[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

This latest 'innovation is more madness, Christmas means 'Christ's' 'Mass' or 'Mass or Festival of Christ' .

There is no getting away from this - that is the true origin and literal meaning of the word Christmas.

And it's as you say above Kyle - it does not matter whether the religious meaning is observed or not, there is no need to change the tradition or Nativity Story.

What valid reason is there for this? Because it is not only offensive to all Christians, but is yet more dangerous erosion by stealth of our traditional way of life by malignant and covert parties.

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I am no Christian but i understand what Christmas is and it's how i've been brought up to recognise it.Although i don't necessarily believe the Nativity it is at the core of what Christmas is.To me the Nativity is as far fetched as Santa Claus but i have a big Santa on my wall just as i have a small pot Nativity scene.I have photos and memories of being a sheperd in the Nativity play.Multiculturalism does'nt mean wiping out the traditions of the host country but accepting them and respecting them just as we build Mosques and Gurdwara's in every city and accept those religious traditions.We live in a Christian country and just because we don't all believe it does'nt mean we should'nt respect it.
Imagine a large population of Europeans moving to Pakistan and trying to change the name of Ramadan or Eid,That **** would'nt fly over there and why should it here?