[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You can't have late term abortions unless it's for medical reasons.

Unless science develops a way for men to carry babies to term, I don't think it's our place to oppose abortion. It's a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body.

Thank you. It's funny though, my father is a No supporter (eventhough he's on holiday so can't vote anyway ) He also left my mother to pretty much be a single parent to us 4 kids (eventhough they were married), so Pro Birth but who cares what happens after, someone else will look after them. Luckily though his attitudes haven't rubbed off on my 3 brothers who are all voting Yes and support the women in their lives

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thank you. It's funny though, my father is a No supporter (eventhough he's on holiday so can't vote anyway ) He also left my mother to pretty much be a single parent to us 4 kids (eventhough they were married), so Pro Birth but who cares what happens after, someone else will look after them. Luckily though his attitudes haven't rubbed off on my 3 brothers who are all voting Yes and support the women in their lives

It's an all too common attitude with a lot of pro-lifers, they place so much value on the pregnancy but nary a thought on what comes after.

[Cherie]

My problem with abortion is for those who use it as a form of contraception, other than that for up to 12 weeks fine, anything after that other than for medical reasons is very iffy

[Cherie]

Also the rate of abortions required should be going down given the ready availability of free contraception and the morning after pill, which I know isn't free but costs a hell of a lot less than an abortion, and if you know your cycle you will know when it is needed.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Also the rate of abortions required should be going down given the ready availability of free contraception and the morning after pill, which I know isn't free but costs a hell of a lot less than an abortion, and if you know your cycle you will know when it is needed.

Free contraception should definitely be campaigned for imo

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Free contraception should definitely be campaigned for imo

I would have thought this should have come first? though it makes no difference here to abortion rates

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I would have thought this should have come first? though it makes no difference here to abortion rates

Well not really because the push for this referendum came about because of medical treatment to pregnant women being affected by the 8th amendment, cases where the pregnancies were actually planned/wanted so contraception wasn't an issue. The biggest case of this and campaigning for the referendum was the Savita Halappanavar case

http://www.thejournal.ie/doctors-sav...27207-May2018/

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

My problem with abortion is for those who use it as a form of contraception, other than that for up to 12 weeks fine, anything after that other than for medical reasons is very iffy

I'm not sure if you've ever known anyone who's had an abortion Cherie but I've known a couple, it's not a nice thing to go through mentally or physically. I really don't think that people set out to use it as a form of contraception or if they do are very common at all. But I do agree that the proposed terms they've set out seem pretty reasonable

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's an all too common attitude with a lot of pro-lifers, they place so much value on the pregnancy but nary a thought on what comes after.

Indeed. Alot of whom are first in line to complain about single mothers making
future criminals and taking money to raise those kids from the state funnily enough