[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

You are lucky to get a bed let alone worrying who is on your ward.

Having to share a bed would be more of a concern, add to the fact old people are dying of starvation on wards, people need to pull their fingers out.

There are single sex wards for a reason you know, its about dignity, privacy and safety

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There are single sex wards for a reason you know, its about dignity, privacy and safety

Have you been in any hospitals lately?

I’ve been in them, and seeing old people call out for help, or start choking on their own sick.

There are still male nurses on female wards. The male female wards consist of men on one side of a ward and women on another.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Have you been in any hospitals lately?

I’ve been in them, and seeing old people call out for help, or start choking on their own sick.

There are still male nurses on female wards. The male female wards consist of men on one side of a ward and women on another.

Yes I have and when someone rings the buzzer it takes about 20 minutes for someone to arrive, and that's not a one off its a regular thing, what have male nurses got to do with this, that is a totally different thing, a male nurse will have to have a female in attendance if he is attending to a female patient, and if any personal care is taking place two people have to be in attendance, this is for the protection of the patient and the staff so they can't be accused of anything.

What has elderly people choking on their own sick have to do with mixed wards?

I have not seen any mixed wards, but what difference does having the men on one side and women on the other make to personal safety, and dignity ?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I have and when someone rings the buzzer it takes about 20 minutes for someone to arrive, and that's not a one off its a regular thing. what have male nurses got to do with this, that is a totally different thing, a male nurse will have to have a female in attendance if he is attending to a female patient, and if any personal care is taking place two people have to be in attendance, this is for the protection of the patient and the staff so they can't be accused of anything.

What has elderly people choking on their own sick have to do with mixed wards?

I have not seen any mixed wards, but what difference does having the men on one side have and women on the other make to personal safety, and dignity ?

Well, if we go down the route of patients privacy dignity, have a male nurse is more intrusive than having a trans on your ward.

My view is stop the elderly needlessly suffering on ward first before kicking up a stick about tras people on a ward.

Priorities more than agendas

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Well, if we go down the route of patients privacy dignity, have a male nurse is more intrusive than having a trans on your ward.

My view is stop the elderly needlessly suffering on ward first before kicking up a stick about tras people on a ward.

Priorities more than agendas

You can refuse to be seen by a male nurse and ask to be seen by female only if you want. There is no correlation between the elderly needlessly suffering and mixed wards, the former is down to staffing or careless staff who have no interest the latter is about treating trans people who have not yet gone through the reassignment process and where they should be put in hospitals, its interesting isn't it that this isn't an issue with females transitioning to male, no males wards are affected it would appear

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You can refuse to be seen by a male nurse and ask to be seen by female only if you want. There is no correlation between the elderly needlessly suffering and mixed wards, the former is down to staffing or careless staff who have no interest the latter is about treating trans people who have not yet gone through the reassignment process and where they should be put in hospitals, its interesting isn't it that this isn't an issue with females transitioning to male, no males wards are affected it would appear

It is. Same with prisons etc

[Cherie]

and @ Sherriff, I hope you raised a complaint about what you have witnessed

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You can refuse to be seen by a male nurse and ask to be seen by female only if you want. There is no correlation between the elderly needlessly suffering and mixed wards, the former is down to staffing or careless staff who have no interest the latter is about treating trans people who have not yet gone through the reassignment process and where they should be put in hospitals, its interesting isn't it that this isn't an issue with females transitioning to male, no males wards are affected it would appear

When you are ill you may not have the strength or voice to ask for a female nurse.

What happens when you get a trans surgeon the only one available, do you say I would rather die than have a trans surgeon.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

When you are ill you may not have the strength or voice to ask for a female nurse.

What happens when you get a trans surgeon the only one available, do you say I would rather die than have a trans surgeon.

That is a ridiculous comparison, a surgeon can be male or female, and they are a fully vetted member of staff, the same as a male nurse If the trans person has undergone or is going through gender reassignment there is no issue, where the problem currently lies is you for instance could say tomorrow that you identify as a woman and you would then get a bed on a female ward, no ifs, no buts no maybes and if you were refused someone would probably lose their job due to perceived transphobia


Did you make a formal complaint about what you witnessed as you never did answer my question