[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No one is on my side Marsh how does it feel to realise that you're ganghanded? Kazanne posted a smug clapping gif. At your post. You pretended that you didn't know what that means but you do. You know. You know.

Oh dear,why has that upset you so much,it's a gif ,get over it, I posted it not Marsh's fault, I applauded his post.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh dear,why has that upset you so much,it's a gif ,get over it, I posted it not Marsh's fault, I applauded his post.

Obviously Marsh had no say in you posting it; but now he knows.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Obviously Marsh had no say in you posting it; but now he knows.

Of course he knows, it's in reply to his post love me ,love me ,I'm thick

[Marsh.]

Did I sleep with Kazanne and forget?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Did I sleep with Kazanne and forget?

No but you're on the right track.

[Marsh.]

[user104658]

There's no coming back from it Marsh, not even with gifs. You're in bed with the enemy and the duvet is tucked.

[Marsh.]

Kazanne is my enemy?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Kazanne is my enemy?

You know.

[chuff me dizzy]

Babs confirms she DID say what was reported about MJ


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47680378

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Babs confirms she DID say what was reported about MJ


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47680378

Her comments are about the most disgusting thing I've read about this so far, her apologising means nothing, she actually thought that, what kind of a mind could come out with that. Surely even those who think he's innocent wouldn't excuse her comments about it?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Kazanne is my enemy?

Oh dear Marsh, what a starnge turn this thread has taken,that bloody gif,lol.

[ChristmasNeeve]

I'm so confused now

[Marsh.]

Me too, Niamh, me too.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Me too, Niamh, me too.

Niamh knows too.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Niamh knows too.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Niamh knows too.

We all know the score ts.

[Parmy]

Anyone for popcorn?

[Nicky91]

honestly, it is disgusting what La Streisand had said, to bring up what i find most disgusting what she said

''His sexual needs were his sexual needs, coming from whatever childhood he has or whatever DNA he has.''


like ffs you don't say stuff like that first saying she believes wade and james and then saying this disgusting crap

bit hypocrite of Babs if you ask me

[user104658]

Honestly talking about it being in his childhood or "DNA" (by which I assume she just means part of his psychology) isn't the worst part or all THAT bad, there are always reasons for people being who or what they are unless you believe in silly fairytale concepts like "evil"... the really horrendous part was when she said "hey it didn't kill them so..." as though something as despicable and scarring as childhood abuse can be brushed off as nothing because "you're still alive right?". A really misguided thought process.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly talking about it being in his childhood or "DNA" (by which I assume she just means part of his psychology) isn't the worst part or all THAT bad, there are always reasons for people being who or what they are unless you believe in silly fairytale concepts like "evil"... the really horrendous part was when she said "hey it didn't kill them so..." as though something as despicable and scarring as childhood abuse can be brushed off as nothing because "you're still alive right?". A really misguided thought process.

Yes but there is a difference between feeling a certain way and acting on it when you know that doing so is going to destroy a persons life, a childs life. What made the part about his childhood making him the way he was bad was by saying "he has sexual needs" as if he was somehow entitled to those at the expense of those boys, if you get what I mean?

But I wholeheartedly agree with you about the it didn't kill them comment

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but there is a difference between feeling a certain way and acting on it when you know that doing so is going to destroy a persons life, a childs life. What made the part about his childhood making him the way he was bad was by saying "he has sexual needs" as if he was somehow entitled to those at the expense of those boys, if you get what I mean?

But I wholeheartedly agree with you about the it didn't kill them comment

True, I suppose using the word "needs" makes it seem like acting upon it is somehow "not his fault", and it would be more accurate to say "he had his desires" or even "he had his compulsions". A "Need" almost makes it sound like she was saying he had some sort of right to pursue it which is obviously very wrong.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

True, I suppose using the word "needs" makes it seem like acting upon it is somehow "not his fault", and it would be more accurate to say "he had his desires" or even "he had his compulsions". A "Need" almost makes it sound like she was saying he had some sort of right to pursue it which is obviously very wrong.

mmm her comments as a whole just seemed to be saying that because of what MJ gave the kids he was entitled to take something back from them to satisfy his "needs", like the trade off was worth it or something

[Christmas Lights]

I don't think Streisand believes Wade & James , maybe she's thinking what some of us are thinking that their stories make no sense . Like i said if anyone bothers to do a 2 minute research they'd see what Wade & James are all about .

Her comment about "it didn't kill them" is maybe because they're suing the estate for billion dollars while they're happy to get fame on again, which makes people doubt their intentions.

However if i'm wrong and if she actually bizarrely believes Wade & James then it's very weird what she said . Unless she's unsure if MJ is guilty or innocent but he still feels some kind of loyalty to him? . I don't know i think it can be interpreted in many ways what she's thinking and saying .

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think Streisand believes Wade & James , maybe she's thinking what some of us are thinking that their stories make no sense . Like i said if anyone bothers to do a 2 minute research they'd see what Wade & James are all about .

Her comment about "it didn't kill them" is maybe because they're suing the estate for billion dollars while they're happy to get fame on again, which makes people doubt their intentions.

However if i'm wrong and if she actually bizarrely believes Wade & James then it's very weird what she said . Unless she's unsure if MJ is guilty or innocent but he still feels some kind of loyalty to him? . I don't know i think it can be interpreted in many ways what she's thinking and saying .

Well she said she believed them and she made excuses for MJ's "needs" that's an unforgivable thing to say even if you believe MJ was innocent and Wade and James were lying what she said could apply to any abuser and victim which is disgusting