[Cherie]

here's a link for you Withano


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...leap-pool.html


Can you provide some where females transitioning to males demanded to go into male prisons, male hospital wards etc of their own free will pre op of course

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

here's a link for you Withano


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...leap-pool.html

It will only become a "proper" issue when it upsets men of course

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It will only become a "proper" issue when it upsets men of course

If females trans are demanding to go into male prisons etc, I am pretty sure it will be reported somewhere

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If females trans are demanding to go into male prisons etc, I am pretty sure it will be reported somewhere

I mean, the fact is especially when it comes to prisons, biological men are more dangerous to biological women than the other way round so i would imagine that's a big reason why pre op trans men would want to go to womens prisons over mens. However if it's true that biological men are more of a danger to biological women then putting pre op trans women (biological men) into womens prisons is basically saying we're putting trans womens safety over biological womens safety

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It will only become a "proper" issue when it upsets men of course

It does upset countless transphobic men. As always ‘trans rights’ isn’t a men vs women issue regardless of how tibb makes it seem to be. But this argument has been done to death and back! We might as well read old threads, nobody has changed their stance, discussing it is a waste of time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

It does upset countless transphobic men. As always ‘trans rights’ isn’t a men vs women issue regardless of how tibb makes it seem to be. But this argument has been done to death and back! We might as well read old threads, nobody has changed their stance, discussing it is a waste of time.

What a terrible negative attitude to have just because people disagree with you and ask you to explain your views?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

It does upset countless transphobic men. As always ‘trans rights’ isn’t a men vs women issue regardless of how tibb makes it seem to be. But this argument has been done to death and back! We might as well read old threads, nobody has changed their stance, discussing it is a waste of time.

Trans rights are conflicting with womens rights though in some cases, especially the self ID stuff, that's my only issue

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Withano

This argument has been done to death and back! We might as well read old threads, nobody has changed their stance, discussing it is a waste of time.

Nothing more to say than this really. If I read a stance on trans issues on TiBB that I haven't seen before in 5 other threads I'll be utterly flabberghasted. Substitute "women's wards" in the title for "prisons", "women's shelters" or "bathrooms" and you can read everyone's response to this thread.