[Ellen]

I dont mind her, she speaks her mind as she see's it. Sometimes she is right in what she says & sometimes she is not.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ellen

I dont mind her, she speaks her mind as she see's it. Sometimes she is right in what she says & sometimes she is not.

..yeah I would agree Ellen that I think she's sometimes and can be right about some things but even when she is..?...too often and mostly the way she says those things and her behaviour in a situation also make her wrong...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I would agree Ellen that I think she's sometimes and can be right about some things but even when she is..?...too often and mostly the way she says those things and her behaviour in a situation also make her wrong...

Indeed Ammi

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah I would agree Ellen that I think she's sometimes and can be right about some things but even when she is..?...too often and mostly the way she says those things and her behaviour in a situation also make her wrong...

Yeah i can see that, fair point. There is not much sugar coating with her thats for sure.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Yeah i can see that, fair point. There is not much sugar coating with her thats for sure.

...yeah I don't even think it's about sugar coating so much tbh, but more being more socially aware of boundaries and what's acceptable and what isn't and she's really in a lot of ways like child who 'reacts' to something that maybe it would be understandable to react to but not the way in which they have, so have to have that explained to them as well as listening to their point...it's like a 'basic' thing that most people just know but that she just doesn't seem to or totally disregards because she wants to do and act how she wants to ...so her 'being right' or her point etc is lost in her behaviour and isn't that often the way with children...

..I guess the most 'childlike' thing she's done was last years..I'm always in the right, always in the right, always in the right..and on and on etc..'...speech...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah I don't even think it's about sugar coating so much tbh, but more being more socially aware of boundaries and what's acceptable and what isn't and she's really in a lot of ways like child who 'reacts' to something that maybe it would be understandable to react to but not the way in which they have, so have to have that explained to them as well as listening to their point...it's like a 'basic' thing that most people just know but that she just doesn't seem to or totally disregards because she wants to do and act how she wants to ...so her 'being right' or her point etc is lost in her behaviour and isn't that often the way with children...

..I guess the most 'childlike' thing she's done was last years..I'm always in the right, always in the right, always in the right..and on and on etc..'...speech...

And Nikki... what of her 'childlike' outbursts are they vilified in equal measure would you say?
I wouldn't say they are, in fact they're seen as a positive and legendary way it's quite odd.