[Beastie]

Cheryl wanted to get rid pf Treyc. Let's face it. lol.

She was just being polite to Treyc.

Waste of time. She is a bore.

[GiRTh]

LOL

Zippy, once again, loses sight of the big picture and just decides to praise Cheryl.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

LOL

Zippy, once again, loses sight of the big picture and just decides to praise Cheryl.

My thread is specifically about Cheryls decision..duh.

She did the honourable thing and fck whatever rules there are about a judge having to make a decision. She didnt need to go 2nd so she had every right to refuse to be forced.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zippy

My thread is specifically about Cheryls decision..duh.

She did the honourable thing and fck whatever rules there are about a judge having to make a decision. She didnt need to go 2nd so she had every right to refuse to be forced.

The honourable thing? Thats a first for her.

[Jords]

I agree to a point, but she should have stuck to her guns and gone to DEADLOCK at the end.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Jords

I agree to a point, but she should have stuck to her guns and gone to DEADLOCK at the end.

Correct, but I didn't hear her say her in her usual forceful tones, 'excuse me, I have an opinion here, I said if it went 2-1 I would take it to deadlock'.

For once she shut up because she had the result she wanted, good on Dannii for saying send Katie home, but ever so Miss false Cheryl, made no battle after the vote from Loiuis to insist it then went to deadlock.

What Cheryl said was, I'm not saying but go to these 2 first and if its 2-1 I'll take it to deadlock,so why did she not insist on that,I tell you this, had Louis voted with Dannii and made it 2-1 to send Katie home, Cheryl would have been up in arms demanding it went to deadlock then.Total hypocrite she is.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Correct, but I didn't hear her say her in her usual forceful tones, 'excuse me, I have an opinion here, I said if it went 2-1 I would take it to deadlock'.

For once she shut up because she had the result she wanted, good on Dannii for saying send Katie home, but ever so Miss false Cheryl, made no battle after the vote from Loiuis to insist it then went to deadlock.

What Cheryl said was, I'm not saying but go to these 2 first and if its 2-1 I'll take it to deadlock,so why did she not insist on that,I tell you this, had Louis voted with Dannii and made it 2-1 to send Katie home, Cheryl would have been up in arms demanding it went to deadlock then.Total hypocrite she is.

This.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Correct, but I didn't hear her say her in her usual forceful tones, 'excuse me, I have an opinion here, I said if it went 2-1 I would take it to deadlock'.

For once she shut up because she had the result she wanted, good on Dannii for saying send Katie home, but ever so Miss false Cheryl, made no battle after the vote from Loiuis to insist it then went to deadlock.

What Cheryl said was, I'm not saying but go to these 2 first and if its 2-1 I'll take it to deadlock,so why did she not insist on that,I tell you this, had Louis voted with Dannii and made it 2-1 to send Katie home, Cheryl would have been up in arms demanding it went to deadlock then.Total hypocrite she is.

Because Dermot clearly stated that it was now a 'majority vote', i.e that Cheryl had lost her vote, and only the other three counted, FFS. No amount of whining was going to change that rule. It was set in stone. You're either deaf or purposefully and desperately trying to find something to slate Cheryl for in order to continue your obsessive hatred, I personally think both. Get over it.

[patsylimerick]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Correct, but I didn't hear her say her in her usual forceful tones, 'excuse me, I have an opinion here, I said if it went 2-1 I would take it to deadlock'.

For once she shut up because she had the result she wanted, good on Dannii for saying send Katie home, but ever so Miss false Cheryl, made no battle after the vote from Loiuis to insist it then went to deadlock.

What Cheryl said was, I'm not saying but go to these 2 first and if its 2-1 I'll take it to deadlock,so why did she not insist on that,I tell you this, had Louis voted with Dannii and made it 2-1 to send Katie home, Cheryl would have been up in arms demanding it went to deadlock then.Total hypocrite she is.

Yep. Exactly. This.

[Jords]

DEADLOCK is an exciting word.

Zippy, Im sending you to.... DEADLOCK.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by Jords

DEADLOCK is an exciting word.

Zippy, Im sending you to.... DEADLOCK.

Im still recovering from the shock of you calling me evil way back...now you send me to deadlock?

We were like brothers once...

[joeysteele]

OOps, my apologies to you Zippy, I know you have great admiration for Cheryl and usually when I see a thread made by you as to Cheryl, I keep off it as I don't like her.

I didn't realise you had started this thread,so I am sorry for attacking Cheryl in a thread you began.

[Zippy]

Zzzzz

I honestly don't even get what you Cheryl haters are saying tbh. I dont care either because the bottom line is Cheryl refused to throw one of her acts under the bus and you can twist that whichever way you bloody like. Haterz gonna hate.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Zzzzz

I honestly don't even get what you Cheryl haters are saying tbh. I dont care either because the bottom line is Cheryl refused to throw one of her acts under the bus and you can twist that whichever way you bloody like. Haterz gonna hate.

Thing is Zip. You started the thread and her actions tonight dont add up. That IS why you started this thread, isnt it? Or was it just to praise little miss perfect? She wasn't so perfect tonight.

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Thing is Zip. You started the thread and her actions tonight dont add up. That IS why you started this thread, isnt it? Or was it just to praise little miss perfect? She wasn't so perfect tonight.

Her actions were very simple. She was asked to choose between them at an unnecessary point and refused to do so. If you want to build up a whole conspiracy story around that then thats your sad business.

Cheryl didnt eliminate one of her acts so she does not have their blood on her hands. Nor does she need to...just like Simon didnt a few weeks ago and many judges in past series. She should have been asked her opinion last which would have given her the option to take it to deadlock and let the public decide.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Her actions were very simple. She was asked to choose between them at an unnecessary point and refused to do so. If you want to build up a whole conspiracy story around that then thats your sad business.

Cheryl didnt eliminate one of her acts so she does not have their blood on her hands. Nor does she need to...just like Simon didnt a few weeks ago and many judges in past series. She should have been asked her opinion last which would have given her the option to take it to deadlock and let the public decide.

But wasnt it strange that she wasnt asked last?

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

But wasnt it strange that she wasnt asked last?

My guess is the producers just wanted a bit of drama and knew she would refuse at that point. Thats all.

I dont think it was any great plot to save Katie.

[Tom]

Are people losing sight that Simon refused to say who he'd vote for after Dannii, Louis & Cheryl had all cast their votes, might I add Cheryl making the casting vote?

[Patrick]

She was mature about it, I love her.

People need to ****** up and leave her alone it wasn't her fault, or Dermot's for that matter, it was probably the person in the gallery talking to Dermot in his ear.

[Mr XcX]

Originally Posted by Zippy

When Simon had two acts in the sing off he was allowed to go last and didnt therefore have to choose. Thats the decent and right way to do it.

No need to create bad feeling between an act and their mentor just for tv drama sake. Dermot was yet again trying to sh!tstir by going to Cheryl 2nd.

And she was 100% right to not throw one of her acts under the bus when it was totally unnecessary to do so.

Very rarely do I agree with you Zippy but yes. Totally a mockery of the whole show!!!

[Tom]

copy & paste job from the other thread, its just as relevant here

No matter how Cheryl voted she was always going to be criticised for it. there are a few scenarios:

If she voted second to send home...

Katie- people would be saying how she only voted Katie to counteract Simon's vote
Treyc- people would be saying how Katie is her favourite

If she voted last ...

sending it to deadlock (which would have been voting for Katie)- she'd be a crap judge because she can't choose

if she had the third vote to eliminate Treyc, she would have done that because she doesn't like Treyc

The only situation where Cheryl would have got some kind of kudos was if Katie went in a 3-1 vote with Cheryl casting the third vote. People pick at every small thing she does and qutie frankly its pathetic

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Tom

copy & paste job from the other thread, its just as relevant here

No matter how Cheryl voted she was always going to be criticised for it. there are a few scenarios:

If she voted second to send home...

Katie- people would be saying how she only voted Katie to counteract Simon's vote
Treyc- people would be saying how Katie is her favourite

If she voted last ...

sending it to deadlock (which would have been voting for Katie)- she'd be a crap judge because she can't choose

if she had the third vote to eliminate Treyc, she would have done that because she doesn't like Treyc

The only situation where Cheryl would have got some kind of kudos was if Katie went in a 3-1 vote with Cheryl casting the third vote. People pick at every small thing she does and qutie frankly its pathetic

Interesting scenarios, but if she'd simply announced - she'd like to go last - then she would have avoided all the fix claims. Surely she'd thought about this in advance and played it out in her head. If she hadnt then she's not right to be on the judging panel.

[Beastie]

The producer's fault in Dermot's ear.

They didn't want to keep the bore that is Treyc!

[James]

My suggestion.

They should have the judges privately write down the name of the person they are voting to send home, then show them one-by-one. Much fairer.

[Beastie]

Originally Posted by James

My suggestion.

They should have the judges privately write down the name of the person they are voting to send home, then show them one-by-one. Much fairer.

Lol it's like going back to school!

I agree it was a fix but Treyc was a bore and I prefer Katie.

I still feel a bit sorry for Treyc though.

It was worse last year. When bloody boring Lloyd Daniels stayed over Rachel. Lloyd was kept in to keep the teeny girls happy. A lot of the teeny girls go on The X Factor tour.. so they would prefer to see Lloyd instead of Rachel