[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Miles better than Moyes. I fear about who we'd sign with Moyes in charge. Nobody will of heard of him abroad really. Whereas with Jose, tremendous pulling power.

Jose is so tempermental though. Moyes might be okay, be interesting to see if he can win anything..lets face it whoever comes in won't get very long before they need to start showing results so...anyway it could be worse as least no one has mentioned 'Arry.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Miles better than Moyes. I fear about who we'd sign with Moyes in charge. Nobody will of heard of him abroad really. Whereas with Jose, tremendous pulling power.

I'm not playing for Manchester United because even though i'm involved in football, I've never heard of David Moyes.

Have a word with yourself

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Need a lot more than Fellaini lol. Don't fear we might play hoof ball to him?

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Agree, Jack. Except I have a first choice. Mourinho. Long been rumoured that he'd stay at United for longer than he has at other places. Even if he stays 3 seasons. If he brings success both domestically and in Europe I'd be chuffed.

Wouldn't be surprised if The Glazers are fans of Moyes as they'll never get trouble out of him. Have seen some deem him a yes man.

We don't need "alot more" than him though. If we get him We have a midfielder who will take no ****s and bully people. Would give Carrick's legs a break. Now a midfielder who can thread a killer ball to really relieve the pressure off Carrick and we are set imo.


As for the Glazers, I actually credit them. They could easily of gone for the big name to boost the brand, but they have trusted Fergie's word and have attempted to think long term. Highly doubt it's a case of wanting a yes man.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

We don't need "alot more" than him though. If we get him We have a midfielder who will take no ****s and bully people. Would give Carrick's legs a break. Now a midfielder who can thread a killer ball to really relieve the pressure off Carrick and we are set imo.


As for the Glazers, I actually credit them. They could easily of gone for the big name to boost the brand, but they have trusted Fergie's word and have attempted to think long term. Highly doubt it's a case of wanting a yes man.

Fellaini wouldn't be allowed to use his arms like he does in Europe. As Drew said, he's a hot head. In Europe, you can barely do an 'effin thing nowadays.

Originally Posted by jackc1806

If you look at our midfield, the standout performer is Carrick. Excellent passes, reads the game well always looking for the man in a good position. I've always admired Carrick and I'm delighted this season he has been highlighted as a much needed player in our team. Kagawa has showed glimpses but I'm convinced his future is out wide- he has hardly set the league alight down the middle. Cleverley is one to keep an eye on, next season he must start to show his worth otherwise he could end up being similar to Gibson. Scholes is gone, not getting games and I can't see him here next season. Giggs can't perform week in week out because of his age but still produces great displays. Jones isn't really one for going forward, will be an excellent CB. Anderson needs to go, 6 seasons and he really hasn't done a lot. We've really missed Fletch, but it's unlikely he'll play again. When you look at this, what does Fellaini add that is so outstanding? He isn't the type of world class player we need at the moment. The display against Chelsea shows how weak our midfield is without Carrick.

I don't think we have many other performers anyway in midfield. Cleverley offers nothing really for me. This guy just passes it short. Did sweet FA against Chelsea and some thought he did well. If well is making 2-3 noteworthy passes each game then deary me.
Anderson is just fat, inconsistent and injury prone.

[jackc1806]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Fellaini wouldn't be allowed to use his arms like he does in Europe. As Drew said, he's a hot head. In Europe, you can barely do an 'effin thing nowadays.



I don't think we have many other performers anyway in midfield. Cleverley offers nothing really for me. This guy just passes it short. Did sweet FA against Chelsea and some thought he did well. If well is making 2-3 noteworthy passes each game then deary me.
Anderson is just fat, inconsistent and injury prone.

Cleverley is 23, next season will be the real test. If he doesn't show his worth next season he is another name added to the list of deadwood and he'll end up at Stoke or something. I think his performance against Chelsea was a bit lacklustre, didn't really notice him. The whole team took their foot of the pedal and it showed. As I say, I'd give him one more season to prove himself. Agree about Anderson, hardly ever plays and when he does he doesn't do a lot.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

Yes, he's had better players. But look at Martinez at Wigan. Great style of play with a bunch of shat players. Heard a lot of Everton fans after the cup exit mention they're not fans of Moyes' style of play.

He's done a good job at Everton. It's just, it's totally different at a higher level. Only UEFA Cup experience.

Alex Ferguson only had Cup winners cup experience before he came to Manchester United, Mourinho or anyone for that matter never had champions league experience until they managed in that competition, it's not that superior a competition it's still just a game of football.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by wannashag

Alex Ferguson only had Cup winners cup experience before he came to Manchester United, Mourinho or anyone for that matter never had champions league experience until they managed in that competition, it's not that superior a competition it's still just a game of football.

Fergie broke the stranglehold between Celtic and Rangers.

Imo, it's vastly superior. Where is a team as good as Bayern, Dortmund or Barcelona in our league to come up against? Dread to think what they'd do to us with Moyes.

[Z]

Sir Alex is a legend. Hailing from Aberdeen, I've a lot of admiration for the man though I'm not one of these people who blindly supports Manchester United because I support Aberdeen, I hate those kinds of people. The results he's produced over his career are nothing short of unbelievable and he should be remembered as the greatest football manager ever to exist in this country. Whoever replaces him is stepping into the world's largest shoes and I'm not sure anyone will be up to live up to the expectations being placed upon the role now that Fergie's stepping down.

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Zee

Sir Alex is a legend. Hailing from Aberdeen, I've a lot of admiration for the man though I'm not one of these people who blindly supports Manchester United because I support Aberdeen, I hate those kinds of people. The results he's produced over his career are nothing short of unbelievable and he should be remembered as the greatest football manager ever to exist in this country. Whoever replaces him is stepping into the world's largest shoes and I'm not sure anyone will be up to live up to the expectations being placed upon the role now that Fergie's stepping down.

Hard for anyone. But I don't think Mourinho would fear it due to his ego. Seemingly though, we're not even going for him SMH.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

Could just be newspaper BS. Although, there's bad blood between Rooney and Moyes.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by anniek76

Looks like Rooney's on his way to Bayern now too so whoever comes needs to be able to make some good signings

i can see this happening

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Drew.

i can see this happening

I think he will be gone..just a matter of what club. Don't think he fancies PSG so I think Bayern is where he'll end up...

[jackc1806]

If you look at our midfield, the standout performer is Carrick. Excellent passes, reads the game well always looking for the man in a good position. I've always admired Carrick and I'm delighted this season he has been highlighted as a much needed player in our team. Kagawa has showed glimpses but I'm convinced his future is out wide- he has hardly set the league alight down the middle. Cleverley is one to keep an eye on, next season he must start to show his worth otherwise he could end up being similar to Gibson. Scholes is gone, not getting games and I can't see him here next season. Giggs can't perform week in week out because of his age but still produces great displays. Jones isn't really one for going forward, will be an excellent CB. Anderson needs to go, 6 seasons and he really hasn't done a lot. We've really missed Fletch, but it's unlikely he'll play again. When you look at this, what does Fellaini add that is so outstanding? He isn't the type of world class player we need at the moment. The display against Chelsea shows how weak our midfield is without Carrick.

[Z]

I think David Moyes is precisely the kind of manager they need. Fergie's choice to home grow talent rather than squander millions on buying existing talent is a wise one, because it's more stable than throwing money at men who will only be tempted away by better money. José Mourinho would not keep up that kind of work, but I think David Moyes would. European experience comes with time, Moyes is a professional, he'd be up to the task. I hope that Moyes gets it.

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by Zee

I think David Moyes is precisely the kind of manager they need. Fergie's choice to home grow talent rather than squander millions on buying existing talent is a wise one, because it's more stable than throwing money at men who will only be tempted away by better money. José Mourinho would not keep up that kind of work, but I think David Moyes would. European experience comes with time, Moyes is a professional, he'd be up to the task. I hope that Moyes gets it.

SAF has done a lot of that too.

[Brother Leon]

Should tell Bayern to give us Bastian or do one tbh.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Part of me hopes it's a complete shock tomorrow....I got a text before from a huge fan saying someone had said jurgen klopp is in the frame too...don't believe it but I would love to wake up to a surprise....

[Drew.]

if i can remember properly i think it may have been in a commentary over one of the united games the commentator was saying Cleverley had said this was the season to prove himself

[Drew.]

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Sir Alex, you are a legend and your achievements are unlikely to ever be surpassed.

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Sir Alex, you were my idol for a coach, and you are an example for all future generations.

[ChristmasNeeve]

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[Brother Leon]

How long until he becomes Lord Alex Ferguson?

Make it happen ASAP.

Never.

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Never.

It will happen and it will be very much deserved.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

It will happen and it will be very much deserved.

When Sir Bill, and Sir Bob go without knighthoods? That would be a travesty. One more European cup in your glory years than us in our drought.