[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I have to disagree Ammi... it doesn't have to be extreme for her to be a narcissist, I'm not saying she has actual Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but she is a cookie-cutter example of a basic narcissist. She rarely sees other people's point of view; she accepts that they have one, but it's fairly evident that she doesn't find those points of view to be relevant to her (i.e. she doesn't actually care) and I don't see any evidence that she acknowledges them at all for any reason other than that she knows that's "the right thing to say" to make herself look good.

As for the Tomasz situation, far from being evidence of empathy, that actually cements my opinion further. She brought it up in the first place to "white knight" and make herself seem like "a rly good person" - but beyond and far worse than that - she flat out refused to let it go when it was making Tomasz quite clearly uncomfortable. He didn't feel bullied, he wanted just to forget about it and let it drop, the whole thing was clearly making him feel bad BUT she chose to drag him back into it three or four times - one of those times demanding that he come to the garden to "settle the disagreement" between her and Lewis F - with absolutely ZERO regard for the fact that it was making Tomasz uncomfortable. Her need to "win that argument" and be "in the right" regarding the entire situation was far more important to her than the feelings of the person she was supposedly "sticking up for" in the first place.

I don't think she's nasty or malicious though. I don't think she was thinking, "This might upset Tomasz but I don't care". Her sphere of observation just doesn't extend very far beyond the other dimension that she keeps inside her vagina... so it was irrelevant to her.

Likewise, she didn't give a **** about what Kay was trying to tell her, repeatedly interrupting her and not letting her speak and then declaring "You're not letting me finish!" if she didn't get to narrate her own version of events. She then declared that she "is who she is and has to be true to that", whilst basically disregarding the fact that Kay was trying to say the same thing about herself. She believes that it's of prime importance that SHE gets to be who SHE is. Not that anyone else gets to be their own person. Not if it impacts on her in any way, at least.

But the easiest way to spot it is to boil it down to one of the basics of narcissism. Believing that one is naturally superior to others (which she clearly does), whilst similtaneously crafting a victim narrative e.g. that other people are persecuting, bullying or -- the classic that she has already used several times -- that "they're jealous".

100% bonafide narcissism I'm afraid.



...I actually like her though . Absolute mess, couldn't be around her for 5 minutes, but absolute fire on telly.

...see if narcissistic were to be applied, TS...I would say that more applied to Lewis G because he hasn’t shown any consideration of any housemate on any level so far as I can see...and similar with Stephen Bear, the narcisstic king of them all...every person was for his own entertainment value...no thought of the actual person or any feelings...it’s okay thought TS...obviously you’re wrong and I accept that but as always...I adore you anyway ...and maybe even more now...because I realise you’re not perfect in your assessments...you’re so beautifully human and I love that....


...I can’t think of anyone better to disagree with.....or anyone more lovely than you to be wrong...