[Tom.]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

He was happy to have sex - and take his chances. So yes, it is really fair that he is dragged into it. Babies don't happen just with wishful thinking. If he didn't want dragged into anything, he should have made sure he took every precaution to ensure the woman didn't fall pregnant.

Right, but now flip the situation over and if he wants it and she doesn't, she can just go and get it aborted, ie woman wins either way (as usual ). So going back to the initial argument, why is it different with the shoe on the other foot, and why should what the man wants be overruled by what the woman wants? If she didn't want to get pregnant then she should have took precautions.