[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would Cameron stay when he was pushing for the voters to remain and clearly felt unequipped to lead the UK out of Europe?

Do you think he prepared well for that outcome as the PM?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why would Cameron stay when he was pushing for the voters to remain and clearly felt unequipped to lead the UK out of Europe?

Cameron had already been dealing with the EU so he knew what was ahead


Yes Farage might have a radio programme etc but that's hardly the same as being as the business end and taking his seat in parliament now is it

[Tom4784]

Do you think Farage was prepared for the outcome when he ran off when his side won, only to return when the US interest in him dried up?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Cameron had already been dealing with the EU so he knew what was ahead


Yes Farage might have a radio programme etc but that's hardly the same as being as the business end and taking his seat in parliament now is it

he isnt and MP so he cant

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you think he prepared well for that outcome as the PM?

I think he decided that leaving would be too much of a mess to handle and surely some of the Politicians pushing to lead would be a much better solution? Surely Leavers would rather have a Leaver PM lead them out, no?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think he decided that leaving would be too much of a mess to handle and surely some of the Politicians pushing to lead would be a much better solution? Surely Leavers would rather have a Leaver PM lead them out, no?

and we got a remain PM in May!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Didn't Floppy head Johnson leg it as well afterwards and he was a leaver too, yeah?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and we got a remain PM in May!

And she probably should have declined too by the looks of it ............

[bots]

With the backstop thing, the EU have consistently said that they wont change it because it affects the good friday agreement etc. This is them getting directly involved in the politics of member nations, which is outwith their remit. By taking this stance and not being pragmatic they are forcing the UK to go down the no deal route which will cause far more serious issues regarding the border than any agreement. So their line is pure hypocrisy.

[Tom4784]

In fairness to May, she's been consistent in trying to carry out the wishes of the referendum and she hasn't really fielded any of the options that would allow the UK to remain when she could have.

She's been more committed to a leave outcome than any of the brexit campaigns leaders who turned tail and ran as soon as they won.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Do you think Farage was prepared for the outcome when he ran off when his side won, only to return when the US interest in him dried up?

He is still a MEP.
And is Live on LBC
Mon- Thurs and Sundays.

Dezzy he had one Group
the Gov Leave had another Group
it was two Leave Groups that Won

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he isnt and MP so he cant

He isn't an MP because he stepped down as leader of his party, he would be an MP if he stayed on though

[In the Drunk Tank]

Not getting this 'leavers ran away' thing, most of the prominent Brexiteers - Boris, Leadsom, Priti Patel, David Davis, Gove, Liam Fox etc etc - ended up in high ranking positions in government

Farage is an odd example as he was never part of government and has always been mainly a campaigner

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He isn't an MP because he stepped down as leader of his party, he would be an MP if he stayed on though

Farage has never been an MP

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

With the backstop thing, the EU have consistently said that they wont change it because it affects the good friday agreement etc. This is them getting directly involved in the politics of member nations, which is outwith their remit. By taking this stance and not being pragmatic they are forcing the UK to go down the no deal route which will cause far more serious issues regarding the border than any agreement. So their line is pure hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

In fairness to May, she's been consistent in trying to carry out the wishes of the referendum and she hasn't really fielded any of the options that would allow the UK to remain when she could have.

She's been more committed to a leave outcome than any of the brexit campaigns leaders who turned tail and ran as soon as they won.

Yes and Yes


I wasn't a fan of May and her election campaign was a total farce, not sure her advisors were but turning on her core voters was not a good move, but she has been stoic in trying to deliver Brexit

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Farage has never been an MP

Oh you are right, I am sure he would have won in his constituency if he stayed on though as there was some controversy in the previous election where he should have won or something

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not getting this 'leavers ran away' thing, most of the prominent Brexiteers - Boris, Leadsom, Priti Patel, David Davis, Gove, Liam Fox etc etc - ended up in high ranking positions in government

Farage is an odd example as he was never part of government and has always been mainly a campaigner

Didn't Johnson rule himself out as a contender for Pm though after Cameron stepped down?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Didn't Johnson rule himself out as a contender for Pm though after Cameron stepped down?

Johnson also wrote 2 newspaper columns on the eve of Brexit; Why I voted leave, and why I voted remain, so he could just pick which one won. Johnson is an opportunist.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Johnson also wrote 2 newspaper columns on the eve of Brexit; Why I voted leave, and why I voted remain, so he could just pick which one won. Johnson is an opportunist.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Didn't Johnson rule himself out as a contender for Pm though after Cameron stepped down?

He was going to run thinking he had the support of Gove but then Gove announced he was running himself so he didn't think he could win

I've no doubt he would love to be PM though and I think he would now run if the opportunity was there

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by MTVN

He was going to run thinking he had the support of Gove but then Gove announced he was running himself so he didn't think he could win

I've no doubt he would love to be PM though and I think he would now run if the opportunity was there

Do you really believe that's the only reason he didn't run? I'd say he was thinking **** that, it's going to be a disaster

[bots]

At the time of the ref Boris thought he was the anointed chosen one. Gove stabbed him in the back by announcing that he would stand in the leadership. By doing so, he ensured that neither he nor Boris would get the leadership as it would split their vote. Gove knew exactly what he was doing too ...