[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

[LeatherTrumpet]

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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Normally people get huffy when they have to say 'men's game' because they think it should be the default when you're talking about football. Pretty silly point because it's not like he was simply using it as a descriptor anyway

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He 100% said mens game at one point

[Cherie]

Youtube video

[Swan]

I think the context is quite important here. I honestly don't think he meant to offend. But my judgement was cloudy at the time, one, i'd had a few beers, two, i was salty about Chelsea conceding in the 95th min, especially against Spurs

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he never said mens game

here is Souey discussing it on TS this morning

https://talksport.com/football/11711...-karen-carney/

Here's what he said :

[Niamh.]

Oh Cherie beat me to it!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He said 'it's a man game all of a sudden now' and 'we've got our football back, men at it'. You think it just didn't occur to him how that might be taken badly especially sat next to a female footballer?

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

[Swan]

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

nope

as it was nothing to do with womans football and everything to do with the game he just watched, end of.

and he has stated so again this morning

He is of course going to say that he doesn't want to end up on Talk Sport with all the other Sky Sports sackings

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Here's what he said :

exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He didn't address Karen once from the footage I saw, that was telling enough He had plenty to say to Jamie Carragher, also he was man spreading, while Jamie was perched politely with legs together

Souness did engage with her specifically on one thing yesterday.. can’t recall exactly what it was about though ..


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[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

exatctly what i said

he never referred to the mens game

he said its a mans game again referring to the game he just watched and the fact that this season (by directive) the refs are allowing the game to flow and not blow for every little tackle

Hopefully the women who tweeted will see this thread and send GS an apology

he talked about it on 3 or 4 occasions though

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

One of the top comments from the DT article:

More 'woke' drivel. It's a 'man's game' is obviously being used idiomatically, in this
context, to describe men's football and specifically contrasting the mandate this season
for the refs to allow more physical contact, as opposed to recent seasons. A rather more
pertinent question might be why is Karen Carney being employed as a pundit for men's
football, when she has no experience of it?

I do miss the more familiar faces discussing things during and after games simply because I know how good they were as players and what they achieved .
I wouldn’t have that interest in some guy off the street or an invited football fan .

The blokes do get more involved and disagree with each other .. you don’t get that nowadays as the guys are all on their best behaviour. It really does look as though they are scared of disagreeing with anything the female pundits say .


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's stupid statement to make, she's a football player commenting on a football match. There were male pundits on for the Women's Euro final, what's the issue?

Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Swan

He could of meant it in the way the players, especially the men, are mollycoddled and pampered too in this day and age. A slight touch and they're down. It's embarrassing.

And i say context is important because we'd just seen probably one of the feistiest, hard hitting matches in quite a long time. It was a dig at the men's game and how they act for the most part imo.

Exactly


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[Zizu]

This morning

::

“I said we had our game back, it’s the kind of football I remember playing in.”

“It was a throwback and I think our game will be better for it.”

Graeme Souness addresses his ‘man’s game’ comments on yesterday’s action.


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[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Like I said in that case the most generous interpretation I can have of it then is that he is simply an idiot

Well then he's in good company because Alex Scott and Karen Carney are idiots too.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Well the main male pundit I saw in the Women’s Euros was the manager of a women’s football team ( Chelsea or Arsenal ?)..

I’m really not sure why Ian Wright was on there tbh


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Why shouldn't he be there and commenting though? I really don't understand why people are so funny about that, he's a football player commenting on a football game

[Alf]

When you watch football played by women on the TV, do you ever hear the word "women" or "womens" said?

I don't watch it but I'd take a guess that it's used endlessly.

Am I right?

[thesheriff443]

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Look it’s simple womens football is not the same as mens football

Look how bent out of shape women on here get when trans man is competing against a woman and how unfair it is

You can’t bloody have it both ways

Let the men play the men and the women play the women .

who said otherwise? That is not the issue at all


All Souness had to say was that the physical game is back, no need for the word men at all given it is a sport played by both and the rules are the same in mens and womens football....are they not?