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15-02-2019, 06:33 PM | #26 | |||
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15-02-2019, 08:01 PM | #27 | |||
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Do you have access to him, or is this another bandwagon you are perched upon?
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15-02-2019, 08:04 PM | #28 | |||
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You won’t be saying I’m jumping on the bandwagon if were in support of him now would you? I never liked him and never will Last edited by SherzyK; 15-02-2019 at 08:04 PM. |
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15-02-2019, 08:59 PM | #29 | |||
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Thats still not what he was voted for so your original point is still bollocks
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15-02-2019, 09:31 PM | #30 | |||
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You know my methods
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15-02-2019, 09:47 PM | #31 | ||
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Taking money from the military, Disaster relief fund and other important parts of government to fund an ego boost is a disgusting abuse of power.
The facts do not lie, there is no crisis at the border and no real reason to build the wall, it would be better and more cost effective to maintain the gates since security and immigration experts both agree that a wall won't do much to prevent anything since most drugs and illegal substances come through the gates and checkpoints via smuggling. People can climb over a wall and they can burrow underneath it. A wall does nothing but fuel Trump's ego and he wants to waste precious funds for actual crisis situations for his imaginary one. I don't care which side of the argument you fall on, if you don't see this as a gross abuse of power then you are choosing to ignore the facts. Even republicans are speaking out against this. |
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15-02-2019, 10:49 PM | #32 | |||
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16-02-2019, 10:37 AM | #33 | ||
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What an idiot. You would think he would quietly drop this ridiculous wall idea, rather than still shouting on about it.
Also, using relief money is asking for disaster. Nothing can go wrong there, no way
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17-02-2019, 01:05 PM | #34 | ||
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Another thing he's doing that's unconstitutional and will be struck down in court. Congress appropriates funds. The President is not a king. He can't spend people's money at whim. The House controls the purse.
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17-02-2019, 11:46 PM | #35 | |||
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18-02-2019, 04:23 AM | #36 | |||
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self-oscillating
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18-02-2019, 08:32 AM | #37 | |||
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He’s proven on many, if not every occasion that he’s just a massive bell-end
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19-02-2019, 06:21 AM | #38 | |||
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Who did the USA elect as leader in 2016?
TRUMP He is who the people chose What did he promise? A Wall The US electorate voted for Trump Anyone blocking Trump from fulfilling his electoral promise to the people of the US does not believe in Democracy The Democratic Party (Or as they should now be called the UnDemocratic Party) are blocking a Democratically elected head of state from fulfilling his electoral promises When we had the shut down all I could see from the Undemocrats was their crocodile tears and hand wringing over the "poor federal workers", as these undemocrats jet setted all over the place, while Trump stayed at his post, ready to talk. Just like the UK Labour Party, more interested in far left wing ideology than actual people, the Undemocrats, do not care about people they pretend to represent, only their ideology and looking good on TV while wringing their hands shedding Crocodile tears, over the"poor federal workers". We have also seen how the UnDemocrats are tolerating Anti-Semitism in their own party.
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19-02-2019, 06:22 AM | #39 | |||
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it’s a mad, mad world
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Oh ffs
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19-02-2019, 06:59 AM | #40 | |||
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19-02-2019, 07:05 AM | #41 | |||
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it’s a mad, mad world
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19-02-2019, 07:46 AM | #42 | |||
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Do not the people elect the president and head of state?
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19-02-2019, 07:51 AM | #43 | |||
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no, just most of Trump's fanbase
this wall is so unnecessary anyway, shows what a racist loser he is, with his ongoing hate towards mexicans yet he likes kissing Kim Jong-Un's arse and north Korea is more dangerous than mexico
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19-02-2019, 07:52 AM | #44 | |||
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with that diplomatic solution he and kim has come up with now
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19-02-2019, 01:21 PM | #45 | ||
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I'm pretty sure that the government shutdown put paid to any support for the wall beyond his hardcore base who thinks the sun shines out of his arse.
A majority of people blamed Trump for the government shutdown and now there's a lot of opposition to the wall, especially if Trump is plundering disaster relief funds for a wall that most experts (bipartisan ones at that) believe is unneeded. Trump is fabricating a crisis to get his way and most reasonable people can see through it, hell, he'll have a fight to garner support from republicans, never mind the people after the stunt he's pulled. |
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19-02-2019, 02:08 PM | #46 | |||
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Yes some states are now fighting the Presidents Funding plan. Legal Battles ahead Ref: FoxNewsHD and CNN HD USA |
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19-02-2019, 02:10 PM | #47 | |||
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I have heard testimony from my "Friends" on Facebook who live near the border, and they have told me how vital it is for security.
Only if you live on the border can you pronounce whether it is needed or not. My contacts do and have.
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19-02-2019, 02:17 PM | #48 | |||
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"Trump is fabricating a crisis to get his way "
Yes Dezzy that's how he rolls of course he was clever to have the parents of a Murdered child by a Illegal Man, making sure everyone in the world knows about the Murder. |
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19-02-2019, 02:30 PM | #49 | |||
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Yes one Zone has no crime now as a mega wall is Up |
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19-02-2019, 02:37 PM | #50 | |||
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/border...rump-1.5024051
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