[James]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm no fan of the SNP either, and that's absolutely nothing like a statement trump would make. The first point she actually makes is that he should apologise if he's in the wrong, which I think we would all mostly agree with.

She's not even partaking in bothsiderism or whataboutism, because her next point lays out clearly exactly what the priority should be because all this pearl clutching over something everyone has done is just a distraction.

You can argue about the last point all you like and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but holding a mirror up to the right/brexiteers who have nothing other than slogans, name-calling, and labels is exactly the kind of thing that should be done.

As if trump would use an accurate description of a policy position to make a point against someone else he disagrees with; and it's false to liken the two. Trump lies about everything, constantly.

Well, maybe it is a bit different to Trump on reflection. I don't actually look at his Twitter account, I just see his Tweets reported sometimes.

I just think the First Minister shouldn't say things like that, but it's as much a comment on how bad politics are of Twitter as anything.

Last point I stand by - Brexit was an expression of English nationalism, as much as independence was an expression of Scottish nationalism. The two were linked and one followed on from the other (different results in the referendums obviously).

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by James

Well, maybe it is a bit different to Trump on reflection. I don't actually look at his Twitter account, I just see his Tweets reported sometimes.

I just think the First Minister shouldn't say things like that, but it's as much a comment on how bad politics are of Twitter as anything.

Last point I stand by - Brexit was an expression of English nationalism, as much as independence was an expression of Scottish nationalism. The two were linked and one followed on from the other (different results in the referendums obviously).

"An expression of English Nationalism" is exactly the right phrasing and also the most worrying of phrasings. I think it's a completely different situation because we're not looking for independence as a nation because we already had/have that, which has been laid out quite clearly in all of the brexit papers. I know people like to say that we're being dictated to by brussels but that doesn't make it true.

[James]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

"An expression of English Nationalism" is exactly the right phrasing and also the most worrying of phrasings. I think it's a completely different situation because we're not looking for independence as a nation because we already had/have that, which has been laid out quite clearly in all of the brexit papers. I know people like to say that we're being dictated to by brussels but that doesn't make it true.

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by James

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it.

That's fair. Nationalism is on the rise everywhere unfortunately, and what makes it more worrying is that instead of calling it out, it's given softer labels of "economic anxiety" or "concerns about sovereignty".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by James

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it.