[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I mean 'plain speaking' as in her choice of language and/or delivery, yes some see it as common, uncouth, rude, loud yet essentially what she says is no better or worse in many cases than other housemates, it's seized upon because she's such a huge character.
Personally I feel Joel is a twat for his drip, drip of offensive remarks about other hms and his condescending tone in conversations... it's all relative.

Well no, you can be plain speaking without being offensive. Chloe is very plain speaking but she doesn't feel the need to tell people to die or hurl abuse at people every five seconds. People aren't 'seizing' up on her because she's a huge character, they're doing it because she's a vicious bullying twat.

It's not relative, Helen is a disgusting human being and you mistake 'honesty' for being a twat. You can be honest, plain speaking, forward whatever without being a hateful bitch. Helen's just a twat, nothing more nothing less.