Originally Posted by lostalex

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

Was she imprisoned for the Satan sex bit, or the fact that they thought she was a murderer?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Was she imprisoned for the Satan sex bit, or the fact that they thought she was a murderer?

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

Originally Posted by lostalex

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

What a horribly inaccurate thing to say. She was prosecuted for a murder, resulting from Satanic sex games/rituals. Now that only decrees that Knox, herself, was guilty of being interested in the Satanic rituals, not that she was being treated as a modern day with. Being a witch is not a criminal offence (to my knowledge), but murdering another person is.

Claiming that Europe thinks of Americans today, the way that the Nazi's thought of Jews during the holocaust, is offensive to just about everyone apart from Americans, and I would hope Americans on here would think that would be a wholly inappropriate comparison too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

I haven't really been following the case much but I thought it was because of her and her b/fs fingerprints found on her under wear and also on a brush in her b/fs flat? Also, wasn't their alibis abit dodgy?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't really been following the case much but I thought it was because of her and her b/fs fingerprints found on her under wear and also on a brush in her b/fs flat? Also, wasn't their alibis abit dodgy?

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

I doubt that was the case Alex.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I doubt that was the case Alex.

ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

Originally Posted by lostalex

There were ZERO finger prints found from Amanda. There were a million finger prints found from the other person accused though, the african Rudee Guede, who also had been accused of knife crimes before,. BUt instead of focusing on him, they chose to focus on Amanda, who had no finger prints at all, and there was no forensic evidence at all, but they convicted her because they accused her of being a satanic WITCH.

It was literally a witch hunt, on Americans. "those cocky americans, they must be evil, so Amanda must be evil" it was literally no different than the Salem Witch Trials. It showed the true face of Europe.

Ohh, she's American and pretty, so she MUST be EVIL.

Persecution complex. May I ask which part of America you are from?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Persecution complex. May I ask which part of America you are from?

I've lived all over. New York, Washington DC, Virginia, Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, Montana... why? What possible relevance does where i live in America have to my statements??
Oh maybe you think i'm some ignorant conservative republican? because you think all American's that disagree with you must be rednecks right??

Sorry, i'm not a redneck. Thank you for proving my point though.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

Well, as I said I haven't really been following the case. The only thing I read about it was this :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...asons-why.html

and to me the 5 reasons why she is guilty seem more likely then the ones for why she is innocent.

Originally Posted by lostalex

ok, then explain why she was convicted then???

i'm open to hearing your point of view. (bear in mind that she was later aquitted because there was no forensic evidence against her.... but i can't wait to hear your theory as to why she was convicted in the first place)

She has been proven innocent now, but i really wanna hear your theory as to why she was convicted first??

She was (wrongly) convicted of murder, not of witchcraft. People are wrongly convicted of all manner of crimes, all the time.

Some of the most heinous miscarriages of justice involve the USA. I see Haley Barbour has just released a load of convicted murders - just because he can.

Don't confuse Amanda Knox with Christine O'connell.

It's not only crazy old Europe that has witchcraft issues.

Youtube video

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well, as I said I haven't really been following the case. The only thing I read about it was this :

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...asons-why.html

and to me the 5 reasons why she is guilty seem more likely then the ones for why she is innocent.

So you think she was guilty? name one piece of evidence she was guilty please. She was eventually aquitted because there is not a single shred of evidence against her.

If you have evidence against her, i'd like to hear it, and you should tell it to the italian courts, cause they couldn't find any evidence against her eigther.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

She was (wrongly) convicted of murder, not of witchcraft. People are wrongly convicted of all manner of crimes, all the time.

Some of the most heinous miscarriages of justice involve the USA. I see Haley Barbour has just released a load of convicted murders - just because he can.

Don't confuse Amanda Knox with Christine O'connell.

It's not only crazy old Europe that has witchcraft issues.

Youtube video

i never said it was only Europe, i brought it up because people were acting like it was shocking that Africans and MIddle easterns use witchcraft against people, when actually it still happens in Europe too. Did you forget what this thread is about? if you forget, read though the past posts please, you seem to be confused.

Originally Posted by lostalex

I've lived all over. New York, Washington DC, Virginia, Los Angeles, Santa Cruz, Montana... why? What possible relevance does where i live in America have to my statements??
Oh maybe you think i'm some ignorant conservative republican? because you think all American's that disagree with you must be rednecks right??

Sorry, i'm not a redneck. Thank you for proving my point though.

I was just curious. I thought you may be a republican, yes, but that's solely because of some historical inaccuracy's you've spouted, and coincides with the republican persecution complex of us godless, librul, socialist, Nazi's over here in Europe.

I love American politics, and I remember the health care debates when Europe was being slagged off and lied about every day in tea party events and on your so-called news channels.

There is no united hatred of America in Europe, just like there isn't a total hatred of Europe in America.

Originally Posted by lostalex

i never said it was only Europe, i brought it up because people were acting like it was shocking that Africans and MIddle easterns use witchcraft against people, when actually it still happens in Europe too. Did you forget what this thread is about? if you forget, read though the past posts please, you seem to be confused.

You brought up Amanda Knox. Let me state this once again, just to try and make it clear for you. Amanda Knox was convicted (wrongly) of murder. She was not, and I repeat, not, convicted of witchcraft.

The key part of this story is the fact someone died.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by lostalex

she was convicted because she was painted as a "witch"(literally not metaphorically, they actually accussed her of being a WITCH) and she was American.

There's more xenophobia in Europe now than there was anti-semitism in Europe during ww2.
Europe always loves a scapegoat. They can't get away with Jews anymore, so they use Americans as scapegoats.

Are you seriously arguing that the widespread persecution of Jews, the genocide of 6 million of them, was less of an injustice than Amanda Knox's conviction?

[Shasown]

WTF does supposed anti American sentiments in Italy have to do with Saudi Women being forced to cover attractive eyes?

Get back on topic or get off the thread.

Alex could I ask a favour in that you stop hijacking threads to further your own Anti European Pro American agendas?

[Vicky.]

Yet another thread turned into an america v the world thing. Getting ****ing sick and tired of this recently.

As for the original topic, how ridiculous. And who on earth can judge if someones eyes are attractive or not...whats attractive to one wont be attractive to another etc etc

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yet another thread turned into an america v the world thing. Getting ****ing sick and tired of this recently.

As for the original topic, how ridiculous. And who on earth can judge if someones eyes are attractive or not...whats attractive to one wont be attractive to another etc etc

Amazing eyes



Not amazing eyes

[Vicky.]

See the first eyes are really weird to me, and a little scary

Originally Posted by Vicky.

See the first eyes are really weird to me, and a little scary

I could stare at them all day.

The first ones, obviously. Not the 2nd set.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't get why Saudi Arabia is so backwards? and to answer Spitfire we don't have the backward and insane laws that the Middle East have,that's why they can't get on our case as much.

Originally Posted by jedward fever

I don't get why Saudi Arabia is so backwards? and to answer Spitfire we don't have the backward and insane laws that the Middle East have,that's why they can't get on our case as much.

It's because Islam is still a young religion, in relative terms, and isn't quite secure with itself yet. They're still in their dark ages period, that Christianity went through.

Islam needs an enlightenment movement, to switch the Koran from the unalterable word of god, to some allegorical stories, and metaphorical stories like the bible.

The Abraham religions have all gone through this. Judaism wanted to kill everyone for a while, then Christianity did too. We need some brave Muslim scholars to stand up and denounce this kind of behaviour, and these laws, but we'll just have to wait it out, I'm afraid.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

It's because Islam is still a young religion, in relative terms, and isn't quite secure with itself yet. They're still in their dark ages period, that Christianity went through.

Islam needs an enlightenment movement, to switch the Koran from the unalterable word of god, to some allegorical stories, and metaphorical stories like the bible.

The Abraham religions have all gone through this. Judaism wanted to kill everyone for a while, then Christianity did too. We need some brave Muslim scholars to stand up and denounce this kind of behaviour, and these laws, but we'll just have to wait it out, I'm afraid.

i dont think you should purely pin the blame on Islam. E.g. Islam does allow equality and women are regarded as the jewels of the Earth. However some of these nations exaggerate their laws a bit too much, like no women being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia - Islam does not permit that.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Well Italy convicted Amanda Knox because she supossedly performed Satanic sex rituals, so let's not act like "civilized western countries" don't also have wacky courts.

Not to mention the alleged murder of a fellow student.