[caprimint]

I kinda feel like it'll be fall which I'll actually be fine with. I want it to be spring or fall though JUST NOT SUMMER.

[Nicky91]

April-July

if we would all work together to beat corona, that is

something i wish would happen, since corona is a enemy of us all

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

April-July

if we would all work together to beat corona, that is

something i wish would happen, since corona is a enemy of us all

No people will not work together


Even in Strict Nations like South Korea
Covid-19 is back.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

No people will not work together


Even in Strict Nations like South Korea
Covid-19 is back.

what South Korea calls a record, or a record from UK (daily new cases) well a whole world difference

3.000 compared to 53.000

at least Koreans are immediately on high alert when there is even small amounts (compared to ours) what they see as a huge increase

they also had a long time without cases, this is just beginning of second wave for them

[Cherie]

By Autumn thing will start to look normal and when they stop with the hysterical headlines and publishing death numbers, people will start to forget

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Cherie

By Autumn thing will start to look normal and when they stop with the hysterical headlines and publishing death numbers, people will start to forget

you must never forget about this

otherwise you'll go back to life before this, with the dangerous socializing

we need to go to the ''new normal'' and everyone needs to be more hygienic

we need to take down China's wet markets for good their government should nothing to say about that, wet markets should be made illegal and those who do run it, face jail time

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

By Autumn thing will start to look normal and when they stop with the hysterical headlines and publishing death numbers, people will start to forget

Then we shouldn't be allowed to forget.. that's the issue with the public, too easily distracted.

I know the media is a bit ' hide yo wife, hide yo kids' but really..you do need to atm.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

By Autumn thing will start to look normal and when they stop with the hysterical headlines and publishing death numbers, people will start to forget

I agree with Nicky, we absolutely should never forget and I don't think the majority of people will forget.

[Nicky91]

western countries have failed, we have failed big time compared to countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Vietnam

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

western countries have failed, we have failed big time compared to countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Vietnam

Those countries are easier to lokcdoen because they don't have borders so they can totally limit the risks

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Denver

Those countries are easier to lokcdoen because they don't have borders so they can totally limit the risks

We're on an island

[Denver]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

We're on an island

Which we have one of the highest tourist numbers aswell as having to keep our borders open to the EU, we also rely on, Also South Korea has a culture to wear masks and Australia is a big spot of land so its spread out alot but in the UK we are literally on top of each other with no getting away

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

We're on an island

Honestly it's a little bit different. It's so easy for Aus/NZ to just cut off any other countries but we have a lot more surrounding us here

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Honestly it's a little bit different. It's so easy for Aus/NZ to just cut off any other countries but we have a lot more surrounding us here

Proximity to others isn't a deciding factor when on an island, however, dependence on our former EU neighbors is.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

western countries have failed, we have failed big time compared to countries like Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Vietnam

You're so right, Nicky, yet we repeatedly fail to learn from the actions of these countries, and keep blundering from one mistake to another and making the same mistakes repeatedly. I'm thinking particularly the UK here.

[Nicky91]

masks help, hand washing gel routine works perfectly, open your windows, fresh air is better than stinking airco

but the most important thing about this, that everyone also needs to do all of this, you don't have a choice, corona does not choose a side, it is a danger to us all

but getting the elderly and vulnerable vaccinated will be good to drive death numbers down (closer to zero a day)

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

masks help, hand washing gel routine works perfectly, open your windows, fresh air is better than stinking airco

but the most important thing about this, that everyone also needs to do all of this, you don't have a choice, corona does not choose a side, it is a danger to us all

but getting the elderly and vulnerable vaccinated will be good to drive death numbers down (closer to zero a day)

Everybody who is not vulnerable should get coronavirus to achieve herd immunity, or at least a very good form of it for months+++.

Masks and washing hands don't help. Some girl got covid from putting her hand in a random jacket pocket. People have died from getting spat on.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Everybody who is not vulnerable should get coronavirus to achieve herd immunity, or at least a very good form of it for months+++.

Masks and washing hands don't help. Some girl got covid from putting her hand in a random jacket pocket. People have died from getting spat on.

This is madness. Herd immunity is the first thing this government tried causing the NHS to be overwhelmed and the deaths to rise. Sweden tried herd immunity and are suffering from it today, far worse than any of their neighbours. I can't believe we're 9 months in, and this is what you believe.

Crazy stuff.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Herd immunity was never ever tried. And the NHS are overwhelmed now, so what do you suggest now?

Are they suffering more than us? Actually no. Only China are to blame for this regardless are much as people want to make out other countries to be worse. It's embarrassing when there is an obvious answer to the ChinaVirus.

It was tried though. Unofficially, but it was definitely tried. Boris gave speeches about how we would be carrying on as normal and staying open, which is how herd immunity was tried, then he went on with Phil and Holly and raised letting it spread through the population. That's how we were worse off than countries like Italy and France from the off.

Blaming China doesn't really do anything though, does it?

What would I do?

It's currently out of control, so I'd implement a full lockdown again. I understand why they don't want to do it, but we're rapidly losing more and more control by the minute.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It was tried though. Unofficially, but it was definitely tried. Boris gave speeches about how we would be carrying on as normal and staying open, which is how herd immunity was tried, then he went on with Phil and Holly and raised letting it spread through the population. That's how we were worse off than countries like Italy and France from the off.

Blaming China doesn't really do anything though, does it?

What would I do?

It's currently out of control, so I'd implement a full lockdown again. I understand why they don't want to do it, but we're rapidly losing more and more control by the minute.

100% agree.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Everybody who is not vulnerable should get coronavirus to achieve herd immunity, or at least a very good form of it for months+++.

Masks and washing hands don't help. Some girl got covid from putting her hand in a random jacket pocket. People have died from getting spat on.

....is this real life?

Ask yourself this, if she had washed her hands after going in the random ( assuming it was not her pocket) pocket, would she have got covid or not?

Masks do help... they help a lot in everyday circumstances. Have you seen the vapour test? I can't find it but there's a very easy way to test the effectiveness of masks. Breathe into a cold room...see your breath?
Now put your mask on and repeat that.. notice how there is significantly less vapour in the air?
That's how masks reduce the risk of transmission.

However.. as you say if you are open to infection if someone spits at you as droplets may make their way through your eyes. That's hopefully not an everyday occurrence getting spat on and the 2 metre distance rule helps with that.

Face Shields might be better if at high risk of being spat at.

[bots]

getting people vaccinated is how we get herd immunity. Everyone vaccinated will have anti bodies. That's exactly how we have dealt with other virus's and why we have vaccination programs

[bots]

it *should* be painfully obvious to everyone what they need to do at the moment to keep themselves and their loved ones safe. Individual circumstances will be widely different but the principles remain the same.The media, i will never forgive for their at times obscene reporting of this pandemic

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it *should* be painfully obvious to everyone what they need to do at the moment to keep themselves and their loved ones safe. Individual circumstances will be widely different but the principles remain the same.The media, i will never forgive for their at times obscene reporting of this pandemic

What respect in relation to the media? I agree, but think we might have different perspectives and reasons.

[bots]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What respect in relation to the media? I agree, but think we might have different perspectives and reasons.

they have often gone against the tide and made things worse for a headline. They have undermined common sense at almost every turn. Stirring the people up with their christmas is cancelled nonsense and then saying ... why are we still having christmas when the infection rate is so high is the most obvious recent example. I personally blame Boris for what will be a Christmas catastrophe because he was spouting about a normal Christmas back in the summer so the government don't get away with it either