[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, they are.

This is just like the Tories... they continue to alienate their core vote. It's hard to try to imagine what they hope to achieve.

Well Livia at least they are telling us the truth and not filling us with pipe dreams of a perfect Utopia that will never happen, this is one reason I like them,they dont tell people what they want to hear,they don't curry favour with the public, not everything can be sweet for everyone.