[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Irrelevant.

Just because you know somebody doesn't mean they can put their hands on you at their own choosing. If the man who serves you in tesco regularly saw you hug your friend is it ok for him to then throw his arms around you?

It was just playfighting, something she does all the time herself. Hardly hugging her?

[Vanessa]

When even DS is backing you, that says everything. Roxanne has sealed her own fate. She won't win now.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

When even DS is backing you, that says everything. Roxanne has sealed her own fate. She won't win now.

Was she close to the win minus this latest bullshyte of hers? Her odds have been steadily rising as the days pass. Even Nick Leeson had a better chance than her prior to her latest nonsense.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Was she close to the win minus this latest bullshyte of hers? Her odds have been steadily rising as the days pass. Even Nick Leeson had a better chance than her prior to her latest nonsense.

That's good to hear. She needs to go.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It was just playfighting, something she does all the time herself. Hardly hugging her?

It was just hugging. You hugged your friend so the bloke from tesco you speak to a few times a week can hug you whenever he wants.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

It was just hugging. You hugged your friend so the bloke from tesco you speak to a few times a week can hug you whenever he wants.

He didn't hug her. It was playfighting.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He didn't hug her. It was playfighting.

Yeah the point is going straight over your head Vanessa.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yeah the point is going straight over your head Vanessa.

Well said...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Yeah the point is going straight over your head Vanessa.

I don't think it's the same thing. A hug is different from a playfight.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think it's the same thing. A hug is different from a playfight.

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Both result in personal contact but yet again the difference between the two is actually irrelevant they were just examples but you keep missing the point.

Right. Say I was in the house with two guys, one I was pretty close with and struck up a friendship with and our frienship was such that we would play fight, then a guy I barely knew tried to play the same with me - I would not feel comfortable. I barely know him and our relationship is not developed enough for me to be comfortable to play around and have his hands on me.

Are you suggesting I have no right to say I was uncomfortable with him being in my personal space because I allow another person to? Because that is basically what you are saying.

I think she overreacted.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He didn't hug her. It was playfighting.

That doesn’t matter... It’s the same thing regardless of what the act is... A violation of personal boundaries is still a violation...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

That doesn’t matter... It’s the same thing regardless of what the act is... A violation of personal boundaries is still a violation...

It was playfighting, fgs. People have done far worse on the show. Before it went all pc.

[kingston]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It was playfighting, fgs. People have done far worse on the show. Before it went all pc.

What’s happened in the past is irrellevent... Only Roxanne can define her own personal boundaries... Just because it was acceptable for someone else does not mean someone else will consider it in the same manner...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by kingston

What’s happened in the past is irrellevent... Only Roxanne can define her own personal boundaries... Just because it was acceptable for someone else does not mean someone else will consider it in the same manner...

Same goes for Ryan. And Roxanne trying to make him look like an abuser is also wrong.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by kingston

That doesn’t matter... It’s the same thing regardless of what the act is... A violation of personal boundaries is still a violation...

I've decided that you violated my personal boundries by replying negatively to my post. I can't sleep now.