[Tom.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

the 'flip that around' scenario doesn't quite work though. The mother is the one who cares for the child 90% of the time - if the father isn't interested.

I put it to you earlier in reply to your post about the woman not wanting the child, but the father wanting it- that very very few men would take the baby from birth and have the baby 24/7. I still stand by that.

the flip side above that you mentioned? If the man doesn't want to be a father - he takes responsibility for the contraception. That's not rocket science - takes two you know....if the man doesn't take protection and the woman falls pregnant - he has a responsibility to provide for the child his sperm created if the woman choses not to abort.

Sometimes the mum wouldn't take 100% responsibility for a child either, and in a lot of cases can force the dads to be involved whether financially or physically. A man has no control over an abortion, so is it really fair that he is dragged into it? Whereas if the woman doesn't want it, she can just get rid and thats it.

I'm not saying that women should be forced by the men to keep the baby, I just don't like how women have full control over it. Other situations i've outlined are just hypothetical.