[The Slim Reaper]

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Can't believe I missed a pun. Slipping in my old age.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I mean, "Game of Thrones" the clue is in the name, that's what it's always been about a fight to claim the throne, it never pretended to be anything else? I know what LOTRs/The Hobbit are about and it's completely different, as I said in my other post I loved both those series, the issue is ROP has done a piss poor job to make it interesting compared to those and is DULL compared to HOTD

I think the difference that I'm trying to say is that GOT had more going on than just who's gonna marry who, from the pilot alone we had the Whitewalkers being established, Daenerys and Viserys being on the other side of the world in hiding from the people from Westeros and slowly gather an army to take Kings Landing back, Bran being shoved out of a window after discovering Incest between Jaime & Cersei (which I remember they had to keep it a secret) but for some reason HOTD acts like incest is the vogue thing to do. And I remember there were just more interesting dynamics being formed in the first few episodes of GOT.

I don't think even in Season 8 would I say that GOT was uneventful.

Edit... I'd also say that GOT had really sharp dialogue that most newer Shows really lack imo.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I think the difference that I'm trying to say is that GOT had more going on than just who's gonna marry who, from the pilot alone we had the Whitewalkers being established, Daenerys and Viserys being on the other side of the world in hiding from the people from Westeros and slowly gather an army to take Kings Landing back, Bran being shoved out of a window after discovering Incest between Jaime & Cersei (which I remember they had to keep it a secret) but for some reason HOTD acts like incest is the vogue thing to do. And I remember there were just more interesting dynamics being formed in the first few episodes of GOT.

I don't think even in Season 8 would I say that GOT was uneventful.I

Edit... I'd also say that GOT had really sharp dialogue that most newer Shows really lack imo.

Yes but Game of Thrones was a much wider scale book series/show, HOTD is literally about one family, a family we got to know briefly from GOTs and a lot of people wanted to see a bit more of their history etc they'd pretty much been completely wiped out by the end of GOTs

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but Game of Thrones was a much wider scale book series/show, HOTD is literally about one family, a family we got to know briefly from GOTs and a lot of people wanted to see a bit more of their history etc they'd pretty much been completely wiped out by the end of GOTs

I get that to some extent.

Imo though a Show based in the GOT universe needs more going on than who's gonna marry who, because the franchise has set a certain standard after 8 Seasons of the original Show that more bigger scale plots are meant to happen.

Spin-Offs should experiment to an extent, but imo weakening the plot to the point that HOTD has is disappointing imo, it's like when Caprica came out as the spin-off to Battlestar Galactica all over again for me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get that to some extent.

Imo though a Show based in the GOT universe needs more going on than who's gonna marry who, because the franchise has set a certain standard after 8 Seasons of the original Show that more bigger scale plots are meant to happen.

Spin-Offs should experiment to an extent, but imo weakening the plot to the point that HOTD has is disappointing imo, it's like when Caprica came out as the spin-off to Battlestar Galactica all over again for me.

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him

I think there could be more to the bran/jon spinoff. Obviously those wearwood trees aren't in it for the greater good, and bran flat out saying "why do you think I came all this way?" in that stupid meeting hints at the fact he knew a lot more than he let on.

Emilia is supposed to be in the spin off, so maybe some blood magic or maybe flashbacks of some sort?

I liked Arya through the show but the last couple of seasons ruined her. Not her fault (they did the same to jon), so I'd guess there is less interest in seeing her again from the wider public. Everyone watched Jon in the thick of it for more seasons, and then were let down by "muh queen, I don't want it," so more people probably want to see him rehabilitated.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'd have preferred an Arya Spin off personally but I'll watch whatever they make The Bran story line turned out to be a damp squib alright. Seems like his only real purpose in the end was to reveal who Jon Snows parents were.

Interesting about Drogon though, since Jon is part tragaryn he could get to claim him if he finds him

What about a Daenerys spin off which starts with her awaking from a dream / nightmare but really everything is just fine and dandy with her and John Snow ..

Well it happened in Dallas or was it Dynasty ?


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think there could be more to the bran/jon spinoff. Obviously those wearwood trees aren't in it for the greater good, and bran flat out saying "why do you think I came all this way?" in that stupid meeting hints at the fact he knew a lot more than he let on.

Emilia is supposed to be in the spin off, so maybe some blood magic or maybe flashbacks of some sort?

I liked Arya through the show but the last couple of seasons ruined her. Not her fault (they did the same to jon), so I'd guess there is less interest in seeing her again from the wider public. Everyone watched Jon in the thick of it for more seasons, and then were let down by "muh queen, I don't want it," so more people probably want to see him rehabilitated.

Arya was great all the way through!

Best moment of the whole series for me was this

Spoiler:

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

What about a Daenerys spin off which starts with her awaking from a dream / nightmare but really everything is just fine and dandy with her and John Snow ..

Well it happened in Dallas or was it Dynasty ?


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No thanks

[The Slim Reaper]

That's the laziest writing trope imaginable.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Arya was great all the way through!

Best moment of the whole series for me was this

Spoiler:

I think this was mine



When he arrives to rescue her for the very first time

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

Well they do say incest is best.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It depends on the spin off though, if they did a spin off of Arya and her travels into the unmapped west of westros, that would be much less about marriage and lineage and heirs than a story about one family and their rises and fall to the the Iron throne. A spin off about Jon Snow and his life in the "wild" North would be different etc

An example of an interesting plot for HOTD imo that could work for the Show is one where trouble is brewing between the Targaryens and another house, and there's a traitor in Kings Landing leaking intel to the enemy house about their strategies and other stuff (I'm not a writer so I'm coming up with a rough sketch) and basically the King & Rhaenyra have to try and figure out who the traitor is, plus trying to stop an out and out war from breaking out.

I'm probably explaining it in a rough way, but it's more than what HOTD is currently displaying imo.

Tbf to HOTD though I think it's a trend to make Shows with really basic plotting, hopefully a trend that dies very soon.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

A Jon Snow show show is in the pipeline. Hope he finds Drogon and burns Bran and his dull fcuking stories to ashes.

I'm into that idea.

Bran was always one of GOT's duller characters.

[Henryno]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

HotD is much more family friendly than GoT ever was

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[Nicky91]

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more sense

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more sense

Don't you have to have Targaryn blood to be a dragon rider?

[Barry.]

So far I’m loving HOD, but haven’t seen lotr but seen the movies which I thought were ok I guess so it makes me think I won’t really enjoy the tv show. Might be wrong though

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Barry.

So far I’m loving HOD, but haven’t seen lotr but seen the movies which I thought were ok I guess so it makes me think I won’t really enjoy the tv show. Might be wrong though

Well, imo if you thought the movies were only OK then ROP won't do much for you because they're a lot worse than the Films (which I loved)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

''Dutch Adonis'' Michiel Huisman returning in the Jon Snow spin off pls as Daario Naharis


finding out Jon murdered his love and he wants to have his revenge



would make up for a nice storyline i think


Daario learning to ride Drogon would also make more sense

Also, in what way do you #standwithIran? You stand by their right to murder women in the street for not wearing a head scarf?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Don't you have to have Targaryn blood to be a dragon rider?

It's the blood of old Valyria, but as it's only the Targaryen's that are still around, Dario would be a snack if he approached Drogon.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's the blood of old Valyria, but as it's only the Targaryen's that are still around, Dario would be a snack if he approached Drogon.

That's what I was thinking. Has to be Jon, so Daario is toast I'm afraid