[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

I am referring to the men and the women here.

I really did know of a man left holding the baby. I mean we are talking almost immediately. I seem to recall there was actual problems with replacing the breast feeding (which he obviously could not do),
and,
yes, he was absolutely a father and just fully invested and psyched and had all these exciting plans for the kids.

I'd like to know what you make of the male who is not holding the baby (inside) when it comes to these adverts?
Is he informed?
does he get any say in the baby's life or death here?
Why not?
Will anyone stop 'controlling him' by withholding information about where he can go for the psychological trauma he may experience upon finding out his baby was killed?
What about him waking up in night terrors of his mutilated baby wanting Daddy to protect it?

What is your take on this - where do fathers rights come into this and why is the advert only about the mother and what she wants and doesn't want for herself?

Although I understand your point that in an ideal world the man should have a say - but the woman has to have the bigger say - as it is, as you say, her body that has to give birth and take the necessary health risks! There simply is no way round that! You can't cater for the wishes of both - if they disagree!