but that's essentially a massive barrier to homosexuals who do identify themselves as Christian. It'd be like a gym banning fat people - we never use them, but it's nice to know they're there.

Plus there's still inequality about the whole thing. It's all very nice to say that homosexuals have equal rights now but they still have to say "oh we're not married, we're just under a civil union".

There's just no reason for there not to be gay marriage. Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.

Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage

I believe you can

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I personally agree but that's essentially a massive barrier to homosexuals who do identify themselves as Christian. It'd be like a gym banning fat people - we never use them, but it's nice to know they're there.

Plus there's still inequality about the whole thing. It's all very nice to say that homosexuals have equal rights now but they still have to say "oh we're not married, we're just under a civil union".

There's just no reason for there not to be gay marriage. Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.

I believe you can

Meh not really. That said I know only one gay couple who have a civil partnership...but they class themselves as married, and tell people they are married :S

Its essentially the same thing but with a different name. So while I do think its daft for gay people to 'technically' not be able to be married...I also think its a bit daft to get wound up about not being able to get married in the traditional sense. And I definitely dont agree with some peoples ideas about forcing churches to allow gay marriages to happen. We have to respect their views (however ignorant and bigoted they are) and if their views are that being gay is a sin...then its wrong to force church folk to do something they disagree with.

Is a civil partnership just going to a registry office? Or is that classed as marriage too?

'Anyone who quotes the Bible is effectively drawing argument from the same book that allows you to sell your daughter, kill people for wearing two different fabrics and damn anyone for working on a Sunday.; at this bit though. How true this is

[Niall]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

This

Marriage (to me anyway) is more of a religious thing. I dont actually understand why any gay couple would want a part in something that demonises them for their sexual preferance anyway.

Can straight people get civil partnerships? I would actually rather have that than marriage

Well I'm a Christian and gay, so having a religious marriage would be more preferable to me than something secular.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niall

Well I'm a Christian and gay, so having a religious marriage would be more preferable to me than something secular.

See I dont understand this at all.

It would be like me chosing a religion that hates women, thinks its unnatural to be a woman, and looks down on me for having a vagina

Each to their own though.

Do you go to church and that too?

[bbfan1991]

What a joke and what a shame that there will always be still some bigoted views around. I am straight and believe that gay people have as much right to get married as straight people because it is about declaring love.

Marriages nowadays mean nothing in terms of vows because of the amount of people divorcing quickly or the rush decisions couples make but it is their life, although fair play to couples that have been married for lots and lots of years through the highs and lows.

[Saph]

Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

[nicole_burks]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

Not everyone is going to listen to him.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by SaphLiike

Why doesnt Obama or whoever just make it legal in the whole country :/ who cares if some people don't like it.. not everyone liked having a black president, but they got over it, and would get over same sex marriage as well

Because States would get really pissed off at having their right to decide things like this taken away

[Samuel.]

Wow. I thought America was gradually getting better with homosexuality.