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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Attempted suicides by overdose are often not "true" suicide attempts (although they do often result in death anyway) but are more ambiguous combination of a cry for help and "not really caring" if death is the end result.

If someone is 100% sure and determined to kill themselves then they will almost always succeed on the first attempt.

Mmmm....i'm not sure i agree as my mum committed suicide on her 7th attempt at an overdose, many of my family said it was a cry for help, and i sort of think that may have been true in the earlier attempts, however after her 6th attempt the doctors told her that if she took another overdose it would kill her as she'd damaged her internal organs, with that knowledge she then went on to kill herself.

We also had a family friend, he was a gentle soul, deeply in love with my cousin, however things didn't work out and after years of unrequited love and lack of direction, he decided to lie on the train tracks and that was that, that to me takes a lot of guts and courage, however i suspect he may have been under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

Then there was a doctor (she was my doctor), who seemed to have a perfect life, 2 small children, husband who loved her, perfect home, and she took her life with an overdose, she lay down in a grassy area, took her prescription pills and placed a green coloured coat over herself, fell asleep and died, she was found 2 weeks after she went missing under her coat.

My point is that the doctor seemed pretty determined to take her life as it was a remote area, and the coat was the same colour as the area she lay on, whereas my mum always did it in the house where she would be found.

Sorry Niamh and Kizzy just read your posts and yes this topic of conversation is bleak, but some of us have to live with the wondering for ever.