[crashandburn]

Originally Posted by Elliot

One of the main things I hate about this gender discussion is the consistency of the double standards that are actually quite harmful, and this is mostly because my mom was quite absusive and we weren’t able to do anything because of this consisting double standard.

I'm sorry to hear that. that must have sucked.

For the record, I don't fully disagree with Cameron's statement. the way see it, if someone hits you, you can hit them back. Man/woman/alien. Doesn't matter. For me that's equality.

But rather than worry about who can hit who, I'd rather focus on making a world where nobody hits anybody.

I'm more offended by the way he puts his comments across and the fact that he's mouthing off about things he knows nothing about that have just been spoon-fed to him.

since everyone associates conservatives with those who oppose social progrsssion, and thus it isn’t taken seriously

Well to be fair, it's a reasonable association to make, considering they are the ones who most often oppose forms of social progression. I mean even the name of their party - Conservative - literally means "keeping things the same."

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by crashandburn

I'm sorry to hear that. that must have sucked.

For the record, I don't fully disagree with Cameron's statement. the way see it, if someone hits you, you can hit them back. Man/woman/alien. Doesn't matter. For me that's equality.

But rather than worry about who can hit who, I'd rather focus on making a world where nobody hits anybody.

I'm more offended by the way he puts his comments across and the fact that he's mouthing off about things he knows nothing about that have just been spoon-fed to him.


Well to be fair, it's a reasonable association to make, considering they are the ones who most often oppose forms of social progression. I mean even the name of their party - Conservative - literally means "keeping things the same."

Yeah I think priorities should be evaluated it’d be far better if we could have a world without violence, I’m not sure if that’s a thing that’s gonna happen anything soon tho... baby steps

And yeah ur right it’s just as someone who’s very left/liberal a lot of liberal circles I’ve found myself in don’t give ample criticism to certain flaws in this way of thinking, the only people that do are the conserstives, and due to them being conserstives said criticism gets brushed off.

It’s all part of the discussion and it’s all relevant imo. A lot of times people disregard ‘the other side’ of the gender debate with like ‘well women have it worse so they should supersede it. Like I’m what, one in like millions of people in the debate giving the other spectrum the time of day? I’m sure the absurd rates of sexual assault and gender pay gap are getting amply discussed. Imo everyone who’s in the working class is disadvantaged by gender roles in some way, to different severities. It all warrants discussion tho imo, to move to a future where maybe one day we’ll all be liberated from this bs