[bots]

i thought he was doing it as a wind up hoping the lady would lose her cool. He obviously knew what he was saying because he repeated it about 4 times

[Crimson Dynamo]

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

Stephen Roberts
11 HRS AGO
I was more offended by Sky having Karen Carney as a pundit. Pundits should
ideally have played in the fixture on which they're commenting. At the very
least they should have played at the same level. Karen Carney ticks neither of
these boxes and has been chosen solely because she's a woman. The very
definition of sexism.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Stephen Roberts
11 HRS AGO
I was more offended by Sky having Karen Carney as a pundit. Pundits should
ideally have played in the fixture on which they're commenting. At the very
least they should have played at the same level. Karen Carney ticks neither of
these boxes and has been chosen solely because she's a woman. The very
definition of sexism.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently someone else saying the same stupid thing was supposed to change your mind

Interesting how the defence has gone from "that isn't what he meant" to still attacking women anyway.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game

How can he be properly clued up on the women players or the women’s game though ?

I see him as a token male pundit , a high profile player who’s willing to take the money .

I wonder what all the female ex England player/pundits think about him taking work from them ??


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

I do miss the more familiar faces discussing things during and after games simply because I know how good they were as players and what they achieved .
I wouldn’t have that interest in some guy off the street or an invited football fan .

The blokes do get more involved and disagree with each other .. you don’t get that nowadays as the guys are all on their best behaviour. It really does look as though they are scared of disagreeing with anything the female pundits say .


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[Crimson Dynamo]

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He 100% said mens game at one point

[Cherie]

Youtube video

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

Here's what he said :

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Here's what he said :

exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

[bots]

male or female, the pundits usually talk complete bollocks, so it really doesn't make any difference

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youtube video

[Swan]

I think the context is quite important here. I honestly don't think he meant to offend. But my judgement was cloudy at the time, one, i'd had a few beers, two, i was salty about Chelsea conceding in the 95th min, especially against Spurs

[Niamh.]

Oh Cherie beat me to it!

[Swan]

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Swan

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

Exactly


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